Mytrueancestry.com

I did it and there were results of the latest samples added.


ETRUSCANVillanovanEtruscanR1015.JPEG

ETRUSCANCivitavecchiaR473.JPEG

ETRUSCANCIVITAVECCHIAR474.JPEG

ETRUSCANtribeInlandBER1021.JPEG

ETRUSCANLatinPrenestiniTribeInlandR435.JPEG

ETRUSCANCeltoIBERIANOutlierROMER116.JPEG

EtruscanVillaMagnaR63.JPEG

ETRUSCANlateMedievalCancelleriaBASILICAR1289.JPEG
 
Last edited:
reload: (R850 - Latin Tribe - Iron Age - Carusu) 100% Closer ... :unsure:

nxB3LzM.jpg


u6QzUst.jpg
 
I get 100x100 compared to other users with Prenestini

ETRUSCANLatinPrenestiniTribeInlandR435.JPEG


Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) (4.092)
Roman Era Girona (80 AD) (4.845)
Carolingian (790 AD) (5.824)
Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) (5.831)
Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) (6.001)

1. Spanish_Cantabria (15.10)
2. Southwest_French (16.65)
3. Spanish_Aragon (16.80)
4. Spanish_Cataluna (17.32)
5. Spanish_Basque (17.60)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (17.80)
7. French_Basque (17.81)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (18.04)

PCAprenestiniR435.JPEG


PCAprenestiniR435modern.JPEG


 
@Salento

Here is a sample that we get exclusively; at least based on surveying the results in the thread:

28. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 15.26 - R437 - [FONT=&quot][/FONT] (Click for more info)
Top
[FONT=&quot]​
98
% match vs all users

wp9IRQR.png
[/FONT]
 
I didn't paste all of my husband's matches. He gets that sample too, although at a slightly bigger distance, so that makes three of you. :)

49. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 17.02 - R437 - (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users

I re-uploaded my ancestry dna data. (Thanks for the tip, Salento) I can understand why these new samples didn't show up on the old runs, but why did I lose all that sharing with Scythian Moldova? Odd.

You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)Info


Protovillanovia Martinsicuro


930 BC


R1





mtDNA: U5a2b
Total cM=63.76
Largest segment=48.54 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 94) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 8

15.22 cM










Chr. 16

48.54 cM









Medieval Cancelleria Basilica


860 AD


R1283





mtDNA: H12Y-DNA: J-M12
Total cM=12.77
Largest segment=12.77 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 56) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 20

12.77 cM









Imperial Rome Centocelle


200 AD


R51





mtDNA: U3b1
Total cM=24.07
Largest segment=11.4 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 54) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 6

7.23 cM










Chr. 15

5.43 cM










Chr. 20

11.4 cM









Medieval Iberian


670 AD


CL23





mtDNA: HV1a1aY-DNA: T1a
Total cM=9.59
Largest segment=9.59 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is
20
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 20

9.59 cM









Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi


500 AD


R107





mtDNA: T2hY-DNA: E-V13
Total cM=9.09
Largest segment=9.09 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 69) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 6

9.09 cM









Illyrian / Dalmatian


1600 BC


I4331





mtDNA: I1a1Y-DNA: J2b2a
Total cM=9.08
Largest segment=9.08 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is
8
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 19

9.08 cM









Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello


100 AD


R114





mtDNA: U1b1
Total cM=14.16
Largest segment=8.43 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 61) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 6

8.43 cM










Chr. 13

5.73 cM









Imperial Rome Centocelle


282 AD


R47





mtDNA: J1c1cY-DNA: G-M406
Total cM=13.22
Largest segment=7.81 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 60) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 1

5.4 cM










Chr. 6

7.81 cM









Medieval Villa Magna Italy


905 AD


R60





mtDNA: T2c1
Total cM=7.39
Largest segment=7.39 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 77) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 15

