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my wife's new data
1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 6.716 - SZ45 - (Click for more info)
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2. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.715 - I4332 - (Click for more info)
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3. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.715 - I5769 - (Click for more info)
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4. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 8.97 - DA199 - (Click for more info)
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5. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 10.04 - SZ18 - (Click for more info)
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Fathers mtdna T2b17
Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
Sons mtdna K1a4o
Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
Wife paternal line R1a-Z282
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Where can I find them?
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I looked at this graphic again. The Proto-Villanovan is the connection for me. All of my highest matches are on there circling that one Bronze Age sample.R1 Villanova Bronze Age Top 20 Ancient Matches:
R437 Latin Roman Republic Top 20 Ancient Matches:
1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.568 - SZ43 - (Click for more info)
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2. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 4.975 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info)
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3. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 6.017 - R60 - (Click for more info)
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4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.279 - R1 - (Click for more info)
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5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.029 - SZ36 - (Click for more info)
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6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.294 - R107 - (Click for more info)
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Amazing, really. These samples, Scythian, Illyrian, the "Roman" like Szolad samples, the late Piemontese sample from around Collegno, all share ancestry from the sample, or all related to it, and they're all my highest matches.
Non si fa il proprio dovere perchè qualcuno ci dica grazie, lo si fa per principio, per se stessi, per la propria dignità. Oriana Fallaci
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Proto-Villanovan, Villanovan is another thing despite the name.
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7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (4.463)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.479)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.576)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.617)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (8.192)
13. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556
Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) (3.909)
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (4.158)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) (4.435)
Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) (5.423)
Roman Era Girona (80 AD) (5.838)
45. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 14.69 - R1287
Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) (7.069)
Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.414)
Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) (7.529)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (7.939)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (8.405)
100. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.85 - R111
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (7.052)
Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) (8.058)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) (8.405)
Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) (8.707)
Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) (9.505)
77. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457
Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) (8.919)
Carthaginian Roman (275 BC) (9.024)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (9.505)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (9.525)
Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) (9.777)
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1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (3.976)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.576)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.682)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.677)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (7.164)
Finally who was the winner?
Jackie's Revenge
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Between Iberians and Italics, I believe they were all saved, for the happiness of the modern world. In my specific case, among some matches with Iberians, I put all my matches with the Italics and I think that the Iberians won, led by the Roman soldier FN_2. All my honors to the brave and unbreakable Italic warriors:Carlos Papers
7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (4.463)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.479)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.576)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.617)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (8.192)
13. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556
Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) (3.909)
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (4.158)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) (4.435)
Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) (5.423)
Roman Era Girona (80 AD) (5.838)
45. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 14.69 - R1287
Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) (7.069)
Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.414)
Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) (7.529)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (7.939)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (8.405)
100. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.85 - R111
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (7.052)
Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) (8.058)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) (8.405)
Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) (8.707)
Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) (9.505)
77. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457
Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) (8.919)
Carthaginian Roman (275 BC) (9.024)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (9.505)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (9.525)
Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) (9.777)
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1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (3.976)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.576)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.682)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.677)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (7.164)
Finally who was the winner?
Jackie's Revenge
1. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 6.899 - FN_2 (Click for more info)
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2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.629 - CL94 - (Click for more info)
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3. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 9.714 - R474 - (Click for more info)
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4. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 9.859 - I12034 - (Click for more info)
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5. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 9.948 - I3585 - (Click for more info)
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6. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.04 - I12514 - (Click for more info) Top 97 % match vs all users
7. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.34 - I12516 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users
11. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 10.87 - R63 - (Click for more info)
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12. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 11.0 - I4331 - (Click for more info)
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13. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 11.05 - DA198 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users
17. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.55 - I3313 - (Click for more info) Top 95 % match vs all users
18. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 11.64 - I10866 - (Click for more info) Top 97 % match vs all users
24. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.34 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) Top 96 % match vs all users
25. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.39 - I4332 - (Click for more info) Top 96 % match vs all users
29. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 12.69 - R1287 - (Click for more info) Top 97 % match vs all users
31. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 12.87 - R473 - (Click for more info) Top 98 % match vs all users
33. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 13.03 - I3499 - (Click for more info) Top 98 % match vs all users
34. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 13.12 - R1015 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users
44. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 14.38 - CL47b (Click for more info) Top 67 % match vs all users
45. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.49 - CL57 - (Click for more info) Top 86 % match vs all users
48. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 14.82 - CL23 - (Click for more info)
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52. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 15.3 - R1021 - (Click for more info)
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53. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 15.37 - R1 - (Click for more info) Top 91 % match vs all users
63. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.59 - SZ45 - (Click for more info) Top 68 % match vs all users
67. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.93 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) Top 88 % match vs all users
69. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 16.95 - R116 - (Click for more info) Top 89 % match vs all users
71. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.24 - CL47 - ? (Click for more info) Top 47 % match vs all users
74. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 17.47 - R435 - (Click for more info)
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75. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 17.54 - R1289 - (Click for more info) Top 98 % match vs all users
79. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.8 - R1283 - (Click for more info) Top 95 % match vs all users
82. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 17.98 - R851 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users
83. Latin Tribe Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.3 - R1016 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users
84. North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 18.48 - CL63 - ? (Click for more info) Top 42 % match vs all users
91. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 18.85 - CL102 - ? (Click for more info) Top 40 % match vs all users
99. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.29 - SZ18 - (Click for more info) Top 44 % match vs all users
“Às vezes ouço passar o vento; e só de ouvir o vento passar, vale a pena ter nascido”.
