Mytrueancestry.com

[alais]

The Oracles and calculator Mytrueancestry.com uses is just Eurogenes K15, so there is no difference with the results on Gedmatch.

What I find most interesting on Mytrueancestry.com are the distances based on Y-DNA. Does anyone know the sources?

Interesting differences between Italians.


North Italian (Bergamo)

1. French_Alsace (6.946)
2. Portuguese (9.367)
3. Spanish_Galicia (9.746)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (10.31)
5. French_Provence (10.34)
6. French (11.09)
7. Spanish_Cantabria (11.30)
8. West_German (11.78)


Tuscan

1. Spanish_Cantabria (15.09)
2. French_Alsace (15.86)
3. French_Provence (16.56)
4. North_Italian (16.83)
5. French (17.14)
6. Portuguese (18.25)
7. West_German (19.68)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (19.75)


Corsican

1. Spanish_Aragon (15.23)
2. Spanish_Andalucia (15.33)
3. Spanish_Galicia (17.52)
4. North_Italian (17.66)
5. Portuguese (17.99)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (18.39)
7. French_Provence (18.73)
8. French (19.68)


Sardinian

1. Romanian (22.10)
2. Serbian (24.73)
3. Macedonian (24.87)
4. Bosnian (27.20)
5. Croatian (27.26)
6. Bulgarian (29.11)
7. Greek_Thessaly (32.20)
8. Greek (35.71)


Italian Abruzzo

1. Armenian (9.918)
2. South_Italian (12.93)
3. East_Sicilian (13.96)
4. West_Sicilian (13.96)
5. Turkish (21.65)
6. North_Italian (22.16)
7. Greek_Islands (22.19)
8. Spanish_Extremadura (23.94)


South Italian

1. East_Sicilian (10.06)
2. West_Sicilian (10.06)
3. Armenian (12.07)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (12.93)
5. Turkish (14.08)
6. Greek_Crete (16.67)
7. Jordanian (17.18)
8. Greek_Islands (17.70)


East Sicilian

1. West_Sicilian (0.0)
2. Greek_Islands (10.06)
3. South_Italian (10.06)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (13.96)
5. Greek (14.62)
6. Turkish (16.53)
7. Armenian (16.73)
8. Central_Greek (20.0)


West Sicilian

1. East_Sicilian (0.0)
2. Greek_Islands (10.06)
3. South_Italian (10.06)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (13.96)
5. Greek (14.62)
6. Turkish (16.53)
7. Armenian (16.73)
8. Central_Greek (20.0)


Also Greeks have some differences between them.


Greek Thessaly

1. Bulgarian (7.778)
2. Macedonian (9.656)
3. Greek (12.85)
4. Central_Greek (14.37)
5. Romanian (16.04)
6. Greek_Islands (17.05)
7. Moldavian (19.60)
8. Hungarian (20.24)


Greek

1. Greek_Islands (7.826)
2. Central_Greek (10.07)
3. Greek_Thessaly (12.85)
4. East_Sicilian (14.62)
5. West_Sicilian (14.62)
6. Kurdish (15.85)
7. Turkish (16.06)
8. Greek_Crete (17.15)


Central Greek

1. Greek (10.07)
2. Greek_Islands (12.09)
3. Greek_Thessaly (14.37)
4. Bulgarian (17.05)
5. Macedonian (18.06)
6. East_Sicilian (20.0)
7. West_Sicilian (20.0)
8. Cyprian (20.81)


Cyprian Greek

1. Cyprian (2.449)
2. Ashkenazi (10.0)
3. Jordanian (12.52)
4. Lebanese_Christian (12.75)
5. Kurdish (17.1)
6. Greek_Crete (17.10)
7. Turkish (17.21)
8. South_Italian (18.62)


Cyprian

1. Cyprian_Greek (2.449)
2. Ashkenazi (9.924)
3. Lebanese_Christian (13.00)
4. Jordanian (14.40)
5. Turkish (16.77)
6. Kurdish (16.81)
7. Greek_Crete (16.95)
8. Greek (19.01)

