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    I got Iceland Vikings included in my most similar in the latest update. BJORK BJORK BJORK! Closest is still Visigoth and Frank mix, though.

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    Time line to 100 samples




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    mine after the update
    ancient ancestry map :)

    https://i.imgur.com/rjQ7kq1.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Excellent new feature allows you to adjust the samples being shown. I put it for 10 of the best samples for goodness of fit.




    This will be useful for weeding out samples that only have distant relationships with common source populations.
    Certainly a very nice tool. I loved it. Very cool the customization to only ten samples:

    “Às vezes ouço passar o vento; e só de ouvir o vento passar, vale a pena ter nascido”.
    Fernando Pessoa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Excellent new feature allows you to adjust the samples being shown. I put it for 10 of the best samples for goodness of fit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post



    This will be useful for weeding out samples that only have distant relationships with common source populations.






    It is interesting to adjust the time periods. It will show you samples that you would not see if you were to put it from across the entire time-span. Above are my relatively best samples from the Bronze-Age. It is difficult though, with the sliders to get the date exactly on the year you want, but close to it.

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    Iron Age:



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    Fellow Brazilian, not only. AFAIK, the Suebi influenced Portugal way more than Visigoths did, but who knows!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Suebi

    And "a contingent of the Buri accompanied the Suebi in their invasion of the Iberian Peninsula and established themselves in Gallaecia (modern northern Portugal and Galicia) in the 5th century."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buri_tribe

    Congrats for figuring out your clade, btw. :)

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    Hey, Visigoth Girona is one of my closest matches...but I am R1a, as was a number of Visigoths, given it is common in Scandinavia where they originated and in what is now Poland, where they lived for a few centuries.

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    7XaQsnm.jpg so these might be my father's ancestors?

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    Welcome to the U 106 club!!!

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Eupedia Forum mobile app

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Fellow Brazilian, not only. AFAIK, the Suebi influenced Portugal way more than Visigoths did, but who knows!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Suebi

    And "a contingent of the Buri accompanied the Suebi in their invasion of the Iberian Peninsula and established themselves in Gallaecia (modern northern Portugal and Galicia) in the 5th century."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buri_tribe

    Congrats for figuring out your clade, btw. :)
    Quote Originally Posted by Joey37 View Post
    Hey, Visigoth Girona is one of my closest matches...but I am R1a, as was a number of Visigoths, given it is common in Scandinavia where they originated and in what is now Poland, where they lived for a few centuries.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wheal View Post
    7XaQsnm.jpg so these might be my father's ancestors?
    Quote Originally Posted by italouruguayan View Post
    Welcome to the U 106 club!!!

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    Really cool. Thanks guys.

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    Analysis completed:
    R1b - M405/U106/S21- L477
    R-L477 (age: 1956 ybp)










    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L477/

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    @Duarte
    Just now I saw the Raw Data per se. Apparently you're negative for U106, i.e., you don't belong to R1b-U106. You have to compare your result with the derived allele, not with the ancestral allele. For example, if the U106 mutation is C->T and your genotype is C (ancestral), then you're U106- (negative for it). If you had T (derived/alt), then you'd be U106+ (positive).
    It seems you have C, meaning negative.
    The same for the others SNPs listed.

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    DFaVHy0.jpg
    Is this mean that Ancient Gotlander is my first Ancestor ? And Gotlander is viking/longobard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    @Duarte
    Just now I saw the Raw Data per se. Apparently you're negative for U106, i.e., you don't belong to R1b-U106. You have to compare your result with the derived allele, not with the ancestral allele. For example, if the U106 mutation is C->T and your genotype is C (ancestral), then you're U106- (negative for it). If you had T (derived/alt), then you'd be U106+ (positive).
    It seems you have C, meaning negative.
    The same for the others SNPs listed.
    Dear Regio X.

    I certainly respect your opinion considering that, through your posts, it's visible that you are a person who understands a lot about genetic phylogeny.


