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  1. #2251
    Regular Member Salento's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 - SK1480
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H12a

    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: United States

    ... from above.

    All connected at the same position:

    R850 and R437 (Latins), CL36 (Italian ... ), CL25 (Calabrese), ;) R436 (Paisà) Imperial Romans, Medieval and Renaissance Italians, a Cretan, a Minoan and a Mycenaean.

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    Ethnic group
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    Country: USA - New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... from above.

    All connected at the same position:

    R850 and R437 (Latins), CL36 (Italian ... ), CL25 (Calabrese), ;) R436 (Paisà) Imperial Romans, Medieval and Renaissance Italians, a Cretan, a Minoan and a Mycenaean.
    You're right. This is ancient ancestry in Europe.

    I have to look at my new results and see if there are major changes in the closest matches.


    Non si fa il proprio dovere perchè qualcuno ci dica grazie, lo si fa per principio, per se stessi, per la propria dignità. Oriana Fallaci

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-V22/YF66572
    MtDNA haplogroup
    J1c5c1

    Country: Spain

    Greek imprint colony
















    (For us, northern Spain is from Galicia to the Basque Country, then there is the Northeastthat we don't perceive it well as the north)
    It seems that the sample stands out in northern Spain. It seems that the sample stands out in northern Spain. Can you see who could give logistics and even a human contingent to the Greeks to establish a colony on the coast? Also highlight in similar samples the result with the Kingdom of Tartessos. Also highlight in similar samples the result with the Kingdom of Tartessos. Even today, when a country sets up a factory in another country, very few natives of origin move to the factory abroad compared to the vast majority of workers who will be of origin if we move it to a hostile territory where the first carelessness the natives are going to cut your neck and they will destroy because it is possible that the Greeks delegated to others and not even if they lived in the colony or perhaps intermittently and sporadically as a form of supervision so as not to lose control. Ohh the ancient Greek blood agenda fades in the current area to justify small economic successes of the present.

    Another sample of Ampurias of time with Greek imprint:















    A sample of Northern Europe. It could be a mercenary a prisoner e.t.c. placed in the colony by the Greeks.

    It seems that in the Roman era there is already a more relaxed flow of locals and neighboring tribes in the colony, perhaps due to the commerce and attraction of the neighbors by the system somewhat more free than the Greek more hermetic and based on panic and without presence. It is the impression it gives me.

    6. Roman-Era Empuries (47 BC) ..... 9.529
    - I10866 -
    mtDNA: K1b2a

    Visigoth + Iberian (5.889)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (6.976)
    Visigoth + Vascones (7.081)
    Visigoth (7.744)
    Vascones + Etruscan (7.898)
    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (8.884)
    Gallo-Roman (10.28)
    Vascones (10.38)
    Etruscan (11.34)
    Iberian (11.35)

    1. Spanish_Cantabria (7.962)
    2. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.821)
    3. Spanish_Aragon (8.964)
    4. Spanish_Cataluna (9.319)
    5. Southwest_French (9.464)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (9.653)
    7. Spanish_Murcia (10.35)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (10.72)

    Similar Samples
    Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (880 AD) (5.536)
    Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (7.744)
    High Status Male Haunstetten (2059 BC) (8.079)
    Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) (8.707)
    Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) (8.789)

    12. Late Roman-Era Emporion (550 AD) ..... 11.18 - I8343 -

    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (7.714)
    Iberian (7.891)
    Visigoth + Iberian (8.14)
    Vascones + Etruscan (9.039)
    Iberian + Vascones (9.157)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (9.258)
    Gallo-Roman (10.57)
    Visigoth (11.33)
    Vascones (12.16)
    Etruscan (13.29)

    Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) (7.891)
    Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (880 AD) (8.834)
    Greco-Era Emporion (450 BC) (9.533)
    Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) (9.574)
    Nazari Period Andalusia (1400 AD) (9.627)

    mtDNA: J1c2c2

    Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2


    42. Roman-Carthago Mix Empuries (150 AD) ..... 13.63 - I8475

    Iberian + Roman Hispania (5.384)
    Iberian + Carthaginian (6.127)
    Iberian + Illyrian (7.206)
    Roman Hispania + Etruscan (7.413)
    Etruscan + Carthaginian (7.751)
    Etruscan (9.162)
    Roman Hispania (10.74)
    Iberian (11.39)
    Carthaginian (12.78)
    Illyrian (14.37)

    mtDNA: T2b

    1. Spanish_Aragon (7.172)
    2. Spanish_Andalucia (8.555)
    3. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (8.745)
    4. Spanish_Valencia (8.836)
    5. Southwest_French (10.51)
    6. Spanish_Cantabria (11.03)
    7. Spanish_Murcia (12.18)
    8. French_Basque (12.19)

    Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) (6.965)
    Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) (7.529)
    Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) (8.966)
    Post-Reconquista Granada (1550 AD) (9.05)
    Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (9.162)

    69. Roman Era Empuries (80 AD) ..... 14.63 - I8339 -
    mtDNA: K1a+195

    Iberian + Latin (1.346)
    Iberian + Vascones (2.604)
    Vascones + Latin (3.867)
    Visigoth + Iberian (3.958)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (4.22)
    Iberian (4.773)
    Latin (4.845)
    Vascones (5.475)
    Gallo-Roman (9.462)
    Visigoth (9.891)

    Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) (2.886)
    Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) (4.106)
    Vasconic Tribe Empuries (375 BC) (4.17)
    Roman-Era Emporion (200 AD) (4.198)
    Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (280 BC) (4.773)

    1. French_Basque (13.90)
    2. Spanish_Basque (13.96)
    3. Spanish_Cantabria (14.55)
    4. Spanish_Aragon (15.25)
    5. Southwest_French (15.68)
    6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (16.94)
    7. Spanish_Cataluna (17.83)
    8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (18.05)


    Last edited by Carlos; 25-02-20 at 21:44.

  4. #2254
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    Country: Spain - Madrid

    Hi,
    It is funny the way same countries match same ancestors? Mine coincides almost 99% to yours. I am not surprised being form Spain as well. So my guess, even though informative, is that mytrueancestry does not add relevant info about you.
    Regards!!!

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    Regular Member Carlos's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-V22/YF66572
    MtDNA haplogroup
    J1c5c1

    Country: Spain

    Quote Originally Posted by Corocota79 View Post
    Hi,
    It is funny the way same countries match same ancestors? Mine coincides almost 99% to yours. I am not surprised being form Spain as well. So my guess, even though informative, is that mytrueancestry does not add relevant info about you.
    Regards!!!
    Hi. If we usually coincide with the same ancestors it seems that Spain is very homogeneous. If you can publish your results.

    My new results of the last weeks are these:

    4. Gallo-Roman Lombard Grave (580 AD) ..... 9.106
    - CL94
    Gaul + Gallo-Roman (3.788)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (3.989)
    Gaul + Etruscan (4.011)
    Thracian + Illyrian (4.612)
    Gaul + Thracian (5.328)
    Gallo-Roman (7.032)
    Illyrian (7.332)
    Thracian (9.441)
    Gaul (10.21)
    Etruscan (11.04)

    6. Roman-Era Empuries (47 BC) ..... 9.529 - I10866
    Visigoth + Iberian (5.889)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (6.976)
    Visigoth + Vascones (7.081)
    Visigoth (7.744)
    Vascones + Etruscan (7.898)
    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (8.884)
    Gallo-Roman (10.28)
    Vascones (10.38)
    Etruscan (11.34)
    Iberian (11.35)

    12. Late Roman-Era Emporion (550 AD) ..... 11.18 - I8343 -
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (7.714)
    Iberian (7.891)
    Visigoth + Iberian (8.14)
    Vascones + Etruscan (9.039)
    Iberian + Vascones (9.157)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (9.258)
    Gallo-Roman (10.57)
    Visigoth (11.33)
    Vascones (12.16)
    Etruscan (13.29)

    23. Vatya Bronze Age Hungary (1750 BC) ..... 12.12 - Rise483
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (3.901)
    Etruscan (4.011)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (4.615)
    Iberian + Etruscan (4.616)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (4.818)
    Latin + Etruscan (4.864)
    Gallo-Roman (5.476)
    Visigoth (6.774)
    Iberian (7.752)
    Latin (10.29)

    28. Bronze Age Vatya Pannonia (1600 BC) ..... 12.36 - Rise480
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (6.364)
    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (6.768)
    Etruscan (6.781)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (6.874)
    Iberian + Illyrian (6.946)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (7.381)
    Gallo-Roman (7.545)
    Visigoth (8.005)
    Iberian (11.65)
    Illyrian (12.07)

    30. Carolingian Settlement Barcelona (790 AD) ..... 12.58 - I7676
    Visigoth + Iberian (7.397)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (7.465)
    Visigoth + Vascones (8.252)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (8.292)
    Iberian + Vascones (8.541)
    Vascones (9.607)
    Iberian (9.733)
    Gallo-Roman (10.11)
    Visigoth (10.49)
    Latin (13.15)

