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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Same God :)

    Same Setting - 590-670 AD:




    MTA & Q-Matching with I3313 Illyrian/ Dalmatian Bronze Age / 1200 BC



    I think this is very crazy, but it's not I who is saying, but MTA:

    “Às vezes ouço passar o vento; e só de ouvir o vento passar, vale a pena ter nascido”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    I think this is very crazy, but it's not I who is saying, but MTA:
    ... or, You could be heavily related to Arthas the Great - Lion of Messapia"

    ... some say that He is the original and the inspiration of King Arthur.

    Artas Principe Messapico :)



    https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messapi

    ... The Messapi were an ancient Illyrian population established in Messapia, in a territory corresponding to the Southern Murgie and Salento ..

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    my father still only has one sample for.........

    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
    Wife paternal line R1a-Z282

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    My Archaeological Maps:

    samples 30, from 100 BC, until 595 AD





    samples 30, from 100 BC, until 670 AD (Collegno and Szload samples)

    Last edited by Salento; 28-09-19 at 02:11. Reason: ... with Collegno samples 670 AD

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    Romans / Hellenic Romans

    there's plenty of room to add a couple of ETRUSCANS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    3D Sample Analysis PCA Top 4

    Romans / Hellenic Romans

    there's plenty of room to add a couple of ETRUSCANS

    Come on MTA, Give it a Shot


    Salento. I will not deny that I am anxious for the inclusion of more samples from Italy, including Etruscans, and for the release of the "Regional Aarchaeogenetics" map of Italy. The Iberians have many overlaps with the Italians and I, as aIberian-descendant , have many overlaps. Waiting, as like you, Italy and Etruscans together, coming soon :)




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    Ancestral Timeline:

    @ Duarte : also ... no Iapigi (no Messapi), ... no Etruschi ... :)

    (they’re all overlapping with others)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post

    Salento. I will not deny that I am anxious for the inclusion of more samples from Italy, including Etruscans, and for the release of the "Regional Aarchaeogenetics" map of Italy. The Iberians have many overlaps with the Italians and I, as aIberian-descendant , have many overlaps. Waiting, as like you, Italy and Etruscans together, coming soon :)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
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    @ Duarte : also ... no Iapigi (no Messapi), ... no Etruschi ... :)
    The origin of the Messapii is debated. The most credited theory is that they came from Illyria as one of the Illyrian tribes who settled in Apulia and that they emerged as a sub-tribe distinct from the rest of the Iapyges. It seems that the Iapyges spread northwards from the Salento.[8][9]


    The pre-Italic settlement of Gnatia was founded in the fifteenth century BC during the Bronze Age. It was captured and settled by the Iapyges, as they occupied large tracts of territory in Apulia. The Messapii developed a distinct identity from the Iapyges. Rudiae was first settled from the late ninth or early eighth centuries BC. In the late sixth century BC, it developed into a much more important settlement. It flourished under the Messapii, but after their defeat by Rome it dwindled and became a small village. The nearby Lupiae (Lecce) flourished at its expense. The Messapi did not have a centralised form of government. Their towns were independent city-states. They had trade relationships with the Greek cities of Magna Graecia.


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    @Duarte That’s why I wrote ... “no Iapigi (no Messapi) ...”

    otherwise I wouldn’t have added the Messapi :)

    It’s confusing because there are contradicting theories:

    ... The Iapygians were an Indo-European people who inhabited Apulia in classical antiquity. They lived in the eponymous region Iapygia and were divided in three populations: the Daunians, Peucetians and Messapians.

    Their land was annexed by the Roman Republic, and they were eventually Latinized and assimilated into Roman culture...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapygians
    Last edited by Salento; 28-09-19 at 18:35. Reason: oops, I misspelled Duarte :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Diarte That’s why I wrote ... “no Iapigi (no Messapi) ...”

    otherwise I wouldn’t have added the Messapi :)

    It’s confusing because there are contradicting theories:

    ... The Iapygians were an Indo-European people who inhabited Apulia in classical antiquity. They lived in the eponymous region Iapygia and were divided in three populations: the Daunians, Peucetians and Messapians.

    Their land was annexed by the Roman Republic, and they were eventually Latinized and assimilated into Roman culture...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapygians
    Thanks for the additional informations. You're right dear friend. The Messapians are just an overlamping with the Illyrians. The Illyrians that appears in your and in mine timelines are just overlapings. The ideal will be the inclusion of origial samples of Messapians and Iapygians peoples to fill in the gaps that exist between the north and the south on the Archeogenetic map of Italy. Big hug :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Duarte That’s why I wrote ... “no Iapigi (no Messapi) ...”

    otherwise I wouldn’t have added the Messapi :)

    It’s confusing because there are contradicting theories:

    ... The Iapygians were an Indo-European people who inhabited Apulia in classical antiquity. They lived in the eponymous region Iapygia and were divided in three populations: the Daunians, Peucetians and Messapians.

