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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Yes, I guess they liked the climate. :) The one from the Roman Villa in Tarragona is intriguing. I like Tarragona, nice city, and nice amphitheater, too. I like Catalonia as a whole a lot, feel very "at home" there.





    Ah, wait, two other villa ones from the south as well. So, settlers probably, not just merchants or whatever.
    ... we should all get our own “Villa” / “Domus Aurea”

    some of these ancient samples had more $$$ and a quasi better standard of living than we do :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... we should all get our own “Villa” / “Domus Aurea”

    some of these ancient samples had more $$$ and a quasi better standard of living than we do :)
    I think Nero's "Golden House" was probably beyond the means of our distant relatives. :)

    However, going by the virtual reconstruction of this Roman villa in Spain, I'd be happy to live there...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I'm starting to find that these values are wrong. For example, R1548 is supposed to be my number 1 on MTA, but it is far from it. Currently R973 is my number on the Dodecad K12b version I am compiling on mlukas's site.

    Northern Italians are actually closer to most Latins and Etruscans samples, than Spaniards:

    Example:

    Distance to: IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    2.98306889 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    5.54009928 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    6.03394564 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    6.29099356 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    8.21318452 North_Italian
    8.35141305 Baleares
    8.99323635 IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    10.23018573 N_Italian
    11.22772016 Galicia
    11.69795281 Spaniards
    12.46485459 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    12.50926457 Extremadura
    12.55556052 Castilla_Y_Leon
    12.62493168 Andalucia
    12.85807528 Murcia
    12.91240102 Cataluna
    13.51998891 Cantabria
    13.52852172 Valencia
    13.65238807 Spanish
    13.82596109 Portuguese
    14.50117581 Castilla_La_Mancha
    14.70424769 Aragon
    15.78121351 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    15.92883863 TSI30
    16.54642257 Canarias

    Distance to: IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    3.27873451 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    5.78160877 North_Italian
    5.95183165 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    6.29099356 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    6.78988218 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    8.38279786 N_Italian
    8.87318996 Baleares
    10.23676218 IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    10.98056465 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    11.14162017 Galicia
    12.35530251 Murcia
    12.82465984 Extremadura
    13.07071153 Spaniards
    13.12059831 TSI30
    13.36231642 Andalucia
    13.40997763 Castilla_Y_Leon
    13.81376849 Portuguese
    14.28975507 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    14.40643953 Cataluna
    14.67480494 Spanish
    15.05738689 Tuscan
    15.22069315 Cantabria
    15.23212067 Castilla_La_Mancha
    15.39107858 Valencia
    16.25906824 Aragon

    Distance to: IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    2.98306889 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    5.03751923 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    5.14806760 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    6.75586412 North_Italian
    6.78988218 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    8.69822970 N_Italian
    9.72521465 Baleares
    10.82441684 IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    11.71405566 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    12.72055816 Galicia
    13.65209874 Spaniards
    13.66606015 Andalucia
    13.68447295 Extremadura
    13.72961762 TSI30
    14.12451061 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    14.14446181 Murcia
    14.19710534 Castilla_Y_Leon
    14.95184938 Cataluna
    14.96557049 Portuguese
    15.46727513 Tuscan
    15.51092518 Spanish
    15.51673290 Valencia
    15.71011776 Cantabria
    16.39121106 Castilla_La_Mancha
    16.74619360 Aragon

    Distance to: IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    4.01160816 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    5.03751923 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    5.15760603 North_Italian
    5.95183165 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    6.03394564 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    7.87889586 N_Italian
    8.24389471 Baleares
    11.06406345 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    11.32371847 Andalucia
    11.42493764 IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    11.42629424 Galicia
    11.95574339 Murcia
    12.07648128 Extremadura
    12.25715301 TSI30
    12.59229129 Spaniards
    12.99406788 Castilla_Y_Leon
    13.45805707 Portuguese
    14.10107088 Tuscan
    14.26729827 Cataluna
    14.31892454 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    14.36500609 Spanish
    14.53080865 Valencia
    14.78261817 Castilla_La_Mancha
    14.93880183 Canarias
    14.97183356 Cantabria

