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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    best to try MLDP K23b


    mine below

    MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Early_Farmers 29.06
    2 Caucasian 27.92
    3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 25.54
    4 South_Central_Asian 5.01
    5 Near_East 4.20
    6 North_African 4.12
    7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.19


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_North_ @ 1.616997 ...............gap of 9.0 points , never seen this anywhere
    2 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 10.678257
    3 Kosovar_ @ 10.711663
    4 German-Volga_ @ 10.766364
    5 Italian_Bergamo_ @ 11.002331
    6 Greek_Northwest_ @ 11.166147
    7 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 11.619445
    8 French_ @ 12.120668
    9 Bulgarian_ @ 13.362151


    .................................................. ...........

    I see you used ........

    MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4 .............................mine below

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 30.99
    2 Caucasian 27.40
    3 Steppe 18.76
    4 NorthEastEuropean 18.63
    5 NorthAfrican 1.75
    6 NearEast 1.63


    Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
    16 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Friul @ 5.779080
    2 Provencal_Provence @ 5.918087

    Here, my MDLP K23b Oracle results:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 41.78
    2 European_Early_Farmers 23.05
    3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 21.85
    4 South_Central_Asian 4.53
    5 Near_East 3.53
    6 Ancestral_Altaic 1.9
    7 North_African 1.54
    8 Melano_Polynesian 0.86
    9 East_Siberian 0.73
    10 South_East_Asian 0.24


    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Central_Greek ( ) 4.11
    2 Greek_Athens ( ) 5.32
    3 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 5.94
    4 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 6.18
    5 Greek ( ) 6.22
    6 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 6.79
    7 Italian_South ( ) 7.05
    8 Romanian_Jew ( ) 7.66
    9 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 7.89
    10 Gagauz ( ) 8.07
    11 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 8.08
    12 Sicilian_Center ( ) 8.32
    13 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 8.36
    14 Ashkenazi ( ) 8.66
    15 Kosovar ( ) 9.07
    16 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 9.1
    17 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 9.23
    18 Greek_Islands ( ) 9.37
    19 Cretan ( ) 9.7
    20 Greek_Northwest ( ) 9.84


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85% Kosovar ( ) + 15% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.28
    2 84.6% Kosovar ( ) + 15.4% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 2.52
    3 84.9% Kosovar ( ) + 15.1% Georgian_Imereti ( ) @ 2.7
    4 84.3% Kosovar ( ) + 15.7% Georgian_Svan ( ) @ 2.82
    5 84.2% Kosovar ( ) + 15.8% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) @ 2.86
    6 80.8% Kosovar ( ) + 19.2% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 2.93
    7 90.6% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 9.4% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.98
    8 90.5% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 9.5% Georgian_Imereti ( ) @ 2.99
    9 90.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 9.7% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 2.99
    10 90% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 10% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) @ 3.05
    11 90.1% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 9.9% Georgian_Svan ( ) @ 3.06
    12 83.7% Kosovar ( ) + 16.3% Georgian ( ) @ 3.12
    13 83.9% Kosovar ( ) + 16.1% Adjara ( ) @ 3.15
    14 89.6% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 10.4% Abkhasian ( ) @ 3.15
    15 89.7% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 10.3% Georgian ( ) @ 3.16
    16 83.6% Kosovar ( ) + 16.4% Abkhasian ( ) @ 3.2
    17 90% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 10% Adjara ( ) @ 3.29
    18 88% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 12% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 3.36
    19 70.1% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 29.9% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 3.61
    20 89% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 11% Kakheti ( ) @ 3.67

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    All Outliers are located at the bottom of a 200 samples list,

    I guess it’s another way of saying:

    There’s No Chance in Hell that you’re related to them”!

    or, am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    All Outliers are located at the bottom of a 200 samples list,

    I guess it’s another way of saying:

    There’s No Chance in Hell that you’re related to them”!

    or, am I missing something?
    It might mean you line passed through the same lands as these samples but not related
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
    Wife paternal line R1a-Z282

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    I tend to deprecate the K23b, mostly because I cannot see how I could have that large amount of Ancestral Altaic, whatever that is, but then if a northern Italian can get a 3.19, maybe my 4.25 isn't so irrational. Because everything else checks out.
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 35.97
    2 European_Early_Farmers 27.64
    3 Caucasian 21.59
    4 South_Central_Asian 5.87
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.25
    6 North_African 3.05


