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@Duarte:

Directions to the Kingdom of Heaven:
You go to where the men speak Italian, and then continue until they speak something else” lol

“Rise a Knight“

 
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New for me


10. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) (14.62)

Modern Group

1. Southwest_French (9.072)
2. Spanish_Aragon (10.55)
3. Spanish_Valencia (11.45)
4. Spanish_Cantabria (11.72)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (12.31)
6. Spanish_Andalucia (12.80)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (12.92)
8. French_Basque (13.15)

Similar Samples

Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) (13.21)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (13.22)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 BC) (14.03)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (15.14)
Halstatt Celt (775 BC) (15.15)



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You have to amortize the investment.


 
@Salento @Carlos (y):):grin:

I did a new upload of raw data of FTDNA. New informations appeared. I recomend that all do the same. Hugs :)
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New pics and respective descriptions:
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My Tuscan Knight Crusader (post #878) ... now ... Crusader
(just a graphic update, I guess) :)


Your Tuscan Knight Crusader wasn't a Tuscan but someone of European and Near Eastern ancestry and can be modelled, besides being a mixture of Tuscan and Lebanese, also as a mixture of North Italian and Lebanese, and Iberian and Lebanese and so on I guess.
 
@Pax
I didn’t name the Tuscan Knight, MTA did, besides, I like how “Tuscan Knight” sound :)

(Lo so che usano la somiglianza genetica per assegnare nomi a questi personaggi in provetta)
 
I too have this Crusader guy (Tuscan/Lebanon) from 1250 AD in my ancestral timeline.
 
@Pax
I didn’t name the Tuscan Knight, MTA did, besides, I like how “My Tuscan Knight” sound :)

(Lo so che usano la somiglianza genetica per assegnare nomi a questi personaggi in provetta)

It is not correct how MTA labeled these samples, in a PCA these samples do not even group with the Tuscans. 12.82 and 13.13 are both significant distances. No person who is 100% Tuscan can get Tuscan at those distances. Being they were mixed they end up in an isolated area that doesn't really correspond to any Italian population.

Unfortunately, these tools, rather than clarifying, risk only increasing the confusion that already exists around genetics.


Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) - SI-41

Y R-DF27 - mtDNA HV0a

1. Italian_Abruzzo (12.59)
2. Tuscan (12.82)
3. West_Sicilian (14.53)
4. North_Italian (16.20)



Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) - SI-53

Y R-CTS300 - mtDNA T2

1. Tuscan (13.13)

2. West_Sicilian (13.22)
3. Italian_Abruzzo (14.44)
4. Maltese (15.00)
5. North_Italian (15.60)
 
It is not correct how MTA labeled these samples, in a PCA these samples do not even group with the Tuscans. 12.82 and 13.13 are both significant distances. No person who is 100% Tuscan can get Tuscan at those distances. Being they were mixed they end up in an isolated area that doesn't really correspond to any Italian population.

Unfortunately, these tools, rather than clarifying, risk only increasing the confusion that already exists around genetics.


Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) - SI-41

Y R-DF27 - mtDNA HV0a

1. Italian_Abruzzo (12.59)
2. Tuscan (12.82)
3. West_Sicilian (14.53)
4. North_Italian (16.20)



Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) - SI-53

Y R-CTS300 - mtDNA T2

1. Tuscan (13.13)

2. West_Sicilian (13.22)
3. Italian_Abruzzo (14.44)
4. Maltese (15.00)
5. North_Italian (15.60)


I don’t take it too seriously, they’re more like an indication, a curiosity, ... hobby and entertainment.

... new kit (re-upload)

Archaeological Map:
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Deep Dive Map:
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Timeline:
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(Timelapse added only the Crusaders)
 
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Lots of updates recently, think I spoke to soon in my other post. Im still confused about British ancestry (guess they were not in the island for very long? Im MtDNA J so that makes little sense) as well as the Middle Age map.

I still cant figure out how to attach the map pictures like everyone else, so this is just typed out......

Ancient Map:
Roman Hispanic (650 AD)
Hellenic Roman x 3 (760 AD)
Roman (590 AD) x 4
Ostrogoth (300 AD)
Crusader (1250 AD)
Ancient Greek (1350 BC) x 2
Red Dot southern Spain unlabeled
Bronze Age
Red Dot Sicily unlabeled (2200 BC)
Minoan (2000 BC) x 2
Hittite (1875 BC) x 2
Late Bronze Age
Ancient Greek (1350 BC) x 4
Illyrian (1250 BC)
Red Dot Armenia unlabeled (1500 BC)
Iron Age
Scythian (270 BC)
Thracian (450 BC)
Early Mid Age
Roman Hispanic (650 AD)
Hellenic Roman x 4 (760 AD)
Roman (590 AD) x 4
Ostrogoth (300 AD)
Roman Citizen (250 AD)
Red Dot Eastern Coastal Spain unlabeled
Gpid (450 AD)
Mid Age
Crusader (1250 AD) x 2
Red Dot Eastern Coastal Spain unlabeled (1100 AD) x 5
Red Dot Hungary unlabeled (1244 AD)

Who else got Crusader and Roman Citizen?
 
