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EBA Mokrin and their ancient matches. My Deep Dive Mokrin matches:

EBA Mokrin and modern populations
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SZ1 got 17 Centuries younger, ... and a new name:

... this changes everything, ... so many posts and assumptions all based on a mistaken identity :petrified:

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Mytrueancestry is wrong, because the supplementary information of the study it is from, confirms that SZ1 is a Bronze Age sample.
 

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This makes me wonder. I think they need to cross check their data base, because I think my samples list is wrong. Every other calculator puts me much closer to samples that MTA puts me way off from.

Jovialis: Do you know what is the calculator Mytrueancestry is using. Or do they have their own. I like you get closer distances on some samples that MTA has me further away from even though for example many of the same samples that show up in my top 100 in MTA show up in my top 100 using Dodecad various calculators, MDLP or even Eurogenes K13/K15.
 
This makes me wonder. I think they need to cross check their data base, because I think my samples list is wrong. Every other calculator puts me much closer to samples that MTA puts me way off from.

... agree, ... also some of the ancient kits I uploaded don’t quite match their own kits, ... but I don’t know for sure which one is better.
 
Jovialis: Do you know what is the calculator Mytrueancestry is using. Or do they have their own. I like you get closer distances on some samples that MTA has me further away from even though for example many of the same samples that show up in my top 100 in MTA show up in my top 100 using Dodecad various calculators, MDLP or even Eurogenes K13/K15.

It seems to be close to Eurogenes, but I think it is their own version. However, despite the calculator, if they are not labeling the samples correctly, there is a major issue they should fix. Maybe SZ1 is an isolated incident. idk
 
Modern populations distances are much similar to Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet. See my modern results in both calculators:

MTA
[h=3]Your closest genetic modern populations...[/h]
Info [FONT=&quot][/FONT]

1. Portuguese (6.307)
2. Spanish_Extremadura (7.061)
3. Spanish_Galicia (7.266)
4. Spanish_Cantabria (7.592)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.609)
6. Spanish_Murcia (7.860)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (7.977)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (9.082)

Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

Distance to:Duarte
6.26967304Portuguese
7.00658976Spanish_Extremadura
7.37605586Spanish_Galicia
7.63178223Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
7.68158838Spanish_Murcia
7.77076573Spanish_Cantabria
7.99125772Spanish_Cataluna
8.72978808FRA_Septimania
9.06899112Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
 
It seems to be close to Eurogenes, but I think it is their own version. However, despite the calculator, if they are not labeling the samples correctly, there is a major issue they should fix. Maybe SZ1 is an isolated incident. idk

Jovialis: Ok, thanks. I agree, they need to do a review to ensure the samples are labeled correctly. Hopefully SZ1 is the only one not labeled correctly.
 
Modern populations distances are much similar to Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet. See my modern results in both calculators:

MTA
Your closest genetic modern populations...


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1. Portuguese (6.307)
2. Spanish_Extremadura (7.061)
3. Spanish_Galicia (7.266)
4. Spanish_Cantabria (7.592)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.609)
6. Spanish_Murcia (7.860)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (7.977)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (9.082)

Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

Distance to:Duarte
6.26967304Portuguese
7.00658976Spanish_Extremadura
7.37605586Spanish_Galicia
7.63178223Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
7.68158838Spanish_Murcia
7.77076573Spanish_Cantabria
7.99125772Spanish_Cataluna
8.72978808FRA_Septimania
9.06899112Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha

Duarte: Nice work. Thanks(y)
 
Well I don't understand much about all this genetics stuff but I've heard out there that there are samples that under the label of Latinos are actually Etruscans and many other samples under various labels that are actually Logombards, I don't know if it's true or not, but that's what they say out there.
 
MTA

1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.258)

2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.723)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.458)
4. Southwest_French (8.469)
5. Spanish_Aragon (8.66)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (9.217)
7. Spanish_Extremadura (9.510)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (9.892)


k15

Distance to:Carlos
6.28936404Spanish_Cantabria
7.76821086Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
8.48681330Southwest_French
8.50177628Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
8.69507907Spanish_Aragon
9.26335252Spanish_Cataluna
9.56104597Spanish_Extremadura
9.94264049Spanish_Andalucia
9.96101902Spanish_Valencia
10.08261375Portuguese
10.18418873Spanish_Murcia
10.92309022Spanish_Galicia
14.68223416French
15.65960089French_Basque
16.06824508North_Italian
19.05653956South_Dutch
21.71067710Southwest_English
22.90593809Tuscan
23.14467109West_German
23.45287402Southeast_English
25.09139095Austrian
25.18253363East_German
25.37154114North_German
25.39016739Irish
25.86003094Serbian

A small jump between Castile and Leon and Southwest France but let's see if you understand me.
Now with the cursor I can not select what I want to copy the whole block by default.