Fernando Pessoa
Y-DNA haplogroup: R1b > M269 > L23 > L51 > P310 > L151 > P312 > DF27 > ZZ12 > ZZ19 > Z31644 > BY2285 > BY25634 > FGC35133
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Thank-you, cousin. :)
Two of the first three ancient remains of which I am most related according to these calculators, also had the same mtDNA haplogroup with my father. This is an extraordinary coincidence!
And vim_2 is only at 300km from my current location.This coincidence makes me think that this... fun game may have a basis in reality.
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Let's get on the ground, it is important to know what you are talking about. Observe all the details from the names that have been given to the streets to the maritime traffic as a way of having a broader vision through the past-present time and vice versa.
Watching ... Processing
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Sure thing, dear cousin ;)
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Even now, I still don't get anything under 10
That's also one more reason (of many) why at AncestryDNA Salento is in Limbo.
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that is strangeEven now, I still don't get anything under 10
That's also one more reason (of many) why at AncestryDNA Salento is in Limbo.
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i get a big 2 point gap between first and second
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my top 20 differences are minimals.
I’m probably at the edge of South, East, Center-North Ancestries.
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sample R1
R1 listed as belonging to the Proto-VIllanovan culture, dated 930 - 839 calBCE. She has 2nd highest degree of Steppe ancestry in Iron age samples and mtDNA U5a2b.
anyone else got any more info about sample R1
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A Proto-Villanovan female from Martinsicuro in the Abruzzo coast (ca. 890 BC), of mtDNA hg. U5a2b, is the earliest mainland sample available showing foreign (i.e. not exclusively Anatolia_N ± WHG) ancestry:
Martinsicuro is a coastal site located on the border of Le Marche and Abruzzo on central Italy’s Adriatic coast. It is a proto-Villanovan village, situated on a hill above the Tronto river, dating to the late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age (…) finds from the site indicate an affinity with contemporaries in the Balkans, suggesting direct trade contacts and interaction across the Adriatic. In particular, the practice of decorating ceramics with bronze elements was shared between the Nin region in Croatia and Picene region of Italy, including Martinsicuro.
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The sample clusters close to the Early Iron Age sample from Jazinka (ca. 780 BC), from the central Dalmatian onomastic region, on the east Adriatic coast opposite to Abruzzo, possibly related to the south-east Dalmatian onomastic region to the south. However, there is no clear boundary between hydrotoponymic regions for the Bronze Age, and it is quite close to the (possibly Venetic-related) Liburnian onomastic region to the north, so the accounts of Martinsicuro belonging to the Liburni in proto-historical times can probably be extrapolated to the Final Bronze Age.
NOTE. Based on feminine endings in -ona in the few available anthroponyms, Liburnian may have shared similarities with personal names of the Noricum province, which doesn’t seem to be related to the more recent (Celtic- or Germanic-related?) Noric language. On the other hand, anthroponyms are known to show the most recent hydrotoponymic layer of a region, so these personal names might be unrelated to the ancestral language behind place and river names.
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maybe you arrived via ancient Dalmatia...........do you have anything with northern-balkans or hungarian areas ?
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At the moment they are values up to 10 and below 10 practically. And considering that the sample Etrusca R473 has a quality of 82, the gala on 41 and perhaps that of the Visigoth is also not very high because they are quite close results.
After 40-50 generations we begin to have all the same ancestors who lived over 1000 years ago. We become a mixture of all these ancient samples in slightly different proportions ...
What can distinguish us from them are the possible viable mutations that occurred over time.
One by one, Beautiful Viewers! lol!
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Etruscan Necropolis La Mattonara is a bit north of Civitavecchia. The red line on the right is the border between Etruscans and Latins, Sabines.
Where are those xx cM that were inherited from 2000 ... 8000... years ago ?!! loool! ...
Did they hide it ?!
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we show what they give us.Where are those cM that were inherited from 2000 ... 8000... years ago ?!! loool! ...
Did they hide it ?!
You're welcome to do the same thing and show us some of your results.
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How accurate is this stuff? I'm Croatian and most of my matches are Scythian.
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