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[Salento]

Additional Features >>> Medical Analysis
blood type:

 

[Duarte]

Additional Features >>> Medical Analysis
blood type:

I haven’t this option in my ‘Additional Features’ . I just have the option of comparison two different kits:sad-2:

Cheers dear friend Salento.

 

[Salento]

I haven’t this option in my ‘Additional Features’ . I just have the option of comparison two different kits:sad-2:

Cheers dear friend Salento.

... strange, ... and you’ve got the Rich People level, ... lol

 

[Riverman]

... strange, ... and you’ve got the Rich People level, ... lol

It might be related to the place of residence. On 23andme the medical interpretations were blocked for Europeans too after the troubles with the FDA and never reopened, unlike for Americans.

 

[Archetype0ne]

Guys, I wanted to post this in another thread ... genetic origin of Minoans and Mycenaeans, due to the discussion going on there... but I felt its more appropriate here.

Is it me or quite a few Italians, people with Italian ancestry (and even some Iberians) have very close matches with Bronze Age Balkans, be it Illyrians or Thracians and even ancient Greeks?

Would this be because of some Southern European genetic continuum?

Not only that, but as has been previously stated in various threads on Eupedia, Albanians and Greeks are quite close autosomally to southern Italians, and even Tuscans (who I consider North Italy).

I personally get modeled by some calculators with the third closest population autosomally to Swiss Italians, which I find quite peculiar and interesting.

 

[Angela]

Guys, I wanted to post this in another thread ... genetic origin of Minoans and Mycenaeans, due to the discussion going on there... but I felt its more appropriate here.

Is it me or quite a few Italians, people with Italian ancestry (and even some Iberians) have very close matches with Bronze Age Balkans, be it Illyrians or Thracians and even ancient Greeks?

Would this be because of some Southern European genetic continuum?

Not only that, but as has been previously stated in various threads on Eupedia, Albanians and Greeks are quite close autosomally to southern Italians, and even Tuscans (who I consider North Italy).

I personally get modeled by some calculators with the third closest population autosomally to Swiss Italians, which I find quite peculiar and interesting.

A lot of Italians get close matches with Bronze Age Balkans, especially those from Tuscany north, i.e. Torzio, Stuvane, etc. as well as me. If my memory serves, Duarte also gets matches but I think the Northern Italians are closer.

Maybe they'll chime in.

I think it's partly because it's a similar mix in terms of percentages of European farmer and steppe.

In terms of the Mycenaeans, I don't think anyone is really close to them among Italians, and I don't know that I've ever seen Greek or Albanian results; or maybe I just don't remember.

My husband's results (Calabria and Campania):

13.21406069	I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
15.30949705	I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
16.39549938	I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
16.51320684	I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
17.14511884	I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
17.69629340	I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
18.10760614	I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
22.17128548	I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
22.50692338	I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
29.94620677	I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
31.37735011	I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete

 

[Angela]

Guys, I wanted to post this in another thread ... genetic origin of Minoans and Mycenaeans, due to the discussion going on there... but I felt its more appropriate here.

Is it me or quite a few Italians, people with Italian ancestry (and even some Iberians) have very close matches with Bronze Age Balkans, be it Illyrians or Thracians and even ancient Greeks?

Would this be because of some Southern European genetic continuum?

Not only that, but as has been previously stated in various threads on Eupedia, Albanians and Greeks are quite close autosomally to southern Italians, and even Tuscans (who I consider North Italy).

I personally get modeled by some calculators with the third closest population autosomally to Swiss Italians, which I find quite peculiar and interesting.

A lot of Italians get close matches with Bronze Age Balkans, especially those from Tuscany north, i.e. Torzio, Stuvane, etc. as well as me. If my memory serves, Duarte also gets matches but I think the Northern Italians are closer.

Maybe they'll chime in.

I think it's partly because it's a similar mix in terms of percentages of European farmer and steppe.

In terms of the Mycenaeans, I don't think anyone is really close to them among Italians, and I don't know that I've ever seen Greek or Albanian results; or maybe I just don't remember.

