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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... as of now:


    J C :



    ... in his prime (imho) :

    That's very good. Did you do it?

    Quite handsome. Well, it makes sense. All those bedroom conquests for which he was known couldn't have just been based on charm. :)

    It seems I should be embracing my Scythian side. :) Strange. Other "tests" have shown it as well.

    @Stuvane,
    Maybe a lost metal merchant bringing copper.


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    Had to re-upload for new Deep Dive matches so here are the new ones:

    AncestryDNA V2.0 - Total SNPs: 677864

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    map of my data
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    I wonder who the hell is that Illirian/Dalmatian positioned in Britain
    Is it a mistake or have I missed a few passes?:)




    Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its sources for its references? the number for the "illyrian" sample is I4331, any clue which study it could be from? I'm guessing they mixed up the name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    @Lenab, sure. And many times many of the soldiers were recruited in the Balkans. But that dating sounds strange to me: 1600 BC (!).
    I would expect to find an Illyrian in Britain at the height of the imperial age, not towards the end of the Bronze Age
    Not sure where my comment went but yes. But look it up online.

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    Yeah, they've mixed up the location. Sample I4331 is the one found in croatian coast, from Mathieson 2018. Pretty big mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johane Derite View Post
    Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its sources for its references? the number for the "illyrian" sample is I4331, any clue which study it could be from? I'm guessing they mixed up the name.
    Why would that be wrong...But everything else ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johane Derite View Post
    Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its sources for its references? the number for the "illyrian" sample is I4331, any clue which study it could be from? I'm guessing they mixed up the name.
    it is the same spot on map as mine in post 1253.........yet mine is the correct name


    Veliki Vanik burial mound is located near the town ofVrgoracin Split-Dalmatia County in southern Croatia. The mound ismade of rock and soil deposit with a circular base of 20 m in diameter and a relative height of 3.5 m. Itwas partly destroyedduring the Early Modern Period when the stone drywall was erected and some of the rock material was harvested from the site. Three Bronze Age graves -one in the shape of a stone coffin and two inhumations in plain soil -containing the remains of five individuals were explored during the rescue excavations. Radiocarbon datesand preservedartifacts(hair ornament made of coiled copper wire and fragments of pottery) datethese burialsto the Early/MiddleBronze AgeI4331/ VV1Poorly preserved subadult (5-7 years).


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    the other Illyrian

    I3313/ JAZ1Radovanci (1 individual)The Radovanci site is located in Slavonia, in continental Croatia, approximately 15 km north of the town of Požega. The site isa destroyed settlement that was in use during the Sopot and Balaton-Lasinya cultures.23Archaeological excavations were carried out in 2005 and one skeleton was recovered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenab View Post
    Why would that be wrong...But everything else ok?
    I got the same until I refreshed the maps......hit the 2 arrows which form a circle

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I got the same until I refreshed the maps......hit the 2 arrows which form a circle
    Ok but I don't think my result changed into a different time with those people

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    Hello every body. I ,m holidays. I,m very results illergete and vascones or carolingios also Al Andalus, hispano romano, iberian, califato Córdoba, Valencia and in the 4 site one new celtiberian alemanic mix + ó - When I return published now is very dificultouse. Regards and happy Holidays.

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    Maybe the Germano-Celt gladiator stayed around in York...I have ancestors from Yorkshire and Lancashire in northern England. Screen Shot 2019-08-24 at 9.26.47 PM.jpg

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    And we have my Proto-Celt from Scotland and the Lombard guy, even though I match closer to Franks and Visigoths among Germanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    That's very good. Did you do it?

    Quite handsome. Well, it makes sense. All those bedroom conquests for which he was known couldn't have just been based on charm. :)

    It seems I should be embracing my Scythian side. :) Strange. Other "tests" have shown it as well.
    Yes, I tweaked it a bit, ...

    ... in his early 20s



    ... in his prime



    ... original



    (The previous images got deleted by mistake, but I re-uploaded the same pics again)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    I wonder who the hell is that Illirian/Dalmatian positioned in Britain
    Is it a mistake or have I missed a few passes?:)






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    The Morisco is gone :) Just like the Sicilian did


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    new late bronze age match for myself ...sample mj12




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    Good news for all those who have matches with the illyrian I4331. They corrected the location of ancient sample to Dalmatia, according to the paper below. Cheers to all and nice Sunday.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Yes, I tweaked it a bit, ...
    ... in his early 20s

    ... in his prime

    ... original

    (The previous images got deleted by mistake, but I re-uploaded the same pics again)
    That's with faceapp right? The younger one looks a little bit like my younger brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    That's with faceapp right? The younger one looks a little bit like my younger brother.
    From what I've been reading around, I concluded that his real hairstyle would have been a bit different from that shown in the original image. (It’s a matter of hairline control as he got older :)

    Faceapp and Photoshop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Good news for all those who have matches with the illyrian I4331. They corrected the location of ancient sample to Dalmatia, according to the paper below. Cheers to all and nice Sunday.



    @ Thanks Duarte.
    Now it makes sense :)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Good news for all those who have matches with the illyrian I4331. They corrected the location of ancient sample to Dalmatia, according to the paper below. Cheers to all and nice Sunday.



    thanks


    I4331, I4332, Early/Middle Bronze Age, 1700-1500 BCE

    http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135616
    doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/135616

    I4331
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    The Copper Age Anatolian sample now shows up on the map in the Neolithic. I0184 looks like it comes from North-Western Anatolia, in 3800 BC:



    I believe this is what links me to a lot of the other samples from later time periods; via other groups who share the Copper Age Anatolians as a source population:



    As for the deep dive, all I get is 0.67 cM for the Mycenaean sample, I9033:



    Here is the full-archaeology map, with some new additions:


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    88. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 20.25 - I3582 (Click for more info)
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    96. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 21.49 - SZ18 (Click for more info)
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    98. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.51 - I3576 (Click for more info)
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    Comparing the new samples added MTA, from the Reich et al 2019 paper to my Eurogenes heat map. After the Balkans, Iberians are my closest, as the yellow shows. I would bet that is has a great deal to do with the Greek and Roman influence to Iberia.

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