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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Pax is right about the distance to that particular sample, 11.62 is fairly large. Though I'm sure, as you said ,we will all have different results when the samples are utilized. This particular calculator will have that happen, since they continuously update with new samples available. However, in regards to those samples from that "Leaked PCA"; we will still need to verify their identities, and the time-frame. I think it is important that we wait and be patient before investing so much in expectations.

    TBH, I think leaked material, that is not officially verified is bad for our discourse. It serves more to create confusion, and misinformation.

    Since none of my distances are under 10, and according to many members all samples above the 10 are considered useless, I’ve decided to post future results again, when and if I’ll get distances under 10.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Since none of my distances are under 10, and according to many members all samples above the 10 are considered useless, I’ve decided to post future results again, when and if I’ll get distances under 10.

    I'm sure once they get some samples from Puglia in the calculator, you will have a closer affinity. As will I, I'm sure. I have a feeling it will be something like:
    Latin+Magna Grecia Greek
    There can be no covenants between men and lions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I'm sure once they get some samples from Puglia in the calculator, you will have a closer affinity. As will I, I'm sure. I have a feeling it will be something like:
    Latin+Magna Grecia Greek
    Hopefully by the next month or 2, they give some kind of access to the samples of the Roman Paper that Razib Khan opined on Twitter and https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2019/...#comment-15077

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    I don't even look Scandinavian/North Germanic but all my DNA results seemingly have been overwhelmingly northwards shifted. According to the new Ancestry.com update, I'm now 1/4 Swedish? Even myheritage.com shows a lot of close cousin matches (2nd-3rd-4th cousins) with Swedes. Just super confused and making sense of these results. They seem to greatly differ in some regards as well. Maybe I need to approach this with a different mindset.

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    Your closest Ancient populations are: Vikings, Longobards and Oeselians

    Viking

    Longobard



    VikingsLongobardsOeselians


    Viking + Longobard (6.975)
    Oeselian + Longobard (8.454)
    Viking (11.32)
    Oeselian (13.98)
    Longobard (15.01)

    You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)Info


    Medieval Oeselian Saaremaa


    1270 AD


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    Largest segment=6.29 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 39) - Your raw DNA is
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    ... Comprehensive:

    ... Razib Khan| re: Rome. paper out in 1 month.

    the results looked like this to me:

    1) no difference between Etruscans and Latins

    2) massive shift toward ‘Eastern’ affinity during the Imperial Period

    3) shift ‘back’ after the Late Antique Period

    Basically, I think it is in line with work which suggests large fractions of non-natives in *cities*. When cities declined this genetic imprint diminished and Medieval cities were repopulated from rural areas ...

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    I had to check it out, what these two totally new groups for me, Longobards and Oeselians really are?

    ps my summer cottage is "only" 350 km from Oesel, but I have never even heard the name of that island I knew the name in Estonian language: Saaremaa and Finnish Saarenmaa ("Island´s land" or "The land of an island"
    ).


    This information was really, really interesting. I am very happy that I found Eupedia, and got already so much interesting information


    http://www.nordicestonia.com/nordic/estonian-vikings/




    VIKINGS


    In the frozen north, a land of people clung to the ancient gods in a land whose earth would freeze over in winter and sun would hide away for months. The land bred harsh warriors with mastery of metals to fight away the greedy ****** and thieving dwarves. Sailors would brave the sea in dangerous waters fighting the storms of Thor the god of thunder. The seafaring culture started raiding further and further outside their homeland in Scandinavia. Small villages were raided at first, but once slaves and money started flowing in the Vikings became ever ambitious. The Vikings were ruthless and fearless with bloodlust only rivaled by their desire for fame. Ragnar Lodbrok was one such Viking who raided England and Paris. Eventually Vikings settled the 'Danelaw' in England, Scotland and Ireland and the Danish King Knut unified the whole of England.



