Thank you, Krum!
Forum | Europe Travel Guide | Ecology | Facts & Trivia | Genetics | History | Linguistics |
Austria | France | Germany | Ireland | Italy | Portugal | Spain | Switzerland |
![]() |
Thank you, Krum!
Krum,
"Moyat Y-DNA me prosledyava imeto "Hait", koeto e vŭzmozhno armenski proizkhod"
Fascinating!.....and you are haplogroup "E".
I will have to do some research and find out if haplogroups "E" and "T" may have migrated together at some point.
Krum,
Alemanni. The Alemanni (also Alamanni; Suebi "Swabians") were a confederation of Germanic tribes on the Upper Rhine River.
In 496, the Alemanni were conquered by Frankish leader Clovis and incorporated into his dominions.
Haito of Reichenau….was born in 763, of a noble family of Swabia.
The Thracians, Dacians & Illyrians
According to ancient sources, the Thracians were a fusion of Proto-Indo-European Steppe people with the Neolithic inhabitants of the Carpathians (Cucuteni-Trypillian culture). As such they probably belonged to R1a (about 30%), R1b (10%), I2a1b (25-30%), E-V13 (10-15%), G2a, J1, J2a, J2b, and T1a. The Dacians were closely related to the Thracians and would have carried a similar mixture of haplogroups.
Ancient Greeks
The Pelasgians (pre-Minoan Greeks, or Helladic Greeks) belonged to an admixture of I2, E1b1b, T and G2a. E-V13 and T probably arrived in Greece from the Levant (and ultimately from Egypt, hence the small percentage of T) in the early Neolithic, 8,500 years ago.
Hello,
Yes, it is possible because these are many groups. The link I sent you is about one possible origin of the surname HAYDT / HAYT from the word "hajduk". The etymology of the word "hajduk" is unclear. One theory is that the Hajduk was derived from the Turkish word haidut or haydut, which was originally used by the Ottomans to refer to Hungarian and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth infantry soldiers. Another theory suggests that the word comes from the Hungarian hajtó or "hajdó" (plural hajtók or "hajdók"), meaning a (cattle) drover. Indeed, these two theories do not necessarily contradict each other, as the Balkan word is said to be derived from the Turkish word haiduk or hayduk (bandit).
Other spellings in English include hayduck, haydut, haiduk, haiduc, hayduck, hayduk. The time period when it appears can also guide you
Imo, the only T1a branch found in the levant was mostly T1a1, with pages00011 heading to egypt with R-v88
The only T1a2 i recall in the BC levant was the history of the Lemba, who began in an area north of lebanon and migrated to south africa, once there they accepted wifes, unsure if they are from the jewish faith
More likely for Your T1a2 is either from Chios, Ancient Lycien or northern asia minor.....or what the ancients writers called , the Asiatics
Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
Sons mtdna ... K1a4
Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
Grandmum paternal side ... I1-Y33791
Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282
Asia minor is anatolia, same place
Yes, iirc , bithniya was thracian, its eastern neighbour Pala was not, nor its neighbour western troad lands .....but i am unsure when its southern phrygians got there.....but we know these phrygians fought a serious of wars against the Lydians circa 500 bc......
Herodusus does claim the thracoans are the second biggest nation of people after the indians and their steppe border was with the cimmerians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattians
- Hatti (/ˈhæti/ )
- Hattians ( /ˈhætiənz/ ) - Germanic name of Haid, Hait or Heit ??
http://realhistoryww.com/world_histo...a_Turkey_2.htm
Last edited by BMW; 17-11-19 at 01:15.
YFull has their updated YTree.....YTree v7.09.01 at 25 November 2019
They have CTS8862 as one of my terminal SNPs...along with CTS8489, CTS10538, CTS9984, Y26649, Z19944, Z19951 and Z19953.
Last edited by BMW; 26-11-19 at 04:42.
....on FTDNA:
NEGATIVE - CTS8862
PRESUMED NEGATIVE - Z19944, Z19945, CTS9984
POSITIVE - CTS8489, CTS10538, Y26649, Z19951, Z19953
Two distinct different set of results when it comes to the matter of CTS8862 .
Any thoughts?
Last edited by BMW; 27-11-19 at 22:56.
you are the irish I presume in the attachment below
yf67318 is a bernot, i think a brother of the person I speak to , a belgium from walloon area
yf67091 ........Brooks is from Hanover Germany and I need to speak to him again, we are 1 step apart in ftdna but together in yfull
reddick knox is the Hessian we spoke about earlier
ers256892 is an italian from Trentino lands ......IIRC fonzaso area, he also has snp z19945 found in yfull
no idea on sample from spain or puerto rico
Yes, that is my 2nd great grandfather Patrick Walsh.
torzio,
Can you read that alright? I was going to delete it and try again.
i can read it now.....I am back home ...............I spent a week in central-australia ( Ularu ) only had mobile coverage...........
i get 4 stars via snp checker for cts8862 and noted positive
CTS8489 , I get 4 stars , noted ? ........but 1 positive reading and no negative reading, so they assume positive
Z19945, I get 3 stars, noted positive and 3 positive readings
YFull SNP check for CTS8862
![]()