    36. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 13.4 - CL47b
    Frank (Genetic match)

    42. Roman-Carthago Mix Empuries (150 AD) ..... 13.63 - I8475 -
    Iberian + Roman Hispania (5.384)
    Iberian + Carthaginian (6.127)
    Iberian + Illyrian (7.206)
    Roman Hispania + Etruscan (7.413)
    Etruscan + Carthaginian (7.751)
    Etruscan (9.162)
    Roman Hispania (10.74)
    Iberian (11.39)
    Carthaginian (12.78)
    Illyrian (14.37)

    49. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ28 -
    Gallo-Roman (Genetic match)

    59. Nazari Period Andalusia (1400 AD) ..... 14.41 - I8145
    Visigoth + Iberian (14.6)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (14.73)
    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (15.01)
    Visigoth + Vascones (15.06)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (15.12)
    Visigoth (15.28)
    Gallo-Roman (15.37)
    Iberian (16.62)
    Vascones (16.83)
    Latin (16.92)

    69. Roman Era Empuries (80 AD) ..... 14.63 - I8339 -
    Iberian + Latin (1.346)
    Iberian + Vascones (2.604)
    Vascones + Latin (3.867)
    Visigoth + Iberian (3.958)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (4.22)
    Iberian (4.773)
    Latin (4.845)
    Vascones (5.475)
    Gallo-Roman (9.462)
    Visigoth (9.891)

    74. Basque Post-Roman Era Barcelona (650 AD) ..... 14.73 - I3777
    Vascones (Genetic match)

    78. Roman-Era Emporion (200 AD) ..... 14.94 - I8202
    Vascones + Latin (2.513)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (3.53)
    Iberian + Latin (3.907)
    Iberian (4.383)
    Iberian + Vascones (4.519)
    Visigoth + Iberian (4.85)
    Latin (7.567)
    Vascones (7.798)
    Gallo-Roman (9.078)
    Visigoth (10.82)

    85. Vasconic Greco-Era Empuries (425 BC) ..... 15.38
    - I8209 -
    Vascones + Latin (3.309)
    Celtiberian + Latin (3.797)
    Vascones (4.275)
    Visigoth + Celtiberian (5.128)
    Vascones + Celtiberian (5.511)
    Iberian + Vascones (5.698)
    Latin (5.831)
    Iberian (9.266)
    Celtiberian (10.07)
    Visigoth (10.92)

    86. Portugal Middle Bronze Age (1580 BC) ..... 15.48 - TV3831
    Iberian + Latin (3.747)
    Iberian (4.906)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (5.66)
    Iberian + Etruscan (6.433)
    Vascones + Latin (7.064)
    Vascones + Etruscan (7.741)
    Latin (11.23)
    Etruscan (11.37)
    Gallo-Roman (11.42)
    Vascones (11.67)

    87. Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 15.54 - I7497 -
    Iberian + Roman Hispania (8.183)
    Iberian + Al-Andalus (9.316)
    Visigoth + Roman Hispania (10.42)
    Roman Hispania + Etruscan (11.24)
    Roman Hispania (12.03)
    Iberian + Etruscan (12.57)
    Iberian (13.28)
    Etruscan (14.05)
    Al-Andalus (14.45)
    Visigoth (15.27)

    88. Portugal Middle Bronze Age (1580 BC) ..... 15.56 - ValeOuro10207
    Iberian (4.42)
    Celtiberian + Latin (4.982)
    Iberian + Latin (5.339)
    Iberian + Vascones (5.882)
    Iberian + Celtiberian (6.414)
    Vascones + Latin (6.499)
    Vascones (9.65)
    Latin (10.84)
    Celtiberian (11.22)
    Gallo-Roman (12.5)

    90. Vasconic Tribe Empuries (375 BC) ..... 15.68
    - I8214
    Vascones + Latin (2.241)
    Celtiberian + Latin (3.849)
    Vascones (3.872)
    Latin (4.092)
    Iberian + Latin (4.391)
    Iberian + Vascones (4.487)
    Visigoth + Celtiberian (5.939)
    Iberian (8.028)
    Visigoth (10.92)
    Celtiberian (10.93)

