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    Polish DNA from studies on GEDmatch

    I've uploaded Polish samples from Pagani 2016, one is from Wrocław, one from Kohtla-Järve, two unspecified:

    Poles from Pagani et al. 2016:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27654910

    Pagani 2016 sample Pole1 Kohtla-Järve - kit BD1045630
    Pagani 2016 sample Pole2 - kit number JR7565919
    Pagani 2016 sample Pole3 - kit number PB4657964
    Pagani 2016 sample Pole4 Wroclaw - kit LG8363351

    From the spreadsheet with details about each sample:



    ^^^
    This is where the place is located: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohtla-J%C3%A4rve

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    Yesterday I have uploaded Poles from Behar et al. 2013:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25079123

    Behar 2013 sample Pole_Poland1 - kit number UR9122953
    Behar 2013 sample Pole_Poland2 - kit number GT5237590
    Behar 2013 sample Pole_Poland3 - kit number XV5220138
    Behar 2013 sample Pole_Poland5 - kit number QT5909459
    Behar 2013 sample Pole_Poland6 - kit number YA5670771
    Behar 2013 sample Pole_Poland9 - kit number PK5923501
    Behar 2013 sample Pole_Poland11 - kit number TF3777282
    Behar 2013 sample Pole12p_1m - kit number LZ6789348
    Behar 2013 sample Poland132 - kit number KZ8706898
    Behar 2013 sample Poland133 - kit number AZ8283838
    Behar 2013 sample Poland136 - kit number EK6054770
    Behar 2013 sample Poland137 - kit number TK3628144
    Behar 2013 sample Poland138 - kit number EZ6423511
    Behar 2013 sample Poland140 - kit number XF3966585
    Behar 2013 sample Poland141 - kit number DR5396941
    Behar 2013 sample Poland142 - kit number LK5514818
    Behar 2013 sample Poland143 - kit number GL2046169

    ^^^
    Apparently some of them are Estonian Poles (those which are not called Pole_Poland, are from Estonia).

    They also have matches from Estonia in One-To-Many.

    Estonia used to belong to Poland, but I think it is misleading that samples are labeled as "Poland133" etc.

    These famous Estonian Poles were first published by Behar in 2013/2014, not by Kushniarevich in 2015:

    https://polishgenes.blogspot.com/201...revich-et.html



    Kushniarevich used samples genotyped by Behar, but Behar didn't say that they were Poles from Estonia.

    Kushniarevich 2015 was the first study which labeled them properly as ethnic Polish minority in Estonia.

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    Also yesterday I uploaded Poles from Tambets et al. 2018:

    https://genomebiology.biomedcentral....059-018-1522-1

    Tambets 2018 sample Poland135 - kit number LK5810440
    Tambets 2018 sample Poland148 - kit number KC6230115
    Tambets 2018 sample Poland149 - kit number HE4756510
    Tambets 2018 sample Poland150 - kit number HN5578439
    Tambets 2018 sample Poland151 - kit number XD1211284

    ^^^
    Here is what these Polish samples get in Fig. 3 from this study:



    I think these are also Estonian Poles. They get Estonian matches:


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    Historically Latvia has had a larger Polish minority than Estonia, they should test also Latvian Poles.

    Edit:

    This study has Poles from Warsaw but so far I couldn't find where to download these genomes:

    https://www.cell.com/current-biology...822(08)00956-1

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    What about Lithuanian Poles, are they more like Lithuanians or more like mainland Polish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagne View Post
    What about Lithuanian Poles, are they more like Lithuanians or more like mainland Polish?
    They are probably intermediate between Lithuanians and North-Eastern Poles (Masovia and Podlachia).

    Also Poles from Suwałki Region are very Baltic, but maybe Yotvingian/Sudovian rather than Lithuanian.

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    My old HS principal and neighbor was born in Konigsberg (Kaliningrad) and his family had lived there for centuries. His son, (HS classmate of mine) took a DNA test and his ancestry was nearly 45% Scandinavian and the rest was Northwest European and "Germanic Europe." My classmate's mother was born in Oslo, so I assume that was a major factor.

    Another classmate had a grandmother that was born near Elk (Herzogskirchen?) and she has a trace amount of (11%) of Lithuanian and Scandinavian ancestry to go along with the rest of her "Northwestern European-British Isles" background. I believe that area is fairly close to Suwalki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty74 View Post
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    East Germans as a whole are on average about 1/2 Slavic and 1/2 Germanic. There can be exceptions, but "East_German" average in Eurogenes K15 on GEDmatch is about half Slavic.
    Last edited by Tomenable; 19-04-19 at 22:33.

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    The slavic ancestry that high in East Germany?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihype02 View Post
    The slavic ancestry that high in East Germany?
    Just look up for example the East_German reference (pop average) on Eurogenes K15 calculator spreadsheet.

    It can be modeled as 1/2 North Dutch or NW German + 1/2 Russian or East Ukrainian, with some extra ENF.

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