    LONGOBARDS


    The Longobards (Winnili) were a pre-Viking era Scandinavian tribe who migrated south towards Germania. Upon reaching Germania, the Winnili ran into conflict with the powerful Germanic Vandals. Both sides appealed to their chief god Odin for victory. To achieve victory against the more numerous Vandals, the godess Freia told the Winnili women to tie their hair to look like beards. Odin saw them standing in the field and asked who are these long beard warriors? After their victory the Winnili were called the Longbeards which in time renamed to Longobards/Lombards. Not finding adequate food resources, they ventured into Pannonia in modern day Hungary. There the Longobards allied with the Avars to defeat the Gepids, but all the spoils went to the Avars. As a result, the Longobards under King Alboin left the region and relocated into northern Italy where the land was ripe and by then the Longobards had a fierce reputation. The Byzantine Empire had spent vast amounts of money defeating the Ostrogoths and now had the Longobards to deal with. Eventually the Longobard Kingdom of Italy was split between two rulers, one at Milan and the other at Pavia. Weakened by internal fighting, Charlemagne of the Franks seized the lands of the Longobards and absorbed it into the kingdom of the Franks. However, some territories survived under Lombard dukes.





    OESELIANS


    The Old Norse Sagas mention the Finnic Vikings from Estonia (Vikingr fra Esthland). The largest island of Estonia called Oesel (or Saaremaa) was home to the Oeselians, fierce warriors who sailed ships called piraticas which dragon or snakehead prows and quadranguar sails. One saga mentions a fierce battle off the coast of Saaremaa between Oeselians and Icelandic Vikings in 972 AD. The Livonian Chronicle mentions how they were surrounded by the sea and never fear strong armies as their strength is in their ships. In summers they oppressed surrounding lands by raiding both Christians and pagans. A fleet of Oeselians ravaged southern Sweden and forced Danish King Valdemar I to mobilize his entire fleet to stop them. Oeselians most famous raid was an attack on the former Swedish capital and Viking city of Sigtuna. The head god of the Oeselians was Tharapita (associated to Thor) who was born on a forested mountain in Estonia and flew to Saaremaa. This co-incided with a major meteor disaster in 660 BC that formed a huge crater on the island.

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    Does anybody know, do they have at MyTrueAncestry often campaigns? If I choose Caesar level now, are there sometimes upgades cheaper than difference as the list price 100 USD?

    I tried first to download my FTDNA Big Y 700, but I did´t succeed with it. Autosomal went through easy. Did I something wrong, or isn´t it possible to load Y 700 on level zero?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivar of Rasa Bol View Post
    Does anybody know, do they have at MyTrueAncestry often campaigns? If I choose Caesar level now, are there sometimes upgades cheaper than difference as the list price 100 USD?

    I tried first to download my FTDNA Big Y 700, but I did´t succeed with it. Autosomal went through easy. Did I something wrong, or isn´t it possible to load Y 700 on level zero?
    Hi Ivar of Rasa.

    MTA works only with the autosomal DNA. Big Y has only the Y chromosome SNPs, which trace the origin of your direct paternal ancestry, but not your ethnicity. Ethnicity is determined by autosomal DNA. The matches did by MTA with ancient samples are autosomal (SNPs present on chromosomes 1 to 22). Y DNA (paternal) and mitochondrial DNA (maternal) SNPs are not used by MTA, which is why the raw data of the FASTA file from your Big Y was not uploaded, as it contains, as has been said before, only the SNPs of your Y chromosome that are useful only to determine your paternal haplogroup. As for promotions, there was one in September offering the Zeus level for USD 25.00 to all those who were Caesar level. I had enjoyed this promotion. Now we can only wait for other promotions. Cheers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... Comprehensive:

    ... Razib Khan| re: Rome. paper out in 1 month.

    the results looked like this to me:

    1) no difference between Etruscans and Latins

    2) massive shift toward ‘Eastern’ affinity during the Imperial Period

    3) shift ‘back’ after the Late Antique Period

    Basically, I think it is in line with work which suggests large fractions of non-natives in *cities*. When cities declined this genetic imprint diminished and Medieval cities were repopulated from rural areas ...
    If R. K. is right, These could easily be the results of an Ancient Roman.