Turkish

1. Greek_Crete (9.124)
2. Kurdish (10.64)
3. South_Italian (14.08)
4. Ashkenazi (14.32)
5. Iranian (14.56)
6. Armenian (15.54)
7. Azeri (16.03)
8. Greek (16.06)


Ashkenazi

1. Cyprian (9.924)
2. Cyprian_Greek (10.0)
3. Kurdish (11.53)
4. Lebanese_Christian (12.61)
5. Greek_Crete (13.87)
6. Turkish (14.32)
7. Syrian (16.09)
8. Jordanian (16.64)


Armenian

1. Italian_Abruzzo (9.918)
2. South_Italian (12.07)
3. Turkish (15.54)
4. East_Sicilian (16.73)
5. West_Sicilian (16.73)
6. Greek_Crete (18.77)
7. Kurdish (22.20)
8. Greek_Islands (22.83)


Greek Islands

1. Greek (7.826)
2. East_Sicilian (10.06)
3. West_Sicilian (10.06)
4. Central_Greek (12.09)
5. Turkish (16.72)
6. Greek_Thessaly (17.05)
7. South_Italian (17.70)
8. Kurdish (18.15)

Greek Crete

1. Kurdish (9.022)
2. Turkish (9.124)
3. Syrian (11.97)
4. Ashkenazi (13.87)
5. Sephardic_Jewish (14.32)
6. Azeri (15.04)
7. Lebanese_Christian (15.12)
8. South_Italian (16.67)

Portuguese

1. Spanish_Galicia (5.852)
2. French_Provence (6.576)
3. Spanish_Andalucia (8.246)
4. French_Alsace (8.396)
5. Spanish_Extremadura (8.529)
6. North_Italian (9.367)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.46)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.74)

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French

1. French_Alsace (6.062)
2. Belgian (6.103)
3. French_Provence (8.246)
4. Spanish_Galicia (9.0)
5. Spanish_Valencia (10.59)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (10.73)
7. North_Italian (11.09)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (11.10)


French Alsace

1. French (6.062)
2. North_Italian (6.946)
3. Spanish_Galicia (7.664)
4. French_Provence (7.921)
5. Portuguese (8.396)
6. Spanish_Cantabria (10.81)
7. Belgian (11.29)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (11.40)

French Basque

1. Irish (7.632)
2. French_Brittany (9.287)
3. French_Normandy (11.57)
4. Cornish (12.85)
5. Welsh (16.30)
6. Scottish (17.43)
7. West_Scottish (17.74)
8. Southwest_English (20.13)

French Brittany

1. Irish (4.062)
2. Cornish (5.873)
3. French_Normandy (6.538)
4. Welsh (8.616)
5. French_Basque (9.287)
6. Scottish (11.23)
7. West_Scottish (11.69)
8. Southwest_English (11.84)


French Normandy

1. Cornish (5.590)
2. French_Brittany (6.538)
3. Irish (6.576)
4. Welsh (6.964)
5. Scottish (9.354)
6. West_Scottish (9.433)
7. Southwest_English (10.24)
8. Northeast_Scottish (11.56)


French Provence

1. Portuguese (6.576)
2. Spanish_Cantabria (7.331)
3. French_Alsace (7.921)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (8.015)
5. French (8.246)
6. Spanish_Galicia (8.276)
7. Spanish_Valencia (9.759)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.810)


French Rhone Alpes

1. Northeast_English (9.552)
2. Belgian (9.848)
3. English (10.06)
4. Scottish (10.31)
5. Spanish_Cataluna (10.90)
6. Cornish (11.30)
7. French (11.36)
8. West_Scottish (11.40)


Spanish Andalucia

1. Spanish_Galicia (7.466)
2. French_Provence (8.015)
3. Portuguese (8.246)
4. Spanish_Aragon (8.958)
5. Spanish_Valencia (9.055)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (10.63)
7. French (11.10)
8. French_Alsace (11.40)

