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    In Istanbul they thought I was Italian, when I have long hair in Spain they have thought it was from Leon or from there. Several people have thought it was French. In Berlin they looked at me a lot, I was overwhelmed I can seem resulton but I'm not a top model either, I don't know if they are voager people but they looked at me a lot and I even met a young Norwegian, he turned to me, he was a polyglot and he asked me in multitude of languages, I kept silent, he asked me in all unimaginable languages except in Spanish, and then I knew how to speak Spanish perfectly. When I take selfies I become neurotic because from one day to the next I don't recognize myself, I go out different every time, with many looks or at least it is my perception. I imagine what it is to be international.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
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    once I regain my voting rights, I shall thank everyone properly :)

    The Roman Lady is doing the same thing as the Lady from Pompei.
    ... interesting.


    It must be influenced by Egypt when Pharaoh women put on a false beard. I understand that the Latin world was patriarchal unlike the Etruscans who were more liberal. Then these businesswomen and with an initiative the artist subtly put that false beard out with the pen on the chin, a subtle influence of the imported Egyptian symbols. Subliminal publicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
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    once I regain my voting rights, I shall thank everyone properly :)
    The Roman Lady is doing the same thing as the Lady from Pompei.
    ... interesting.

    This was already a modern woman. Think about how advanced Roman culture was in terms of customs. She, in addition to running the house, ran her husband's bakery business.

    Nowadays, in Saudi Arabia, women only acquired the right to drive a car last month and they spend most of their time locked up inside your own houses and can only leave home if they are suitably dressed, ie, wearing a burka that only leaves visible the eyes.

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    In this case the bakery belongs to her, inherited from her parents, the husband has become a consort baker and in the portrait with her subliminal false beard she makes clear who the business is and who is in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Let me guess...he's too "southern" for them?

    He's a member of a Latin tribe. Some of them were a bit more Southern already.

    Big Whoops.

    The facts are what they are people; sane people throw discredited ideas into the rubbish heap.
    Stalinistic-self-denial of the truth; their willful ignorance is a disgrace. Funny, when an outlier is more "northern", like the Armenoi_Crete sample, "It must be an elite", but not when the outlier is too southern. The bias is incredible!

    It is almost certainly true that Bronze-Age Southern Italy was richer in AN/CHG-like admixture, furthered by Mycenaean-like admixture. This individual probably reflected a merger of Italic-Latin, and Bronze-Age Southern Italian-like admixture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Stalinistic-self-denial of the truth; their willful ignorance is a disgrace. Funny, when an outlier is more "northern", like the Armenoi_Crete sample, "It must be an elite", but not when the outlier is too southern. The bias is incredible!

    It is almost certainly true that Bronze-Age Southern Italy was richer in AN/CHG-like admixture, furthered by Mycenaean-like admixture. This individual probably reflected a merger of Italic-Latin, and Bronze-Age Southern Italian-like admixture.
    One thing is certain, R850 of Latin Tribe Ardea proves that Southern Italian-like people existed in Italy since at least the Iron age/Republican period. They were influential in the re-settlement of Italy; even in the Lazio area. And they have consistently existed on into the present day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    One thing is certain, R850 of Latin Tribe Ardea proves that Southern Italian-like people existed in Italy since at least the Iron age/Republican period. They were influential in the re-settlement of Italy; even in the Lazio area. And they have consistently existed on into the present day.
    Yes but before this his line has recently been stated as western black sea area, although same line as the 2 neolithic T samples, it is a earlier split from this bulgarian branch......btw, the 2 x T neolithic bulgarian samples are more closer to the 3 x neolithic german samples, even though they are all from the same branch, including R850
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
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    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Yes but before this his line has recently been stated as western black sea area, although same line as the 2 neolithic T samples, it is a earlier split from this bulgarian branch......btw, the 2 x T neolithic bulgarian samples are more closer to the 3 x neolithic german samples, even though they are all from the same branch, including R850
    Now they have new Locations to add in the clades.
    According to the maps, of the 3 y T samples: 1 is close to the Center Italians, and the other 2 to the South Italians.




    R120:
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    In another thread the discussions were a bit heated when discussing the origin of the Etruscans based on the supposed migration route of the paternal line J2 (Proto-Illyrians, Dalmatians/Illyrians, Etruscans, Illyrians). I know the MTA does an autosomal analysis to define the matches with ancient peoples and I also know that my paternal lineage is 100% Gallo-Iberian (R-DF27). As I have autosomal MTA matches with all the above mentioned ancient peoples, I decided to post here just out of curiosity and also to stay out of this war that is not mine, LOL.








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    @Duarte, nice Etruscan result :)

    Heated Debate.

    “De mortuis nil nisi bonum”

    ... I speak only in Latin now LOL

    They were people before they were samples, we often forget that when we debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Duarte, nice Etruscan result :)

    Heated Debate.

    “De mortuis nil nisi bonum”

    ... I speak only in Latin now LOL

    They were people before they were samples, we often forget that when we debate.
    Good morning dear friend Salento. Now you can and should speak Latin LOL.

