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**Dibran** · 09-04-19, 00:51

Free upload and calculator. Just signup and upload. You can delete it after too. It compares you against a database of ancient samples and models you based on the closest matching populations. Here’s my results. Upgrades only show hidden matches. Doesn’t change the results. Blue dots are confirmed populations. The darker the closer you are. More faded more distant. Red are those where few samples for said population exist so not as conclusive.

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

1. Central Roman (590 AD) (7.169)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.684)
3. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (11.61)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.27)
5. Central Roman (670 AD) (13.04)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (13.92)
7. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (13.96)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.09)
9. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (14.09)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.39)
11. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (15.68)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (15.75)
13. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (15.96)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (18.38)
15. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (19.67)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (19.85)
17. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (20.02)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (20.07)
19. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (20.31)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (20.36)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Greek_Thessaly (7.839)
2. Greek (9.494)
3. Tuscan (10.09)
4. Central_Greek (12.00)
5. [Hidden] - upgrade your account
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account
7. [Hidden] - upgrade your account
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account

**Gash** · 09-04-19, 01:21

**Joey37** · 09-04-19, 01:26

C E L T I C
P R I D E

Celt + Gaul (6.551)
Celt + Frank (7.028)
Celt (8.141)
Gaul (9.05)
Frank (10.45)

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**Dibran** · 09-04-19, 02:10

Originally Posted by Gash

The question I have is, how confident are we that Roman sample in the Balkans is genetically Roman? It seems Balkan people get more Roman than Illyrian and people of Roman heritage are getting Illyrian and Thracian first. Spaniards and north Italians. Then south Slavs are mostly Scythian and Avar with some mix of Roman and Celt or Germanic. It can be a bit confusing. Lol.

**hrvclv** · 09-04-19, 02:16

**Salento** · 09-04-19, 04:20

**davef** · 09-04-19, 04:28

Originally Posted by Salento

Dang splitting hairs much?

hellenic Roman
roman greek
ancient greek
central ancient Hellenic Roman mycenaenoid

**Ernekar** · 09-04-19, 04:33

delete....

**Salento** · 09-04-19, 04:47

Originally Posted by davef

Dang splitting hairs much?

hellenic Roman
roman greek
ancient greek
central ancient Hellenic Roman mycenaenoid

"I know that I know nothing" therefore ”VENI VIDI VICI”

Yep, LOL

**leperrine** · 09-04-19, 06:58

**Yaan** · 09-04-19, 07:29

Scythian + Roman (9.16)
Gaul + Roman (13.61)
Gaul (16.11)
Roman (16.16)
Scythian (18.39)

**matty74** · 09-04-19, 07:58

I had no idea that my DNA was so "British" given my family tree and what I know about my ancestry. Mostly Norway, Denmark, Ostfriesland (Lower Saxony), Mecklenburg, Hannover along with some distant English, French and Irish. I'm guessing due to my American ethnicity and how mixed we are as a people, it may look a lot like the British Isles, who are also a hodgepodge of people from NW Europe.

Your closest Ancient populations

Longobard + Saxon (3.065)
Celt + Longobard (3.315)
Longobard (5.104)
Celt (6.764)
Saxon (7.239)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

1. Pict (670 AD) (4.452)
2. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.104)
3. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.469)
4. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (5.941)
5. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (6.126)
6. Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) (6.764)
7. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (6.875)
8. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (7.22)
9. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (7.239)
10. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (7.539)
11. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.546)
12. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (7.637)
13. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.64)
14. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (7.847)
15. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (7.95)
16. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.037)
17. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.04)
18. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (8.084)
19. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.12)
20. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (8.14)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Irish (3.811)
2. West_Scottish (4.094)
3. Orcadian (4.193)
4. North_Dutch (4.377)
5. Southeast_English (4.667)
6. Southwest_English (5.083)
7. Danish (6.023)
8. Welsh (7.603)

**matty74** · 09-04-19, 09:52

**TardisBlue** · 09-04-19, 14:05

My results are consistent with my ancestry, and I always end up midpoint between my 2 main populations.

**Dibran** · 09-04-19, 14:05

Originally Posted by Salento

"I know that I know nothing" therefore ”VENI VIDI VICI”

Yep, LOL

Our results are mostly the same

**Dema** · 09-04-19, 14:18

Your closest Ancient populations...