    Their land was annexed by the Roman Republic, and they were eventually Latinized and assimilated into Roman culture...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapygians
    most of the pre tribes of the apulia area seem to be umbrian
    The region was previously inhabited by Italic peoples of Southern Italy; among them are the Ausones/Oscans, Sabines, Lucani, Paeligni, Bruttii, Campanians, Aequi, Samnites and Frentani.

    the biggest of the 3 tribes the Daunians, Peucetians and Messapians.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daunians

    https://www.anticopedie.fr/mondes/mo...pulie-doc.html


    https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._Daunian_Women

    Only illyrians mixing with celts had tattooing ............
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/146195711798369328?journalCode=yeja20


    Check the net for Daunian they where the biggest of the 3 tribes ( actually , they made up nearly 50% )

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    The DNA-Spotlight reminds me of the NatGeo Genius-Matches. NatGeo uses the mtDNA and or the Y Chromosome.
    I don’t know what criteria MTA is implementing.



    from NatGeo:
    ... We determine your Genius Matches through the analysis of either mitochondrial or Y-chromosome DNA, two parts of the DNA which are inherited directly, without mixing, from one ancestor in any given generation.

    Furthermore, if you go back 150,000 years, all seven billion humans share one single, common maternal ancestor: A Mitochondrial Eve.
    Her male counterpart was Y- chromosome Adam.

    Actually, any two individual people that ever lived may share a match (an Eve or an Adam) at a more recent point in time.

    First maternal cousins, for example, share a match at the grandmother level.
    Although it’s true that every two living people share a common ancestor, in reality we share multiple ancestors.

    Some of these common ancestors lived centuries ago, while others lived and migrated across the earth millennia ago.

    ... estimate when in time you shared a direct female or direct male ancestor with a famous historical genius ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    The DNA-Spotlight reminds me of the NatGeo Genius-Matches. NatGeo uses the mtDNA and or the Y Chromosome.
    I don’t know what criteria MTA is implementing.



    from NatGeo:
    ... We determine your Genius Matches through the analysis of either mitochondrial or Y-chromosome DNA, two parts of the DNA which are inherited directly, without mixing, from one ancestor in any given generation.

    Furthermore, if you go back 150,000 years, all seven billion humans share one single, common maternal ancestor: A Mitochondrial Eve.
    Her male counterpart was Y- chromosome Adam.

    Actually, any two individual people that ever lived may share a match (an Eve or an Adam) at a more recent point in time.

    First maternal cousins, for example, share a match at the grandmother level.
    Although it’s true that every two living people share a common ancestor, in reality we share multiple ancestors.

    Some of these common ancestors lived centuries ago, while others lived and migrated across the earth millennia ago.

    ... estimate when in time you shared a direct female or direct male ancestor with a famous historical genius ...
    Dear Salento.
    I think that MTA consider just the autosomal matches with the DNA of ancient samples. At least is what I can see in my specific case.
    Cheers :)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    My Spotlights are Mummies from the Late and Ptolemaic Kingdoms in Ancient Egypt. LOL
    if NatGeo uses Haplogroups scaling for Genius Matches, they must know for sure, 100%, Ramses II and King Tut Y Haplogroups (Paternal Matches), but NatGeo doesn’t specify it to us.

    They don't specify it in any of the Genius Matches, maybe they want to avoid controversies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    if NatGeo uses Haplogroups scaling for Genius Matches, they must know for sure, 100%, Ramses II and King Tut Y Haplogroups (Paternal Matches), but NatGeo doesn’t specify it to us.

    They don't specify it in any of the Genius Matches, maybe they want to avoid controversies.
    RAMSES II - The mummy who had to get a passport


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    Your Tuscan Knight Crusader wasn't a Tuscan but someone of European and Near Eastern ancestry and can be modelled, besides being a mixture of Tuscan and Lebanese, also as a mixture of North Italian and Lebanese, and Iberian and Lebanese and so on I guess.
    https://www.sanger.ac.uk/news/view/c...ubf6RCzr93f6iM

    By Near Eastern they mean PIE Anatolian . People of the Levant of ancient times even some until Medieval times had a Anatolian or partly South European partly Anatolian ethnic origin.

    West Asian Anatolian. South West Asian Semite/Canaanite Middle eastern.

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    Richard III was definitely G2a, and Darwin R1b from what I know, so I don't see how this works.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Richard III was definitely G2a, and Darwin R1b from what I know, so I don't see how this works.
    Paternal and Maternal Haplogroups (in my case y T and mt H)

    y & mt matches for sure, the combination of the two, and related hierarchical close Haplogroups. I think :)

    Women could get less Matches because they don't have the Y chromosome.
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