    92. Carolingian Settlement Barcelona (790 AD) ..... 15.77 - I7673 -
    Vascones + Celtiberian (2.253)
    Iberian + Celtiberian (3.263)
    Celt + Iberian (3.488)
    Vascones (3.635)
    Iberian + Vascones (3.898)
    Celt + Celtiberian (5.4)
    Celtiberian (6.421)
    Iberian (8.163)
    Celt (11.09)
    Latin (11.15)

    106. Post-Reconquista Granada (1550 AD) ..... 16.58 - I7425
    Roman Hispania + Illyrian (5.968)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (7.512)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (8.013)
    Al-Andalus + Roman Hispania (8.252)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (8.778)
    Roman Hispania (9.593)
    Roman (11.46)
    Illyrian (11.6)
    Gallo-Roman (13.22)
    Al-Andalus (14.51)

    114. Post-Reconquista Granada (1550 AD) ..... 16.77 - I3809
    Iberian + Roman Hispania (8.691)
    Vascones + Roman Hispania (9.473)
    Vascones + Etruscan (12.87)
    Visigoth + Roman Hispania (12.99)
    Iberian + Etruscan (13.08)
    Iberian (13.76)
    Roman Hispania (14.77)
    Etruscan (15.62)
    Vascones (15.76)
    Visigoth (16.74)

    116. Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457
    Etruscan + Carthaginian (4.655)
    Illyrian + Carthaginian (4.929)
    Roman Hispania + Etruscan (5.513)
    Al-Andalus + Carthaginian (5.888)
    Roman Hispania + Carthaginian (7.096)
    Carthaginian (9.024)
    Etruscan (9.525)
    Roman Hispania (10.04)
    Al-Andalus (12.08)
    Illyrian (14.9)

    119. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 17.02 - SZ45
    Gaul (Genetic match)

    130. Pre-Roman Ullastret Girona (280 BC) ..... 17.5 - I3324
    Gallo-Roman + Latin (6.06)
    Latin (6.613)
    Visigoth + Latin (7.263)
    Latin + Etruscan (7.349)
    Iberian + Latin (8.189)
    Gallo-Roman (8.439)
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (9.689)
    Etruscan (11.79)
    Iberian (12.27)
    Visigoth (12.33)


    135. Carolingian Settlement Barcelona (790 AD) ..... 17.66 - I7672
    Gallo-Roman + Frank (14.1)
    Al-Andalus + Frank (14.17)
    Visigoth + Frank (14.34)
    Frank + Illyrian (14.84)
    Visigoth + Illyrian (15.52)
    Illyrian (16.09)
    Frank (16.24)
    Gallo-Roman (17.38)
    Visigoth (18.13)
    Al-Andalus (18.31)

    137. Greco-Era Emporion (450 BC) ..... 17.76 - I8213
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (8.526)
    Iberian (9.044)
    Iberian + Vascones (9.409)
    Iberian + Celtiberian (9.711)
    Iberian + Etruscan (10.03)
    Celtiberian + Etruscan (10.77)
    Vascones (14.0)
    Celtiberian (14.26)
    Gallo-Roman (17.29)
    Etruscan (17.55)

    138. Roman-Era Empuries (200 BC) ..... 17.78 - I8203 -
    Latin (6.001)
    Gallo-Roman + Latin (7.678)
    Visigoth + Latin (8.338)
    Vascones + Latin (8.459)
    Iberian + Latin (9.35)
    Visigoth + Iberian (9.451)
    Gallo-Roman (10.88)
    Vascones (11.34)
    Visigoth (12.1)
    Iberian (13.1)

    141. North Central Lombard (580 AD) ..... 17.94 - CL63
    Frank (Genetic match)

    142. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 18.08 - Rise577
    Celt + Frank (4.344)
    Saxon + Frank (4.503)
    Visigoth + Celt (4.913)
    Celt + Saxon (5.506)
    Visigoth + Saxon (5.669)
    Celt (5.888)
    Saxon (7.131)
    Frank (9.487)
    Visigoth (10.27)
    Vandal (10.71)

    147. Carolingian Settlement Barcelona (790 AD) ..... 18.36 - I7675
    Celtiberian + Latin (5.514)
    Iberian + Latin (5.787)
    Latin (5.824)
    Vascones + Latin (6.572)
    Iberian + Vascones (7.438)
    Celtiberian + Gallo-Roman (7.887)
    Vascones (8.611)
    Iberian (8.701)
    Celtiberian (11.55)
    Gallo-Roman (13.59)