    Distance to: IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    3.27873451 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    4.01160816 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    5.14806760 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    5.24512154 North_Italian
    5.54009928 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    8.03976368 N_Italian
    8.21257572 Baleares
    10.85773457 Galicia
    10.87764221 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.98685578 IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    11.64063572 Murcia
    12.06155048 Extremadura
    12.15138675 Andalucia
    12.49035628 TSI30
    12.74874111 Castilla_Y_Leon
    12.84337962 Spaniards
    13.02558636 Portuguese
    14.10738814 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    14.29485922 Spanish
    14.48704249 Cataluna
    14.48716673 Tuscan
    14.59809577 Canarias
    15.02812031 Castilla_La_Mancha
    15.03589040 Valencia
    15.10769340 Cantabria

    Distance to: IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    5.40006481 N_Italian
    7.56863924 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    8.09843195 North_Italian
    10.68767982 IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    10.87764221 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    10.98056465 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    11.06406345 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    11.71405566 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    12.03535625 LA_Celio_R36
    12.08194107 Baleares
    12.08642627 O_Italian
    12.12151393 TSI30
    12.46485459 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    12.76096000 Galicia
    13.43684859 Extremadura
    14.08415422 Portuguese
    14.15437388 Tuscan
    14.17464638 Albanian_North
    14.26640459 Albanian_Kosovo
    15.65916026 Murcia
    15.83631902 Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549
    16.08680515 Castilla_Y_Leon
    16.25876994 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118
    16.41527642 Cataluna
    16.49286816 French

    Distance to: IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    7.11862346 O_Italian
    7.18894985 N_Italian
    7.51609606 Albanian_North
    7.56863924 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    7.76251248 Albanian_Kosovo
    8.94220890 LA_Celio_R36
    9.42569891 TSI30
    10.32626263 North_Italian
    10.61324644 Tuscan
    12.67284893 C_Italian
    12.72463359 Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549
    13.02779337 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970
    13.46066492 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    13.87592880 MA_Villa_Magna_R60
    14.10656230 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118
    14.10738814 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    14.12451061 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    14.28975507 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    14.31892454 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    15.04893352 Bulgarians
    15.06029880 Romanians
    15.41974708 Bulgarian
    15.78121351 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    15.89171168 MA_Villa_Magna_R1290
    16.03948877 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836

    Distance to: IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    4.59913035 S_Italian_Sicilian
    4.83577295 Sicilian
    5.37071690 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836
    5.58436209 MA_Villa_Magna_R1290
    5.75484144 MA_Villa_Magna_R65
    5.92564764 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973
    6.53716299 MA_Villa_Magna_R59
    6.57532509 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118
    6.62618291 C_Italian
    8.68328855 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    9.89564551 MA_Villa_Magna_R60
    10.09640530 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970
    10.16248001 Ashkenazi
    10.49031935 Tuscan
    10.64005169 Ashkenazy_Jews
    11.10535456 LA_Celio_R36
    11.26179382 Greek
    11.34612709 Greek_Crete
    11.40172794 Sephardic_Jews
    11.72748055 TSI30
    11.99572424 O_Italian
    12.17614060 Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548
    12.92229856 Morocco_Jews
    13.00421086 MA_Villa_Magna_R57
    13.37198938 Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549

    Distance to: IA_Latin_Ardea_R850
    3.90799181 Greek_Crete
    4.90446735 Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548
    7.13377179 Ashkenazy_Jews
    7.74058137 Sephardic_Jews
    7.82175172 Ashkenazi
    9.49243910 MA_Villa_Magna_R65
    10.15725357 S_Italian_Sicilian
    10.43784940 Sicilian
    10.88449356 Greek_Cappadocia
    11.74901272 MA_Villa_Magna_R59
    11.86263040 Cypriots
    11.99563671 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973
    12.08694751 Nusayri_Turkey
    12.19292418 Morocco_Jews
    13.12759689 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    13.17106678 Turk_West_BlackSea
    13.49063008 Turk_Central_West
    13.55089296 MA_Villa_Magna_R1290
    14.08757609 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836
    14.10277987 IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    14.16544387 Greek
    14.43175665 Turk_Central_East
    14.45064012 Turk_Anatolia
    14.88196224 MA_Villa_Magna_R60
    15.19421600 Turk_Southwest


    The only one that I see is closest to Iberians is R435:

    Distance to: IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    7.26140482 Baleares
    7.44595192 Galicia
    7.98874208 Cataluna
    8.99323635 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    9.01121523 Spaniards
    9.17724359 Extremadura
    9.91413133 Castilla_Y_Leon
    10.23676218 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    10.27070105 Portuguese
    10.32665483 Spanish
    10.44412754 French
    10.63531852 Cantabria
    10.68767982 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.82441684 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    10.98685578 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    11.10933391 French
    11.39798228 Murcia
    11.42493764 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    11.60238769 Valencia
    11.86962510 Castilla_La_Mancha
    12.09465584 North_Italian
    12.27742644 N_Italian
    12.63263235 Aragon
    12.88846771 Andalucia
    16.05179118 Canarias
    Very interesting.

