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Thank you very much Carlos :)

... I4055 is reported as y T1a2..., but it looks like MTA hasn’t added his Y Haplogroup yet.


only info I found on this sample from 2019 paper......scholars not sure if the sample was originally from the ancient iberian ( pre roman ) tribe called Vettones ( central spain next to Portugal ) or they came with the Vandal confederation of Suevi and or Alani tribes .............Vandals are part of a confederation of about 16 minor "germanic" tribes from modern northern poland and north eastern germany current lands
 
That’s great Carlos, Thanks again for all your hard work (y) :giggle:

... you posted all the info I need :)

I forgot this one in my post #3136
Iberians among my 125 ancient samples
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Let's look at their exponentially minority mitochondrial wives.





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Hispano-Roman-Visigothic?

The Roman part mainly Etruscan?

Although it has only 9% of Iberia and iron age. In Roman Hispania it is half and the dark ages drop to 31%.

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All your iron. Does it look Etruscan or am I wrong?
 
only info I found on this sample from 2019 paper......scholars not sure if the sample was originally from the ancient iberian ( pre roman ) tribe called Vettones ( central spain next to Portugal ) or they came with the Vandal confederation of Suevi and or Alani tribes .............Vandals are part of a confederation of about 16 minor "germanic" tribes from modern northern poland and north eastern germany current lands

[h=2]Kit: Roman Villa Granada Spain (I4055) (Gray point)[/h]Versus
[h=2]
Kit:
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (I3493)[/h][h=2]Kit: Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (I3490)[/h][h=2]Kit: Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (ESP005)[/h][h=2]Kit: Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (I12208)[/h][h=2]Kit: Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (I12209)[/h]
I4044vsVettonesESP005.JPEG
I4044vsVettonesI3490.JPEG


I4044vsVettonesI3493.JPEG


I4044vsVettonesI12208.JPEG


I4044vsVettonesI12209.JPEG


Well, it doesn't look like I4055 belonged to the Vettons
 
Kit: Roman Villa Granada Spain (I4055) (Gray point)

Versus

Kit:
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (I3493)


Kit: Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (I3490)

Kit: Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (ESP005)

Kit: Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (I12208)

Kit: Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (I12209)


I4044vsVettonesESP005.JPEG
I4044vsVettonesI3490.JPEG


I4044vsVettonesI3493.JPEG


I4044vsVettonesI12208.JPEG


I4044vsVettonesI12209.JPEG


Well, it doesn't look like I4055 belonged to the Vettons

Agree with your summary

snp L490, which I have, was never the main snp of the T tree for that area, it is L206...........Isogg and Ftdna took over 1 year to recognise my L490 and where at odds with me lacking L206 .............I am speaking years ago
 
Italians among my 125 ancient samples

2. Gallo-Roman Lombard Grave
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.629 - CL94

3. Etruscan Civitavecchia

650 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.714 - R474

5. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.945 - R33

14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy
990 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.87 - R63

20. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1355 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.25 - R55

45. Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.55 - R109

50. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1429 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.69 - R1287

52. Etruscan Civitavecchia
650 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.87 - R473

57. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1355 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.05 - R61
58. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.07 - R108

60. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1485 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.07 - R1221

61. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.1 - R105

62. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG
850 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.12 - R1015

84. Medieval Cancarro Church Foggia Italy
1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.36 - VK538

85. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.38 - CL47b

87. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1005 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.42 - R1285

88. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.45 - R36

89. Medieval Piedmont
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.49 - CL57

93. Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.68 - R110

96. Roman-Illyrian Lombard Grave
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.82 - CL23

107. Latin Tribe Inland BE
650 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.3 - R1021

108. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
930 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.37 - R1

114. Early Bronze Age Abisso del Vento Sicily
2073 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.58 - I8561

123. Medieval Cancarro Church Foggia Italy
1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.93 - VK536

124. Late Copper Age Italy
2600 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.94 - 9314_Oss

out of 100
... samples labeled absolutely “Italy” :

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and a lonely Tuscan (?):
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... Tivoli too :)
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... Cancelleria Basilica is in Rome :)

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@Duarte

I inherited that from my Grandfather,
he too was always right, ... even when he was wrong ... :LOL:
 
@Duarte

I inherited that from my Grandfather,
he too was always right, ... even when he was wrong ... :LOL:

Lol.:LOL: Our grandparents were always right, even when they were wrong. I always had to ask for the blessing by holding the right hand of my grandparents lightly. If I forgot about it and my father or mother were around, they called my attention: Respect your grandmother (your grandfather) and ask the blessing. Old days.
 
