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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    no change for mine

    any idea on this 2775 bc sample ..................a proto illyrian-thracian ?

    2775 BC - Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol

    Genetic Distance: 14.31

    ..............................

    my closest plot is with R1 sample from Picene/marche lands in Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    @Torzio

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    interesting ....same mtdna marker from neolithic T samples from ancient bulgaria



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star%C...%C8%99_culture
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
    Wife paternal line R1a-Z282

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    The Imputed VCF converted to the AncestryDNA template it’s acceptable, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    The Imputed VCF converted to the AncestryDNA template it’s acceptable, I think.
    I agree with you. I think that imputed DNA.land VCF (the first one data posted as VCF imputed) should be discarded. It is point outside the curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    I agree with you. I think that imputed DNA.land VCF (the first one data posted as VCF imputed) should be discarded. It is point outside the curve.
    I Know, but I get 2 Native Americans :)

    Pacific Northwest Amerindian vs Native American Washington State


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I Know, but I get 2 Native Americans :)

    Pacific Northwest Amerindian vs Native American Washington State
    This is the bright side. I had forgotten that.

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    re-upload :)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    DNA.Land ... curiosity.

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    my dnaland

    West Eurasian 100% South European 62% South/Central European 41%
    Balkan 21%
    Northwest European 25%
    Sardinian 8%
    Ambiguous 5.6%


    in other admixture site...I usually get corsican over sardinian for ancient admixture
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    I can't believe I'm doing this on Thanksgiving morning. At least I'm being hosted and don't have to cook. :)

    Protovillanovian:

    4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.279 - R1 -
    Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
    1. North_Italian (5.281)
    2. Tuscan (8.820)
    3. Spanish_Andalucia (9.947)
    4. Spanish_Murcia (11.02)
    5. Spanish_Valencia (11.12)
    6. Spanish_Extremadura (11.12)
    7. Kosovan (11.37)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.94)


    Kosovans show up in quite a few of these samples. Are Albanians also in the list of populations in K=15?

    10. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 9.723 - NS3b - ?
    Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
    1. Kosovan (7.844)
    2. Bulgarian (11.16)
    3. Romanian (12.12)
    4. Tuscan (12.38)
    5. Bosnian (12.81)
    6. North_Italian (12.87)
    7. Greek (13.91)
    8. Greek_Thessaly (14.64)


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    Illyrians differ a bit in terms of the samples, but Iberians are always way up there.
    16. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.35 - I3313 -
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    1. Spanish_Extremadura (6.749)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (6.887)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (6.957)
    4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.206)
    5. Spanish_Andalucia (7.233)
    6. Spanish_Valencia (7.494)
    7. North_Italian (7.731)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.798)

    32. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.46 - I4331 -
    Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
    1. Portuguese (8.380)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (8.547)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (8.557)
    4. Spanish_Extremadura (9.096)
    5. North_Italian (9.319)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.484)
    7. Spanish_Galicia (9.666)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)


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    34. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.66 - I4332 -
    Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
    1. North_Italian (7.591)
    2. Portuguese (10.32)
    3. Spanish_Galicia (10.33)
    4. Spanish_Extremadura (11.85)
    5. Spanish_Cataluna (11.95)
    6. Spanish_Murcia (12.65)
    7. Tuscan (12.74)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.02)




    I think that's all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Illyrians differ a bit in terms of the samples, but Iberians are always way up there.
    16. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.35 - I3313 -
    Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
    1. Spanish_Extremadura (6.749)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (6.887)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (6.957)
    4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.206)
    5. Spanish_Andalucia (7.233)
    6. Spanish_Valencia (7.494)
    7. North_Italian (7.731)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.798)

    32. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.46 - I4331 -
    Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
    1. Portuguese (8.380)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (8.547)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (8.557)
    4. Spanish_Extremadura (9.096)
    5. North_Italian (9.319)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.484)
    7. Spanish_Galicia (9.666)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)


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    34. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.66 - I4332 -
    Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
    1. North_Italian (7.591)
    2. Portuguese (10.32)
    3. Spanish_Galicia (10.33)
    4. Spanish_Extremadura (11.85)
    5. Spanish_Cataluna (11.95)
    6. Spanish_Murcia (12.65)
    7. Tuscan (12.74)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.02)




    I think that's all of them.
    Thanks , can these figures for Illyrians have something to do with the roman forced dispersal of the the Dalmatian and Pannonian populace after the famous Illyrian revolt ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Thanks , can these figures for Illyrians have something to do with the roman forced dispersal of the the Dalmatian and Pannonian populace after the famous Illyrian revolt ?