7.39 cM









Medieval Villa Magna Italy


1100 AD


R58





mtDNA: H1c3Y-DNA: R-Z306
Total cM=5.6
Largest segment=5.6 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 70) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 1

5.6 cM









Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP


100 AD


R111





mtDNA: HY-DNA: R-PF7589
Total cM=5.33
Largest segment=5.33 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 38) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 6

5.33 cM









Central Roman


670 AD


CL121





mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: R1b
Total cM=10.65
Largest segment=5.14 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
71
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 7

1.75 cM










Chr. 10

3.75 cM










Chr. 19

5.14 cM









Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese


670 AD


CL30





mtDNA: I1bY-DNA: R1b
Total cM=3.74
Largest segment=3.74 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
15
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 8

3.74 cM









Scythian Southern Moldova


290 BC


scy300





mtDNA: H5
Total cM=2.76
Largest segment=2.76 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 27) - Your raw DNA is
16
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 7

2.76 cM









Scythian Moldova


290 BC


scy311





mtDNA: T2b
Total cM=5.11
Largest segment=2.57 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 23) - Your raw DNA is
62
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

2.54 cM










Chr. 5

2.57 cM









Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate


1050 AD


I12515





mtDNA: H3Y-DNA: J2a
Total cM=2.54
Largest segment=2.54 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 31) - Your raw DNA is
59
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 4

2.54 cM









Central Roman / Mixed


590 AD


SZ19





mtDNA: HV9c
Total cM=5.91
Largest segment=2.24 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
74
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

2.24 cM










Chr. 17

3.67 cM













Scythian Southern Moldova


270 BC


scy192





mtDNA: H8c
Total cM=2.07
Largest segment=2.07 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is
11
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 15

2.07 cM









Central Roman


590 AD


SZ32





mtDNA: H74 ?
Total cM=1.86
Largest segment=1.86 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
5
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 15

1.86 cM









Hellenic Roman / Cretan


670 AD


CL38





mtDNA: X2Y-DNA: E1b
Total cM=1.79
Largest segment=1.79 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
33
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 22

1.79 cM









I keep having to remind myself that sharing some IBD doesn't necessarily equate to overall similarity. A lot of these are a pretty far genetic distance for me, although not the Protovillanovan.

Ed. Wait. That Latin Prenestini sample 437 shows up on my map but not on my list of ancient samples. Why?

 
Someone can get a map but of current Italy with the marks of where these sites are, Prenestini, Ardea, e.t.c. and Rome to have a visualization of the area and distance but on a current political map. I need to have that vision of the old with the modern or the modern to see it more clearly.


/Angela download the "PicPick"/

cM 121.15

ETRUSCANCivitavecchiaR473.JPEG


I just learned that the Etruscans criticized us a lot out there. But you know one thing: We didn't care lol
 
R437 Latin Prenestini Tribe 300 BC is my 3rd highest segment sharing on Deep Dive.

I speculate that he’s a kind of “Ancestral Father” :) and many of my Roman matches get a piece of him.

I lowered the Deep Dive map setting to my R437 values (min cm 29):
JSZ0wyM.jpg


Zoom Default setting:
IPEzE2p.jpg


8RotnRJ.jpg


nQV8E9t.jpg


Jbpt9Lf.jpg
 
Based on my observations of the results in the thread,

North Italians have an affinity to Proto-Villanovans

Iberians have an affinity to Etruscans, and the Latin samples that are similar to Etruscans.

South Italians have an affinity to the "Southern" Latin Samples

With Ardea Latini having an affinity to all three, but closest to South Italians.

:unsure:
 
R1 Villanova Bronze Age Top 20 Ancient Matches:
JebynMN.jpg



R437 Latin Roman Republic Top 20 Ancient Matches:
Pw61wcD.jpg
 
No, guys, I mean that Prenestini shows up on my Republic Era map, and Etruscan Civitavechhia on my Iron Age map along with one of the Ardea samples, but neither shows up on my list of ancient samples.

Odd, yes?