... I was going to say that Villa Magna is also near Rome, ...but I didn’t because I thought everyone knew :)
 
[h=3]Your Outlier Samples...[/h]
[FONT=&quot]See how it goes

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353. Late Roman Iberia Granada
470 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.51 - I3576
Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

370. Morisco Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.79 - I7424
Roman Hispania + Roman (6.778)
Al-Andalus + Roman (9.008)
Roman + Illyrian (9.47)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (9.789)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (9.873)
Roman (10.3)
Roman Hispania (11.82)
Gallo-Roman (13.78)
Illyrian (14.3)
Al-Andalus (15.69)

378. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.03 - R32
Ancient Greek + Thracian (4.339)
Philistine + Roman (4.534)
Roman + Thracian (5.249)
Philistine + Gallo-Roman (5.723)
Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (6.215)
Roman (8.347)
Thracian (11.84)
Gallo-Roman (12.58)
Ancient Greek (12.62)
Philistine (12.92)

380. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age Outlier
1756 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.08 - OTTM_154
Belgae + Phoenician (20.54)
Iberian + Gallo-Roman (20.71)
Iberian + Illyrian (20.73)
Belgae + Iberian (22.34)
Illyrian + Phoenician (22.47)
Illyrian (24.14)
Gallo-Roman (25.22)
Belgae (25.39)
Phoenician (25.98)
Iberian (26.02)

389. Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.29 - SZ43
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Roman (Genetic match)

393. Germanic Mixed Tribe
505 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.35 - AED125b
Celt + Gaul (10.61)
Celt + Frank (10.61)
Celt + Belgae (10.65)
Viking Danish + Gaul (10.87)
Viking Danish + Frank (10.87)
Celt (11.83)
Belgae (13.35)
Frank (13.45)
Viking Danish (13.64)
Gaul (14.64)

394. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix
410 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.37 - STR_328
Celt + Sarmatian (5.804)
Belgae + Sarmatian (7.17)
Sarmatian + Frank (8.006)
Belgae + Scythian (11.23)
Celt + Scythian (12.97)
Belgae (15.53)
Sarmatian (15.97)
Scythian (15.99)
Frank (16.0)
Celt (16.17)

395. Byzantine Roman Warrior
605 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.4 - NS3b
Gaul + Roman (8.486)
Roman (9.519)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (9.662)
Roman + Illyrian (10.24)
Roman + Thracian (11.1)
Gaul + Gallo-Roman (11.25)
Gallo-Roman (12.26)
Gaul (13.95)
Illyrian (14.19)
Thracian (17.55)

406. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech
2215 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.58 - I4896
Visigoth + Celt (2.797)
Celt + Frank (3.561)
Gaul + Saxon (3.702)
Celt + Gaul (3.784)
Saxon + Frank (4.86)
Frank (6.733)
Visigoth (7.895)
Celt (8.987)
Gaul (9.445)
Saxon (9.703)

421. Roman Villa Granada Spain

350 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.91 - I3983
Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

425. Danish Viking Medieval Denmark
1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.98 - G57
Viking Danish + Belgae (3.866)
Viking Danish + Celt (4.925)
Viking Danish (5.37)
Celt + Belgae (5.393)
Belgae + Saxon (5.491)
Viking Danish + Frank (6.51)
Celt (7.28)
Frank (9.399)
Belgae (9.802)
Saxon (10.79)

426. Roman-Era Empuries
47 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.04 - I10865
Iberian + Phoenician (6.765)
Iberian + Roman Hispania (10.48)
Aquitani + Phoenician (11.73)
Iberian + Etruscan (12.31)
Phoenician (13.18)
Iberian + Aquitani (13.54)
Iberian (13.82)
Aquitani (17.42)
Etruscan (18.29)

431. Unetice Bohemia

1875 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.16 - Rise154
Celt + Belgae (6.365)
Belgae + Saxon (8.371)
Belgae (8.581)
Belgae + Frank (8.603)
Celt (9.315)
Celt + Frank (9.38)
Belgae + Ostrogoth (9.773)
Saxon (12.19)
Frank (12.22)
Ostrogoth (15.2)

435. Carthago-Iberian-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.22 - I7500
Roman Hispania + Phoenician (10.06)
Phoenician (10.46)
Al-Andalus + Phoenician (12.53)
Phoenician + Carthaginian (12.61)
Etruscan + Phoenician (12.89)
Roman Hispania + Carthaginian (13.08)
Roman Hispania (13.75)
Carthaginian (17.16)
Etruscan (17.96)
Al-Andalus (19.42)

444. Carthaginian Roman-Era Empuries
200 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.42 - I8204
Phoenician + Carthaginian (5.336)
Etruscan + Carthaginian (5.488)
Roman Hispania + Phoenician (5.609)
Roman Hispania + Carthaginian (6.143)
Phoenician (7.458)
Philistine + Phoenician (7.96)
Carthaginian (9.338)
Roman Hispania (11.76)
Etruscan (14.63)
Philistine (18.02)

445. Bronze Age Szolad Hungary
1000 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.46 - SZ1
Gallo-Roman + Gepid (8.164)
Gepid + Illyrian (10.3)
Thuringii + Gallo-Roman (11.14)
Gaul + Gallo-Roman (11.44)
Gaul + Gepid (11.69)
Gallo-Roman (12.96)
Gaul (13.62)
Illyrian (14.71)
Thuringii (15.77)
Gepid (16.6)