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[h=3]Population genetic analysis of nuclear DNA[/h]On the nuclear level we merged the SNP data of our three ancient individuals with 2,367 modern individuals34,35 and 294 ancient genomes36 and performed PCA on the joined data set. We found the ancient Egyptian samples falling distinct from modern Egyptians, and closer towards Near Eastern and European samples (Fig. 4a, Supplementary Fig. 3, Supplementary Table 5). In contrast, modern Egyptians are shifted towards sub-Saharan African populations. Model-based clustering using ADMIXTURE37(Fig. 4b, Supplementary Fig. 4) further supports these results and reveals that the three ancient Egyptians differ from modern Egyptians by a relatively larger Near Eastern genetic component, in particular a component found in Neolithic Levantine ancient individuals36(Fig. 4b). In contrast, a substantially larger sub-Saharan African component, found primarily in West-African Yoruba, is seen in modern Egyptians compared to the ancient samples. In both PCA and ADMIXTURE analyses, we did not find significant differences between the three ancient samples, despite two of them having nuclear contamination estimates over 5%, which indicates no larger impact of modern DNA contamination. We used outgroup f3-statistics38 (Fig. 5a,b) for the ancient and modern Egyptians to measure shared genetic drift with other ancient and modern populations, using Mbuti as outgroup. We find that ancient Egyptians are most closely related to Neolithic and Bronze Age samples in the Levant, as well as to Neolithic Anatolian and European populations (Fig. 5a,b). When comparing this pattern with modern Egyptians, we find that the ancient Egyptians are more closely related to all modern and ancient European populations that we tested (Fig. 5b), likely due to the additional African component in the modern population observed above. By computing f3-statistics38, we determined whether modern Egyptians could be modelled as a mixture of ancient Egyptian and other populations. Our results point towards sub-Saharan African populations as the missing component (Fig. 5c), confirming the results of the ADMIXTURE analysis. We replicated the results based on f3-statistics using only the least contaminated sample (with <1% contamination estimate) and find very similar results (Supplementary Fig. 5), confirming that the moderate levels of modern DNA contamination in two of our samples did not affect our analyses. Finally, we used two methods to estimate the fractions of sub-Saharan African ancestry in ancient and modern Egyptians. Both qpAdm35 and the f4-ratio test39 reveal that modern Egyptians inherit 8% more ancestry from African ancestors than the three ancient Egyptians do, which is also consistent with the ADMIXTURE results discussed above. Absolute estimates of African ancestry using these two methods in the three ancient individuals range from 6 to 15%, and in the modern samples from 14 to 21% depending on method and choice of reference populations (see Supplementary Note 1, Supplementary Fig. 6, Supplementary Tables 5–8). We then used ALDER40 to estimate the time of a putative pulse-like admixture event, which was estimated to have occurred 24 generations ago (700 years ago), consistent with previous results from Henn and colleagues16. While this result by itself does not exclude the possibility of much older and continuous gene flow from African sources, the substantially lower African component in our 2,000-year-old ancient samples suggests that African gene flow in modern Egyptians occurred indeed predominantly within the last 2,000 years.


[h=3]Estimating phenotypes[/h]Finally, we analysed several functionally relevant SNPs in sample JK2911, which had low contamination and relatively high coverage. This individual had a derived allele at the SLC24A5 locus, which contributes to lighter skin pigmentation and was shown to be at high frequency in Neolithic Anatolia41, consistent with the ancestral affinity shown above. Other relevant SNPs carry the ancestral allele, including HERC2 and LCT, which suggest dark-coloured eyes and lactose intolerance (Supplementary Table 9).
 
Hello RagnarofMacedon,
Tyrolean is the people of Tyrol, historically the Tyrole; In German: Tirol; In Italian: Tirolo, is a historical region in the Alps; in Northern Italy and western Austria.
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Hugs:)

Hey man,i know its region but what tribes was there , its german,celtic or roman ?
I got two Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) and one Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD)
in Ancient samples... so im currious what population is...
HUgs back :D
 
Hey man,i know its region but what tribes was there , its german,celtic or roman ?
I got two Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) and one Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD)
in Ancient samples... so im currious what population is...
HUgs back :D

Probably Celts or an admixture of Celts and newcomers Lombards. Also it’s possible a bit of ancient Roman admixture.(y)
 
Does anyone know what percentage of Native American ancestry is necessary to have a point on the map of the Americas?...
 
