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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    According to the Amorim charts of genetic structure at Szolad and Collegno: These were the Pannonian Roman samples

    SZ43 is mostly TSI or Tuscan-like with about 30pc IBS (Iberian-like), with less than 10pc CEU+GBR (North European);

    SZ36 is about 75pc Tuscan-like and 25pc Iberian (IBS);

    SZ32 is about 60pc TSI and 40pc IBS;

    SZ19 is 100pc TSI or Tuscan-like.
    This is strange.....
    IMG_3743.jpg

    What is the meaning of this

    IMG_3744.jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
    This is strange.....
    IMG_3743.jpg

    What is the meaning of this

    IMG_3744.jpg
    I don’t see what so strange about it.

    Ain’t you happy, Smile, you’re a Salentino too. LOL



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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I don’t see what so strange about it.

    Ain’t you happy, Smile, you’re a Salentino too. LOL



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    If this mean I am Salentino.....great, it seems more than you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
    This is strange.....
    IMG_3743.jpg

    What is the meaning of this

    IMG_3744.jpg


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    It means Albanians and Tuscans are relatively similar, which we've known forever. On some PCAs Albanians are eastward shifted Tuscans, while on some they overlap. It depends on the Tuscan samples used and sometimes on who's doing the PCA, if you want my personal opinion (i.e. what they want to prove).

    Albanians are also like a northern subset of mainland Greeks on some PCAs.

    None of this is new, really.

    My latest ancient matches:


    There's one gedmatch test which has no Northern Italian or even Tuscan samples. The algorithm searched for the next closest groups, and if I remember correctly, it came out Bulgarian first and then Albanian.

    @Dibran,
    SZ36 is the one who is most Tuscan like. SZ43 is a bit different. Maybe drifting toward the Romagna?

    My closest result
    is SZ43 which is slightly north of SZ36, the most Tuscan like sample, which makes sense for the Lunigiana/eastern Liguria, and my next closest is a Collegno sample which is similar to Emilians (and I'm half Emilian), CL36. It all makes perfect sense, at least for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    It means Albanians and Tuscans are relatively similar, which we've known forever. On some PCAs Albanians are eastward shifted Tuscans, while on some they overlap. It depends on the Tuscan samples used and sometimes on who's doing the PCA, if you want my personal opinion (i.e. what they want to prove).

    Albanians are also like a northern subset of mainland Greeks on some PCAs.

    None of this is new, really.

    My latest ancient matches:


    There's one gedmatch test which has no Northern Italian or even Tuscan samples. The algorithm searched for the next closest groups, and if I remember correctly, it came out Bulgarian first and then Albanian.

    @Dibran,
    SZ36 is the one who is most Tuscan like. SZ43 is a bit different. Maybe drifting toward the Romagna?

    My closest result
    is SZ43 which is slightly north of SZ36, the most Tuscan like sample, which makes sense for the Lunigiana/eastern Liguria, and my next closest is a Collegno sample which is similar to Emilians (and I'm half Emilian), CL36. It all makes perfect sense, at least for me.
    Thanks for your explanation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
    If this mean I am Salentino.....great, it seems more than you.
    They gave you a better explanation.

    Keep in mind that under the right circumstances we can see each other’s Countries.

    I saw Albania a few times from San Foca and Otranto (Salento, Italy).

    There has been and there still is some exchange between our shores that has been going on for Millennia.

    The Albanian Mountains viewed from Salento (Italy)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Torzio

    Your top y T sample (CL23) dropped some and the other T (SZ36) went up.

    Are the 2 results you posted from the same Raw-Data?


    My Top y T sample (SZ36) goes from first to second depending on the RawData.

    for example:

    Combined RawData:


    Ancestry:




    23v5:

    What is sz28 marker.....different papers state different things
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    What is sz28 marker.....different papers state different things
    For MTA SZ28 is a Gallo Roman:






    SZ28 Modern Group


    1. North_Italian (5.633)
    2. Spanish_Andalucia (8.510)
    3. Spanish_Extremadura (10.02)
    4. Spanish_Valencia (10.03)
    5. Portuguese (10.26)
    6. Spanish_Murcia (10.30)
    7. Spanish_Cataluna (10.31)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.41)


    SZ28 PCA Ancient




    SZ28 PCA Modern

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    For MTA SZ28 is a Gallo Roman:






    SZ28 Modern Group


    1. North_Italian (5.633)
    2. Spanish_Andalucia (8.510)
    3. Spanish_Extremadura (10.02)
    4. Spanish_Valencia (10.03)
    5. Portuguese (10.26)
    6. Spanish_Murcia (10.30)
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    SZ28 PCA Ancient




    SZ28 PCA Modern
    I mean its mtdna as it is a female

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I mean its mtdna as it is a female

    Edit:

    SZ28 mtDNA is H3b5 according to:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...OESM4-ESM.xlsx

    ... the link works perfectly on my Safari browser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post

    Edit:

    SZ28 mtDNA is H3b5 according to:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...OESM4-ESM.xlsx

    ... the link works perfectly on my Safari browser.
    thanks


    my father results below.........i ignored anything from 97% or lower

    1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 8.072 - SZ45 (Click for more info)
    Top 98% match vs all users

    2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.577 - CL94 (Click for more info)
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    3. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.617 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
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    6. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.835 - I5769 (Click for more info)
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    7. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.766 - CL36 (Click for more info)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    It means Albanians and Tuscans are relatively similar, which we've known forever. On some PCAs Albanians are eastward shifted Tuscans, while on some they overlap. It depends on the Tuscan samples used and sometimes on who's doing the PCA, if you want my personal opinion (i.e. what they want to prove).