447. Late Neolithic Oberbipp Switzerland
2800 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.5 - MX299
Iberian + Aquitani (13.83)
Iberian + Etruscan (15.11)
Iberian (15.27)
Iberian + Vascones (15.73)
Iberian + Rhaeti (15.79)
Aquitani (16.64)
Vascones + Aquitani (18.13)

448. Phoenician/Punic Sardinia Mount Sirai
675 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.52 - MSR003
Phoenician (Genetic match)

450. Corded Ware Estonia
2460 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.53 - Rise595
Aquitani + Boii (16.46)
Boii + Etruscan (17.02)
Boii (18.08)
Rhaeti + Boii (18.37)
Gallo-Roman + Boii (18.5)
Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (19.16)

451. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age
1593 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.55 - OTTM_142
Celt + Belgae (11.6)
Belgae (12.18)
Belgae + Saxon (13.86)
Belgae + Frank (14.3)
Visigoth + Belgae (15.02)
Celt (15.11)
Visigoth + Celt (16.02)
Frank (19.77)

453. Bronze Age Yehud Southern Levant
2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.61 - I6932
Ligurian + Carthaginian (16.05)
Latin + Carthaginian (16.95)
Gallo-Roman + Carthaginian (16.99)
Etruscan + Carthaginian (19.67)

454. Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.62 - SZ36
Roman (Genetic match)

457. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.67 - R120
Illyrian + Carthaginian (8.755)
Roman Hispania + Roman (8.961)
Roman + Phoenician (9.231)
Roman Hispania (9.271)
Roman Hispania + Phoenician (10.05)
Roman + Carthaginian (10.06)
Roman (14.31)
Illyrian (15.59)
Phoenician (16.84)
Carthaginian (17.03)

460. Copper Age Rouffach Haut-Rhin France
2225 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.71 - I1391
Celt + Celtiberian (11.4)
Belgae + Celtiberian (12.62)
Celt (13.13)
Celtiberian (13.23)
Celt + Vascones (13.64)
Vascones + Celtiberian (13.7)
Celt + Belgae (14.53)
Vascones (15.44)
Belgae (19.1)

461. Copper Age Beaker Brandysek Czech
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.73 - I7276
Saxon + Frank (4.341)
Visigoth + Saxon (4.808)
Frank (5.033)
Visigoth + Frank (5.4)
Celt + Frank (5.713)
Saxon (5.812)
Longobard + Frank (5.819)
Visigoth (6.222)
Longobard (9.851)
Celt (10.07)

466. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance
1650 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.77 - R970
Roman + Illyrian (5.741)
Roman Hispania + Roman (6.706)
Roman (7.753)
Roman + Thracian (7.78)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (7.923)
Thracian + Illyrian (7.925)
Roman Hispania (11.63)
Illyrian (12.23)
Thracian (13.13)
Gallo-Roman (13.26)

468. Roman Empire Monterotondo
165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.8 - R1540
Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (6.097)
Roman + Illyrian (7.151)
Roman Hispania + Roman (7.216)
Hellenic Roman + Illyrian (8.337)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (8.969)
Roman (9.217)
Roman Hispania (11.03)
Illyrian (13.55)
Hellenic Roman (14.5)
Gallo-Roman (15.34)

469. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona
165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.81 - R836
Philistine + Roman (9.784)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (10.36)
Roman + Thracian (10.59)
Philistine + Gallo-Roman (10.68)
Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (10.69)
Roman (11.5)
Philistine (15.22)
Gallo-Roman (16.01)
Ancient Greek (16.55)
Thracian (17.41)


472. Celt Hinxton Iron Age
45 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.85 - HI2
Celt (Genetic match)

475. Bronze Age Leith Edinburgh Scotland
1535 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.87 - I5470
Iberian + Aquitani (11.48)
Iberian + Vascones (11.69)
Celt + Iberian (12.9)
Iberian + Celtiberian (13.57)
Aquitani + Celtiberian (16.41)

478. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.93 - R113
Roman + Phoenician (7.366)
Roman Hispania + Phoenician (9.506)
Roman + Carthaginian (10.4)
Roman Hispania + Roman (11.05)
Gallo-Roman + Carthaginian (11.11)
Phoenician (12.98)
Roman Hispania (13.39)
Carthaginian (14.87)
Roman (16.3)
Gallo-Roman (18.16)

479. Roman-Era Emporion
200 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.93 - I8205
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (16.03)
Roman Hispania (16.34)
Roman Hispania + Roman (16.41)
Illyrian + Phoenician (18.02)
Roman + Phoenician (18.05)
Roman + Illyrian (18.34)
Illyrian (18.39)

480. Danish Gaelic Viking Iceland
935 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.94 - SSG-A2
Celt (Genetic match)