K13
Distance to:Carlos
5.99357156Spanish_Cantabria
6.65038345Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
7.07265862Southwest_French
7.98839158Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
8.09111241Spanish_Aragon
8.12444460Spanish_Galicia
8.17633781Spanish_Andalucia
8.41938240Spanish_Cataluna
8.42352064Spanish_Extremadura
9.21772749Spanish_Murcia
9.24409541Portuguese
9.59140761Spanish_Valencia
13.08031727French
16.10858777French_Basque
16.42111141North_Italian
18.71481232South_Dutch
19.45701159West_German
22.24301688Southwest_English
22.79234740Southeast_English
23.37091141Tuscan
24.91886233Orcadian
25.11564652Austrian
25.44782898Irish
25.49558393West_Scottish
26.67815211North_Dutch

G25
Distance to:Carlos_scaled
0.02008536Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.02180489Spanish_Galicia
0.02231244Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.02269035Spanish_Andalucia
0.02312202Portuguese
0.02489288Spanish_Valencia
0.02490052Spanish_Menorca
0.02522834Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02553041Spanish_Aragon
0.02585001Spanish_Cataluna
0.02603826Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02618920Spanish_Eivissa
0.02618944Spanish_Alacant
0.02619990Spanish_Pirineu
0.02712183Spanish_Lleida
0.02722912Spanish_Baleares
0.02793500Spanish_Cantabria
0.02795867Spanish_Extremadura
0.02815267Spanish_Murcia
0.02842729Spanish_Castello
0.02852608Spanish_Barcelones
0.02860053Spanish_Mallorca
0.02901544Spanish_Penedes
0.02905788Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02921315Spanish_Girona

And here the homogeneity is bestial, we are one,
 
Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet has a little bit different populations and distances when compared to K15 and MTA

Mine

Distance to:Duarte
5.85985495Spanish_Extremadura
5.90686888Spanish_Andalucia
6.03160012Spanish
6.40790137Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.60645896Spanish_Murcia
6.78030235Portuguese
6.88743784Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
6.90646074Spanish_Galicia
6.93357772Spanish_Valencia
7.19974305Spanish_Cantabria
7.83324964Spanish_Cataluna
8.59401536Spanish_Aragon
9.19530859FRA_Septimania
9.58162304Southwest_French
11.26589544Swiss-Italian2
12.12645043IT_Orobia
12.21640700IT_Piedmont
12.33157735IT_Aosta_Valley
12.52173311FRA_Provence
12.53558934Swiss_Italian
12.69648770IT_Lombardy
12.77490509IT_Insubria
12.94127892French
13.94228819IT_Veneto
13.94905015IT_Trentino
 
I will carry out a uniparental introspection based on the mitochondrial haplogroup to support a multidisciplinary logistics based on the correlation of old data to see if I see something.

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Dark Ages top 10
(Bronze Age SZ1 made the list), lol

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Dark Ages top 10
(Bronze Age SZ1 made the list), lol

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I believe they were betrayed for not verifying that SZ1 sample is from a period much earlier than that of all other samples. OMG! :LOL:(y)

[h=3]“Two longobard-associated cemeteries[/h]We performed a deep genomic characterization of individuals buried in two cemeteries of the sixth to seventh centuries CE that have material culture associated with the Longobards. Both are considered key sites with regard to the proposed migration from Pannonia to Italy. The first cemetery, Szólád, is located in present-day Hungary (Supplementary Figure 1). There are 45 graves (Fig. 1b), all of which are dated to the middle third of the sixth century based on a combination of stylistic elements of the grave goods and radiocarbon (2-sigma range of 412–604 CE, Supplementary Table 1) analysis14. Archeological, stable isotope, and mtDNA (HVS-1) analyses suggested that Szólád was occupied for only ~20/30 years by a mobile group of Longobard-era settlers14. The female to male ratio (sexing being based primarily on genetic data, or in its absence, anatomy) is 0.65. Graves in this cemetery are organized such that a core group (N = 18), mostly of male individuals, is surrounded by a half-ring of females (N = 11) (Supplementary Figure 2). Most of these individuals lie in elaborate graves with ledge walls and wooden chambers all in the same orientation, furnished with numerous artifacts such as beads, pottery, swords, and shields. The remaining 16 Longobard-period graves are more diverse in relation to the sex of the individuals, as well as to the quality of grave construction and richness of artifacts. Archeologists also recovered two bodies (AV1, AV2) that derive from a later occupation of the region by the Avars in the fill of the Longobard-period grave (SZ27)15, as well the skeletal remains from an individual dating to the Bronze Age 10 m north of the cemetery (SZ1). See Supplementary Note 1, Supplementary Figures 111, and Supplementary Table 1 for the archeological context of Szólád.”

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06024-4



 
MTA says the Roopkund Lake traveler I3350 is closest to me, he is my #1 match. However, Dodecad Globe 13 indicates I am pretty distant:

Distance to:Jovialis
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5.32357023I3404:É_Harney_et_al._2019
6.43343610I6937:É_Harney_et_al._2019
8.52763742I3350:É_Harney_et_al._2019

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@Jovialis that’s also my top match for now, ... was R1548, ...

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@Jovialis that’s also my top match for now, ... was R1548, ...

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R1548 was also mine, and it is also a sample that is considerably distant from both of us. Both of those samples are "south" of south Italians, and pulled further to the east. I think there must be something wrong here, because it doesn't make sense.
 
FWIW, since MTA is closest to Eurogene K15, not even that calculator puts me close to R1548:

Distance to:Jovialis
4.75335671R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.51492520R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro
6.08097032R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
6.09821285R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.32203290R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.38034482R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
6.40971918R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina
6.54137600R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.57746152R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.83912275R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
6.90821974R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.72365846R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.92461356R1548_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
8.22504711R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
8.34279929R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
8.42568098R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
8.51677169R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.62258082R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.88838568R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
8.90012359R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
8.90951738R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
9.22901945R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
9.41190735R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
9.43142619R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
9.47611207R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna

 

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