    Below I post the data from my "Y" chromosome after migration to the current nomenclature used by ISOGG. The highlights in green or red were made by me. The R haplogroup markers identified with "+" I highlighted in green and the haplogroup markers identified with "_" I have highlighted in red:





    I remember that in the Excel worksheet with the original raw data, markers with two letters, such as "CC", "TT", "CT", are considered to be recognized. The markers whose the "letters" of the allele are "_ _" are not migrated, since they are considered "no call".


    Following your understanding I could only be sure that I am R-L151 and could not conclude anything regarding the haplogroups that are under the R-L151.


    However, alleles that do not have the "_ _" record in the raw data sheet have been all migrated and, from the reading of the technical notes in the figure below (given as an example), it is not possible to assert that the migrated alleles, identified after migration, with the signal "_" are "not identificated" or are "no call", and, because that, must be discarded from the analyses as, for example, U106-, IMHO:




    Btw, thank you for your alert and your attention to the case. We are here to learn and, of course, I understand that your considerations very important.


    Cheers and hugs :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Dear Regio X.

    I certainly respect your opinion considering that, through your posts, it's visible that you are a person who understands a lot about genetic phylogeny.


    Below I post the data from my "Y" chromosome after migration to the current nomenclature used by ISOGG. The highlights in green or red were made by me. The R haplogroup markers identified with "+" I highlighted in green and the haplogroup markers identified with "_" I have highlighted in red:





    I remember that in the Excel worksheet with the original raw data, markers with two letters, such as "CC", "TT", "CT", are considered to be recognized. The markers whose the "letters" of the allele are "_ _" are not migrated, since they are considered "no call".


    Following your understanding I could only be sure that I am R-L151 and could not conclude anything regarding the haplogroups that are under the R-L151.


    However, alleles that do not have the "_ _" record in the raw data sheet have been all migrated and, from the reading of the technical notes in the figure below (given as an example), it is not possible to assert that the migrated alleles, identified after migration, with the signal "_" are "not identificated" or are "no call", and, because that, must be discarded from the analyses as, for example, U106-, IMHO:




    Btw, thank you for your alert and your attention to the case. We are here to learn and, of course, I understand that your considerations very important.


    Cheers and hugs :)
    You're welcome! :)

    The good calls are the homozygous. Results like "--" and "TC" may be ignored.

    As for U106 (Build 37 position 8796078), well, not sure what you mean, but if your Raw Data shows your genotype for it is "CC", then you're confirmed "negative" (U106-), meaning you're NOT R1b-U106. The odds are you belong to R1b-P312, but just further tests to be sure.

    There are already tools for it, but I took advantage of a sw I developed time ago and easily created a list to help those men who tested only in MyHeritage and wanna clues about the Y haplogroup to which they belong.

    I'll consider firstly just the most common haplogroups in Europe: R1b, R1a, I, J, E, G, T...

    The equivalences may be checked in ISOGG 2019 Y-DNA trees:
    https://isogg.org/tree/

    Subgroup name --->
    SNP / Build 37 Number / Derived allele (needed to be positive)

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    R1b --->
    PF6255 : 14273103 : G
    YSC0000075 : 7960019 : A
    L506 : 21995972 : A
    CTS2134 : 14193384 : A

    R1b1a1b1a1 --->
    P310 : 18907236 : C
    (Duarte, P310 is an equivalent of L52, not of L151)