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 English_ @ 2.520670
    2 Belgian_ @ 3.189655
    3 Irish_ @ 3.521570
    4 Frisian_ @ 3.740649
    5 North_European_ @ 3.763905
    6 South_German_ @ 4.837700
    7 Dutch_ @ 4.853911
    8 German-Volga_ @ 4.944228
    9 English_Kent_GBR_ @ 4.947083
    10 CEU_ @ 5.183545
    11 English_Cornwall_GBR_ @ 5.436276
    12 Welsh_ @ 5.771932
    13 British_ @ 6.015256
    14 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 6.884786
    15 Norwegian_East_ @ 7.634028
    16 Orcadian_ @ 7.697372
    17 Norwegian_West_ @ 8.406718
    18 Icelandic_ @ 8.414221
    19 North_German_ @ 8.852917
    20 Dane_ @ 8.975033

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German-Volga_ +50% North_European_ @ 2.036010


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish_ +25% Russian_North_ +25% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.491629


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Irish_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.491629
    2 Dutch_ + Dutch_ + North_German_ + Portugese_ @ 1.505818
    3 Dane_ + Dutch_ + Dutch_ + Portugese_ @ 1.535320
    4 Dutch_ + Dutch_ + Portugese_ + Swede_ @ 1.568010
    5 Frisian_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.585438
    6 English_Cornwall_GBR_ + Irish_ + Kashub_ + Portugese_ @ 1.607059
    7 Italian_North_ + North_European_ + North_European_ + Norwegian_East_ @ 1.612856
    8 Frisian_ + Irish_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.635453
    9 Frisian_ + German_ + Irish_ + Portugese_ @ 1.638880
    10 English_ + Italian_North_ + North_European_ + Norwegian_East_ @ 1.639687
    11 Dutch_ + Frisian_ + Portugese_ + Swede_Saami_ @ 1.653451
    12 Irish_ + Italian_North_ + North_European_ + Norwegian_East_ @ 1.655633
    13 English_Cornwall_GBR_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.668169
    14 Irish_ + Irish_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.683186
    15 German_ + Irish_ + Irish_ + Portugese_ @ 1.690922
    16 English_Cornwall_GBR_ + Italian_North_ + Norwegian_East_ + Norwegian_East_ @ 1.691695
    17 Irish_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 1.700476
    18 Dutch_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 1.701872
    19 Irish_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Andalucia_IBS_ @ 1.710152
    20 Dutch_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS_ @ 1.710274

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    199. Eurasian Steppes Sintashta (2050 BC) ..... 14.23 - Rise386 -
    Top 85% match vs all users

    Outlier but a new one to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    Mine :)

    Neolithic Age




    66. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 16.81 - I3499 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    Early Bronze Age




    67. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.03 - I4331 -
    Top
    89
    % match vs all users


    82. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 18.38 - I4332 -
    Top
    88
    % match vs all users


    Late Bronze Age




    1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.999 - R1 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    11. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.75 - I3313 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    Iron Age




    33. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.2 - scy300 -
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    37. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 14.45 - scy192 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    40. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.65 - scy197b - ?
    Top
    93
    % match vs all users


    78. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 17.94 - scy305 -
    Top
    92
    % match vs all users


    81. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 18.26 - R850 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    96. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 19.67 - R437 -
    Top
    92
    % match vs all users


    Roman Age




    7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 9.626 - R107 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    12. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 11.92 - R1540
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    20. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.76 - R117 -
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users


    21. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 12.92 - R35 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    28. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 13.74 - R114 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    29. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 13.82 - I3981 -
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    30. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.83 - R835 -
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users


    35. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 14.34 - R32 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    41. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.74 - R51 -
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    42. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.85 - I3582 -
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    Dark Ages




    2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.512 - SZ43 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.298 - SZ36 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 8.822 - CL36 - ?
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    8. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 9.685 - NS3b - ?
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 10.99 - CL121 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    10. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.36 - SZ28 - ?
    Top
    97
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    15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 12.26 - NS3c - ?
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    97
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    18. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 12.69 - CL23 -
    Top
    97
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    19. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.75 - SZ32 - ?
    Top
    96
    % match vs all users


    34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.23 - I3575 -
    Top
    98
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    Medieval Age




    5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 8.78 - R60 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    13. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 12.05 - R64 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.06 - R59 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    16. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.3 - R1290 -
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    22. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 13.01 - BSS31
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    23. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 13.34 - I2515
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    24. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 13.43 - I12515 -
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    25. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.44 - R57 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    26. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.68 - R52 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    27. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 13.7 - I2514
    Top
    94
    % match vs all users


    Early Modern Period




    4. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 7.644 - I7424 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users


    17. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.36 - R970 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users


    31. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.92 - I7425 -
    Top
    95
    % match vs all users


    46. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.3 - OBS137 - ?
    Top
    89
    % match vs all users


    69. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.28 - R973 -
    Top
    93
    % match vs all users


    74. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.73 - R969 -
    Top
    92
    % match vs all users

    Thanks for sharing!

    Very interesting, more Italians, showing a relatively stronger affinity specifically for the Latins R437 and R850 in the Iron Age.

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