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    Lightbulb French or Spanish and English and Polish ? Help

    Hello, a friend just received her results, I have a hard time helping her to give an interpretation with Gedmatch. From what she knows, she lives in France and she has a Polish grandmother. But the results are still strange, I have trouble giving an interpretation, can you help me?


    Thank you so much !

    here is the kit number : EN3641736


    K13 results :

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French @ 7.165495
    2 Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.394144
    3 Southwest_French @ 8.888872
    4 Spanish_Cantabria @ 9.392292
    5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 9.587873
    6 Spanish_Galicia @ 10.672361
    7 Spanish_Valencia @ 11.027256
    8 South_Dutch @ 11.060924
    9 Portuguese @ 11.137468
    10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 11.253665
    11 Spanish_Aragon @ 11.497287
    12 Spanish_Murcia @ 11.638610
    13 West_German @ 12.314353
    14 Spanish_Extremadura @ 12.859179
    15 Southeast_English @ 13.583233
    16 Spanish_Andalucia @ 13.830257
    17 Southwest_English @ 13.978702
    18 Orcadian @ 16.401056
    19 West_Scottish @ 17.351288
    20 Irish @ 17.548702

    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% Southeast_English +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.504333


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southeast_English +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.394807

    K15 results :

    Using 1 population approximation:

    1 Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.222782
    2 Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.754295
    3 Southwest_French @ 8.809189
    4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 9.705191
    5 Spanish_Aragon @ 9.732079
    6 Spanish_Valencia @ 9.768083
    7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9.977365
    8 Spanish_Murcia @ 10.052011
    9 Spanish_Extremadura @ 11.016766
    10 Portuguese @ 11.086204
    11 French @ 11.706053
    12 Spanish_Galicia @ 12.155327
    13 Spanish_Andalucia @ 12.570360
    14 South_Dutch @ 14.094760
    15 French_Basque @ 16.219206
    16 Southwest_English @ 16.610016
    17 Southeast_English @ 17.526518
    18 North_Italian @ 17.838005
    19 West_German @ 19.164370
    20 Irish @ 19.603342

    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% French_Basque +50% West_German @ 5.626909


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_Basque +25% North_Swedish +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.595724


    Dodecad results :


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French_Dodecad @ 3.615388
    2 French_HGDP @ 4.164582
    3 Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 5.271357
    4 Valencia_1000Genomes @ 6.813193
    5 Cantabria_1000Genomes @ 7.066911
    6 Spaniards_Behar @ 7.535643
    7 Aragon_1000Genomes @ 8.546679
    8 Spanish_Dodecad @ 8.993825
    9 Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes @ 9.124567
    10 Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 9.450707
    11 French_Basque_HGDP @ 10.017481
    12 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 10.055526
    13 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes @ 10.196680
    14 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 10.419403
    15 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 10.428566
    16 Hungarians_Behar @ 10.745912
    17 Andalucia_1000Genomes @ 11.095321
    18 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 11.383650
    19 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 12.128812
    20 Cornwall_1000Genomes @ 12.226398


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cataluna_1000Genomes +50% French_Dodecad @ 1.241511


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Aragon_1000Genomes +25% French_HGDP +25% German_Dodecad @ 0.000000


    Jtest results :

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 FR @ 8.551307
    2 ES @ 9.337730
    3 PT @ 11.278169
    4 Cornish @ 14.147501
    5 NL @ 16.436871
    6 French_Basque @ 16.479919
    7 West_&_Central_German @ 16.732765
    8 English @ 16.906311
    9 North_Italian @ 17.114149
    10 AT @ 17.166739
    11 IE @ 17.167549
    12 Orcadian @ 17.356880
    13 Scottish @ 18.001471
    14 DK @ 19.480299
    15 NO @ 21.676060
    16 HU @ 21.677467
    17 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 22.569292
    18 Serbian @ 22.632898
    19 Tuscan @ 23.251139
    20 RO @ 23.527225

    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% AT +50% French_Basque @ 5.793832


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_Basque +25% North_Russian +25% PT @ 4.560638


    Thank you very much


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    If she is 1/4 Polish the rest 3/4 must be Spanish (or South-Western French but it is less possible).

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    Quote Originally Posted by xri34 View Post
    If she is 1/4 Polish the rest 3/4 must be Spanish (or South-Western French but it is less possible).
    It's still very much possible, if the results I've seen for several French people are anything to go by. Quite a few of them have Spanish as their secondary or even first population (on Gedmatch), including French people who have no recent ancestry in SW France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TardisBlue View Post
    It's still very much possible, if the results I've seen for several French people are anything to go by. Quite a few of them have Spanish as their secondary or even first population (on Gedmatch), including French people who have no recent ancestry in SW France.
    Look her mixed oracle at dodecad k12b
    78.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 21.2% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 0.91
    2 69.4% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) + 30.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 0.93
    3 72.8% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) + 27.2% Belorussian (Behar) @ 0.98
    4 75.1% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) + 24.9% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 0.98
    5 77.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 22.1% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.02
    6 72.5% Spanish (Dodecad) + 27.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.08
    7 75.6% Spanish (Dodecad) + 24.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.24
    8 70.7% Aragon (1000Genomes) + 29.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.25
    9 77.8% Spanish (Dodecad) + 22.2% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.29
    10 78.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 21.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.32
    11 66.8% Baleares (1000Genomes) + 33.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.34
    12 76.2% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) + 23.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.34
    13 75.8% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 24.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.35
    14 72.1% Aragon (1000Genomes) + 27.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.37
    15 73.4% Cantabria (1000Genomes) + 26.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.41
    16 72.7% Spaniards (Behar) + 27.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.46
    17 77.5% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 22.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.47
    18 80.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 19.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.49
    19 68.7% Aragon (1000Genomes) + 31.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.5
    20 78.8% Spanish (Dodecad) + 21.2% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.5

    and 4 population oracle

    Aragon_1000Genomes + Belorussian_Behar + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Spanish_Dodecad @ 0.622308
    2 Belorussian_Behar + Cantabria_1000Genomes + Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes + Spanish_Dodecad @ 0.629867
    3 Aragon_1000Genomes + Aragon_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes @ 0.649770
    4 Aragon_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Valencia_1000Genomes @ 0.651283
    5 Belorussian_Behar + Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Spanish_Dodecad @ 0.659874
    6 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Polish_Dodecad @ 0.665066
    7 Cataluna_1000Genomes + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Polish_Dodecad + Spanish_Dodecad @ 0.726987

    The distances are too small and if she is really 1/4 Polish then the rest is Iberian.

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