    The Dodecad calculators usually gave better fits for Italians than Eurogenes did.

    I get why my husband gets Ashkenazim in Dodecad as third best fit sometimes: he's close to 850, which is close to Crete, and the Ashkenazi Jews are also close to Crete.

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    my trentino cousin has had her #1 points lowered and number 10 added

    1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.445 - R1 -
    Top 99% match vs all users

    2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 - ?
    Top 99% match vs all users

    3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 -
    Top 99% match vs all users

    4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 -
    Top 99% match vs all users

    5. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 - ?
    Top 99% match vs all users

    6. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c - ?
    Top 99% match vs all users

    7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.27 - R970 -
    Top 99% match vs all users

    8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 -
    Top 98% match vs all users

    9. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 8.921 - scy197b - ?
    Top 99% match vs all users

    10. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 9.056 - R36 -
    Top 99% match vs all users

    11. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.109 - scy192 -
    Top 99% match vs all users



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    R36
    mtDNA: T1a1
    Y-DNA: R-Z145



    my cousin is mtdna T1a1e
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
    Wife paternal line R1a-Z282

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    Something more about R474

    24. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 10.19
    - I3238 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users

    49. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 12.36 - R116 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users
    The 200 samples of R74 are the ones I have, except this one that I had never seen before.

    166. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland (1100 AD) ..... 20.72
    - PCA157_Mar6 - ?
    Top
    89
    % match vs all users


    Some features of R74

    SNP: rs9939609 (TT) - Relevance:7.2
    Lower risk of obesity and type-2 diabetes

    SNP: gs156a (Positive) - Relevance:5.0
    Fast metabolism

    SNP: rs2032582 (AA) - Relevance:1.7
    Rare genotype, on a triallelic snp

    SNP: rs17070145 (CC) - Relevance:0.8
    Reduced memory abilities

    SNP: rs4570625 (GG) - Relevance:0.7
    Maybe: higher scores on anxiety-related personality traits; greater placebo response}}one study of (only) 25 people {{pmid|19052197

    SNP: rs1426654 (AA) - Relevance:0.6
    Probably light-skinned, european ancestry

    SNP: rs1815739 (CC) - Relevance:0.6
    Better performing muscles. likely sprinter.

    SNP: rs334558 (AA) - Relevance:0.5
    Later onset of bipolar disorder

    SNP: rs821616 (AA) - Relevance:0.4
    Cognitive decline in older women

    SNP: rs12807809 (TT) - Relevance:0.3
    Schizophrenia

    SNP: rs1800860 (AG) - Relevance:0.3
    10% smaller kidneys as newborns

    SNP: rs182549 (CC) - Relevance:0.2
    Possibly lactose intolerant

    SNP: rs10784502 (TT) - Relevance:0.2
    Less intracranial volume?

    SNP: rs1569723 (CC) - Relevance:0.2
    Kawasaki disease

    SNP: rs2802292 (GG) - Relevance:0.2
    1.5x~2.7x more likely to live to 100.

    SNP: rs4870044 (CC) - Relevance:0.2
    Bone mineral density (spine)

    SNP: rs7776725 (TT) - Relevance:0.2
    Stronger bones

    SNP: rs7183877 (CC) - Relevance:0.1
    Blue eye color if part of blue eye color haplotype

    SNP: rs8028689 (TT) - Relevance:0.1
    Blue eye color if part of blue eye color haplotype

    SNP: rs7816345 (CC) - Relevance:0.1
    bigger breast size (normal in european)

    SNP: rs13208776 (GG) - Relevance:0.1
    Higher risk for generalized vitiligo

    SNP: rs3923890 (AA) - Relevance:0.1
    Lower social interaction

    SNP: rs4778241 (AA) - Relevance:0.1
    Usually brown eye color

    SNP: rs35264875 (TT) - Relevance:0.1
    Blonde hair color

    SNP: rs885479 (GG) - Relevance:0.1
    Darker skin color

    SNP: rs17001266 (TT) - Relevance:0.1
    1.58x increased risk for schizophrenia in males

    SNP: rs12416000 (GG) - Relevance:0.1
    Homo sapiens gene (not neanderthal)

    SNP: rs4085613 (TT) - Relevance:0.1
    Psoriasis

    SNP: rs6060373 (AA) - Relevance:0.1
    Height

    SNP: rs6088813 (AA) - Relevance:0.1
    Height

    SNP: rs572169 (CC) - Relevance:0.1
    Height

    SNP: rs1007371 (TT) - Relevance:0.1
    Rare genotype.