    You = Ancient Roman :





    Salento :) above and below:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivar of Rasa Bol View Post
    I had to check it out, what these two totally new groups for me, Longobards and Oeselians really are?

    ps my summer cottage is "only" 350 km from Oesel, but I have never even heard the name of that island I knew the name in Estonian language: Saaremaa and Finnish Saarenmaa ("Island´s land" or "The land of an island"
    ).


    This information was really, really interesting. I am very happy that I found Eupedia, and got already so much interesting information


    http://www.nordicestonia.com/nordic/estonian-vikings/




    VIKINGS


    In the frozen north, a land of people clung to the ancient gods in a land whose earth would freeze over in winter and sun would hide away for months. The land bred harsh warriors with mastery of metals to fight away the greedy ****** and thieving dwarves. Sailors would brave the sea in dangerous waters fighting the storms of Thor the god of thunder. The seafaring culture started raiding further and further outside their homeland in Scandinavia. Small villages were raided at first, but once slaves and money started flowing in the Vikings became ever ambitious. The Vikings were ruthless and fearless with bloodlust only rivaled by their desire for fame. Ragnar Lodbrok was one such Viking who raided England and Paris. Eventually Vikings settled the 'Danelaw' in England, Scotland and Ireland and the Danish King Knut unified the whole of England.



    LONGOBARDS


    The Longobards (Winnili) were a pre-Viking era Scandinavian tribe who migrated south towards Germania. Upon reaching Germania, the Winnili ran into conflict with the powerful Germanic Vandals. Both sides appealed to their chief god Odin for victory. To achieve victory against the more numerous Vandals, the godess Freia told the Winnili women to tie their hair to look like beards. Odin saw them standing in the field and asked who are these long beard warriors? After their victory the Winnili were called the Longbeards which in time renamed to Longobards/Lombards. Not finding adequate food resources, they ventured into Pannonia in modern day Hungary. There the Longobards allied with the Avars to defeat the Gepids, but all the spoils went to the Avars. As a result, the Longobards under King Alboin left the region and relocated into northern Italy where the land was ripe and by then the Longobards had a fierce reputation. The Byzantine Empire had spent vast amounts of money defeating the Ostrogoths and now had the Longobards to deal with. Eventually the Longobard Kingdom of Italy was split between two rulers, one at Milan and the other at Pavia. Weakened by internal fighting, Charlemagne of the Franks seized the lands of the Longobards and absorbed it into the kingdom of the Franks. However, some territories survived under Lombard dukes.





    OESELIANS


    The Old Norse Sagas mention the Finnic Vikings from Estonia (Vikingr fra Esthland). The largest island of Estonia called Oesel (or Saaremaa) was home to the Oeselians, fierce warriors who sailed ships called piraticas which dragon or snakehead prows and quadranguar sails. One saga mentions a fierce battle off the coast of Saaremaa between Oeselians and Icelandic Vikings in 972 AD. The Livonian Chronicle mentions how they were surrounded by the sea and never fear strong armies as their strength is in their ships. In summers they oppressed surrounding lands by raiding both Christians and pagans. A fleet of Oeselians ravaged southern Sweden and forced Danish King Valdemar I to mobilize his entire fleet to stop them. Oeselians most famous raid was an attack on the former Swedish capital and Viking city of Sigtuna. The head god of the Oeselians was Tharapita (associated to Thor) who was born on a forested mountain in Estonia and flew to Saaremaa. This co-incided with a major meteor disaster in 660 BC that formed a huge crater on the island.
    Thanks for sharing Ivar, nice to see new civilizations like Oesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Torzio you match my CL36 and SZ37, besides my exact Haplogroup.
    What of your CL23, how far down your list....... for me when my true ancestry started it was in third spot....now it sits in twelfth spot at 11.5
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
    Wife paternal line R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I want members to comment and to opine.