    8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75
    - I3313 -

    1. Spanish_Extremadura (6.749)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (6.887)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (6.957)
    4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.206)
    5. Spanish_Andalucia (7.233)
    6. Spanish_Valencia (7.494)
    7. North_Italian (7.731)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.798)

    Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (6.439)
    Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (7.049)
    Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (7.332)
    Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (7.422)
    Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (7.43)

    33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.01 - I4331 -

    1. Portuguese (8.380)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (8.547)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (8.557)
    4. Spanish_Extremadura (9.096)
    5. North_Italian (9.319)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.484)
    7. Spanish_Galicia (9.666)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)

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    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (2.89)

    Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (6.104)
    Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (7.366)
    Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) (7.683)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.879)

    My identical results practically with Angela's. Seeing the similar ones the last samples of Rome appear. and the caliphato that is later but with Spain there is no sample before Rome for these samples.

    If we go to:

    40. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55 - I12514 -

    1. Portuguese (6.531)
    2. Spanish_Galicia (7.016)
    3. Spanish_Extremadura (7.329)
    4. Spanish_Murcia (7.347)
    5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.397)
    6. Spanish_Cataluna (7.926)
    7. North_Italian (10.51)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.52)

    Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) (5.928)
    Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.027)
    Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) (6.684)
    Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.84)
    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (6.853)

    68. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 16.23 - SLC1006 -

    1. Spanish_Galicia (8.676)
    2. Portuguese (9.360)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.64)
    4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.37)
    5. Spanish_Extremadura (11.79)
    6. Spanish_Murcia (11.79)
    7. French (12.16)
    8. North_Italian (13.48)

    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (6.2)

    Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (7.683)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.868)
    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (8.557)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (8.922)

    34. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.06 - R55

    1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.676)
    2. Portuguese (8.073)
    3. Spanish_Murcia (8.462)
    4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.754)
    5. Spanish_Galicia (9.017)
    6. Spanish_Extremadura (9.229)
    7. North_Italian (10.54)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)

    Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (2.89)
    Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (5.747)
    Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) (6.2)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.853)
    Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) (8.048)

    16. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33

    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (5.747)
    Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (6.104)
    Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.714)
    Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (7.295)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.494)

    Here appears the Etruscan

    1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.155)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (7.269)
    3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.528)
    4. Spanish_Valencia (7.691)
    5. Portuguese (8.220)
    6. Spanish_Extremadura (8.433)
    7. Spanish_Andalucia (8.449)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (8.936)


    7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 -

    1. Spanish_Cantabria (8.376)
    2. Spanish_Cataluna (9.761)
    3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.05)
    4. Spanish_Aragon (10.35)
    5. Southwest_French (10.35)
    6. Portuguese (10.55)
    7. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (10.87)
    8. Spanish_Galicia (10.99)

    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (4.463)
    Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.479)
    Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.576)
    Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.617)
    Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (7.295)

    The Etruscan contains most of my main parties or they contain him.