My husband's results (Calabria and Campania):

13.21406069	I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
15.30949705	I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
16.39549938	I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
16.51320684	I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
17.14511884	I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
17.69629340	I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
18.10760614	I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
20.50776438	I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
20.79050745	I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
21.50784741	I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
21.58030584	I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
22.17128548	I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
22.50692338	I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
23.08921610	I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave
29.94620677	I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
31.37735011	I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete

Mine:

Distance to:	Angela
6.32865705	I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
13.16126134	I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
16.36232257	I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
17.15337576	I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
22.73903692	I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
23.78977301	I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave
24.20533206	I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
25.21253061	I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
25.95385135	I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
26.05354486	I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
27.02639081	I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
27.59669183	I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
28.94240488	I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
29.43669479	I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
30.20115726	I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
34.35607515	I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete

 

[Archetype0ne]

A lot of Italians get close matches with Bronze Age Balkans, especially those from Tuscany north, i.e. Torzio, Stuvane, etc. as well as me. If my memory serves, Duarte also gets matches but I think the Northern Italians are closer.

Maybe they'll chime in.

I think it's partly because it's a similar mix in terms of percentages of European farmer and steppe.

In terms of the Mycenaeans, I don't think anyone is really close to them among Italians, and I don't know that I've ever seen Greek or Albanian results; or maybe I just don't remember.

My husband's results (Calabria and Campania):

13.21406069	I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
15.30949705	I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
16.39549938	I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
16.51320684	I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
17.14511884	I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
17.69629340	I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
18.10760614	I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
22.17128548	I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
22.50692338	I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
29.94620677	I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
31.37735011	I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete

Yes, did not mean relatively close to Myceneans, just mean't I got inspiration from that thread.

... sharing with me the same chromosome segment (.. common ancestry) :

I3313 / I5769 and SZ1 / I5769 /...

SZ1 must be a Top Ancient Matrix

8.10124682I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
11.23290701I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
12.00656071I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
13.72024781I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
18.74095515I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
21.33123063I2495_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta
21.43208343I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
21.69369033I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
21.86606046I2499_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta
23.18149693I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
24.19380086I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave
24.29362468I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
24.86041029I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
24.97441291I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
26.69673388I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
27.08157676I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
27.29426130I2683_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-

Distance: 4.8511% / 4.85107036

76.8I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
23.2I2499_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta

Crete Armenoi is closer to Bulgarians than it is to Myceaneans, isn't that alarming enough that it is not an accurate model?
As for the rest I agree the Epirotes and Macedonians might be closer to Thracians than ancient Peloponnesians but still Thracians are closer to Myceaneans than mainland Greeks are.

Mine
4.35562854 I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
12.34540805 I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
17.07410905 I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
20.16042410 I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
21.91538957 I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
26.22964163 I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave
27.04493113 I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
27.83330918 I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
27.88569884 I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
29.00606661 I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
29.15295011 I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
29.32860208 I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
30.61564469 I2495_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta
31.45773514 I2499_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta
31.73608199 I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
32.81546434 I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
33.17885923 I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
35.70232205 I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
36.85938686 I2683_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta

Jovialis: Many thanks again.

Distance to:	PalermoTrapani
5.34140431	I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
6.45593525	I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
8.70789871	I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
11.70746343	I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
13.34228991	I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
13.73657526	I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
14.14548338	I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
15.13739410	I2495_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta
15.50460899	I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
16.19644097	I2499_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta
16.85183373	I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
17.19064571	I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
17.84991597	I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave
18.17824524	I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
19.00934244	I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
19.36881772	I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
20.65580306	I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
21.49435740	I2683_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta
23.40739413	I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete

Target: PalermoTrapani Distance: 5.3414% / 5.34140431 | ADC: 2x
100.0	I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese

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Target: PalermoTrapani Distance: 4.4120% / 4.41203743 | ADC: 1x
69.2	I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
27.8	I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
3.0	I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete

---

Target: PalermoTrapani Distance: 1.8120% / 1.81200405 | ADC: 0.5x
63.2	I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
29.4	I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
7.4	I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese

---

Target: PalermoTrapani Distance: 1.4926% / 1.49259517 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8	I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
34.2	I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete

[FONT=&quot]Here are the four Mycenaean samples as TARGETS.

I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis

I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese

I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese

I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese

[/FONT]

Here is Minoan and Mycenean also done by ph2ter:

Here is mine

Edit: These maps are "G25 Distance Maps To Modern Europeans". Many more interesting maps done by ph2ter can be found here:
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18960-G25-Distance-Maps-To-Modern-Europeans

These are the posts that inspired my question.
I realize that Mycenean at around 10-13% genetic distance is not that "close", and I did not imply that, just got inspired from the posts in Genetic origins of Minoans and Myceneans. And to be fair 10-13% genetic distance to such ancient samples is nothing to scoff at.
My point was that autosomally speaking Italians, Albanians and Greeks are "fairly close" to ancient Bronze age populations, be it Illyrian, Thracian and less so for Mycenean and Minoan.