    After all, that’s why we post results and other stuff.

    ... and if we are just a little bit more open minded, and interested in listening (LOL), we might learn a thing or two from each other :)
    I only look at the 10
    and wish I could filter out the others, including the red spots on the map sections

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Carlos you are Spartacus :)



    Sparta Cus

    Shouldn't it be Thraciacus instead?
    i thought you were spartacus

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    i thought you were spartacus
    I’m Messapicus, because:

    “About 470 BC ... great victory of the Messapi ... The greatest massacre of Greeks we've ever known ... (Herodotus)”

    The Greek colonists in Salento were Spartans, but they didn't control the entire area, the Messapi kept them at bay, until one day the Spartans got wiped out ... (read above).

    To find Spartacus you must go to Taranto.

    ... verso il 470 a.C., con una grande vittoria dei Messapi, causa della “più grande strage di Greci di cui si abbia conoscenza”, come la definì Erodoto (VII 170) ...
    https://www.academia.edu/30603195/I_...Giannotta_e_Al

    This satirical video mentions the massacre of the Ancient Greeks in Salento.




    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I only look at the 10
    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    and wish I could filter out the others, including the red spots on the map sections
    I don’t get anything below distance 10.
    Either way, they're still the closest to me.





    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    What of your CL23, how far down your list....... for me when my true ancestry started it was in third spot....now it sits in twelfth spot at 11.5

    CL23 is way down my list.

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    Why isn't Spartacus named Thraciacus ?

    just sayn’

    Iron Age Italy (and Greeks vs Messapi):


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    Many thanks Duarte of all this important DNA information. I am going to start at Caesar level, and I hope for a cheap upgrade later. I owe you a beer (or something else, tea coffee etc)

    So if you are going to visit Finland some day, so we can start our meeting with two local words then. Cheers is Kippis in Finnish and Skål in Swedish (read Skol) Btw, Finland is officially a bilingual country. Welcome


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Thanks for sharing Ivar, nice to see new civilizations like Oesel.
    You're welcome Jovialis. It feels really great, that I was able to give (by chance ) something new for you experts here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
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    (Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)


    1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 - (Click for more info)
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    % match vs all users


    2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2 (Click for more info)
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    99
    % match vs all users


    3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2 (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    4. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 9.106 - CL94 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    5. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 9.529 - I10866 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    6. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 10.09 - I3499 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    7. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    8. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 11.31 - CL23 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    9. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 12.13 - I12209 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    10. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    11. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 12.63 - I12640 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    12. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 12.75 - I12878 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    13. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 13.39 - I3320 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    14. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.4 - scy300 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users


    I have yours repeated below from 5



    What memories. We are still the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivar of Rasa Bol View Post
    Many thanks Duarte of all this important DNA information. I am going to start at Caesar level, and I hope for a cheap upgrade later. I owe you a beer (or something else, tea coffee etc)

    So if you are going to visit Finland some day, so we can start our meeting with two local words then. Cheers is Kippis in Finnish and Skål in Swedish (read Skol) Btw, Finland is officially a bilingual country. Welcome

    Thank you Ivar.
    You are too kind. I am sure that I would love to know your country of beautiful landscapes, high standard of living and a welcoming people. Thanks for tips of words of the local languages. Very useful for a traveler like me. I love to trip, inside and outside of Brazil. I am passionate about history and languages learning. I would definitely love to prove a Finnish beer and learn more about the culture of your beautiful country. I'm glad that what I said was helpful to you. You're always welcome :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

    (Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)