    1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 -


    1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.658)
    2. Southwest_French (8.643)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (9.135)
    4. Spanish_Aragon (9.296)
    5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.648)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (10.15)
    7. Portuguese (10.60)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.90)


    Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (3.976)
    Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.576)
    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.682)
    Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.677)
    Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (7.164)

    2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2

    1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.865)
    2. Spanish_Galicia (6.952)
    3. Portuguese (7.383)
    4. Spanish_Cataluna (7.910)
    5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.300)
    6. Spanish_Extremadura (8.652)
    7. Southwest_French (9.172)
    8. Spanish_Murcia (9.750)


    Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (6.407)
    Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (6.617)
    Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (7.032)
    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (7.311)
    Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (7.667)

    3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2


    1. Spanish_Cantabria (7.572)
    2. Southwest_French (9.243)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.80)
    4. Spanish_Aragon (10.81)
    5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.18)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (11.47)
    7. Spanish_Galicia (11.60)
    8. Portuguese (11.71)

    Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (3.976)
    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.456)
    Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.479)
    Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.407)
    Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.712)


    11. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 11.51 - LM_406_T

    1. Spanish_Galicia (9.823)
    2. Spanish_Cantabria (9.975)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.57)
    4. Portuguese (11.15)
    5. French (11.17)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.38)
    7. Southwest_French (11.80)
    8. Spanish_Extremadura (12.74)

    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (6.673)
    Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (6.677)
    Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (6.712)
    Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (8.262)
    Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (9.331)

    21. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 13.4 - CL47b


    1. French (6.063)
    2. South_Dutch (9.720)
    3. Southwest_English (10.93)
    4. Spanish_Galicia (11.13)
    5. Spanish_Cataluna (11.38)
    6. West_German (11.50)
    7. Welsh (11.84)
    8. Portuguese (12.30)

    Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) (7.384)
    Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (8.216)
    Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (8.866)
    Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) (9.022)
    Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (9.331)

    116. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 -


    Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (5.175)
    Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (6.136)
    Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (7.095)
    Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (7.384)
    Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) (7.844)

    There was an Etruscan diaspora or how is this?

    A round trip or were they like that? ​I have been glazed
















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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post

    8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75
    - I3313 -

    1. Spanish_Extremadura (6.749)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (6.887)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (6.957)
    4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.206)
    5. Spanish_Andalucia (7.233)
    6. Spanish_Valencia (7.494)
    7. North_Italian (7.731)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.798)

    Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (6.439)
    Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (7.049)
    Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (7.332)
    Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (7.422)
    Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (7.43)

    33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.01 - I4331 -

    1. Portuguese (8.380)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (8.547)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (8.557)
    4. Spanish_Extremadura (9.096)
    5. North_Italian (9.319)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.484)
    7. Spanish_Galicia (9.666)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)

    Simiar Samples
    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (2.89)

    Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (6.104)
    Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (7.366)
    Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) (7.683)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.879)

    My identical results practically with Angela's. Seeing the similar ones the last samples of Rome appear. and the caliphato that is later but with Spain there is no sample before Rome for these samples.

    If we go to:

    40. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55 - I12514 -

    1. Portuguese (6.531)
    2. Spanish_Galicia (7.016)
    3. Spanish_Extremadura (7.329)
    4. Spanish_Murcia (7.347)
    5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.397)
    6. Spanish_Cataluna (7.926)
    7. North_Italian (10.51)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.52)

    Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) (5.928)
    Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.027)
    Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) (6.684)
    Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.84)
    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (6.853)

    68. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 16.23 - SLC1006 -

    1. Spanish_Galicia (8.676)
    2. Portuguese (9.360)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.64)
    4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.37)
    5. Spanish_Extremadura (11.79)
    6. Spanish_Murcia (11.79)
    7. French (12.16)
    8. North_Italian (13.48)

    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (6.2)

    Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (7.683)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.868)
    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (8.557)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (8.922)

    34. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.06 - R55

    1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.676)
    2. Portuguese (8.073)
    3. Spanish_Murcia (8.462)
    4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.754)
    5. Spanish_Galicia (9.017)
    6. Spanish_Extremadura (9.229)
    7. North_Italian (10.54)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)

    Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (2.89)
    Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (5.747)
    Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) (6.2)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.853)
    Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) (8.048)

    16. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33

    Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (5.747)
    Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (6.104)
    Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.714)
    Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (7.295)
    Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.494)

    Here appears the Etruscan

    1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.155)
    2. Spanish_Murcia (7.269)
    3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.528)
    4. Spanish_Valencia (7.691)
    5. Portuguese (8.220)
    6. Spanish_Extremadura (8.433)
    7. Spanish_Andalucia (8.449)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (8.936)


    7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 -

    1. Spanish_Cantabria (8.376)
    2. Spanish_Cataluna (9.761)
    3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.05)
    4. Spanish_Aragon (10.35)
    5. Southwest_French (10.35)
    6. Portuguese (10.55)
    7. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (10.87)
    8. Spanish_Galicia (10.99)

    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (4.463)
    Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.479)
    Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.576)
    Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.617)
    Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (7.295)

    The Etruscan contains most of my main parties or they contain him.