Spanish Cantabria

1. French_Provence (7.331)
2. French_Alsace (10.81)
3. Portuguese (11.20)
4. North_Italian (11.30)
5. French (12.03)
6. Spanish_Andalucia (12.84)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.24)
8. Spanish_Galicia (14.15)


Spanish Castilla La Mancha

1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.745)
2. French_Provence (11.88)
3. Spanish_Galicia (12.33)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (13.11)
5. French (13.55)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.65)
7. Spanish_Valencia (13.72)
8. Portuguese (13.87)


Spanish Castilla Y Leon

1. Spanish_Valencia (6.782)
2. Spanish_Cataluna (8.860)
3. French_Provence (9.810)
4. Portuguese (10.46)
5. Spanish_Andalucia (12.28)
6. Spanish_Galicia (13.02)
7. Spanish_Cantabria (13.24)
8. French (13.57)

Spanish Cataluna

1. Spanish_Valencia (7.280)
2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.745)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.860)
4. French_Provence (10.08)
5. Spanish_Andalucia (10.63)
6. French (10.73)
7. French_RhoneAlpes (10.90)
8. Spanish_Galicia (11.62)


Spanish Extremadura

1. Portuguese (8.529)
2. North_Italian (10.31)
3. Spanish_Galicia (11.64)
4. French_Alsace (11.82)
5. French_Provence (13.65)
6. Spanish_Andalucia (13.79)
7. Spanish_Cantabria (15.27)
8. Spanish_Valencia (16.03)



Spanish Galicia

1. Portuguese (5.852)
2. Spanish_Andalucia (7.466)
3. French_Alsace (7.664)
4. French_Provence (8.276)
5. French (9.0)
6. North_Italian (9.746)
7. Spanish_Valencia (10.57)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (11.62)


Spanish Valencia

1. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (6.782)
2. Spanish_Cataluna (7.280)
3. Spanish_Andalucia (9.055)
4. French_Provence (9.759)
5. Spanish_Galicia (10.57)
6. French (10.59)
7. Portuguese (10.74)
8. French_Alsace (12.20)

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Bulgarian

1. Macedonian (5.545)
2. Greek_Thessaly (7.778)
3. Romanian (13.76)
4. Central_Greek (17.05)
5. Serbian (17.26)
6. Greek (18.26)
7. Moldavian (19.39)
8. Greek_Islands (22.41)

Romanian

1. Macedonian (11.23)
2. Serbian (12.22)
3. Bulgarian (13.76)
4. Croatian (14.80)
5. Moldavian (15.76)
6. Greek_Thessaly (16.04)
7. Hungarian (19.64)
8. Sardinian (22.10)



Macedonian

1. Bulgarian (5.545)
2. Greek_Thessaly (9.656)
3. Romanian (11.23)
4. Serbian (16.53)
5. Greek (17.64)
6. Central_Greek (18.06)
7. Moldavian (21.26)
8. Greek_Islands (22.48)



Bosnian

1. Croatian (14.90)
2. Serbian (17.39)
3. Romanian (24.85)
4. Sardinian (27.20)
5. Macedonian (31.26)
6. Moldavian (31.94)
7. Bulgarian (32.91)
8. Greek_Thessaly (37.92)


Serbian


1. Croatian (9.937)
2. Romanian (12.22)
3. Macedonian (16.53)
4. Bulgarian (17.26)
5. Bosnian (17.39)
6. Moldavian (19.69)
7. Greek_Thessaly (21.71)
8. Sardinian (24.73)



Slovenian

1. Slovakian (8.321)
2. Hungarian (12.32)
3. Moldavian (13.30)
4. Ukrainian (14.08)
5. Czech (16.27)
6. Belorussian (21.27)
7. Croatian (24.54)
8. Polish (25.29)