Hmm no real changes for me. Nothing really exciting or notable here

[h=3]Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...[/h]
1. Pict (670 AD) (4.452) - CL83 (Click for more info)
2. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.104) - CL92 (Click for more info)
3. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.469) - I5383 (Click for more info)
4. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (5.472) - I2097 (Click for more info)
5. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (5.603) - I2452 (Click for more info)
6. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (5.941) - SZ15 (Click for more info)
7. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (6.126) - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info)
8. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (6.271) - I1767 (Click for more info)
9. Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) (6.764) - VDP-A6 (Click for more info)
10. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (6.875) - 6DRIF-18 (Click for more info)
11. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (7.22) - Unknown (Click for more info)
12. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (7.239) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
13. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (7.271) - I2981 (Click for more info)
14. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (7.539) - I3875 (Click for more info)
15. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.546) - SZ12 (Click for more info)
16. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (7.637) - CL146 (Click for more info)
17. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.64) - SZ14 (Click for more info)
18. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) (7.778) - I2568 (Click for more info)
19. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (7.847) - CL145 (Click for more info)
20. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (7.95) - AED_249 (Click for more info)
21. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.037) - 6DRIF-23 (Click for more info)
22. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.04) - CL84 (Click for more info)
23. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (8.084) - NW_255 (Click for more info)
24. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.12) - SZ4 (Click for more info)
25. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (8.14) - Rathlin2 (Click for more info)
26. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (8.208) - Shohola (Click for more info)
27. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (8.313) - ALH_1 (Click for more info)
28. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) (8.39) - I5367 (Click for more info)
29. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.569) - 6DRIF-3 (Click for more info)
30. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) (8.625) - DA119 (Click for more info)
31. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (8.781) - Sigtuna grt035 (Click for more info)
32. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.802) - SZ7 (Click for more info)
33. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.85) - SZ22 (Click for more info)
34. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (8.853) - Hinxton 1 (Click for more info)
35. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (8.935) - Sigtuna stg021 (Click for more info)
36. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (8.941) - SZ23 (Click for more info)
37. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.008) - ALH_10 (Click for more info)
38. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) (9.023) - I3255 (Click for more info)
39. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.114) - SZ8 (Click for more info)
40. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (9.485) - SZ38 (Click for more info)
41. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (9.594) - Rise577 (Click for more info)
42. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (9.62) - I0112 (Click for more info)
43. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (9.788) - Hinxton HS1 (Click for more info)
44. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (9.908) - I12162 (Click for more info)
45. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.91) - SZ9 (Click for more info)
46. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) (9.952) - Rise61 (Click for more info)
47. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.13) - CL93 (Click for more info)
48. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (10.4) - I5471 (Click for more info)
49. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) (10.43) - SZ16 (Click for more info)
50. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.6) - 3DRIF-16 (Click for more info)
51. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) (10.67) - I2447 (Click for more info)
52. Celtic / Hungary (590 AD) (10.7) - SZ11 (Click for more info)
53. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.81) - CL151 (Click for more info)
54. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.82) - 6DRIF-21 (Click for more info)
55. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (11.08) - I5512 (Click for more info)
56. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) (11.2) - Rise150 (Click for more info)
57. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.21) - SZ2 (Click for more info)
58. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (11.25) - Sigtuna 84001 (Click for more info)
59. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (11.32) - BIM_33 (Click for more info)
60. Ireland Copper Age (1635 BC) (11.33) - Rathlin3 (Click for more info)
 
The original submission was updated and this is shown above. I submitted the same raw data DNA file again to create kit #2. Now I get different results, makes zero sense even though the map shows that the locations are the same, hence the same raw data.

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[h=3]Closest population distances[/h]
PopulationDistance
Spanish_Cantabria0.6410023
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha0.7893054
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon0.8538548
Southwest_French0.8604313
Spanish_Aragon0.878975
Spanish_Cataluna0.9328408
Spanish_Extremadura0.9642199
Spanish_Andalucia1.0068878




PopulationValue
Spanish_Cantabria71.6
French_Basque8.2
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha6.2
Gokhem24.4
French2.4
Orcadian1
Irish0.8
South_Dutch0.8
Southwest_English0.8
Spanish_Galicia0.8
North_Dutch0.6
Southeast_English0.4
Georgian0.2
Luhya0.2
Mongolian0.2
North_German0.2
Sandawe0.2
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon0.2
Uzbek0.2
West_German0.2
West_Norwegian0.2
West_Scottish0.2


 
New upload raw data, now from MyHeritage. Compared with the new upload done with data from FTDNA, there are some changes in Deep Dive and in Timeline. In Timeline the Portugal Bronze Age back again. In Deep Dive, Portugal Bronze Age back again, also back again the Thracian Bulgaria and now appears the Visigoth Germanic Girona.

Compare with the post #884:


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