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    The stages of a one's hair:
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    He just could not decide whether he wanted to be blond, brown or red haired or curly, wavy or straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    The stages of a one's hair:
    https://imgur.com/mFKtT7i
    https://imgur.com/Ii9iNck
    https://imgur.com/5EcdS3l
    https://imgur.com/Nn6QYuK
    https://imgur.com/q6Wdiei

    He just could not decide whether he wanted to be blond, brown or red haired or curly, wavy or straight.
    His hair was always great: thick and with lots of body. My husband and son have hair like that.

    My son also went through hair color changes. He was born with a thick head of black hair. My husband was overjoyed. :) Then, without it ever falling out it turned blonde and stayed like that until he was in his late teens. Then it turned sort of a medium brown.

    I think that hair color changes are more common than people think.



    His hair was already starting to turn lighter.

    Then he stayed blonde for a long time before turning light brown.

    Of course, it was my girl who wound up with the fine, thin, straight hair. He also wound up with a version of the Antinous nose. :)

    It also turned brown, much to her displeasure, so now she highlights it.
    Last edited by Angela; 07-06-19 at 01:14.


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    My daughter never went through as many of the color and curliness changes that my son went through. She had blond curly hair and then reddish brown curly hair, with a lighter streak in the middle. Both kids have nice thick hair courtesy of their Italian great grandfather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    Guess this guy's ethnicity:
    https://imgur.com/Pm6ZVUN
    A typical uber mountain Albanian type and also South Slav from the Dinaric Alps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    A typical uber mountain Albanian type and also South Slav from the Dinaric Alps.
    I don't see it. Maybe a Serb from Ljubljana Slovenia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    I don't see it. Maybe a Serb from Ljubljana Slovenia.
    Why? You think he's too light for being Albanian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    Why? You think he's too light for being Albanian?
    I have lived among Arvanites for a long time. I know what Albanians look like.

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    What is this young man's nationality?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    What is this young man's nationality?


    Northern French? Brittany?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    What is this young man's nationality?


    Rectangular face, square chin and slightly outgoing, light skin but not as clear as a Scandinavian, lightly encapsulated blue-colored eyes, dark tone, tending to green according to the intensity of light, medium blond hair, straight nose. European center: North-Italian, French, West German or Bavarian, Swiss, Austrian or Spanish from Northeast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    Northern French? Brittany?
    That square chin doesn't look French to me. Granted, I'm bad at this, and I don't say it doesn't exist in France, just that I haven't seen it much. To me it looks more German-like. So maybe German or Austrian…? (If the guy is actually French, just ignore me )

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    I have lived among Arvanites for a long time. I know what Albanians look like.
    Then you know nothing about Albanian phenotypes. They're "half breeds" at best, especially in Thrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    What is this young man's nationality?


    American. I find it hard to picture him only in 1 country and my first thought is that he's a mix. You know, the usual Irish/German/Italian etc. kind of mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    The stages of a one's hair:
    https://imgur.com/mFKtT7i
    https://imgur.com/Ii9iNck
    https://imgur.com/5EcdS3l
    https://imgur.com/Nn6QYuK
    https://imgur.com/q6Wdiei

    He just could not decide whether he wanted to be blond, brown or red haired or curly, wavy or straight.
    did his eye color somehow change from brown to green?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    Then you know nothing about Albanian phenotypes. They're "half breeds" at best, especially in Thrace.
    No half breeds in Thrace, they kept to their villages and did not intermarry. Plus at least half of Albania is in Greece. We can tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailchu View Post
    did his eye color somehow change from brown to green?
    Babies change their eye color from dark blue. His eyes are light hazel. Color depends on the light hitting the face.

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    The young man is Alberto Frezza, born in Milano, raised in Ethiopia, educated in American English schools.

    Here he is playing a fireman, Ryan something in an American tv series:




    Had never seen the show (I think it's a spin off of Grey's Anatomy), or heard of him, until I stumbled on an interview with Dermot Mulroney (also on the show) who said he thought Frezza looked very much like him. So, I checked.

    Dermot Patrick Mulroney:


    Alberto Frezza:



    His American is completely American, if you know what I mean, which is why he's not relegated to "foreigner" parts, and given his looks and what Americans are sure constitute all Italian looks, he's never played an Italian American to my knowledge. Always Irish/German, Irish, German, etc.