    153. Portugal Middle Bronze Age (1580 BC) ..... 18.59 - MonteGato104 -
    Latin (4.49)
    Iberian + Latin (5.451)
    Gallo-Roman + Latin (6.715)
    Latin + Etruscan (7.706)
    Iberian + Etruscan (8.507)
    Visigoth + Latin (8.541)
    Iberian (10.52)
    Gallo-Roman (11.42)
    Etruscan (12.36)
    Visigoth (15.11)

    164. Post-Roman Era Barcelona (650 AD) ..... 18.96 - I3776 -
    Visigoth + Iberian (18.73)
    Iberian + Illyrian (19.31)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (19.36)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (19.44)
    Vascones + Illyrian (19.45)

    165. Hungary Elite Avar Kiskoros-Vaghohid (690 AD) ..... 18.96 - KVper3450_GE
    Etruscan + Ostrogoth (11.31)
    Ostrogoth + Thracian (11.92)
    Gallo-Roman + Ostrogoth (11.95)
    Visigoth + Ostrogoth (13.14)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (15.36)
    Gallo-Roman (16.24)
    Ostrogoth (16.32)
    Visigoth (16.81)
    Etruscan (17.06)
    Thracian (18.55)

    168. Late-Roman Era Montefrio Granada (500 AD) ..... 19.01 - I3577
    Roman Hispania + Latin (11.57)
    Etruscan + Thracian (12.59)
    Roman Hispania + Etruscan (12.7)
    Etruscan (13.27)
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (13.34)
    Gallo-Roman + Latin (13.66)
    Gallo-Roman (15.61)
    Thracian (16.17)
    Latin (17.54)
    Roman Hispania (18.65)

    172. Vatya Bronze Age Hungary (1750 BC) ..... 19.28 - Rise484 -
    Celt + Vascones (5.989)
    Vascones (6.974)
    Celt (6.977)
    Celt + Iberian (7.36)
    Celt + Celtiberian (9.395)
    Iberian + Vascones (9.886)
    Vascones + Celtiberian (10.28)
    Iberian (13.62)
    Celtiberian (15.29)
    Visigoth (18.17)

    173. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 19.38 - DA199
    Visigoth + Scythian (7.286)
    Gaul + Frank (7.499)
    Scythian + Frank (7.881)
    Visigoth + Gaul (8.046)
    Gaul (8.442)
    Scythian + Gaul (8.861)
    Frank (10.11)
    Visigoth (11.25)
    Thuringii (12.28)
    Scythian (12.85)

    174. Late-Roman Era Montefrio Granada (500 AD) ..... 19.47 - I3574
    Iberian + Celtiberian (3.03)
    Iberian + Vascones (5.035)
    Celtiberian (5.763)
    Iberian + Latin (6.233)
    Vascones + Celtiberian (6.436)
    Celt + Iberian (7.635)
    Iberian (8.195)
    Vascones (9.363)
    Latin (15.44)
    Celt (16.88)

    182. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 19.91 - CL36
    Roman (Genetic match)

    184. Swiss Germanic (580 AD) ..... 19.97 - CL102
    Scythian + Frank (3.971)
    Gaul + Frank (4.406)
    Visigoth + Gaul (4.755)
    Scythian + Gaul (5.461)
    Visigoth + Scythian (5.971)
    Gaul (7.131)
    Frank (7.131)
    Visigoth (8.093)
    Scythian (10.2)
    Thuringii (11.42)

    186. Greco-Era Emporion (375 BC) ..... 19.98 - I8210
    Alemanni + Latin (1.783)
    Alemanni + Gallo-Roman (5.908)
    Visigoth + Alemanni (8.023)
    Visigoth + Latin (9.727)
    Latin + Frank (9.774)
    Latin (9.813)
    Gallo-Roman (13.84)
    Frank (14.69)
    Visigoth (14.76)
    Alemanni (15.05)

    187. Late-Roman Era Montefrio Granada (500 AD) ..... 20.25 - I3582
    Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

    190. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford (1002 AD) ..... 20.6 - V4P
    Celt + Ostrogoth (7.152)
    Ostrogoth + Frank (8.854)
    Saxon + Frank (8.901)
    Celt + Frank (9.259)
    Viking Danish + Celt (9.308)
    Viking Danish (11.07)
    Saxon (11.3)
    Ostrogoth (11.69)
    Celt (12.07)
    Frank (12.91)