Could it possibly be because my 60th match is 15.63, and these were higher, or is there another explanation?

eoBExXy.png


DnbeHO0.png

jokmc06.png
Very cool graphic, Salento. :
 
QBOHGv1.png


wNUIE0G.png

uS4C1QH.png

pdmN0PC.png

Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.55 - I3313 - (Click for more info)
Top 95% match vs all users

Q7vG92C.png

w7CQelF.png

GSHES7T.png


n4zev3T.png

Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 15.3 - R1021 - (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users
Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 17.98 - R851 - (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users
Latin Tribe Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.3 - R1016 - (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

j39iTdM.png

Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 17.47 - R435 - (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users

MiCzrGJ.png

pJmT7ME.png

Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 16.29 - R111 - (Click for more info)
Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 16.95 - R116 - (Click for more info)
Top 89% match vs all users

7mBolrz.png


J7I2HFo.png

9k9fxjC.png

oZJiWRf.png

edF8aJ7.png

Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.34 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info)
Top 96% match vs all users
Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.59 - SZ45 - (Click for more info)
Top 68% match vs all users
Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.93 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info)
Top 88% match vs all users
Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.24 - CL47 - ? (Click for more info)
Top 47% match vs all users
North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 18.48 - CL63 - ? (Click for more info)
Top 42% match vs all users
Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 18.85 - CL102 - ? (Click for more info)
Top 40% match vs all users
Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.29 - SZ18 - (Click for more info)
Top 44% match vs all users

Na5XXhG.png

lQ6yIXV.png

Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 12.69 - R1287 - (Click for more info)
Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.8 - R1283 - (Click for more info)
Top 95% match vs all users

QUeOdKA.png
 
After and before Rome. An increase of R1a and J is observed. In mitochondrial increase in K, H and U

donutnweY.jpg

YDNDISTRIBUTION.jpg


donutonewmtDNA.JPEG

Image%2B2.jpg
 
No, guys, I mean that Prenestini shows up on my Republic Era map, and Etruscan Civitavechhia on my Iron Age map along with one of the Ardea samples, but neither shows up on my list of ancient samples.

Odd, yes?

Could it possibly be because my 60th match is 15.63, and these were higher, or is there another explanation?

eoBExXy.png


DnbeHO0.png

jokmc06.png
Very cool graphic, Salento. :

I think that is exactly the reason.
 
Personally, I take them with a big grain of salt. Scythian Moldova is a good example. I sincerely doubt he is a full "Scythian". For me to get a 25.4 cm. "match", I bet the person had a whole bunch of Southeastern Balkan type farmer. Also, with that large cM "match", why is the genetic distance so much greater than with some other samples? I do realize they're measuring different things, but it's just odd, and someone unfamiliar with all this might get confused.

It apears that many Scythian samples are Gelonians ... combinations of Greeks and Finnic Budinis.

Screen Shot 2019-11-17 at 17.52.32.jpg

Screen Shot 2019-11-17 at 17.57.46.png
 
My family portrait values are unchanged:

HzRpZhx.jpg


Top 10 (# 3 and 4 were my # 1 and 2):
6qszX7X.jpg


@Angela thanks, ... the R1 and R437 PCA images are snapshots of MTA 3-D Sample Analysis PCA :)
 
My results have changed a lot, so I'm posting my new top 10 matches:

1. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) .... 10.14
Top 98% match vs all users


2. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 11.11
Top 98% match vs all users


3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.71
Top 96% match vs all users


4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.26
Top 97% m atch vs all users


5. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.67
Top 96% match vs all users


6. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.25
Top 95% match vs all users


7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 13.35
Top 96% match vs all users


8. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 13.67
Top 99% match vs all users


9. Medieval Winchester Chapel Leper (1085 AD) ..... 13.78
Top 96% match vs all users


10. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.96
Top 95% match vs all users

Where did this Medieval Winchester Chapel come from???
 

This thread has been viewed 1253365 times.

Back
Top