    Yet, in this interview, he looks completely Italian: gestures, facial expressions, and yes, even looks.

    No, it's not just the tan and darker hair with age.

    He's lucky: this chameleon ability is very useful for actors.

    To be honest, I don't think he's very good, but the female viewers seem to like him a lot. I think it's because a lot of his own personality goes into the portrayal.


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    Northern Italian with a bit of Celtic look to him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    Northern Italian with a bit of Celtic look to him?
    And a bit of Germanic. Mulroney also has some German in him. In the show Frezza actually does look like an Irish/German blend. I wound up watching some youtube bits just to see.

    Interesting that Mulroney is actually darker, and has a more "southern" nose for all the stereotypically thinking people out there. He still looks completely Irish/German to me.

    Another mostly German, but some Irish American actor, Jon Hamm from Mad Men:


    My Uncle Ferdinando, on the left as you look at the picture:



    Blue-green eyes, blonde as a child, turned darker haired as he aged. He was 6'1" and sturdily built and strong; very different from my father's more gracile build. My Uncle Luigi, next to him, stayed "dirty blonde" all through adulthood.

    That prominent, almost squarish chin runs through a lot of the central strip of Europe. That I didn't get. I did get the big head and long face, though, not my mother's nice oval.

    You can see why William Penn thought the Palatine Germans who flooded America in the early days weren't "white" enough, according to his definition, which meant blonde, blue-eyed and fair skinned. I think he forgot not all the people from the "Celtic fringe" fit that description either.

    Phenotypes can linger for a long time.

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    All that shows how difficult it is to give a "nationality" or "ethny" to an individual look; sometimes we can recognize a stereotype but with our european mixings we cannot be too sure of the nationality; phenotypeS have only a statistical value; so it's easier to judge upon groups than upon individuals, and yet, sometimes it is not so easy, according to regions of origin; it's why I don't play to these games too often, I should not have better results than the most of you. The n°5 cousin recalls me some Alsacians too.

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    Another 100% Italian actor who never plays "Italian" roles: Peter Facinelli

    In Twilight:




    In real life:



    Not even with dark hair do people see it:


    Paolo Seganti;


    Two actors from La Meglio Gioventu, one of my favorite series:

    Alessio Boni. He has a bit of a Clint Eastwood look to me.


    Luigi LoCascio-Sicilian stage and screen actor and an intellectual. He's a much better actor than Boni, fwiw.

    Last edited by Angela; 07-06-19 at 23:09.

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    @Moesan,

    5th cousin? If you're speaking of the non-actors in the personal photo, they're my father's older brothers.

    @Nik,

    100% Italian, although casting directors clearly see him as some typical Irish/German/English mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    No half breeds in Thrace, they kept to their villages and did not intermarry. Plus at least half of Albania is in Greece. We can tell.
    Albanians as Dna shows ( Gjenetika shqiptare) have Gothic and Slavic ancestry also, at about 30% of its population. In south Albania is more pronounced. So Albanian phenotype is very wide. One could see a person like him in Albania. So is the case among Greeks but in smaller percentage than Albanians. My daughter was watching a video of probability from MIT professors and happened the professor was a Greek(with accent) but phenotypically he looked Northern, nothing with an average Greek, so probably he was like me, with a distant Gothic heritage. By the way the professor was top of the line, my daughter was so fond of him, because he made probability look easy contrary to her woman professor at college who was making simple things hard to understand .
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    Italian director Bernardo Bertolucci from my father's Parma:


    Here he is with Marlon Brando. If Marlon looks northwest European, then so does Bertolucci.



    Tuscan director Franco Zeffirelli:




    Tuscan folk singer: Francesco de Gregori




    He has more refined features, like my Dad...


    Zucchero (Fornaciari) Italian blues singer/rocker from Regio Emilia in the province of Emilia. I always thought he looked British, especially when he was younger.





    His daughter Irene Fornaciari. I have a first cousin who could be her twin.




    I could post hundreds, but I think you see my point. People who look like this are not at all rare in Italy from Toscana north, and can even be found more rarely in the south. You'd have to really work hard to convince me that there's this much variation in other countries. :)

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    Many Italians have Northern roots. I knew a Sicilian had a pizzeria in queens, "Ariana pizzeria" and the owner was dirty blond blue eyes, unless he told you , one could never guess he was Sicilian

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