481. Celtic Medieval Denmark
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.95 - G973
Celt (6.145)
Viking Danish + Celt (6.439)
Celt + Belgae (6.578)
Celt + Frank (6.96)
Viking Icelandic + Belgae (6.969)
Viking Danish + Belgae (7.182)
Viking Danish (7.715)
Frank (9.727)
Belgae (11.4)
Viking Icelandic (11.81)

485. Roman Mix San Ercolano
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.02 - R118
Thracian + Illyrian (6.652)
Roman + Illyrian (6.785)
Hellenic Roman + Illyrian (7.217)
Roman Hispania + Roman (7.801)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (8.455)
Roman (9.49)
Roman Hispania (11.25)
Illyrian (11.89)
Thracian (11.97)
Hellenic Roman (14.72)

486. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.03 - SZ31
Gallo-Roman + Roman (7.168)
Ancient Greek + Illyrian (7.299)
Roman + Illyrian (7.878)
Roman Hispania + Roman (8.131)
Roman (8.204)
Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (8.365)
Gallo-Roman (13.61)
Roman Hispania (13.89)
Illyrian (15.4)
Ancient Greek (16.0)

487. Western Scythian Ukraine
600 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.04 - MJ47
Celt + Scythian (6.93)
Visigoth + Scythian (8.044)
Belgae + Scythian (8.306)
Scythian + Frank (8.719)
Celt + Frank (10.5)
Scythian (11.67)
Celt (11.98)
Visigoth (12.79)
Frank (13.01)
Belgae (14.01)

488. Neolithic Ireland
3200 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.06 - Ballynahatty
Etruscan + Balari (3.858)
Phoenician + Balari (5.294)
Carthaginian + Balari (6.327)
Latin + Carthaginian (9.81)
Latin + Balari (9.871)
Phoenician (12.18)
Etruscan (14.52)
Balari (15.89)
Carthaginian (16.6)
Latin (19.05)

490. Germanic Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
1500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.1 - SNN001
Alemanni + Ligurian (9.743)
Alemanni + Frank (10.91)
Alemanni + Ostrogoth (11.11)
Vandal + Ligurian (11.77)
Vandal + Frank (12.59)
Alemanni (13.1)
Ostrogoth (13.85)
Frank (14.44)
Vandal (15.35)
Ligurian (15.95)

491. Bronze Age Chippenham Cambridgeshire England
1850 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.1 - I7639
Celtiberian + Saxon (8.053)
Celt + Celtiberian (8.235)
Vascones + Saxon (10.76)
Celt + Belgae (11.09)
Celt + Vascones (11.09)
Celt (14.84)
Belgae (16.34)
Saxon (18.85)
Vascones (19.11)
Celtiberian (19.15)

492. Strachow Bronze Age Poland
1880 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.11 - I6538
Celt + Alemanni (10.36)
Celt + Saxon (11.66)
Celt + Frank (11.91)
Celt (12.54)
Alemanni + Frank (12.78)
Saxon + Frank (12.89)
Saxon (15.67)
Alemanni (16.58)
Vandal (16.68)
Frank (17.47)

493. Nordic Lombard
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.14 - SZ14
Viking Danish + Longobard (4.033)
Longobard + Frank (4.344)
Celt + Longobard (4.969)
Viking Danish + Frank (5.182)
Celt + Frank (5.522)
Celt (7.275)
Viking Danish (7.809)
Saxon (8.605)
Frank (8.813)
Longobard (8.988)

495. Early Bronze Age Plymouth
1840 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.16 - I5441
Celt + Belgae (7.169)
Celt + Saxon (8.189)
Belgae + Saxon (8.535)
Celt + Frank (9.947)
Belgae + Vandal (10.5)
Celt (10.65)
Saxon (14.43)
Belgae (14.64)
Vandal (15.36)
Frank (15.45)

496. Neolithic Ireland
3000 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.17 - CAK531
Latin + Balari (3.834)
Ligurian + Balari (4.39)
Iberian + Balari (5.139)
Etruscan + Balari (8.429)
Latin (10.34)
Latin + Etruscan (12.7)
Etruscan (16.13)
Iberian (17.7)
Ligurian (18.47)
Balari (18.48)

497. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.2 - I12031
Scythian + Gaul (6.59)
Scythian + Frank (7.649)
Scythian + Thuringii (7.837)
Gaul (8.718)
Visigoth + Scythian (8.924)
Gaul + Thuringii (8.966)
Thuringii (11.34)
Scythian (11.65)
Frank (11.78)
Visigoth (13.6)

498. Rossberga Neolithic Valtorp Sweden
3120 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.22 - ros3
Etruscan + Balari (2.287)
Iberian + Balari (2.441)
Latin + Balari (6.432)
Phoenician + Balari (7.846)
Iberian + Phoenician (11.54)
Balari (14.52)
Etruscan (14.84)
Phoenician (16.54)
Latin (17.17)
Iberian (17.52)