Croatian

1. Serbian (9.937)
2. Romanian (14.80)
3. Bosnian (14.90)
4. Moldavian (17.58)
5. Macedonian (23.05)
6. Hungarian (23.48)
7. Bulgarian (23.5)
8. Slovenian (24.54)


Austrian

1. East_German (12.13)
2. North_German (12.21)
3. Czech (16.56)
4. West_German (18.95)
5. Hungarian (19.86)
6. North_Italian (24.06)
7. North_Dutch (24.61)
8. South_Dutch (24.61)



West German


1. North_Dutch (8.732)
2. South_Dutch (8.732)
3. North_Italian (11.78)
4. French_Alsace (13.29)
5. French (14.19)
6. Southeast_English (14.22)
7. Southern_Scottish (15.38)
8. Belgian (15.51)



North German


1. East_German (6.557)
2. Austrian (12.21)
3. Norwegian (15.39)
4. Danish (17.43)
5. Czech (18.49)
6. West_German (19.03)
7. North_Dutch (22.53)
8. South_Dutch (22.53)


East German

1. North_German (6.557)
2. Austrian (12.13)
3. Czech (16.29)
4. Norwegian (17.43)
5. West_German (19.49)
6. Danish (20.65)
7. Hungarian (24.32)
8. North_Dutch (24.37)


Belgian

1. French (6.103)
2. Northeast_English (7.123)
3. English (7.697)
4. French_RhoneAlpes (9.848)
5. Southeast_English (10.19)
6. Southern_Scottish (10.65)
7. French_Alsace (11.29)
8. Northeast_Scottish (11.43)

[Stuvanè]

global 25 is just another amateur tool, but the first PCA based on component 1 and component 2 (PC1 and PC2) is more accurate than the second one, which is based on component 1 and component 3 and thus ends up producing less accurate results.

This is my Global 25

[Pax Augusta]

This is my Global 25

Thank you Stuvanè.


You are slightly east/north-east of TSI.

[torzio]

Thank you Stuvanè.


You are slightly east/north-east of TSI.

IMO
Looks like northern Umbrian or Marche


while mine shows , Alpine Veneto or Alpine Friuli
I do have church records with some relatives from Fonzaso .......especially the Toigo family

[Pax Augusta]

IMO
Looks like northern Umbrian or Marche

A northern Umbrian or someone from Marche more likely would plot south-east of TSI. Stuvanè is northern Italian and he is half Emilian and half Romagnol. Is that correct, Stuvané?

[Stuvanè]

A northern Umbrian or someone from Marche more likely would plot south-east of TSI. Stuvanè is northern Italian and he is half Emilian and half Romagnol. Is that correct, Stuvané?

Correct, Pax

[Salento]

3D Ancient (bonus track)

[Salento]

3D PCA Plots - Ancient & Modern

[RagnarofMacedon]

i note that Scottish also Irish by Female DNA closest top7 there is Macedonian. Why would be that...?

Scottish

1. French (6.977)
2. Irish (7.947)
3. Norwegian (8.912)
4. Portuguese (9.619)
5. Swedish (9.986)
6. Macedonian (10.10)
7. German_Central (10.63)




Irish

1. French (6.777)
2. Scottish (7.947)
3. German_Central (10.16)
4. Austrian (10.18)
5. Macedonian (10.57)
6. Hungarian (11.04)
7. Portuguese (11.16)

[Jovialis]

Here is my Ancient 3D PCA:



I was able to convert the Mp4 video to GIF format, by uploading it to the online converter in the link below:

https://www.onlineconverter.com/mp4-to-gif

After that, I uploaded the converted GIF to imgur, to obtain a BBCode to paste in my post.

[Wheal]

In my dad's My True Ancestry pca, one of his sample 'match' is Colonial American Pennsylvania Shohola 1700 ad. I'm not surprised about that. His maternal grandfather's line settled in the North East, primarily New Jersey/Manhattan, NY in the 1600's.