    SNP: rs4552569 (CC) - Relevance:0.1
    Ankylosing spondylitis


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    Something more about R473

    R473

    1. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 7.925 - I10853 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users

    5. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 9.525 - I7457 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users

    6. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 10.11 - I12208 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users
    15. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 10.98 - I12209 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users
    17. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 11.16 - I3585 -
    Top
    97
    % match vs all users
    23. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 11.77 - I12034 -
    Top
    98
    % match vs all users
    52. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) ..... 14.1 - MS10614 - ?
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users
    88. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 16.08 - I1388 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users
    109. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 17.41 - I12171 -
    Top
    99
    % match vs all users
    200. North Alpine Bronze Age (1790 BC) ..... 24.21 - AITI_78 -
    Top
    33
    % match vs all users

    SNP: rs182549 (CC) - Relevance:0.2
    Possibly lactose intolerant

    SNP: rs900400 (TC) - Relevance:0.2
    Birth weight

    SNP: rs12913832 (AG) - Relevance:1.0
    Brown eye color

    SNP: rs16891982 (GG) - Relevance:0.8
    Generally european; light skin; possibly an increased risk of melanoma}}this snp is associated with skin, hair, and eye colour, and risk of melanoma. individuals with the g;g genotype are generally of european descent and have fair skin.{{pmid auto|pmid=19710684|oa=1

    SNP: rs4570625 (GG) - Relevance:0.7
    Maybe: higher scores on anxiety-related personality traits; greater placebo response}}one study of (only) 25 people {{pmid|19052197

    SNP: rs12970134 (AA) - Relevance:0.6
    Adult waist 1.8cm larger on average

    SNP: rs9652490 (AA) - Relevance:0.6
    ~2x increased risk for parkinson's disease, and, essential tremor

    SNP: rs1426654 (AA) - Relevance:0.6
    Probably light-skinned, european ancestry

    SNP: rs7216389 (TT) - Relevance:0.6
    1.5x increased risk for childhood asthma.

    SNP: rs334558 (AA) - Relevance:0.5
    Later onset of bipolar disorder

    SNP: rs4307059 (CC) - Relevance:0.5
    Reduced autism risk

    SNP: rs7647305 (TC) - Relevance:0.5
    Obesity risk

    SNP: rs10246939 (CC) - Relevance:0.4
    Can taste bitter

    SNP: rs2494732 (TT) - Relevance:0.4
    Lower odds of psychosis

    SNP: rs7495174 (AA) - Relevance:0.3
    Blue/gray eyes more likely

    SNP: rs610604 (TT) - Relevance:0.2
    Psoriasis

    SNP: rs6932590 (TT) - Relevance:0.2
    1.1x increased risk for schizophrenia

    SNP: rs6435862 (GG) - Relevance:0.2
    2.8x higher risk of aggressive neuroblastoma

    SNP: rs12896399 (GG) - Relevance:0.2
    Light hair color

    SNP: rs13316193 (TT) - Relevance:0.2
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    You know who it is.

    These are the ancestral populations that make up your ethnicity, all of them grouped on a pie chart. See my resumed most recent MTA results:


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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
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    I get so much Roman mostly for the samples from Hungary.....how we know they are Roman? At that time borders were protected by soldiers from Illyricani.


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    I'm not sure who they were. All we know is that Szolad was part of an area in Pannonia which remained "Romanized" for a long time, and then was also under Byzantine rule for a time.

    "Pannonia, a province of the Western Roman empire, was devastated by the barbarian invasions (Huns, Gepids, Avars, etc.). Only a few thousand Romanized Pannonians survived the onslaughts,[dubiousdiscuss] mainly around Lake Pelso (now lake Balaton) in small fortified villages such as Keszthely.