    R1b1a1b1a1a1 --->
    U106 : 8796078 : T

    ---------------------------------------------

    R1a --->
    L62 : 17891241 : G
    L146 : 23473201 : A

    ---------------------------------------------

    I --->
    PF3649 : 8046731 : C
    CTS2514 : 14337364 : C
    M258 : 15023364 : C

    I1 --->
    L80 : 14640715 : G
    Z2840 : 19563894 : C

    I2a1 --->
    L460 : 7879415 : C

    ---------------------------------------------

    J1a2a1a2 --->
    P58 : 14486667 : C


    J2 --->
    M172 : 14969634 : G

    J2a1 --->
    CTS7683 : 17614366 : A

    J2a1a --->
    F4326 : 23021978 : G

    J2b2a --->
    M241 : 15018459 : A

    ---------------------------------------------

    E1b1 --->
    M5404 : 7736744 : A
    L492 : 15541126 : T
    L613 : 9448625 : A
    CTS6333 : 16824270 : C

    E1b1b1b2a1a1 --->
    L29 : 16936081 : T

    ---------------------------------------------

    G --->
    PF2952 : 14577177 : A
    U21 : 15204710 : C

    ---------------------------------------------

    T --->
    M272 : 22738775 : G

    T1a2 --->
    L131 : 19372808 : T

    ---------------------------------------------

    Q --->

    F1237.1 : 8479245 : G
    M242 : 15018582 : T

    ---------------------------------------------

    N --->
    F3373 : 22921768 : A

    ---------------------------------------------

    L --->
    M185 : 14904859 : T

    --------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------

    OTHERS

    R : Y472 : 6868118 : A
    R : YSC0000287 : 16615413 : T
    R : Y506 : 21219443 : G
    R1 : P225 : 15590342 : T
    R1 : YSC0000288 : 16742224 : G
    R1 : P238 : 7771131 : A
    R1 : P233 : 21166358 : G
    R1 : M781 : 21917832 : C

    R1b1 : PF6271 : 23984056 : A
    R1b1 : YSC0000224 : 21558298 : T
    R1b1a1 : PF6498 : 21312064 : A
    R1b1a1 : L502 : 19020340 : C
    R1b1a1b : PF6485 : 18719565 : C
    R1b1a1b : YSC0000225 : 21784286 : A
    R1b1a1b : L483 : 8233186 : T
    R1b1a1b : PF6265 : 21554468 : A
    R1b1a1b : CTS329 : 2897433 : G
    R1b1a1b1a1a1c2a1 : M467 : 16839499 : A
    R1b1a1b1a1a1c2b1 : L47 : 22178569 : A
    R1b1a1b1a1a1c2b1a1a : L46 : 19077409 : G
    R1b1a1b1a1a1c2b1a1a : L525 : 14053205 : T
    R1b1a1b1a1a1c2b1a1a1 : L237 : 15744642 : A
    R1b1a1b1a1a1c2b1a1a1 : L164 : 15701859 : A
    R1b1a1b1a1a1c2b1a1a1 : L45 : 15116138 : G
    R1b1a1b1a1a1c2b1a1a1a : L493 : 15800326 : G
    R1b1a1b1a1a2a1a1a1 : Z278 : 18167479 : G
    R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a1a1a1a1 : M222 : 14902414 : A
    R1b1a1b1a1a2d : L238 : 21253443 : G

    I1a1a1a1a2a1 : M72 : 21894407 : G

    I2a1a1a : M26 : 21865821 : A
    I2a1b : L35 : 22725379 : A
    I2a1b1 : P221 : 8353707 : A
    I2a1b1a1a1a : L137.1 : 9791250 : A
    I2a1b2a : L38 : 15668070 : G
    I2a1b2a : L39 : 16199051 : C

    J2a1a1a2a2b : M322 : 15469740 : A

    E : P169 : 22918577 : T
    E : P171 : 23443971 : T
    E : P173 : 6995523 : G
    E : L511 : 23059591 : A
    E : PF1788 : 19500107 : T
    E : M5406 : 7913358 : A
    E (Notes) : M107 : 21931638 : G
    E (Notes) : M66 : 21881573 : C