    196. Nazari Period Andalusia (1400 AD) ..... 20.86 - I8147
    Latin + Thracian (11.68)
    Latin + Etruscan (13.73)
    Latin (14.15)
    Gallo-Roman + Latin (14.18)
    Etruscan + Thracian (14.28)
    Latin + Illyrian (14.63)
    Thracian (15.77)
    Etruscan (16.72)
    Gallo-Roman (17.87)


    ​Of those who say they have remained in the bronze without intervening in the subsequent historical events of the Iberian Peninsula or as it says in the Iberia papers that have not been "affected" - term that I believe should change in the text - and for supposedly being so isolated it seems that they were the ones who gave logistics to all the invaders that were happening in Iberia and added that perhaps their territory was not attractive to the invaders at the level of agricultural exploitation were saving it in some way. This has made me remember when the Germans were installed in southern France and began to make excursions to the Spanish Basque country apparently innocently by making video and telling how well they eat when their plans were to reach Galicia and invade northern Spain to go down later maybe the Nazis were feeling the lump and thinking about it since they knew how Napoleon had ended up in Spain but if we take into account that after the march of the Germans the Basques contacted the Germans looking to be a protectorate because in at that time it was believed that they would win the war could very well be the same modus operandis with the previous historical invaders.

    In conclusion about the invasions and colonies it can be seen that the Greeks at the genetic level nothing at all, it looks more Hispanic-Roman, Hispanic-godo, the vascones are an important footprint in the general genetic heritage and in Muslim times they are seen More Islamisted natives and what appears is a stroke of Carthaginian even before Al-Andalus that has remained nothing if we consider the expulsions, the reconquest and the repopulation.

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    I hadn't realized that I had it

    117. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 16.97
    - R1

    Roman + Illyrian (3.087)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (3.926)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.552)
    Gallo-Roman (5.829)
    Gaul + Roman (5.895)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (6.222)
    Roman (7.154)
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    Roman Hispania (12.19)
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    117 Samples

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    @Carlos ... I get a Soldier of God (Soldado de Dios) right after R1




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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    I hadn't realized that I had it

    117. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 16.97
    - R1

    Roman + Illyrian (3.087)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (3.926)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.552)
    Gallo-Roman (5.829)
    Gaul + Roman (5.895)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (6.222)
    Roman (7.154)
    Illyrian (7.43)
    Roman Hispania (12.19)
    Gaul (13.73)






    117 Samples
    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Carlos ... I get a Soldier of God (Soldado de Dios) right after R1



    @Salento @Carlos
    I can't deny that MTA continues still a very cool genetics' website. It doesn't lose its charm and the graphics are quite cool. Save the soldiers of God ;)






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    After R1 I get:

    117. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 16.97 - R1 -

    Roman + Illyrian (3.087)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (3.926)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.552)
    Gallo-Roman (5.829)
    Gaul + Roman (5.895)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (6.222)
    Roman (7.154)
    Illyrian (7.43)
    Roman Hispania (12.19)
    Gaul (13.73)

    118. Ilercavones Catalan (200 BC) ..... 17.01 - I3321 -

    Iberian + Latin (3.496)
    Vascones + Latin (6.35)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (6.978)
    Iberian + Etruscan (7.048)
    Iberian (8.069)
    Gallo-Roman + Latin (8.453)
    Latin (8.519)
    Gallo-Roman (11.43)
    Etruscan (13.29)
    Vascones (13.56)
    Similar Samples
    Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (3.103)
    Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) (3.976)
    Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (4.541)
    Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) (5.142)
    Portugal Middle Bronze Age (1580 BC) (5.315)

    119. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 17.02 - SZ45 -
    Gaul (Genetic match)

    The soldier of God I have it here:

    63. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55
    - I12514 -
    Al-Andalus + Illyrian (5.302)
    Al-Andalus (6.84)
    Roman Hispania + Illyrian (7.107)
    Al-Andalus + Gallo-Roman (7.148)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (7.614)
    Roman Hispania + Etruscan (7.653)
    Illyrian (7.879)
    Gallo-Roman (10.8)
    Etruscan (11.71)
    Roman Hispania (12.26)

    64. Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 AD) ..... 14.55 - PCA36 - ?
    Visigoth + Celt (6.454)
    Celt + Frank (6.634)
    Celt + Ostrogoth (6.752)
    Visigoth + Saxon (7.21)
    Celt + Saxon (8.429)
    Frank (10.3)
    Ostrogoth (12.18)
    Saxon (12.61)
    Visigoth (12.74)
    Celt (13.01)