    Albanians are also like a northern subset of mainland Greeks on some PCAs.

    None of this is new, really.

    My latest ancient matches:


    There's one gedmatch test which has no Northern Italian or even Tuscan samples. The algorithm searched for the next closest groups, and if I remember correctly, it came out Bulgarian first and then Albanian.

    @Dibran,
    SZ36 is the one who is most Tuscan like. SZ43 is a bit different. Maybe drifting toward the Romagna?

    My closest result
    is SZ43 which is slightly north of SZ36, the most Tuscan like sample, which makes sense for the Lunigiana/eastern Liguria, and my next closest is a Collegno sample which is similar to Emilians (and I'm half Emilian), CL36. It all makes perfect sense, at least for me.
    Very, very, interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    thanks


    my father results below.........i ignored anything from 97% or lower

    1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 8.072 - SZ45 (Click for more info)
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    2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.577 - CL94 (Click for more info)
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    3. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.617 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
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    4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.818 - I3313 (Click for more info)
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    5. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.835 - I4332 (Click for more info)
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    6. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.835 - I5769 (Click for more info)
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    7. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.766 - CL36 (Click for more info)
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    my first cousin, once removed from Cles , Val di Non, Trentino, Italy ...................with mtdna of T1a1e

    1. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 (Click for more info)
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    2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 (Click for more info)
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    3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 (Click for more info)
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    4. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
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    5. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c (Click for more info)
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    6. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 (Click for more info)
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    7. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.109 - scy192 (Click for more info)
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    my wife new results ......huge % drop from 4 to 5 in the placings


    1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 6.716 - SZ45 (Click for more info)
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    2. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.715 - I4332 (Click for more info)
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    Kit Reupload, New Deep Dive:
    CL25 CL36 SZ32 SZ19 CL121 CL38 CL30 NS3c ...



    ... matching with K36 Ancient: CL25, SZ19, CL36


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    New Combined Kit (23 format)

    Map of Closest matches from Ancient Times:



    Deep Dive map:



    Mix PCA:



    Deep Dive:


    Archaeogenetic matches...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    ................
    Thank you for your response. For some reason wasn't sent notification. Apologies for delay. I assume I shift so much to these Tuscan like samples due to the very elevated "IT" component me and my father have. Highest average is among Tuscans but we have even higher than they. I imagine this is why me and my father shift towards them.

    Mine updated a little bit as well:









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    1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.095 - SZ32 (Click for more info)
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    2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.978 - SZ36 (Click for more info)
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    3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.66 - SZ43 (Click for more info)
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    4. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.11 - CL36 (Click for more info)
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    5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 12.32 - I9033 (Click for more info)
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    6. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 13.22 - NS3c (Click for more info)
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    7. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 13.63 - I4332 (Click for more info)
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    8. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 13.63 - I5769 (Click for more info)
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    9. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 13.67 - CL121 (Click for more info)
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    10. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.72 - SZ40 (Click for more info)
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    11. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.96 - SZ19 (Click for more info)
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    12. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.95 - I3575 (Click for more info)
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    13. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.13 - I3576 (Click for more info)
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    14. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.27 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
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    15. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.44 - scy192 (Click for more info)
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    16. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 15.44 - SI-53 (Click for more info)
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    17. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 15.7 - NS3b (Click for more info)
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    94
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    18. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 16.46 - I4930 (Click for more info)
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    99
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    19. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.64 - I2647 (Click for more info)
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    95
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    20. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 17.3 - I3983 (Click for more info)
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    95
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    21. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.51 - I3582 (Click for more info)
    Top
    94
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    22. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 17.81 - I12647 (Click for more info)
    Top
    93
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    23. Hellenic Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.87 - I7424 (Click for more info)
    Top
    92
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    24. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 18.35 - I7425 (Click for more info)
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    91
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    25. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 18.53 - I3981 (Click for more info)
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    91
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    26. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 18.58 - I9041 (Click for more info)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Thank you for your response. For some reason wasn't sent notification. Apologies for delay. I assume I shift so much to these Tuscan like samples due to the very elevated "IT" component me and my father have. Highest average is among Tuscans but we have even higher than they. I imagine this is why me and my father shift towards them.

    Mine updated a little bit as well:









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    This is one of the reasons I was always skeptical of the "Herodotus version" of Etruscan ethnogenesis. It seemed to me that the difference between the Albanians and the Tuscans was Northwest European versus Slavic, not the rest of the components. So, did the migration from Anatolia to Italy specifically in the first millenium BC also go to the northern Balkans? There was certainly no mention of it, and other ancient authors had a different opinion. Then, of course, there was all the archaeological evidence. So, maybe something was wrong with the narrative preferred by internet population geneticists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    They gave you a better explanation.

    Keep in mind that under the right circumstances we can see each other’s Countries.

    I saw Albania a few times from San Foca and Otranto (Salento, Italy).

    There has been and there still is some exchange between our shores that has been going on for Millennia.

    The Albanian Mountains viewed from Salento (Italy)



    https://www.lecceprima.it/speciale/f...i-otranto.html
    I knew it was close but this really puts it into perspective. For all I know, my paternal ancestors swam over lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    I knew it was close but this really puts it into perspective. For all I know, my paternal ancestors swam over lol...
    45 miles (72 km) from Capo d'Otranto, the Easternmost point of Italy, therefore it’s the closest point to Albania (Across the Adriatic Sea).


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    YSEQ: Y-DNA R1a-M459-M198-M417-CTS4385-L664-S2894-S2880
    AncestryDNA V2 with basic HG R1a-L664
    Cephalic Index: 70.64
    Bigonial breadth: 105 mm
    Facial Index: 95.79

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