499. Visigoth Germanic Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.28 - I12163
Visigoth (Genetic match)

500. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.32 - KT32
Celt + Belgae (4.283)
Viking Danish + Belgae (7.596)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (8.075)
Viking Icelandic + Belgae (8.122)
Viking Danish + Celt (8.522)
Celt (9.544)
Viking Danish (11.42)
Belgae (11.87)
Viking Icelandic (13.35)
Saxon (13.72)

536. Late Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
1450 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.04 - SNN001
Phoenician + Balari (13.79)
Etruscan + Iolaes (13.91)
Etruscan + Balari (14.08)
Phoenician + Iolaes (14.16)
Carthaginian + Balari (14.68)
Balari (17.71)

 
out of 100
... samples labeled absolutely “Italy” :

fMqXgeA.jpg



and a lonely Tuscan (?):
iRaJRDX.jpg


... Tivoli too :)
NOJi74a.jpg


... labeled only Imperial Rome / Empire
(not included: Central, Hellenic, and others):

uWOZivG.jpg


... there’s a slight difference between my old 23v5 raw-data and the new 2020 ...
 
... Latins R850 and R437 are about 300 years apart, ... they share double positions in my Chroms 8 and 20

... the closest thing to Immortality ...

from Tarantati, they’re slowly turning into Yankees
:grin:

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... R850 and I also share a piece of the Y chromosome, though the y and x chr. are not included in “Chroma Analysis”.

T1a1... vs T1a2... (me)
 
Mis otuliers masculinos BC
I have included the uncertain ones as masculine

488. Neolithic Ireland
3200 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.06 - Ballynahatty
Etruscan + Balari (3.858)
Phoenician + Balari (5.294)
Carthaginian + Balari (6.327)
Latin + Carthaginian (9.81)
Latin + Balari (9.871)
Phoenician (12.18)
Etruscan (14.52)
Balari (15.89)
Carthaginian (16.6)
Latin (19.05)

496. Neolithic Ireland

3000 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.17 - CAK531
Latin + Balari (3.834)
Ligurian + Balari (4.39)
Iberian + Balari (5.139)
Etruscan + Balari (8.429)
Latin (10.34)
Latin + Etruscan (12.7)
Etruscan (16.13)
Iberian (17.7)
Ligurian (18.47)
Balari (18.48)

447. Late Neolithic Oberbipp Switzerland
2800 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.5 - MX299
Iberian + Aquitani (13.83)
Iberian + Etruscan (15.11)
Iberian (15.27)
Iberian + Vascones (15.73)
Iberian + Rhaeti (15.79)
Aquitani (16.64)
Vascones + Aquitani (18.13)

461. Copper Age Beaker Brandysek Czech
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.73 - I7276
Saxon + Frank (4.341)
Visigoth + Saxon (4.808)
Frank (5.033)
Visigoth + Frank (5.4)
Celt + Frank (5.713)
Saxon (5.812)
Longobard + Frank (5.819)
Visigoth (6.222)
Longobard (9.851)
Celt (10.07)

453. Bronze Age Yehud Southern Levant

2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.61 - I6932
Ligurian + Carthaginian (16.05)
Latin + Carthaginian (16.95)
Gallo-Roman + Carthaginian (16.99)
Etruscan + Carthaginian (19.67)

495. Early Bronze Age Plymouth
1840 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.16 - I5441
Celt + Belgae (7.169)
Celt + Saxon (8.189)
Belgae + Saxon (8.535)
Celt + Frank (9.947)
Belgae + Vandal (10.5)
Celt (10.65)
Saxon (14.43)
Belgae (14.64)
Vandal (15.36)
Frank (15.45)

475. Bronze Age Leith Edinburgh Scotland
1535 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.87 - I5470
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Iberian + Aquitani (11.48)
Iberian + Vascones (11.69)
Celt + Iberian (12.9)
Iberian + Celtiberian (13.57)
Aquitani + Celtiberian (16.41)

380. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age Outlier

1756 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.08 - OTTM_154
Belgae + Phoenician (20.54)
Iberian + Gallo-Roman (20.71)
Iberian + Illyrian (20.73)
Belgae + Iberian (22.34)
Illyrian + Phoenician (22.47)
Illyrian (24.14)
Gallo-Roman (25.22)
Belgae (25.39)
Phoenician (25.98)
Iberian (26.02)

445. Bronze Age Szolad Hungary
1000 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.46 - SZ1
Gallo-Roman + Gepid (8.164)
Gepid + Illyrian (10.3)
Thuringii + Gallo-Roman (11.14)
Gaul + Gallo-Roman (11.44)
Gaul + Gepid (11.69)
Gallo-Roman (12.96)
Gaul (13.62)
Illyrian (14.71)
Thuringii (15.77)
Gepid (16.6)