    1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2 (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2 (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    4. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 9.106 - CL94 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    5. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 9.529 - I10866 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    6. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 10.09 - I3499 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    7. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    8. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 11.31 - CL23 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    9. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 12.13 - I12209 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    10. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    11. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 12.63 - I12640 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    12. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 12.75 - I12878 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    13. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 13.39 - I3320 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    14. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.4 - scy300 - (Click for more info)
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users


    I have yours repeated below from 5



    What memories. We are still the same...
    We two are Iberian brothers, dear Carlos. I always pray for the communion of the peoples of the Iberian Peninsula. All Iberians are genetic brothers. I see with concern the outbreak of separatist movements in Catalonia. These movements are meaningless. Spain has always been united in its rich, ancient and wonderful culture. Since the reconquest Iberia has a single and unbreakable heart. Hugs dear friend.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    We two are Iberian brothers, dear Carlos. I always pray for the communion of the peoples of the Iberian Peninsula. All Iberians are genetic brothers. I see with concern the outbreak of separatist movements in Catalonia. These movements are meaningless. Spain has always been united in its rich, ancient and wonderful culture. Since the reconquest Iberia has a single and unbreakable heart. Hugs dear friend.
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    Certainly the environment has changed, evidently the images that will have been seen by t.v. they are very located in certain streets or very specific areas of Barcelona. It is an ethno-linguistic question, identity issues politically led by separatist politics. On the other hand it is a topic that already bores us in the rest of Spain, they are really suffocating themselves.


    And in the meantime there is this:

    48% of Spaniards favor the union between Spain and Portugal
    https://diario16.com/48-los-espanole...pana-portugal/

    Reunification of Mexico with Spain
    https://www.facebook.com/Reunificaci...6960890091474/

    PUERTO RICO AND CUBA WANT TO BECOME A PART OF SPAIN
    https://digitalliberalespana.wordpre...a-ser-espanol/

    Reunification of Puerto Rico with Spain
    https://www.facebook.com/reunificacionpuertorico/

    California reunification with Spain
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/112341529466806/

    (I opened it and the first video they have on the page is horrible. Poor woman)

    Reunification of the Philippines with Spain
    REUNIFICATION MOVEMENT OF AMERICA AND PHILIPPINES WITH SPAIN
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/862785767116904/


    The union between brother peoples is more beautiful than free and fictitious hatred.

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    Here is MyTrueAncestry result (footman):
    Your closest Ancient populations...

    Viking

    Avar



    Viking + Avar (3.393)
    Ostrogoth + Avar (5.218)
    Ostrogoth (7.151)
    Viking (8.325)
    Avar (9.53)

    Your closest genetic modern populations...

    1. Southwest_Finnish (7.341)
    2. Czech (9.308)
    3. East_German (10.03)
    4. Finnish (11.31)
    5. German_Central (11.37)
    6. Polish (11.99)
    7. South_Polish (12.83)
    8. North_Swedish (12.89)

    I wonder, that my closest genetic brothers/sisters today living in
    Southwest Finnland. I think I have to visit Finland.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... Comprehensive:

    ... Razib Khan| re: Rome. paper out in 1 month.

    the results looked like this to me:

    1) no difference between Etruscans and Latins

    2) massive shift toward ‘Eastern’ affinity during the Imperial Period

    3) shift ‘back’ after the Late Antique Period

    Basically, I think it is in line with work which suggests large fractions of non-natives in *cities*. When cities declined this genetic imprint diminished and Medieval cities were repopulated from rural areas ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    If R. K. is right, These could easily be the results of an Ancient Roman.

    You = Ancient Roman :



    If after 10s of 1000s of years, Neanderthal DNA is still inside of us, I say that many Europeans, but especially the Italians, still have strong genetic affinity/similarity (and Vice Versa) with:

    Romulus (first King of Rome ~ 753 BC)
    Mark Antony (great guy ~ 40 BC)
    Vespasian (republican ~ 70 AD )
    ... and so on !





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