    65. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.59 - I2649
    Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (5.732)
    Roman Hispania + Illyrian (6.705)
    Roman Hispania + Thracian (7.22)
    Gaul + Roman Hispania (7.536)
    Gaul + Illyrian (7.768)
    Illyrian (7.896)
    Gallo-Roman (10.71)
    Thracian (12.28)
    Roman Hispania (12.55)
    Gaul (13.7)

    66. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.59 - I3758 -
    Vascones (Genetic match)

    67. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.61 - SI-40 -
    Crusader (Genetic match)

    68. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.62 - I7498 -
    Al-Andalus (Genetic match)

    69. Roman Era Empuries (80 AD) ..... 14.63 - I8339 -
    Iberian + Latin (1.346)
    Iberian + Vascones (2.604)
    Vascones + Latin (3.867)
    Visigoth + Iberian (3.958)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (4.22)
    Iberian (4.773)
    Latin (4.845)
    Vascones (5.475)
    Gallo-Roman (9.462)
    Visigoth (9.891)

    70. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.64 - I12515 -
    Roman Hispania + Illyrian (5.027)
    Al-Andalus + Roman (5.785)
    Al-Andalus + Illyrian (5.785)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (6.428)
    Al-Andalus + Roman Hispania (6.902)
    Al-Andalus (7.786)
    Illyrian (8.347)
    Roman Hispania (9.608)
    Gallo-Roman (11.09)
    Roman (11.35)

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    @Carlos @Duarte

    The Soldier of God is obviously “mi Abuelo” ... lol :)

    Dod K12 (Ancestry-R-Data):


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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If I understood correctly, you share with R1, proto-Villanovan (930 BC) 106 segments, the largest being 250.24 cM !? So I think he may be a brother or one of your parents who died about 3000 years ago, but you have survived the time so far! 20 out of 22 chromosomes are smaller than 250 cM. So the whole chromosome 1 or 2 is practically inherited unchanged even after about 3000 years? Are you of unparalleled longevity? lol... How did this happen?!
    You misunderstood :) those are NOT my results!

    At the top, it says R1.

    That’s R1 DNA,
    That’s R1 Kit,
    Those are R1 results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Oh, thank you. I almost panicked for such a result :). However why doesn't R1 share 100% of the DNA with himself, on all his 22 chromosomes (22 segments) ?
    fyi ... R1 is a Girl :)

    ‘cause the “Combined R1 raw-data” (provided by Jovialis) that I uploaded to MTA, is slightly different than the R1 raw-data processed by MTA,

    I could have loaded the R1 AncestryDNA format raw-data If I wanted to.

    The deep dive results also show R1 chromosomes affinities with the other Samples in the MTA database.

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    Outliers R1


    My outliers

    115. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 16.78 - scy304 -
    Top
    98 %
    match vs all users


    129. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen (950 AD) ..... 17.48 - KT09 - ?
    Top
    68 %
    match vs all users


    159. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 18.8 - I12645 -
    Top
    94 %
    match vs all users


    164. Post-Roman Era Barcelona (650 AD) ..... 18.96 - I3776 -
    Top
    99 %
    match vs all users


    171. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2273 BC) ..... 19.28 - UNTA85_1343 -
    Top
    41 %
    match vs all users


    176. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 19.58 - 6DRIF-22 -
    Top
    37 %
    match vs all users


    177. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 -
    Top
    33 %
    match vs all users


    179. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.79 - I2647
    Top
    91 %
    match vs all users


    181. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 19.89 - AED_1108 -
    Top
    34 %
    match vs all users


    182. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 19.91 - CL36 - ?
    Top
    84 %
    match vs all users


    184. Swiss Germanic (580 AD) ..... 19.97 - CL102 - ?
    Top
    31 %
    match vs all users


    187. Late-Roman Era Montefrio Granada (500 AD) ..... 20.25 - I3582 -
    Top
    91 %
    match vs all users


    188. Immigrant Medieval Denmark (1305 AD) ..... 20.28 - G274 -
    Top
    99 %
    match vs all users


    193. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 20.68 - I2458 -
    Top
    38 %
    match vs all users


    194. Medieval Tyrolian (580 AD) ..... 20.72 - CL53 -
    Top
    30 %
    match vs all users


    195. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.74 - I12162 -
    Top
    33 %
    match vs all users


    196. Nazari Period Andalusia (1400 AD) ..... 20.86 - I8147 -
    Top
    99 %
    match vs all users


    198. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 21.0 - R121 -
    Top
    96 %
    match vs all users


    199. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) ..... 21.04 - I12642 -
    Top
    99 %
    match vs all users


    200. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 21.1 - ATP9 -
    Top
    99 %
    match vs all users

    My wife was there for the year .... buf, I don't even remember ...