    It is true. They were people like us. Identification with numbers makes life easier for scientists, but it brings a tone of impersonality that forgets that they was human beings who lived and dreamed with a better world and better life, as we all dream. I'm glad your cousin R850 now has a name and a face. He is now the handsome young boy named Carusu di Ardea.


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    And this sepulchral silence?

    The destiny of men is sometimes inexorable, a destiny that marks life and beyond death, perhaps eternity without knowing what caprices or laws it serves. Young Carusu will continue to smile at people wherever he is because he was the only thing he had because those who rejected him in his day for being different and continue to reject him thousands of years later were neither nor happier than he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    It’s also because most Iron Age samples found are R1b, only two aren’t: R850 (T-L208) and R474 (J-M12).

    https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...Antonio_SM.pdf

    Chances are that T-L208 and others T lines entered Italy with the R1bs, and some even before that. It could have also come with the Mycenaeans, the Greeks, and later with the Lombards, ...

    Many are unfamiliar with y T ‘cause of its low % ratio, and when discovered people often act surprise, even though the Parent line of T-L208 was found in a 7000 burial in Karsdorf (DE).

    y T is rare but widespread, and it has Europeans, Asian, MENA, ... lines, but many people picture only one line, and when found some people assume, others freak out instead, lol :)



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    What a surreal moment in the other thread, my box hurts laughing so much. Thank you! It had been a long time since I laughed so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    The tree branch you supplied was changed this morning check the site
    I took that screenshot yesterday, thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Same God :)

    Same Setting - 590-670 AD:




    MTA & Q-Matching with I3313 Illyrian/ Dalmatian Bronze Age / 1200 BC



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    sample I3313 is from the Jazinka caves on the island of Krk, which is just south of istria......the island was ruled by the Liburnians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    What a surreal moment in the other thread, my box hurts laughing so much. Thank you! It had been a long time since I laughed so much.
    Sometimes 2 contradictory views are both true at the same time.

    if I say to you:

    ”I’m learning Spanish :) ”

    and you say:

    ”Whatever you're learning, it’s called Castilian !!!”

    Most Spanish speakers in the World speak in some form of Castilian, but we all call it Spanish.

    we are both right at the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Sometimes 2 contradictory views can both be true at the same time.

    if I say to you:

    ”I’m learning Spanish :) ”

    and you say:

    ”Whatever you're learning, it’s called Castilian !!!”

    Most Spanish speakers in the World speak in some form of Castilian, but we all call it Spanish.

    we are both right at the same time
    On one occasion I was smoking at night on the balcony of my hotel room at that time someone spoke to me in English, I turned my head and was my room neighbor, I'm Spanish, I replied, he must have thought that being in a Hotel I was also a tourist. He told me he was from Latina, I don't look at the boys or like them but he had a sculptural body like those ancient statues, and it wasn't especially from Gym, it was natural. So he told me he was studying Spanish, he didn't say Spanish. I had doubts with the Spanish and he told me that if I could help him solve a doubt, so I jumped the balcony and we were talking in Spanish about Spanish, it was very late and the neighbors next to the room pounded the wall, people really They don't care about culture, they just think about sleeping. I imagine he had never imagined that it was an Etruscan who was teaching him Spanish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
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    sample I3313 is from the Jazinka caves on the island of Krk, which is just south of istria......the island was ruled by the Liburnians
    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Same ...


    When I posted my I3313 match, I did it for a hypothetical association with the Messapi, but now the same sample is paraded around in association with the Etruscans.

    I don’t know ...

    (I also have two more Illyrians matching samples)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post


    And this sepulchral silence?

    The destiny of men is sometimes inexorable, a destiny that marks life and beyond death, perhaps eternity without knowing what caprices or laws it serves. Young Carusu will continue to smile at people wherever he is because he was the only thing he had because those who rejected him in his day for being different and continue to reject him thousands of years later were neither nor happier than he was.
    I assure you that some of young Caruso's descendants could buy the networth of all those losers combined five times over. Who has the last laugh?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I assure you that some of young Caruso's descendants could buy the networth of all those losers combined five times over. Who has the last laugh?
    Carusu please.


    No woman. Laughter was due to the situation of several crossed conversations, yours with torzio I think I remember and on the other hand Salento with the "precious" sword after torzio again that if I could read in Italian, then I ask if there was news about the "precious sword "after torzio he can't open the file on the phone because it wasn't on the PC.


    The scene was great, I couldn't stop laughing.


    It's about that, not! poor Carusu, please no, never. Rich are two or three compared to the world population. No, not at all, I would never laugh at poverty or physical defects e.t.c.

    God free me

    In any case, the poetic writing has nothing to do with its offspring but with its own individual and destiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    When I posted my I3313 match, I did it for a hypothetical association with the Messapi, but now the same sample is paraded around in association with the Etruscans.

    I don’t know ...

    (I also have two more Illyrians matching samples)
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    Troy VI (c. 1750-1300 BCE) is the period most visible today at the site and is the most likely candidate for the besieged city of Homer’s Trojan War.

    https://www.ancient.eu/troy/

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