    1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 -


    1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.658)
    2. Southwest_French (8.643)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (9.135)
    4. Spanish_Aragon (9.296)
    5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.648)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (10.15)
    7. Portuguese (10.60)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.90)


    Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (3.976)
    Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.576)
    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.682)
    Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.677)
    Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (7.164)

    2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2

    1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.865)
    2. Spanish_Galicia (6.952)
    3. Portuguese (7.383)
    4. Spanish_Cataluna (7.910)
    5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.300)
    6. Spanish_Extremadura (8.652)
    7. Southwest_French (9.172)
    8. Spanish_Murcia (9.750)


    Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (6.407)
    Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (6.617)
    Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (7.032)
    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (7.311)
    Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (7.667)

    3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2


    1. Spanish_Cantabria (7.572)
    2. Southwest_French (9.243)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.80)
    4. Spanish_Aragon (10.81)
    5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.18)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (11.47)
    7. Spanish_Galicia (11.60)
    8. Portuguese (11.71)

    Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (3.976)
    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.456)
    Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.479)
    Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.407)
    Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.712)


    11. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 11.51 - LM_406_T

    1. Spanish_Galicia (9.823)
    2. Spanish_Cantabria (9.975)
    3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.57)
    4. Portuguese (11.15)
    5. French (11.17)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.38)
    7. Southwest_French (11.80)
    8. Spanish_Extremadura (12.74)

    Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (6.673)
    Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (6.677)
    Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (6.712)
    Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (8.262)
    Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (9.331)

    21. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 13.4 - CL47b


    1. French (6.063)
    2. South_Dutch (9.720)
    3. Southwest_English (10.93)
    4. Spanish_Galicia (11.13)
    5. Spanish_Cataluna (11.38)
    6. West_German (11.50)
    7. Welsh (11.84)
    8. Portuguese (12.30)

    Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) (7.384)
    Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (8.216)
    Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (8.866)
    Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) (9.022)
    Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (9.331)

    116. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 -


    Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (5.175)
    Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (6.136)
    Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (7.095)
    Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (7.384)
    Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) (7.844)

    There was an Etruscan diaspora or how is this?

    A round trip or were they like that? ​I have been glazed















    this is mine ......sample I3133 and R1 ( proto-villanovan ) are my main match in mytrueancestry

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post626037

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    this is mine ......sample I3133 and R1 ( proto-villanovan ) are my main match in mytrueancestry

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post626037
    It is mine before. It was at Jackie's birth, Jackie's revenge.
    Besides, I am more worried about another issue, it is yours to wear the medals, what does it matter.

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    Eurasian, what is that? They are really going to drive me crazy, how the hell am I going to be Eurasian 96% if I'm Spanish.



    1.6% Ambiuo. It must be something like multipurpose that the same goes for a broken than for a rip. Do not be about those Neardhental or Dinosivasian beings of those.

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    1 members found this post helpful.
    Here mine:

    Roman + Thracian (5.896)
    Roman (6.059)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (6.729)
    Gallo-Roman (10.96)
    Thracian (11.13)


    1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.059 - SZ36 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.538 - SZ43 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    3. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 7.08 - CL36 - ?
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 8.604 - R1 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 8.984 - R60 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    6. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 9.183 - R970 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    7. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.227 - BSS31
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    8. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.235 - SZ32 - ?
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    9. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.03 - NS3b - ?
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    10. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 10.44 - R107 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    11. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.96 - SZ28 - ?
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users