 

[torzio]

Guys, I wanted to post this in another thread ... genetic origin of Minoans and Mycenaeans, due to the discussion going on there... but I felt its more appropriate here.

Is it me or quite a few Italians, people with Italian ancestry (and even some Iberians) have very close matches with Bronze Age Balkans, be it Illyrians or Thracians and even ancient Greeks?

Would this be because of some Southern European genetic continuum?

Not only that, but as has been previously stated in various threads on Eupedia, Albanians and Greeks are quite close autosomally to southern Italians, and even Tuscans (who I consider North Italy).

I personally get modeled by some calculators with the third closest population autosomally to Swiss Italians, which I find quite peculiar and interesting.

swiss-italians are historically tied to Grisons
The canton of (the) Grisons, or canton of Graubünden,^[a] is the largest and easternmost canton of Switzerland. It has international borders with Italy, Austria, and Liechtenstein. Its German name, Graubünden, translates as the "Grey Leagues", referring to the canton's origin in three local alliances, the League of God's House, the Grey League, and the League of the Ten Jurisdictions. Grisons is the only officially trilingual canton and the only one where the Romansh language has official status. Swiss German, Italian, and Romansh are all native to the canton.
Most of the lands of the canton were once part of a Roman province called Raetia, which was established in 15 BC. The current capital of Grisons, Chur, was known as Curia in Roman times. The area later was part of the lands of the diocese of Chur. In 1798, the lands of the canton of Grisons became part of the Helvetic Republic as the Canton of Raetia except Valtellina, which was separated in 1797 for joining to the Cisalpine Republic. It was later part of Empire of Austria in 1814 before joining to Kingdom of Italy in 1859.

https://books.google.com.au/books?i...3oECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=ancient grisons&f=false

Rhaetians are associated with Tuscans, Veneti, Lombardi, Trentini and Friuliani

The venetians took a lot of these people as mercenaries circa 1600
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=p1IBAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=ancient+grisons+and+venetians&source=bl&ots=FVvmptEKN4&sig=ACfU3U2pgoGgIp4UZ9rWHlrtbyqNEf5IIA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBxoa8x53pAhUMeisKHf58DzEQ6AEwE3oECBcQAQ#v=onepage&q=ancient%20grisons%20and%20venetians&f=false


[url]https://books.google.com.au/books?id=SubcAQPqa3EC&pg=PA218&lpg=PA218&dq=ancient+grisons+and+venetians&source=bl&ots=ouWIFN_sin&sig=ACfU3U2wh9qALo2fsvJxoAEom0TvUxJpMA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBxoa8x53pAhUMeisKHf58DzEQ6AEwFnoECBgQAQ#v=onepage&q=ancient%20grisons%20and%20venetians&f=false
[/URL]

 

[Angela]

Yes, did not mean relatively close to Myceneans, just mean't I got inspiration from that thread.
















These are the posts that inspired my question.
I realize that Mycenean at around 10-13% genetic distance is not that "close", and I did not imply that, just got inspired from the posts in Genetic origins of Minoans and Myceneans. And to be fair 10-13% genetic distance to such ancient samples is nothing to scoff at.
My point was that autosomally speaking Italians, Albanians and Greeks are "fairly close" to ancient Bronze age populations, be it Illyrian, Thracian and less so for Mycenean and Minoan.

I completely agree.

From what I've seen, though, Sicilians (i.e. Palermo Trapani) are often much closer to Myceneaens than anyone else, and I think northern Italians, not including Tuscans, may be the closest to Bronze Age Balkan populations north of Greece, although I think that's a Southern European phenomenon.

In terms of your Swiss Italian match, I meant to tell you on the other thread that you seem a bit more "northern" than some of the other Albanian results I've seen.

I've seen people from Kosovo get Tuscans on their list, and some Tuscans get Kosovo on their list, but after people from closer areas. I think the difference may be more "Gaulish" in western Italians, and some "Slavic" in people in the Balkans.