448. Phoenician/Punic Sardinia Mount Sirai
675 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.52 - MSR003
Phoenician (Genetic match)

472. Celt Hinxton Iron Age
45 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.85 - HI2
Celt (Genetic match)

479. Roman-Era Emporion
200 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.93 - I8205
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (16.03)
Roman Hispania (16.34)
Roman Hispania + Roman (16.41)
Illyrian + Phoenician (18.02)
Roman + Phoenician (18.05)
Roman + Illyrian (18.34)
Illyrian (18.39)



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My female outliers BC

498. Rossberga Neolithic Valtorp Sweden

3120 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.22 - ros3
Etruscan + Balari (2.287)
Iberian + Balari (2.441)
Latin + Balari (6.432)
Phoenician + Balari (7.846)
Iberian + Phoenician (11.54)
Balari (14.52)
Etruscan (14.84)
Phoenician (16.54)
Latin (17.17)
Iberian (17.52)

450. Corded Ware Estonia
2460 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.53 - Rise595
Aquitani + Boii (16.46)
Boii + Etruscan (17.02)
Boii (18.08)
Rhaeti + Boii (18.37)
Gallo-Roman + Boii (18.5)
Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (19.16)

406. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech
2215 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.58 - I4896
Visigoth + Celt (2.797)
Celt + Frank (3.561)
Gaul + Saxon (3.702)
Celt + Gaul (3.784)
Saxon + Frank (4.86)
Frank (6.733)
Visigoth (7.895)
Celt (8.987)
Gaul (9.445)
Saxon (9.703)

460. Copper Age Rouffach Haut-Rhin France
2225 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.71 - I1391
Celt + Celtiberian (11.4)
Belgae + Celtiberian (12.62)
Celt (13.13)
Celtiberian (13.23)
Celt + Vascones (13.64)
Vascones + Celtiberian (13.7)
Celt + Belgae (14.53)
Vascones (15.44)
Belgae (19.1)

491. Bronze Age Chippenham Cambridgeshire England
1850 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.1 - I7639
Celtiberian + Saxon (8.053)
Celt + Celtiberian (8.235)
Vascones + Saxon (10.76)
Celt + Belgae (11.09)
Celt + Vascones (11.09)
Celt (14.84)
Belgae (16.34)
Saxon (18.85)
Vascones (19.11)
Celtiberian (19.15)

492. Strachow Bronze Age Poland
1880 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.11 - I6538
Celt + Alemanni (10.36)
Celt + Saxon (11.66)
Celt + Frank (11.91)
Celt (12.54)
Alemanni + Frank (12.78)
Saxon + Frank (12.89)
Saxon (15.67)
Alemanni (16.58)
Vandal (16.68)
Frank (17.47)

431. Unetice Bohemia
1875 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.16 - Rise154
Celt + Belgae (6.365)
Belgae + Saxon (8.371)
Belgae (8.581)
Belgae + Frank (8.603)
Celt (9.315)
Celt + Frank (9.38)
Belgae + Ostrogoth (9.773)
Saxon (12.19)
Frank (12.22)
Ostrogoth (15.2)

451. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age
1593 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.55 - OTTM_142
Celt + Belgae (11.6)
Belgae (12.18)
Belgae + Saxon (13.86)
Belgae + Frank (14.3)
Visigoth + Belgae (15.02)
Celt (15.11)
Visigoth + Celt (16.02)
Frank (19.77)

487. Western Scythian Ukraine
600 BC - Genetic Distance: 24.04 - MJ47
Celt + Scythian (6.93)
Visigoth + Scythian (8.044)
Belgae + Scythian (8.306)
Scythian + Frank (8.719)
Celt + Frank (10.5)
Scythian (11.67)
Celt (11.98)
Visigoth (12.79)
Frank (13.01)
Belgae (14.01)

444. Carthaginian Roman-Era Empuries
200 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.42 - I8204
Phoenician + Carthaginian (5.336)
Etruscan + Carthaginian (5.488)
Roman Hispania + Phoenician (5.609)
Roman Hispania + Carthaginian (6.143)
Phoenician (7.458)
Philistine + Phoenician (7.96)
Carthaginian (9.338)
Roman Hispania (11.76)
Etruscan (14.63)
Philistine (18.02)

426. Roman-Era Empuries
47 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.04 - I10865
Iberian + Phoenician (6.765)
Iberian + Roman Hispania (10.48)
Aquitani + Phoenician (11.73)
Iberian + Etruscan (12.31)
Phoenician (13.18)
Iberian + Aquitani (13.54)
Iberian (13.82)
Aquitani (17.42)
Etruscan (18.29)


 
My male outliers AD

478. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.93 - R113
Roman + Phoenician (7.366)
Roman Hispania + Phoenician (9.506)
Roman + Carthaginian (10.4)
Roman Hispania + Roman (11.05)
Gallo-Roman + Carthaginian (11.11)
Phoenician (12.98)
Roman Hispania (13.39)
Carthaginian (14.87)
Roman (16.3)
Gallo-Roman (18.16)