    12. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 11.02 - R1290 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    13. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 11.13 - I4332 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    14. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 11.13 - I5769 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 11.59 - NS3c - ?
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    16. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 11.73 - scy192 -
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users


    17. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 11.76 - R1540
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    18. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 11.83 - R835 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    19. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 12.0 - scy197b - ?
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    20. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 12.61 - I2515
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    21. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 12.79 - I2514
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    22. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 12.79 - I12515 -
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    23. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 12.82 - SZ45 -
    Top
    89
    % match vs all users


    24. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 12.96 - I3313 -
    Top
    93
    % match vs all users


    25. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 13.01 - OBS137 - ?
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    26. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 13.29 - CL121 -
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    27. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.58 - R54 -
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users


    28. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 13.63 - R136 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    29. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.72 - I7424 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    30. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 13.76 - I3981 -
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    31. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 13.9 - I4331 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    32. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 13.92 - I3576 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    33. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.04 - I2647
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users


    34. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 14.06 - R973 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    35. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 14.16 - R117 -
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    36. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 14.17 - R57 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    37. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 14.17 - I12031 -
    Top
    88
    % match vs all users


    38. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 14.22 - SZ40 - ?
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    39. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.23 - CL94 -
    Top
    91
    % match vs all users


    40. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.41 - R55 -
    Top
    92
    % match vs all users


    41. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.41 - I12514 -
    Top
    93
    % match vs all users


    42. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 14.44 - I7425 -
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    43. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.52 - I12647 -
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    44. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.56 - I3575 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    45. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 14.58 - SZ18 -
    Top
    78
    % match vs all users


    46. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 14.88 - I3983 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    47. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.9 - I3582 -
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    48. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 14.9 - R118 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    49. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 15.02 - R32 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    50. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 15.11 - SI-41 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    51. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 15.12 - I2649
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    52. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 15.24 - R1283 -
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users


    53. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 15.41 - SZ19 -
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    54. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 15.46 - CL57 -
    Top
    82
    % match vs all users


    55. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 15.52 - LSD021 - ?
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    56. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.53 - I7498 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    57. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 15.72 - R56 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    58. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 15.72 - R47 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    59. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 15.78 - DA199 -
    Top
    75
    % match vs all users


    60. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 15.81 - R436 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    Protovillanovia Martinsicuro

    930 BC

    R1



    mtDNA: U5a2b
    Total cM=28.75
    Largest segment=11.15 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 94) - Your raw DNA is
    11
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 7

    8.6 cM










    Chr. 12

    8.98 cM










    Chr. 15

    11.15 cM









    Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto

    500 AD

    R32



    mtDNA: H2a1Y-DNA: I-CTS616
    Total cM=14.49
    Largest segment=10.93 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 42) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

    Chr. 2

    3.55 cM










    Chr. 5

    10.93 cM









    Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi

    500 AD

    R107



    mtDNA: T2hY-DNA: E-V13
    Total cM=7.98
    Largest segment=7.98 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 69) - Your raw DNA is
    22
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 6

    7.98 cM









    Hellenic Roman Marcellino

    400 AD

    R136



    mtDNA: T2d2Y-DNA: J-L70
    Total cM=7.84
    Largest segment=7.84 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 76) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

    Chr. 20

    7.84 cM









    Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy

    1110 AD

    R64



    mtDNA: HV0aY-DNA: G-Z6800
    Total cM=13.4
    Largest segment=6.77 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 78) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

    Chr. 2

    6.77 cM










    Chr. 6

    6.63 cM









    Central Roman San Ercolano

    100 AD

    R117



    mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: J-M410
    Total cM=6.21
    Largest segment=6.21 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 54) - Your raw DNA is
    28
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 6

    6.21 cM









    Illyrian / Dalmatian

    1600 BC

    I4331



    mtDNA: I1a1Y-DNA: J2b2a
    Total cM=6.14
    Largest segment=6.14 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is
    14
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 15

