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    Quote Originally Posted by Gash View Post
    I forgot to mention South Slavs also get Avar.




    This doesn't mean that you have such ancestry. Its just Serbs are mixed with natives who were probably similar to modern Albanians which of course they deny. These calcs some of them dont use Albanian samples or else you would probably get Albanian as close as Greek and Tuscany.

    Serbs are propgandists who have been pushing Caucasus theory on Albanians for generations only to get disproven by genetics, linguistics etc. so now they make up some new theory that can suit their agenda.
    I’m aware of the meaning of my results, and I’m also aware of the Balkan Feuds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Englander View Post
    What is the 2200BC dot in Sicily? I see lots of us have this showing up, but I havent seen it blue yet.
    I was curious about the blue and red dots too. I e-mailed the creators of the calculator, asking about their significance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I was curious about the blue and red dots too. I e-mailed the creators of the calculator, asking about their significance.
    The FAQ’s detail there significance as follows:

    ‘Blue dots link to a clearly defined set of ancient peoples. Red dots refer to ancient samples where identity is difficult to determine based on archaelogical evidence.
    Faded dots mean distant connection, brighter dots mean very close DNA distance to you’.

    It is difficult to work out whether dots that overlap are faded or not. I’ve also noticed that a blue Saxon 700AD reference appears in all of my premium maps but not in the corresponding archaeological maps.

    I’ve also noticed that on some maps, the circle for a given sample (such as Celtic/Viking Iceland 1000AD, for example), is the same size on all of my maps, but is larger on all of my mum’s maps (with two differing sizes being used depending upon the raw data sample).


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    A very interesting paper on population movements as a matter of policy by the Byzantine Emperors to disperse troublesome elements (i.e. Armenians, Slavs, heretics) serve as bulwarks against aggressive "barbarians" or to repopulate emptied lands (Thrace):
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/177624?...o_tab_contents
    Armenians were displaced all over Asia Minor, Syria, Thrace and Macedonia, Slavs were displaced to Asia Minor and a whole bunch of heretics were displaced from Asia Minor to Thrace. These extensive population movements which the author says is a continuation of Roman policy might play havoc with genetics and screw up "ethnic" purity. So if you have Scythian Roman in your true ancestry your ancestors might be some of those displaced people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Englander View Post
    What is the 2200BC dot in Sicily? I see lots of us have this showing up, but I havent seen it blue yet.
    If I'm not mistaken that's a Sicilian buried in a Beaker setting but without any steppe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    We're going to have to agree to disagree.

    I'm closer to one of the "Romans" in Szolad than I am to any modern Italian population. I think that means something.

    Those people were "absorbed" in one generation in an area which we know maintained a Romano-Christian culture into the 7th century, spoke a Romance language, and where one can find many Roman villas and forts. We also know it was retaken by the Eastern Roman Empire for a good chunk of time. I'm not at all surprised some of the samples look like Greeks. Those forts would have been manned by Byzantium.

    Now, I'm sure that most of Hungary was not like the area around Lake Balaton, but this area was indeed different.

    One can also look at the Collegno graveyard. There are actual "Germanic" Langobards, some Gallic like women, which makes sense since France is so close, one "Tuscan" like person and a number of "Hellenic" like or Greek shifted people. Collego is in Italy. What else could those people be but late Antiquity Romans?

    I know it goes against what some people have thought for so long, but it is what it is. The "locals" from Italy and from Szolad are very similar.

    I'm not going into the minefield of Balkan genetics. I don't know why people from the western Balkans get lower "Illyrian" and "Thracian" than some Northern Italians. I just know that archaeology, linguistics, and now genetics confirm that these types of people also went to Northern Italy, particularly Northeastern Italy. Again, it is what it is.

    It goes without saying that the people from Hungary today are very different from the ones of the 6th century. From what I can tell a lot of their ancestry is south German/eastern French like, probably the result of the great west to east migrations of later Medieval periods.

    Ed. Whether these Romans are like the Romans of the Republic and the early Empire we will know when those ancient samples are released. I think it's suggestive, however, that from what the author has said, there were two groups, one northern Italian like, and one Southern Italian like. Doesn't that seem to be about what the Collegno and Szolad samples show?
    If you want to believe that the Romans had that much of a genetic impact on the Balkans then be my guest. However there isn't any genetic data that supports this though I am of course open to any idea. I'm sure the Romans would of left some YDNA markers that could verify such genetic imprint. There is some but certianly not that large from everything I have seen.