[Salento]

Deleted -:

redundant

[iamjayroth]

Thats cool. Wonder what mine is???

[Duarte]

MTA - 3D ANCIENT PCA


https://imgur.com/a/YGjKkuI

MTA - 3D MODERN PCA


https://imgur.com/a/p5976Uy

[Salento]

Timelines (default)

Genotyping has too many limitations.

it's fun, but it’s time for some serious Sequencing.

It's not a criticism to MTA, they just run the raw-data we give them, just like Gedmatch and everybody else.

There are noticeable discrepancies between the kits, and too many uncertainties.

Sequencing companies should provide a backward compatible Raw-Data format, just like the main Genotyping companies.

I HOPE THEY’RE LISTENING

imho :)

[Jovialis]

Genotyping has too many limitations.

it's fun, but it’s time for some serious Sequencing.

It's not a criticism to MTA, they just run the raw-data we give them, just like Gedmatch and everybody else.

There are noticeable discrepancies between the kits, and too many uncertainties.

Sequencing companies should provide a backward compatible Raw-Data format, just like the main Genotyping companies.

I HOPE THEY’RE LISTENING

imho :)

They do support Dante Labs, which does professional grade sequencing. I would be interested to see how my results from a test like that would match up against the lesser SNP-testing genotyping kits. However, I'll wait until it is within the price range of average direct-to-consumer genomics testing.

You're right, the discrepancies come from the alogrithim assigning ancestry based on incomplete information due to genotyping, which is what all the big companies do. Even Helix that touted having access to whole-genome sequencing, did not utilize it. The Geno 2.0 test has probably the lowest amount of SNPs tested, compared to any other company.

In addition to consumer genomics companies having different standards on assigning ancestry. They are also looking at incomplete information, they infer that determination on. Both aspect vary from company to company.

[Salento]

They do support Dante Labs, which does professional grade sequencing. I would be interested to see how my results from a test like that would match up against the lesser SNP-testing genotyping kits. However, I'll wait until it is within the price range of average direct-to-consumer genomics testing.

You're right, the discrepancies come from the alogrithim assigning ancestry based on incomplete information due to genotyping, which is what all the big companies do. Even Helix that touted having access to whole-genome sequencing, did not utilize it. The Geno 2.0 test has probably the lowest amount of SNPs tested, compared to any other company.

In addition to consumer genomics companies having different standards on assigning ancestry. They are also looking at incomplete information, they infer that determination on. Both aspect vary from company to company.

There are two options:
GenomeZ and GenomeL

I wonder what's best for us, in the long run.

[torzio]

Scythians,48
Getae,29.2
Germanics,10
Hellenes,5.6
Thracians,2.6
Slavs,2.4
Baltics,2.2

[Salento]

Scythians,48
Getae,29.2
Germanics,10
Hellenes,5.6
Thracians,2.6
Slavs,2.4
Baltics,2.2

... I guess, ... your Inverted Closest Samples?

[torzio]

... I guess, ... your Inverted Closest Samples?

These are the BC only admixtures.

I was told that getae is a goth-thracian union

[Salento]

These are the BC only admixtures.

I was told that getae is a goth-thracian union

You wrote Hellenes, but somehow I’m thinking Illyrians too.

[torzio]

You wrote Hellenes, but somehow I’m thinking Illyrians too.

The program wrote hellenes....i agree with you on illyrian.
Illyrians oncame from modern day odessa, ukraine area circa 1600bc to basically vienna lands.

I will get further info once my new pc is up and going

[matty74]

I used the same raw data to make 2 separate kits. Both are slightly different from each other. The third (which I deleted) was identical to #2. My 1st kit was the original and I uploaded another copy later on.

#1

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.181)
Celt + Longobard (2.314)
Longobard (5.104)
Celt (5.472)
Viking Icelandic (6.764)

#2

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.147)
Celt + Longobard (2.239)
Longobard (5.147)
Celt (5.432)
Viking Icelandic (6.814)