    6.14 cM









    Medieval Iberian

    670 AD

    CL23



    mtDNA: HV1a1aY-DNA: T1a
    Total cM=9.48
    Largest segment=5.83 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is
    49
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 1

    9.48 cM













    Imperial Rome Marche CN

    165 AD

    R835



    mtDNA: H2a5Y-DNA: J-P58
    Total cM=4.81
    Largest segment=4.81 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 37) - Your raw DNA is
    15
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 3

    4.81 cM









    Iberian / Piedmont

    670 AD

    CL94



    mtDNA: K1c1Y-DNA: R1b
    Total cM=3.13
    Largest segment=3.13 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
    26
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 22

    3.13 cM









    Scythian Southern Moldova

    270 BC

    scy192



    mtDNA: H8c
    Total cM=3.13
    Largest segment=3.13 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is
    4
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 18

    3.13 cM









    Thuringii Tribe

    420 AD

    AED_1108



    mtDNA: U4 ?
    Total cM=2.43
    Largest segment=2.43 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 12) - Your raw DNA is
    54
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 6

    2.43 cM









    Central Roman / Mixed

    590 AD

    SZ19



    mtDNA: HV9c
    Total cM=2.18
    Largest segment=2.18 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
    27
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 6

    2.18 cM









    Scythian Moldova

    290 BC

    scy311



    mtDNA: T2b
    Total cM=2.07
    Largest segment=2.07 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 23) - Your raw DNA is
    45
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 6

    2.07 cM









    Medieval Tyrolian

    670 AD

    CL53



    mtDNA: H1c4Y-DNA: R1b
    Total cM=2.04
    Largest segment=2.04 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 14) - Your raw DNA is
    64
    % closer than other matching users


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    2.04 cM









    Central Roman

    670 AD

    CL36



    mtDNA: X2b ?
    Total cM=1.82
    Largest segment=1.82 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 15) - Your raw DNA is
    3
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 1

    1.82 cM









    North Central Lombard

    670 AD

    CL63



    mtDNA: H ?
    Total cM=1.78
    Largest segment=1.78 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
    20
    % closer than other matching users


    Chr. 2

    1.78 cM








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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    It is mine before. It was at Jackie's birth, Jackie's revenge.
    Besides, I am more worried about another issue, it is yours to wear the medals, what does it matter.

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    Eurasian, what is that? They are really going to drive me crazy, how the hell am I going to be Eurasian 96% if I'm Spanish.



    1.6% Ambiuo. It must be something like multipurpose that the same goes for a broken than for a rip. Do not be about those Neardhental or Dinosivasian beings of those.
    eurasian is central asia ...kazaks people, uzbek people....basically east of the caspian sea and before china

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    eurasian is central asia ...kazaks people, uzbek people....basically east of the caspian sea and before china



    Tengo que tener un mapa delante comprende a un posible político. ¿A esta zona se refiere usted aprox.?
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    Dna Land is with modern populations?

    I will review the peoples of the sea, it is such a dreamlike and poetic name, and also speaks of them in the plural.



    And this sepulchral silence?


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    My new hidden identity.


    I think it's great with the VCF file. He treats me like I'm someone mixed relatively soon. The distances are great but it seems great to support my doctoral thesis.



    Now we are going to study my first 10 examples of my hidden identity, which is how I titled my doctoral thesis.












    Segments Mape



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    Tengo que tener un mapa delante comprende a un posible político. ¿A esta zona se refiere usted aprox.?
    no exacting ............up to the west side of the caspian sea is always referred to as European

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    2 Iron Age maps in my Ancestral Timelapse:

    y T R850 and his Roman children









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    1st kit sample location
    2nd kit sample location
    Both kits share same location



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    Hidden Identity versus Revealed Identity








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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    1st kit sample location
    2nd kit sample location
    Both kits share same location



    Comparison between kits
    Hidden Identity versus Revealed Identity




    just in case, ... my previous Iron Age post refers to Normal raw-data,
    (if I use the Imputed raw-data I will say so)

    Imputed vs Combined:



    Ancestry vs Combined:

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