    As for the Ilyrians samples. They are mostly Bronze Age samples from Croatia. Samples from other areas of the Balkans weren't really like Northern Italians anyway. They were more East of Italians. Lets also not forget that they are just Bronze Age samples.

    And yes, I am aware that the Ilyrians went to Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gash View Post
    If you want to believe that the Romans had that much of a genetic impact on the Balkans then be my guest. However there isn't any genetic data that supports this though I am of course open to any idea. I'm sure the Romans would of left some YDNA markers that could verify such genetic imprint. There is some but certianly not that large from everything I have seen.

    As for the Ilyrians samples. They are mostly Bronze Age samples from Croatia. Samples from other areas of the Balkans weren't really like Northern Italians anyway. They were more East of Italians. Lets also not forget that they are just Bronze Age samples.

    And yes, I am aware that the Ilyrians went to Italy.
    Where, precisely, did I say that the Romans had a big genetic impact on the Balkans as a whole? I think I went out of my way to say that this area, this culture, was an exception.

    I "said" that the "Illyrian" sample might have been from just one of the tribes in Illyria.

    What other Balkan samples are in the study? From what I can see, just the "Illyrian" one, and some of the Thracian ones. I get both, and at pretty high levels.
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    Sorry if these results are upsetting to some Albanians, but it is what it is.

    Everyone is going to have to pull up their big boy pants, in every ethnicity, and accept what the genetics shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Did you notice any differences in samples that popped up between the two maps of the separate versions of raw data? For me, AncestryDNA was more substantive.


    I'll edit in the images once I reach ten posts, but aside from minor differences, the maps look fairly similar at first glance. However, the shades of blue do differ somewhat between each sample.

    My biggest question at the moment is why 'Saxon' is completely absent from the ancient populations, despite there being plenty of genetic similarity to other Germanic tribes like the Longobards, Franks and Vandals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Boyer View Post

    I'll edit in the images once I reach ten posts, but aside from minor differences, the maps look fairly similar at first glance. However, the shades of blue do differ somewhat between each sample.

    My biggest question at the moment is why 'Saxon' is completely absent from the ancient populations, despite there being plenty of genetic similarity to other Germanic tribes like the Longobards, Franks and Vandals.
    The Saxons seem to have significant North Germanic and, by extension, 'Finnish' ancestry, so it doesn't surprise me that they wouldn't show a particularly strong affinity to present-day British. I'd think that Orcadians might be an exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
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    Hi Salento.
    How do you do. Cool calculator this puntDNAL. For the first time I could see Brazilian ethnicity. These are my results puntDNAL. First, puntDNAL K15, recommenced by GEDmatch, and second, puntDNAL K12 Modern, this last, choosed by me aleatoric way.




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    @Duarte that’s great. :)

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    Well, it's not good for North/Central Italians, or at least not for me. I've never gotten anything other than North Italian and Tuscan as one and two. Also, where is my similarity to Southern Italians? Is this based on Eurogenes K15? If it is, just more proof of how wrong it is. I am not Albanian, as some of them will no doubt be happy to hear me report. :)

    #Population (source)Distance
    1Albanian4.02
    2Tuscan4.23
    3Italian6.4
    4Greek_Thessaly7.63
    5Greek_Central8.96
    6Montenegrin9.037
    7Portuguese10.71
    8Bulgarian11.01
    9Ashkenazy_Jew11.47
    10Romanian11.51
    11Sicilian12.03
    12Spaniard12.84
    13Brazilian13.43
    14Macedonian13.44
    15Sephardic_Jew15.08
    16Bosnian16.81
    17Basque18.38
    18Serbian19.28
    19French19.56
    20South_German22.66

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    Mine with K12 modern:

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Albanian 6.18
    2 Bulgarian 6.19
    3 Greek 6.21
    4 Tuscan 8.99
    5 Ashkenazi_Jew 11.79
    6 Croatian 12.45
    7 Sicilian_West 13.18
    8 Romanian 13.25
    9 Sicilian_East 13.46
    10 Turkish_Aydin 13.87
    11 Italian_Bergamo 15.13
    12 Belgian 16.43
    13 Dutch_South 16.63
    14 French 17.29
    15 German_South 17.77
    16 Hungarian 17.83
    17 Utahn_European 18.31
    18 Spanish_Southwest 19
    19 Turkish 19.62
    20 Spanish_Canaries 19.96

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 57.9% Belgian + 42.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 1.66
    2 55.4% Spanish_Southwest + 44.6% Chechen @ 1.74
    3 55.2% Utahn_European + 44.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 1.79
    4 63.1% Romanian + 36.9% Turkish_Kayseri @ 1.92
    5 60.6% Spanish_Southwest + 39.4% Lezgin @ 1.96
    6 83.9% Albanian + 16.1% Tajik_Pomiri @ 2
    7 53.2% French + 46.8% Turkish @ 2.08
    8 56% German_South + 44% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.12
    9 62.1% German_South + 37.9% Iranian_Jew @ 2.12
    10 54.5% Belgian + 45.5% Turkish @ 2.21
    11 61.4% Utahn_European + 38.6% Iranian_Jew @ 2.26
    12 59.3% German_South + 40.7% Assyrian @ 2.26
    13 54.2% Spanish_Southwest + 45.8% Kumyk @ 2.26
    14 52.7% English_South + 47.3% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.33
    15 67.6% Romanian + 32.4% Armenian @ 2.33
    16 66.5% Romanian + 33.5% Laz @ 2.41
    17 62.8% Dutch_South + 37.2% Druze @ 2.41
    18 84.2% Greek + 15.8% Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.44
    19 55.2% Spanish_Southwest + 44.8% Adygei @ 2.46
    20 62.9% French + 37.1% Iranian @ 2.47

    Yeah... I don't think so, particularly the 2 population mixing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Interesting. Again in consonance to the study which puts the Roman soldier closer to modern Iberians.

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    I guess puntDNAL K15 is not related to Eurogenes K15.
    K15 is just a reference to the number of clusters.

    My first ten at puntDNAL K15:

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    1 Italian 3.24
    2 Montenegrin 4.51
    3 Romanian 5.36
    4 Bulgarian 5.52
    5 Spaniard 7.15
    6 Macedonian 7.49
    7 Portuguese 7.77
    8 Albanian 9.29
    9 Tuscan 10.75
    10 Greek_Thessaly 10.94

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    1 Italian 3.33
    2 Montenegrin 4.54
    3 Romanian 5.34
    4 Bulgarian 5.51
    5 Spaniard 7.14
    6 Macedonian 7.46
    7 Portuguese 7.8
    8 Albanian 9.37
    9 Tuscan 10.84
    10 Bosnian 10.99

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    1 Montenegrin 3.21
    2 Italian 3.43
    3 Romanian 3.53
    4 Bulgarian 3.87
    5 Macedonian 5.77
    6 Spaniard 8.71
    7 Bosnian 9.08
    8 Albanian 9.29
    9 Portuguese 9.65
    10 Greek_Thessaly 10.23

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    1 Italian 4.78
    2 Montenegrin 5.15
    3 Romanian 5.25
    4 Bulgarian 5.61
    5 Spaniard 6.47
    6 Macedonian 7.11
    7 Portuguese 7.89
    8 French 9.56
    9 Bosnian 10.49
    10 Serbian 10.84

    "Italian" means "North Italian"?

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    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mexican @ 12.475453
    2 Brazilian @ 16.080528
    3 Bulgarian @ 20.927120
    4 Montenegrin @ 21.156204
    5 Albanian @ 21.570024
    6 Macedonian @ 21.632956
    7 Romanian @ 21.672199
    8 Italian @ 21.722408
    9 Greek_Thessaly @ 22.112654
    10 Puerto_Rican @ 22.160589
    11 Bosnian @ 22.578793
    12 Tuscan @ 22.833961
    13 Greek_Central @ 23.180931
    14 Portuguese @ 24.393448
    15 Spaniard @ 24.972433
    16 Serbian @ 25.139980
    17 Colombian_B @ 25.244846
    18 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 25.303316
    19 French @ 26.697556
    20 Sicilian @ 27.072186