    Roman Pannonia and surrounding areas


    The Romanic population from Pannonia created the Keszthely culture that evolved mainly during the 6th-7th centuries. Its artifacts were made in the workshops of Roman origin located mainly in the fortified settlements of Keszthely-Fenékpuszta and Sopianae (modern Pécs). "
    "Under the Avars, the Roman castle of Fenékpuszta near Keszthely and the surroundings were not occupied, so the original Romanized inhabitants lived on undisturbed. They paid food and artisan goods for peace from the Avars. After 568 new Christian Romanized Pannonians arrived here, probably from the destroyed Aquincum (modern Budapest). The Keszthely-Fenékpuszta fortress became the centre of a 30 km diameter area, where the people buried their dead adorned with jewellery and clothing of Byzantine origin. They rebuilt the fortress basilica, where the principals of the community were buried, while their relatives found their final resting places next to the nearby horreum (granary). In 626, the Avars were seriously defeated under Constantinople, which was followed by a civil war. The leaders of the Keszthely-Fenékpuszta community had supported those who were later defeated. That was why the Avars besieged and then destroyed the fortress of Fenékpuszta. They made the rest of the Romanized population move into the territory of the town centre. The Christian Romanized population was subjected to military suppression. The cemeteries of the 7th and 8th centuries entombed both Avars and Christians, but they were buried separately. The different religions did not allow them to mix even after death. The Christian Romanized populace, which spoke its own Romance Pannonian language, was cut from the outer world and created a unique, characteristic material culture, which we know from the artifacts of the cemeteries near Keszthely. These finds have been termed Keszthely culture. At that time, Keszthely was the center of the Pannonian region, because the area of Lake Balaton was crossed by roads connecting the Danube and the Mediterranean."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keszthely_culture

    The Langobards were late arrivals and stayed for only one generation.

    The Byzantines didn't arrive until after the date of these burials, but perhaps the arrivals after 568 were from further south rather than Budapest?

    It's undeniable that some of the samples are Greek like, and even island Greek like, while others are Tuscan like.


    I'm very close to SZ36 and I'm part Tuscan. Stuvane is also very close to him and he's from the Romagna. I'm not surprised that Albanians are getting hits with them. They're coming up on my calculator results quite often.

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    3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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    The two Szolad samples to which I'm closest are a mixture of TSI Tuscan, IBS Spanish, and a minority British component. I wish they'd used something other than 1000 Genomes, but it's undeniable some of them are extremely close to modern Italians.

    Pretty close to Albanians, as well it appears.



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    Were the Avars Slavs? Or a Slavicized group? From what I've read, the Longobards didn't stay in Pannonia very long but given its location, it's not surprising that different groups passed through the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    These are the ancestral populations that make up your ethnicity, all of them grouped on a pie chart. See my resumed most recent MTA results:


    Your closest Ancient populations...




    Cheers:)
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    It would be necessary to see the wheel of a modern Basque.

    Compressed values in older Iberians gain more ground to the Iberian until they reach the current era, some new contributions, others that disappear, many nomenclatures for basically the same, I don't know very well how to interpret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I'm not sure who they were. All we know is that Szolad was part of an area in Pannonia which remained "Romanized" for a long time, and then was also under Byzantine rule for a time.

    "Pannonia, a province of the Western Roman empire, was devastated by the barbarian invasions (Huns, Gepids, Avars, etc.). Only a few thousand Romanized Pannonians survived the onslaughts,[dubiousdiscuss] mainly around Lake Pelso (now lake Balaton) in small fortified villages such as Keszthely.



    Roman Pannonia and surrounding areas


    The Romanic population from Pannonia created the Keszthely culture that evolved mainly during the 6th-7th centuries. Its artifacts were made in the workshops of Roman origin located mainly in the fortified settlements of Keszthely-Fenékpuszta and Sopianae (modern Pécs). "
    "Under the Avars, the Roman castle of Fenékpuszta near Keszthely and the surroundings were not occupied, so the original Romanized inhabitants lived on undisturbed. They paid food and artisan goods for peace from the Avars. After 568 new Christian Romanized Pannonians arrived here, probably from the destroyed Aquincum (modern Budapest). The Keszthely-Fenékpuszta fortress became the centre of a 30 km diameter area, where the people buried their dead adorned with jewellery and clothing of Byzantine origin. They rebuilt the fortress basilica, where the principals of the community were buried, while their relatives found their final resting places next to the nearby horreum (granary). In 626, the Avars were seriously defeated under Constantinople, which was followed by a civil war. The leaders of the Keszthely-Fenékpuszta community had supported those who were later defeated. That was why the Avars besieged and then destroyed the fortress of Fenékpuszta. They made the rest of the Romanized population move into the territory of the town centre. The Christian Romanized population was subjected to military suppression. The cemeteries of the 7th and 8th centuries entombed both Avars and Christians, but they were buried separately. The different religions did not allow them to mix even after death. The Christian Romanized populace, which spoke its own Romance Pannonian language, was cut from the outer world and created a unique, characteristic material culture, which we know from the artifacts of the cemeteries near Keszthely. These finds have been termed Keszthely culture. At that time, Keszthely was the center of the Pannonian region, because the area of Lake Balaton was crossed by roads connecting the Danube and the Mediterranean."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keszthely_culture