468. Roman Empire Monterotondo
165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.8 - R1540
Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (6.097)
Roman + Illyrian (7.151)
Roman Hispania + Roman (7.216)
Hellenic Roman + Illyrian (8.337)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (8.969)
Roman (9.217)
Roman Hispania (11.03)
Illyrian (13.55)
Hellenic Roman (14.5)
Gallo-Roman (15.34)

421. Roman Villa Granada Spain
350 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.91 - I3983
Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

353. Late Roman Iberia Granada

470 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.51 - I3576
Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

389. Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.29 - SZ43
Roman (Genetic match)

378. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.03 - R32
Ancient Greek + Thracian (4.339)
Philistine + Roman (4.534)
Roman + Thracian (5.249)
Philistine + Gallo-Roman (5.723)
Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (6.215)
Roman (8.347)
Thracian (11.84)
Gallo-Roman (12.58)
Ancient Greek (12.62)
Philistine (12.92)

457. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.67 - R120
Illyrian + Carthaginian (8.755)
Roman Hispania + Roman (8.961)
Roman + Phoenician (9.231)
Roman Hispania (9.271)
Roman Hispania + Phoenician (10.05)
Roman + Carthaginian (10.06)
Roman (14.31)
Illyrian (15.59)
Phoenician (16.84)
Carthaginian (17.03)

485. Roman Mix San Ercolano
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.02 - R118
Thracian + Illyrian (6.652)
Roman + Illyrian (6.785)
Hellenic Roman + Illyrian (7.217)
Roman Hispania + Roman (7.801)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (8.455)
Roman (9.49)
Roman Hispania (11.25)
Illyrian (11.89)
Thracian (11.97)
Hellenic Roman (14.72)

393. Germanic Mixed Tribe
505 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.35 - AED125b
Celt + Gaul (10.61)
Celt + Frank (10.61)
Celt + Belgae (10.65)
Viking Danish + Gaul (10.87)
Viking Danish + Frank (10.87)
Celt (11.83)
Belgae (13.35)
Frank (13.45)
Viking Danish (13.64)
Gaul (14.64)

497. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.2 - I12031
Scythian + Gaul (6.59)
Scythian + Frank (7.649)
Scythian + Thuringii (7.837)
Gaul (8.718)
Visigoth + Scythian (8.924)
Gaul + Thuringii (8.966)
Thuringii (11.34)
Scythian (11.65)
Frank (11.78)
Visigoth (13.6)

486. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.03 - SZ31
Gallo-Roman + Roman (7.168)
Ancient Greek + Illyrian (7.299)
Roman + Illyrian (7.878)
Roman Hispania + Roman (8.131)
Roman (8.204)
Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (8.365)
Gallo-Roman (13.61)
Roman Hispania (13.89)
Illyrian (15.4)
Ancient Greek (16.0)

493. Nordic Lombard
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.14 - SZ14
Viking Danish + Longobard (4.033)
Longobard + Frank (4.344)
Celt + Longobard (4.969)
Viking Danish + Frank (5.182)
Celt + Frank (5.522)
Celt (7.275)
Viking Danish (7.809)
Saxon (8.605)
Frank (8.813)
Longobard (8.988)

395. Byzantine Roman Warrior
605 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.4 - NS3b
Gaul + Roman (8.486)
Roman (9.519)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (9.662)
Roman + Illyrian (10.24)
Roman + Thracian (11.1)
Gaul + Gallo-Roman (11.25)
Gallo-Roman (12.26)
Gaul (13.95)
Illyrian (14.19)
Thracian (17.55)

480. Danish Gaelic Viking Iceland
935 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.94 - SSG-A2
Celt (Genetic match)

435. Carthago-Iberian-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.22 - I7500
Roman Hispania + Phoenician (10.06)
Phoenician (10.46)
Al-Andalus + Phoenician (12.53)
Phoenician + Carthaginian (12.61)
Etruscan + Phoenician (12.89)
Roman Hispania + Carthaginian (13.08)
Roman Hispania (13.75)
Carthaginian (17.16)
Etruscan (17.96)
Al-Andalus (19.42)

500. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.32 - KT32
Celt + Belgae (4.283)
Viking Danish + Belgae (7.596)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (8.075)
Viking Icelandic + Belgae (8.122)
Viking Danish + Celt (8.522)
Celt (9.544)
Viking Danish (11.42)
Belgae (11.87)
Viking Icelandic (13.35)
Saxon (13.72)

425. Danish Viking Medieval Denmark
1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.98 - G57
Viking Danish + Belgae (3.866)
Viking Danish + Celt (4.925)
Viking Danish (5.37)
Celt + Belgae (5.393)
Belgae + Saxon (5.491)
Viking Danish + Frank (6.51)
Celt (7.28)
Frank (9.399)
Belgae (9.802)
Saxon (10.79)