    Out of my obvious affinities with Latin American populations, my Italian references appear in 8th place ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by italouruguayan View Post
    puntDNAL K15 4-Ancestors Oracle


    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mexican @ 12.475453
    2 Brazilian @ 16.080528
    3 Bulgarian @ 20.927120
    4 Montenegrin @ 21.156204
    5 Albanian @ 21.570024
    6 Macedonian @ 21.632956
    7 Romanian @ 21.672199
    8 Italian @ 21.722408
    9 Greek_Thessaly @ 22.112654
    10 Puerto_Rican @ 22.160589
    11 Bosnian @ 22.578793
    12 Tuscan @ 22.833961
    13 Greek_Central @ 23.180931
    14 Portuguese @ 24.393448
    15 Spaniard @ 24.972433
    16 Serbian @ 25.139980
    17 Colombian_B @ 25.244846
    18 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 25.303316
    19 French @ 26.697556
    20 Sicilian @ 27.072186

    Out of my obvious affinities with Latin American populations, my Italian references appear in 8th place ....
    I don't think it was created with Europeans in mind, and I don't think it's particularly good for Southern Europeans, at least. It's the only calculator, ever, that didn't give me an Italian population as first choice. Well, there's one other...something Kurd did, but that's because for some inexplicable reason he only used Southern Italians. I think I might have come out Bulgarian on that one, and then Albanian, or the other way around, I don't remember.

    Have you run the Dodecad ones?
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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 17.898823
    2 Romanians_Behar @ 19.177551
    3 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 19.497793
    4 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 19.662922
    5 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 20.216389
    6 TSI30_Metspalu @ 21.445169
    7 North_Italian_HGDP @ 22.148018
    8 Tuscan_HGDP @ 22.196404
    9 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 22.411747
    10 Greek_Dodecad @ 24.458960
    11 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 24.975294
    12 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 25.034306
    13 Hungarians_Behar @ 25.313700
    14 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 25.327185
    15 French_Dodecad @ 25.372885
    16 French_HGDP @ 25.603655
    17 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 25.726482
    18 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 26.093929
    19 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.091309
    20 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.183168

    Dodecad V3 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Tuscan_Xing @ 17.232601
    2 Tuscan_Henn @ 17.745371
    3 TSI_HapMap @ 18.480227
    4 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 21.444227
    5 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 21.806314
    6 Slovenian_Xing @ 21.924429
    7 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 22.296892
    8 Romanians_14_Behar @ 22.372116
    9 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 23.043327
    10 Hungarians_Behar @ 23.765650
    11 Balkans_Dodecad @ 24.508427
    12 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 25.065321
    13 Tuscan_HGDP @ 25.422903
    14 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 25.914598
    15 North_Italian_HGDP @ 26.588444
    16 French_HGDP @ 27.245493
    17 French_Dodecad @ 27.256750
    18 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 27.760830
    19 IBS_1000Genomes @ 27.998789
    20 CEU_HapMap @ 28.124374


    Dodecad K7b 4-Ancestors Oracle



    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 14.722487
    2 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 14.871604
    3 Romanians_Behar @ 14.879505
    4 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 15.128819
    5 Tuscan_HGDP @ 16.245222
    6 TSI30_Metspalu @ 16.583483
    7 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 16.764202
    8 North_Italian_HGDP @ 17.530367
    9 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 19.230648
    10 Greek_Dodecad @ 20.025442
    11 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 20.852360
    12 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 21.262768
    13 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 21.364807
    14 Murcia_1000Genomes @ 21.449854
    15 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 21.452345
    16 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 21.913164
    17 Andalucia_1000Genomes @ 21.981537
    18 Spaniards_Behar @ 22.892649
    19 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes @ 23.362490
    20 Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes @ 23.776316

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    Quote Originally Posted by markod View Post
    The Saxons seem to have significant North Germanic and, by extension, 'Finnish' ancestry, so it doesn't surprise me that they wouldn't show a particularly strong affinity to present-day British. I'd think that Orcadians might be an exception.
    Mine seems to be all over the map regarding the different DNA sampling companies. I show up heavily as north atlantic/orcadian/west norwegian and now longobard/saxon. I think it confuses me more than anything.