    The Langobards were late arrivals and stayed for only one generation.

    The Byzantines didn't arrive until after the date of these burials, but perhaps the arrivals after 568 were from further south rather than Budapest?

    It's undeniable that some of the samples are Greek like, and even island Greek like, while others are Tuscan like.


    I'm very close to SZ36 and I'm part Tuscan. Stuvane is also very close to him and he's from the Romagna. I'm not surprised that Albanians are getting hits with them. They're coming up on my calculator results quite often.

    My results:

    1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 -
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    2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ?
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    3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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    4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 -
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    5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 -
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    The two Szolad samples to which I'm closest are a mixture of TSI Tuscan, IBS Spanish, and a minority British component. I wish they'd used something other than 1000 Genomes, but it's undeniable some of them are extremely close to modern Italians.

    Pretty close to Albanians, as well it appears.


    IMG_4109.JPG

    The Vlachs (Aromanian) large presence in South Albanian probably explain my strong connection to these samples, but I am not sure how to explain yours.? Can you shed some light on that? I think is very interesting?


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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
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    The Vlachs (Aromanian) large presence in South Albanian probably explain my strong connection to these samples, but I am not sure how to explain yours.? Can you shed some light on that? I think is very interesting?


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    It isn't at all easy to answer, Blevins.


    Two hypotheses turn around my head or they have been proposed to me: we are talking about groups of individuals of mixed origin more or less recent in historical age (mediterranean + continental = i.e. Romans assimilated to the local Pannonian and / or Lombard populations merged with Romans / provincials ), or it must be assumed that in some areas of continental Europe inhabited local populations whose ancestral quotas previously inherited - and before mixing completely with Germanic or Slavic populations - were completely similar to those of the autosomal of a current northern/central Italian.


    Needless to deny that this second hypothesis would be extremely interesting to investigate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    It isn't at all easy to answer, Blevins.


    Two hypotheses turn around my head or they have been proposed to me: we are talking about groups of individuals of mixed origin more or less recent in historical age (mediterranean + continental = i.e. Romans assimilated to the local Pannonian and / or Lombard populations merged with Romans / provincials ), or it must be assumed that in some areas of continental Europe inhabited local populations whose ancestral quotas previously inherited - and before mixing completely with Germanic or Slavic populations - were completely similar to those of the autosomal of a current northern/central Italian.


    Needless to deny that this second hypothesis would be extremely interesting to investigate.


    I bet on your hypothesis












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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    I bet on your hypothesis











    @Carlos,

    I still can't put my hand on the fire, but this persistent and common occurrence in our timelines of Iberian, Italic / Etruscan and Illyrian individuals make me suspect that in protohistoric Europe - at least in the middle continental area - fairly homogeneous populations had originated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    It isn't at all easy to answer, Blevins.


    Two hypotheses turn around my head or they have been proposed to me: we are talking about groups of individuals of mixed origin more or less recent in historical age (mediterranean + continental = i.e. Romans assimilated to the local Pannonian and / or Lombard populations merged with Romans / provincials ), or it must be assumed that in some areas of continental Europe inhabited local populations whose ancestral quotas previously inherited - and before mixing completely with Germanic or Slavic populations - were completely similar to those of the autosomal of a current northern/central Italian.


    Needless to deny that this second hypothesis would be extremely interesting to investigate.
    That's it in a nutshell. :)

    I don't know if even more samples will clear it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
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    The Vlachs (Aromanian) large presence in South Albanian probably explain my strong connection to these samples, but I am not sure how to explain yours.? Can you shed some light on that? I think is very interesting?