Roman (7.957)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (8.832)
Gallo-Roman + Hellenic Roman (10.58)
Gallo-Roman (12.61)
Hellenic Roman (15.09)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

1. Central Roman (590 AD) (7.957)
3. Central Roman (590 AD) (9.448)
5. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (12.61)
7. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (15.09)
9. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (15.37)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Kosovan (3.825)
2. Bulgarian (6.513)
3. Greek (8.016)
4. Bosnian (8.594)

**Salento** · 09-04-19, 15:10

Originally Posted by Dibran

Our results are mostly the same

At first sight, It looks similar.

The algorithm randomly hides some populations, probably the Illyrians are hidden in our case, especially if we don't carry as much.

**Duarte** · 09-04-19, 15:25

Thanks for the indication @Gibran. Very fun :)

**New Englander** · 09-04-19, 18:07

Your closest Ancient populations...

Hellenic Roman

Hellenic RomansRomansOstrogoths

Roman + Ostrogoth (6.621)
Hellenic Roman + Roman (6.761)
Hellenic Roman (8.164)
Roman (8.475)
Ostrogoth (16.36)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

1. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (8.164)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (8.475)
3. Central Roman (590 AD) (10.19)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.45)
5. Central Roman (590 AD) (12.54)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (13.69)
7. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (14.15)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (16.12)
9. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (16.36)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Italian_Abruzzo (5.612)
2. West_Sicilian (6.496)
3. Greek (7.806)
4. Tuscan (8.618)

**Angela** · 09-04-19, 18:15

I think I have everyone "beat" in the "Roman" category. :)

Anyone know the specific sample numbers they're using? I'd like to look them up.

If this company knows what it's doing, I'm closer to them than to any modern population, including Italian ones.

Maybe I should change my avatar? :) Vibia Sabina:

**Dibran** · 09-04-19, 18:39

Originally Posted by Angela

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I wonder the same. Me and my father are closest to Roman/Ancient Greeks/Hellenic Romans. The Roman samples I am close to are apparently early middle ages. I would love to know if they're on GEDMATCH for comparison.

**Dibran** · 09-04-19, 18:46

Originally Posted by Dema

Your closest Ancient populations...

Roman (7.957)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (8.832)
Gallo-Roman + Hellenic Roman (10.58)
Gallo-Roman (12.61)
Hellenic Roman (15.09)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

1. Central Roman (590 AD) (7.957)
3. Central Roman (590 AD) (9.448)
5. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (12.61)
7. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (15.09)
9. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (15.37)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Kosovan (3.825)
2. Bulgarian (6.513)
3. Greek (8.016)
4. Bosnian (8.594)

Gallo Roman. Theres a first. Haven't seen any Albanian get it so far. Pretty cool.

**Dibran** · 09-04-19, 18:48

Originally Posted by Salento

At first sight, It looks similar.

The algorithm randomly hides some populations, probably the Illyrians are hidden in our case, especially if we don't carry as much.

Yea. Someone who did the upgrade mentioned it doesn't actually change the breakdown. It just reveals hidden matches that are more distant, both on the stats and map itself with pinpointed samples. Thracian is not astronomically far by itself, but I am closer to the "Central Roman" samples from the early middle ages. Do we know where these Roman samples can be found? Gedmatch?

**Angela** · 09-04-19, 18:57

Salento, are you closer to the 590 AD sample or the 670 AD sample?

Is anyone closer to the 670 AD sample?

The "Roman" samples from 670 AD have to be the ones from the Langobard cemetery in Piemonte, who were very modern "southern" Italian like. The 570 AD samples are the non-Langobard samples from their settlement in modern day Hungary?

I've got that fst of 3. something with only one of those 590 AD samples. The others are higher.

@Dibran,
I think the Gallo Roman number shows Celtic/Gallic admixture. It makes sense given my ancestral areas. They were called Celt/Ligurians.

Ed. Here is where we discussed the Amorim/Krause paper on the Langobards:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...mbard+cemetery

Whether the "southern" people in the cemetery in Szolad were actual Romans, possible because there were Roman forts and villas in the area, or this genotype was common in the whole area, I don't know.

I wonder if the company would adjust the results to include the sample number?

**Salento** · 09-04-19, 19:09

Central Roman 590 AD is my top match, a bit like yours, but not as close.
My 3rd is a Hellenic Roman 670 AD.

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