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    MTA adds a symbol to show the Gender of the samples.

    Male Sign:

    Female Sign:

    for example:






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    Salento/Carlos. I may have asked this before. To get analysis done on 200 ancient samples at MyTrueAncestry, is that the Zeus level? Very interesting results for both of you.

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    ... at times, confusing:
    (Prenestini, Palestrina, Praeneste)

    The ancient name of Palestrina is Præneste.

    R437
    (Latin Prenestini Tribe) 300 BC

    R436 (Roman Imperial Palestrina) 100 AD

    Culture Latin

    Praeneste (Palestrina), located south of Rome, was one of the largest ancient cities in Iron Age Latium. It was home to the Praenesti tribe ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Salento/Carlos. I may have asked this before. To get analysis done on 200 ancient samples at MyTrueAncestry, is that the Zeus level? Very interesting results for both of you.
    I have the regular Zeus, the limit is 100 samples.

    Carlos level is much more advanced than mine, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I have the regular Zeus, the limit is 100 samples.

    Carlos level is much more advanced than mine, I think.
    Ok, so there is a Zeus and magna Zeus. Yours allows for 100, Carlos it looks like running his DNA against 200 samples.

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    @Palermo Trapani:






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    Thanks, bought Ceasar and stopped and never really went that far beyond it. Watching all you "Zeus guys" is tempting me to upgrade. MyTrueancestry should give all of you a commission!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Salento/Carlos. I may have asked this before. To get analysis done on 200 ancient samples at MyTrueAncestry, is that the Zeus level? Very interesting results for both of you.
    It is as indicated by the capture that Duarte has made. There is a list to create kits, that list is increasing but still and not all the kits in the list can be created, I imagine it is a matter of time.


    Creating kits I discovered that the kits of Iberia, Vettones, El Argar, La Loma del Puerco, Vascones, Ilergetes, Cueva de la Paloma, Cueva de la Guineu obtain each other and that Vascones tribe Vasconia obtains Carthaginian.

    Soon I will make a selection of all my wives outliers, I know it is autosomal because then I will have married my wives and their families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... at times, confusing:
    (Prenestini, Palestrina, Praeneste)

    The ancient name of Palestrina is Præneste.
    I get Prenestini directly, it's harder for me to say Penestrini
    R437
    (Latin Prenestini Tribe) 300 BC

    R436 (Roman Imperial Palestrina) 100 AD

    Culture Latin

    Praeneste (Palestrina), located south of Rome, was one of the largest ancient cities in Iron Age Latium. It was home to the Praenesti tribe ...
    I get Prenestini directly, it's harder for me to say Penestrini

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    I get Prenestini directly, it's harder for me to say Penestrini
    I think I know what you are “really” saying!

    ... lol

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    Looks like there's another update:

    Hrafna-Flóki's Vilgerðarson's Expedition
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    A Norseman from West Norway named Naddoðr was en-route to the Faroe Islands and got lost accidentally landing in Iceland - seeing no signs of life and the snow falling, he named this land Snæland (snow land). Around the same period, a Swedish Viking named Garðarr Svavarsson was on his way to the Hebrides islands to claim an inheritance. He had difficulty navigating the Orkney islands and ended up drifting to Iceland. Instead of making landfall, he circumnavigated Iceland to discover this piece of land was indeed an island and spent the winter in a northern bay he called Húsavík (house bay). After returning to Norway stories were told of Garðarr's adventures. Hrafna-Flóki Vilgerðarson decided he would be the first Viking to head to Iceland and settle it.


    Viking Boat Burial Iceland
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    Genetic Distance: 12.644
    Sample Match! 87% closer than other users

    Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland

    VDP-A6 (925 AD)
    mtDNA Haplogroup: H1c3a
    Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3a
    Genetic Distance: 6.8148
    Sample Match! 93% closer than other users

    Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland

    VDP-A7 (925 AD)
    mtDNA Haplogroup: H4a1a1
    Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a1b
    Genetic Distance: 10.942
    Sample Match! 86% closer than other users

    Viking Norse Iceland
    DKS-A1 (935 AD)
    mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1h
    Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3
    Genetic Distance: 8.8369
    Sample Match! 99% closer than other users

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    re-upload

    new sample: SZ1 Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD)

    (why outlier ???) (No Gender yet)

    WoW, the shared DNA ...





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