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    I agree with Stuvane as to the options.

    I also agree that it may be that the steppe admixed populations which were in central Europe, the northern Balkans, and also went into Italy and Iberia were pretty similar. However, we have in Szolad some definitely "Greek like" even Island Greek like samples, so these were, it would seem to me, from the "colonization" period, or they arrived afterwards, but still before the conquest by the Byzantines going by the dates. Whether there were also arrivals from parts of the Italian peninsula I have no idea.

    I can also tell you that based on not just mytrueancestry but the gedmatch calculators, I'm closer to the Illyrian/Dalmatian samples and Scythian Moldova samples than I am to the vast majority of Imperial samples. That's been a big surprise.

    As for the Vlachs, you would know much more about that than I do. I can tell you, though, that the Albanians who show up on my lists at the gedmatch thread are, first, Kosovans, and second, Albania north.

    Other northern and central Italians may get different results.

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    I share more cm and similarity with Illyrian samples than Thracian(despite getting this in closest). Not sure what their algorithms are. Here are my updated results:










    Romans- 43.6%
    Hellenic Romans- 12.1%
    Roman Hispania- 10.2%
    Ancient Greek- 7.98%
    Illyrian- 5.64%
    Minoan- 4.85%
    Thracian- 4.46%
    Gallo-Roman- 3.59%
    Phillistine- 2.84%
    Hittite- 2.72%
    Gaul- 1.9%



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    25. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 14.1 - NS3c - ?
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    28. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 14.4 - CL121 -
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    32. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.88 - R56 -
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    33. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 14.97 - R36 -
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    34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.07 - I3576 -
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    36. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 15.42 - R1 -
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    37. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.48 - BSS31
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    38. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.54 - scy197b - ?
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    39. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.68 - scy192 -
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    41. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.76 - SZ28 - ?
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    43. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 16.14 - NS3b - ?
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    44. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.2 - SI-53 -
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    48. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 16.69 - OBS137 - ?
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    49. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.74 - R133 -
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    52. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.85 - I2647
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    54. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.43 - R118 -
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    55. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.59 - R1283 -
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    56. Roman Villa Granada Spain (350 AD) ..... 17.75 - I3983 -
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    57. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.77 - I4332 -
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    60. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 18.11 - R1540
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    I share more cm and similarity with Illyrian samples than Thracian(despite getting this in closest). Not sure what their algorithms are. Here are my updated results:










    Romans- 43.6%
    Hellenic Romans- 12.1%
    Roman Hispania- 10.2%
    Ancient Greek- 7.98%
    Illyrian- 5.64%
    Minoan- 4.85%
    Thracian- 4.46%
    Gallo-Roman- 3.59%
    Phillistine- 2.84%
    Hittite- 2.72%
    Gaul- 1.9%



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    4. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 11.49 - R437 -
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    5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 11.56 - I9033 -
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    6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.95 - R107 -
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    7. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.16 - R60 -
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    8. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 12.17 - R54 -
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    14. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 12.92 - R436 -
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    15. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.06 - R57 -
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    16. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 13.07 - CL36 - ?
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    17. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 13.08 - R136 -
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    18. Central Roman Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 13.74 - R125 -
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    21. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ19 -
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    22. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.97 - SZ40 - ?
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    23. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 14.04 - R1548 -
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    25. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 14.1 - NS3c - ?
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    28. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 14.4 - CL121 -
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    29. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 14.61 - R47 -
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    30. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.68 - R49 -
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    31. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 14.79 - R970 -
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    32. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.88 - R56 -
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    33. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 14.97 - R36 -
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    34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.07 - I3576 -
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    35. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 15.09 - R35 -
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    36. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 15.42 - R1 -
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    37. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.48 - BSS31
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    38. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.54 - scy197b - ?
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    39. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.68 - scy192 -
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    40. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 15.74 - I3575 -
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    41. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.76 - SZ28 - ?
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    42. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 15.94 - I4930 -
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    43. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 16.14 - NS3b - ?
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    44. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.2 - SI-53 -
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    45. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 16.3 - R58 -
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    46. Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 16.5 - R69 -
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    47. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 16.62 - R51 -
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    48. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 16.69 - OBS137 - ?
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    49. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.74 - R133 -
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    50. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 16.76 - R114 -
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    51. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 16.78 - R52 -
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    52. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.85 - I2647
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    53. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 17.16 - R64 -
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    54. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.43 - R118 -
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    55. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.59 - R1283 -
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    56. Roman Villa Granada Spain (350 AD) ..... 17.75 - I3983 -
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    57. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.77 - I4332 -
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    58. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 17.88 - R59 -
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    59. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.98 - I3582 -
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    60. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 18.11 - R1540
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    This will show you the makeup of the Szolad samples to which you're closest. Red is TSI Tuscan, Blue is IBS Spain, which is a combination of Catalan and Andalusian samples, and Grey is Great Britain or generally Northwest European "like".