    E1a : M132 : 21896261 : T
    E1b1a1 : CTS6180 : 16713318 : T
    E1b1a1 : CTS5964 : 16578072 : C
    E1b1a1 : M4745 : 8165984 : G
    E1b1a1 : CTS3105 : 14666569 : T
    E1b1a1 : CTS6471 : 16922783 : C
    E1b1a1 : CTS11729 : 23241047 : A
    E1b1a1a1a1c : L485 : 8852858 : T
    E1b1a1a1a1c1 : L514 : 14636457 : T
    E1b1a1a1a1c1a1 : M191 : 15019613 : G
    E1b1a1a1a1c1b : L516 : 19105726 : C
    E1b1a1a1a1c1b : L517 : 21593470 : G
    E1b1a1a1a1c1b1 : Z1894 : 14887218 : T
    E1b1a1a1a2a : U175 : 16253694 : A
    E1b1a1a1a2a1 : P277 : 15579215 : G
    E1b1a1a1a2a1 : M4254 : 21541514 : A
    E1b1a1a1a2a1 : P278.1 : 8467053 : A
    E1b1a1a1a2a1a3a1e : L477 : 2867288 : C

    G2a2b1a1a : L14 : 22917995 : T
    G2a2b2a1a1a1 : L78 : 14871976 : T
    G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a1a1b : YSC0000033 : 17353144 : T
    G2a2b2a2 : M278 : 15022465 : C
    G2b1a : M283 : 15031385 : G

    Q1b : L56 : 8148869 : A
    Q1b : L57 : 15574102 : A
    Q1b1 : L55 : 19413335 : A
    Q1b1a : L54 : 23292782 : A
    Q1b1a1a : M3 : 19096363 : A
    Q1b1a1a1b : M194 : 15014550 : C

    --------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------

    AND SOME MORE

    D1b1a2 : CTS107 : 2731887 : T

    DE : M145 : 21717208 : T
    DE : CTS3334 : 14842223 : T
    DE : F3170.1 : 21306315 : A

    F : F2155 : 16401339 : T
    F : P148 : 19349615 : T
    F : P166 : 17256018 : T
    F : P145 : 8424089 : A
    F : M89 : 21917313 : T
    F : F719 : 2722506 : A
    F : F3136 : 21147336 : C
    F : M3638 : 2863665 : G
    F : L132.1 : 17464197 : C
    F : P141 : 6941218 : A
    F : P160 : 8474189 : C
    F : CTS3654 : 15095345 : G
    F : F2402 : 17152659 : C
    F : P159 : 18097251 : A
    F : CTS4443 : 15651438 : T
    F : F2837 : 18765649 : C
    F : F1753 : 14294504 : G
    F : F3111 : 21080707 : G
    F : F1714 : 14171665 : T
    F : F2048 : 15955432 : T
    F : F1704 : 14149772 : T

    H1a1b1a : Page75 : 6938119 : A

    IJ : F4281 : 19166861 : C
    IJ : YSC0001311 : 18633084 : A
    IJ : P127 : 8590752 : T
    IJK : L15 : 6753519 : G
    IJK : L16 : 7173143 : A

    K : P128 : 20837553 : T
    K : P132 : 8679843 : T
    K : P131 : 15472863 : T
    K2 : M526 : 23550924 : C
    K2b : M1221 : 16222561 : T

    L1b2a : M274 : 22737801 : T

    M1 : M189 : 14945705 : T
    M1 : M5 : 21609946 : T
    M1a2a1 : F2561 : 17678803 : A

    O : P186 : 7568568 : A
    O : P196 : 15754313 : A
    O1b2 : M176 : 2655180 : A
    O1b2a2 : Page90 : 14968449 : G
    O2 : P198 : 17053771 : T
    O2a1b1a1a1a1 : F526 : 19171953 : G
    O2a2 : IMS-JST021354 : 2828196 : C
    O2a2b : P164 : 14001232 : G

    P or K2b2 : F536 : 19315988 : T
    P or K2b2 : P295 : 7963031 : G
    P1 or K2b2a : P237 : 8334875 : G