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    Quote Originally Posted by markod View Post
    The Saxons seem to have significant North Germanic and, by extension, 'Finnish' ancestry, so it doesn't surprise me that they wouldn't show a particularly strong affinity to present-day British. I'd think that Orcadians might be an exception.
    I'm a Frank-Saxon and have a 2.9 distance to the ancient Longobard-Frank samples. My most close relation to present populations is Northern German and Southern Dutch, which is correct related to my documented tree. My third and fourth present population relation on MyTrueAncestry are both English and I'm not aware of any English ancestor. So I would say Saxon is implied in Longobard and the present English population has - as generally accepted - a lot of Saxon ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Polman View Post
    I'm a Frank-Saxon and have a 2.9 distance to the ancient Longobard-Frank samples. My most close relation to present populations is Northern German and Southern Dutch, which is correct related to my documented tree. My third and fourth present population relation on MyTrueAncestry are both English and I'm not aware of any English ancestor. So I would say Saxon is implied in Longobard and the present English population has - as generally accepted - a lot of Saxon ancestry.
    I was talking about the ancient Saxon samples. You're not going to be very close to them unless you have lots of Norwegian or Western Finnish ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italouruguayan View Post
    Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 17.898823
    2 Romanians_Behar @ 19.177551
    3 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 19.497793
    4 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 19.662922
    5 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 20.216389
    6 TSI30_Metspalu @ 21.445169
    7 North_Italian_HGDP @ 22.148018
    8 Tuscan_HGDP @ 22.196404
    9 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 22.411747
    10 Greek_Dodecad @ 24.458960
    11 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 24.975294
    12 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 25.034306
    13 Hungarians_Behar @ 25.313700
    14 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 25.327185
    15 French_Dodecad @ 25.372885
    16 French_HGDP @ 25.603655
    17 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 25.726482
    18 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 26.093929
    19 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.091309
    20 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.183168

    Dodecad V3 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Tuscan_Xing @ 17.232601
    2 Tuscan_Henn @ 17.745371
    3 TSI_HapMap @ 18.480227
    4 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 21.444227
    5 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 21.806314
    6 Slovenian_Xing @ 21.924429
    7 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 22.296892
    8 Romanians_14_Behar @ 22.372116
    9 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 23.043327
    10 Hungarians_Behar @ 23.765650
    11 Balkans_Dodecad @ 24.508427
    12 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 25.065321
    13 Tuscan_HGDP @ 25.422903
    14 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 25.914598
    15 North_Italian_HGDP @ 26.588444
    16 French_HGDP @ 27.245493
    17 French_Dodecad @ 27.256750
    18 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 27.760830
    19 IBS_1000Genomes @ 27.998789
    20 CEU_HapMap @ 28.124374


    Dodecad K7b 4-Ancestors Oracle



    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 14.722487
    2 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 14.871604
    3 Romanians_Behar @ 14.879505
    4 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 15.128819
    5 Tuscan_HGDP @ 16.245222
    6 TSI30_Metspalu @ 16.583483
    7 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 16.764202
    8 North_Italian_HGDP @ 17.530367
    9 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 19.230648
    10 Greek_Dodecad @ 20.025442
    11 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 20.852360
    12 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 21.262768
    13 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 21.364807
    14 Murcia_1000Genomes @ 21.449854
    15 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 21.452345
    16 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 21.913164
    17 Andalucia_1000Genomes @ 21.981537
    18 Spaniards_Behar @ 22.892649
    19 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes @ 23.362490
    20 Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes @ 23.776316
    Distant fits, as to be expected given that you have mixed ancestry, but at least your ancestral populations show up. As always, if you have Southern European ancestry, he finds it. Pity he never updated them.

    I've forgotten, did he have Amerindian admixed reference samples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markod View Post
    I was talking about the ancient Saxon samples. You're not going to be very close to them unless you have lots of Norwegian or Western Finnish ancestry.
    Generally, when we are talking about Saxons and Old Saxony (see e.g. Wikipedia for both terms), it's about Northern Germany. No mention of Norway, Sweden or Finland. So what ancient samples of Saxons does MyTrueAncestry use?

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