    Their algorithm puts me much closer to Szolad than gedmatch calculators do, but further from Illyrians, Scythians, Thracians etc. (I get a distance of 6 with those tools), so they're NOT just a rip off of K15.
    1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 -
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    2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ?
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    3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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    4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 -
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    5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 -
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    6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.391 - R107 -
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    7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.474 - R970 -
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    8. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 8.697 - R1540
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    9. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 9.44 - R36 -
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    10. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.528 - BSS31
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    11. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 9.549 - R1290 -
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    12. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 9.561 - R835 -
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    13. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.698 - SZ28 - ?
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    14. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 9.734 - CL121 -
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    15. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 10.06 - scy192 -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    This will show you the makeup of the Szolad samples to which you're closest. Red is TSI Tuscan, Blue is IBS Spain, which is a combination of Catalan and Andalusian samples, and Grey is Great Britain or generally Northwest European "like".



    Their algorithm puts me much closer to Szolad than gedmatch calculators do, but further from Illyrians, Scythians, Thracians etc. (I get a distance of 6 with those tools), so they're NOT just a rip off of K15.
    1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 -
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    2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ?
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    3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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    4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 -
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    5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 -
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    6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.391 - R107 -
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    7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.474 - R970 -
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    8. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 8.697 - R1540
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    9. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 9.44 - R36 -
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    10. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.528 - BSS31
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    11. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 9.549 - R1290 -
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    12. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 9.561 - R835 -
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    13. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.698 - SZ28 - ?
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    14. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 9.734 - CL121 -
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    15. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 10.06 - scy192 -
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    for correction

    A population assignment analysis (PAA) that estimates uncertainty in genetic ancestry assignment finds that individuals with high CEU + GBR ancestry are assigned to countries from all over modern central, northern, and northwest Europe (Supplementary Note 10, Supplementary Figure 50, Supplementary Data 4). We refer to this as central/northern ancestry as it is generally difficult to distinguish this with more precision given the resolution of our data.

    as you see below....they combined 2 to get the blue


    If the combine TSI+IBS the result = Balkan .............as per what is stated in other papers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    This will show you the makeup of the Szolad samples to which you're closest. Red is TSI Tuscan, Green is IBS Spain, which is a combination of Catalan and Andalusian samples, and Blue is generally Northwest European "like".



    Their algorithm puts me much closer to Szolad than gedmatch calculators do, but further from Illyrians, Scythians, Thracians etc. (I get a distance of 6 with those tools), so they're NOT just a rip off of K15.
    1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 -
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    2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ?
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    3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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    4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 -
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    5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 -
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    6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.391 - R107 -
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    7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.474 - R970 -
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    8. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 8.697 - R1540
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    9. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 9.44 - R36 -
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    10. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.528 - BSS31
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    11. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 9.549 - R1290 -
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    12. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 9.561 - R835 -
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    13. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.698 - SZ28 - ?
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    14. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 9.734 - CL121 -
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    15. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 10.06 - scy192 -
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    Sorry, Dibran, I screwed up the color code. Red is TSI like, Green is IBS like, and Blue is Northwest European like. It would have been clearer if they hadn't limited themselves to 1000 genomes. Or maybe Amorim saw this was actually MORE clear. :)

    Here is what I mean about the Illyrian/Dalmatian samples. In gedmatch ancient calculations I'm at about 6 from all these people.

    18. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.28 - I3313 -
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    36. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 12.23 - scy197b - ?
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    37. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.43 - I4331 -
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    43. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 12.98 - scy300 -
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    Overall activity: 0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R-YP3994
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1*

    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Switzerland



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    I share more cm and similarity with Illyrian samples than Thracian(despite getting this in closest). Not sure what their algorithms are. ^
    I do not understand it either. In the breakdown, I have almost two times more Illyrian than Thracian but Illyrians do not even appear among my closest ancient populations.

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