I think I may have mentioned before that there's one gedmatch oracle which has no Tuscans or Northern Italians, only Southern Italians. On that one, I get Bulgarians and Albanians first and second, but not great fits, naturally.

I'm just relying on memory.

 

[Duarte]

... strange, ... and you’ve got the Rich People level, ... lol

Hi Salento. Thanks by answering. LOL These are my active level and my available features. In fact, strange. Maybe I have the rich people level but this is not available to poor countries like mine, for example, lol lol lol. Maybe It was a ofer by limited time or my kit do not have sufficient SNPs to turn on the medical analysis, I don’t know. Meanwhile, still continues strange because my standard kit nowadays is MyHeritage health + ancestry, that contain almost all SNPs refers to traits. I am not using more the FTDNA kit in MTA.

 

[Palermo Trapani]

Guys, I wanted to post this in another thread ... genetic origin of Minoans and Mycenaeans, due to the discussion going on there... but I felt its more appropriate here.

Is it me or quite a few Italians, people with Italian ancestry (and even some Iberians) have very close matches with Bronze Age Balkans, be it Illyrians or Thracians and even ancient Greeks?

Would this be because of some Southern European genetic continuum?

Not only that, but as has been previously stated in various threads on Eupedia, Albanians and Greeks are quite close autosomally to southern Italians, and even Tuscans (who I consider North Italy).

I personally get modeled by some calculators with the third closest population autosomally to Swiss Italians, which I find quite peculiar and interesting.

Here are my updated MTA results (I upgraded to Zeus Level as they were offering the update for only $50 bucks!, so I grabbed it). These results support the Dodecad 7B results I posted earlier. Not only do I get reasonable genetic distances with ancient Greeks, I also get matches on the MTA Chroma analysis as well. I apologize if the images are poorly presented, I had to do 3 separate snips.

 

[Salento]

Here are my updated MTA results (I upgraded to Zeus Level as they were offering the update for only $50 bucks!, so I grabbed it). These results support the Dodecad 7B results I posted earlier. Not only do I get reasonable genetic distances with ancient Greeks, I also get matches on the MTA Chroma analysis as well. I apologize if the images are poorly presented, I had to do 3 separate snips.


View attachment 12043View attachment 12045View attachment 12044

... comparing the Mycenaeans, ...

they’re closer to you than me by about 5 points.

(some of Puglia was part of Magna Graecia)

... nice results

 

[Duarte]

Here are my updated MTA results (I upgraded to Zeus Level as they were offering the update for only $50 bucks!, so I grabbed it). These results support the Dodecad 7B results I posted earlier. Not only do I get reasonable genetic distances with ancient Greeks, I also get matches on the MTA Chroma analysis as well. I apologize if the images are poorly presented, I had to do 3 separate snips.


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Welcome to team @Palermo Trapani.
MTA is a interesting and fun website of genetics. They have a great number and variety of ancient samples and are advancing at each updated. Nothing in this world is absolutely perfect, but I think that they try to do the best to the users. Cheers

 

[Carlos]

New results.
I get all the heads from Ullastret... Ilergetes?

 

[Duarte]

New results.
I get all the heads from Ullastret... Ilergetes?

Good morning dear friend @Carlos (and @Salento too). Nice results, Carlos. I just have 125 samples in my MTA level (Zeus+). Between these 125 samples, we have these coincidences:

@Salento: As you can see, @Carlos is in a much more superior level of rich people. His is much more ‘plus’ then mine, LOL.

Cheers

 

[Salento]

Welcome to team @Palermo Trapani.
MTA is a interesting and fun website of genetics. They have a great number and variety of ancient samples and are advancing at each updated. Nothing in this world is absolutely perfect, but I think that they try to do the best to the users. Cheers

... wrong label, but SZ1 Trumps over, ... and over, ... lol

 

[Duarte]

Wow. 100% Gallo-Roman, lol lol. They make labeling mistakes. @ Stuvannè had already warned about this.

 

[Salento]

Wow. 100% Gallo-Roman, lol lol. They make labeling mistakes. @ Stuvannè had already warned about this.

... oops, I was cleaning the imgur pics and something went wrong, ... I re-uploaded the pic

... or: even the Gods disagree with the Label :grin:

 

[Angela]

Everyone remembers that Ostrogoth Chief is closest genetically to a Pontic Greek, right?

As for the rest, can't play because I only paid for 50 samples. My match wouldn't be below 14 anyway, because that's where it cuts off.