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post

    Subgroup name --->
    SNP / Build 37 Number / Derived allele (needed to be positive)

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    R1b --->
    PF6255 : 14273103 : G
    YSC0000075 : 7960019 : A
    L506 : 21995972 : A
    CTS2134 : 14193384 : A

    R1b1a1b1a1 --->
    P310 : 18907236 : C
    (Duarte, P310 is an equivalent of L52, not of L151)







    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L52/

    I am subgroup R1b1a1b1a1, SNP P310/PF6546/S129, homozygous "C" ("CC", ie, derived allele "C"), position hg37 "18907236".


    To know which subgroups are under the R1b1a1b1a1 I would have to do the Y-Full examination of the FTDNA. You're right.


    As the price is impractical, it will stay for later.

    I'm glad to know I'm R-L52. That's enough for now.


    Thanks and that God bless you for the help. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post






    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L52/

    I am subgroup R1b1a1b1a1, SNP P310/PF6546/S129, homozygous "C" ("CC", ie, derived allele "C"), position hg37 "18907236".


    To know which subgroups are under the R1b1a1b1a1 I would have to do the Y-Full examination of the FTDNA. You're right.


    As the price is impractical, it will stay for later.

    I'm glad to know I'm R-L52. That's enough for now.


    Thanks and that God bless you for the help. :)
    My pleasure! :)

    Notice that, in fact, YFull analysis is very good, but it's not mandatory. Tests like BigY (expensive), SNP Packs in FTDNA or Panels in YSEQ, cheaper options, would already place you deeper in the phylogenetic tree. So you have alternatives.

    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    As for U106 (Build 37 position 8796078), well, not sure what you mean, but if your Raw Data shows your genotype for it is "CC", then you're confirmed "negative" (U106-), meaning you're NOT R1b-U106. The odds are you belong to R1b-P312, but just further tests to be sure.
    The only way to be R1b-U106 with U106- is a "back mutation", proved by being positive for SNPs downstream, but the chances tend to zero, hence my emphasis.

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    It appears that the most ancient that you share dna with is Western Pomerania Unetice, 2.6 cM.

    The next is Scythian, 19.91 cM.

    Look at the yellow lines to see which you share dna, you can widen the distance between each population by lowering the number of samples, and narrow the years of search to spread it out over a larger area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RagnarofMacedon View Post
    DFaVHy0.jpg
    Is this mean that Ancient Gotlander is my first Ancestor ? And Gotlander is viking/longobard?

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    Hello RagnarofMacedon,

    Hello . I'm just repositioning this answer to your question, answer elaborated by the member Wheal, so that it stays along with your question.
    A big hug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheal View Post
    It appears that the most ancient that you share dna with is Western Pomerania Unetice, 2.6 cM.

    The next is Scythian, 19.91 cM.

    Look at the yellow lines to see which you share dna, you can widen the distance between each population by lowering the number of samples, and narrow the years of search to spread it out over a larger area.

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    Thank you @Duarte, I sometimes don't think to do the quote thing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Hello RagnarofMacedon,

    Hello . I'm just repositioning this answer to your question, answer elaborated by the member Wheal, so that it stays along with your question.
    A big hug.

    Hey thanks man @Wheal @Duarte

    heheh12345.jpg

    Here's only 5 samples from antique i have illyrian ,thracian ,scyntian,ancient egyptian , on gedmatch i share with illyrian and thracian dna , here not showing...Can you tell me that lines red,yellow,blue all have different meaning ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RagnarofMacedon View Post
    Hey thanks man @Wheal @Duarte

    heheh12345.jpg

    Here's only 5 samples from antique i have illyrian ,thracian ,scyntian,ancient egyptian , on gedmatch i share with illyrian and thracian dna , here not showing...Can you tell me that lines red,yellow,blue all have different meaning ?
    @RagnarofMacedon:


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