536. Late Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
1450 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.04 - SNN001
Phoenician + Balari (13.79)
Etruscan + Iolaes (13.91)
Etruscan + Balari (14.08)
Phoenician + Iolaes (14.16)
Carthaginian + Balari (14.68)
Balari (17.71)


490. Germanic Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
1500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.1 - SNN001
Alemanni + Ligurian (9.743)
Alemanni + Frank (10.91)
Alemanni + Ostrogoth (11.11)
Vandal + Ligurian (11.77)
Vandal + Frank (12.59)
Alemanni (13.1)
Ostrogoth (13.85)
Frank (14.44)
Vandal (15.35)
Ligurian (15.95)

466. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance
1650 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.77 - R970
Roman + Illyrian (5.741)
Roman Hispania + Roman (6.706)
Roman (7.753)
Roman + Thracian (7.78)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (7.923)
Thracian + Illyrian (7.925)
Roman Hispania (11.63)
Illyrian (12.23)
Thracian (13.13)
Gallo-Roman (13.26)


My woman outliers AD

469. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona
165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.81 - R836
Philistine + Roman (9.784)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (10.36)
Roman + Thracian (10.59)
Philistine + Gallo-Roman (10.68)
Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (10.69)
Roman (11.5)
Philistine (15.22)
Gallo-Roman (16.01)
Ancient Greek (16.55)
Thracian (17.41)

394. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix
410 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.37 - STR_328
Celt + Sarmatian (5.804)
Belgae + Sarmatian (7.17)
Sarmatian + Frank (8.006)
Belgae + Scythian (11.23)
Celt + Scythian (12.97)
Belgae (15.53)
Sarmatian (15.97)
Scythian (15.99)
Frank (16.0)
Celt (16.17)

499. Visigoth Germanic Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.28 - I12163
Visigoth (Genetic match)

481. Celtic Medieval Denmark
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.95 - G973
Celt (6.145)
Viking Danish + Celt (6.439)
Celt + Belgae (6.578)
Celt + Frank (6.96)
Viking Icelandic + Belgae (6.969)
Viking Danish + Belgae (7.182)
Viking Danish (7.715)
Frank (9.727)
Belgae (11.4)
Viking Icelandic (11.81)

370. Morisco Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.79 - I7424
Roman Hispania + Roman (6.778)
Al-Andalus + Roman (9.008)
Roman + Illyrian (9.47)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (9.789)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (9.873)
Roman (10.3)
Roman Hispania (11.82)
Gallo-Roman (13.78)
Illyrian (14.3)
Al-Andalus (15.69)
 
My kit (Gray point) compared to the Girona Sant Juliá de Ramis kits (White point)

[h=2]Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10851)[/h]Visigoth + Rhaeti (4.057)
Rhaeti + Etruscan (4.377)
Gallo-Roman + Rhaeti (4.477)
Rhaeti (5.019)
Visigoth + Etruscan (5.231)
Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (5.24)
Etruscan (5.603)
Gallo-Roman (6.206)
Visigoth (6.235)
Iberian (8.179)
[h=2]Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10852)[/h]Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (4.475)
Gallo-Roman (4.774)
Visigoth + Ligurian (5.353)
Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (5.486)
Ligurian + Gallo-Roman (5.506)
Iberian + Ligurian (5.63)
Visigoth (6.01)
Etruscan (7.744)
Ligurian (8.599)
Iberian (9.262)
[h=2]Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10853)[/h]Al-Andalus + Etruscan (5.522)
Iberian + Al-Andalus (5.929)
Visigoth + Etruscan (6.514)
Rhaeti + Etruscan (6.795)
Iberian + Etruscan (7.112)
Etruscan (7.581)
Rhaeti (9.529)
Visigoth (9.978)
Iberian (10.35)
Al-Andalus (10.37)
[h=2]Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10892)[/h]Vascones + Etruscan (10.61)
Visigoth + Iberian (10.97)
Aquitani + Etruscan (11.31)
Visigoth + Aquitani (11.31)
Iberian + Aquitani (11.45)
Aquitani (11.57)
Iberian (12.34)
Visigoth (12.97)
Vascones (13.34)
Etruscan (13.8)
[h=2]Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10895)[/h]Visigoth + Vascones (4.831)
Visigoth + Aquitani (5.069)
Vascones + Gallo-Roman (5.148)
Visigoth (5.682)
Visigoth + Iberian (5.797)
Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (5.961)
Iberian (7.783)
Gallo-Roman (7.858)
Vascones (8.07)
Aquitani (8.091)
[h=2]Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10897)[/h]Celt + Iberian (3.729)
Iberian + Vascones (5.384)
Iberian + Aquitani (8.036)
Vascones + Celtiberian (8.199)
Iberian + Celtiberian (8.253)
Vascones (9.127)
Celtiberian (11.04)
Iberian (11.27)
Aquitani (11.38)
Celt (12.25)

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