Moron. I’m Albanian and R1a. Despite being part of an Albanian founder effect, what exactly do I have to gain from this so called “albanianist imagination”?
Listen Albanian ..Abraham,Slavs came from Ukraine as tribes not isolates, pushed by population movements.
So their profile must be the same as the profile of people of central west Ukraine. The problem with your little theory, Slavic DnA in its the purest form, which necessarily must be in Ukraine, not only cause it was the cradle of Slavs, but the outflow of people was always out of the region not into it , doesnt have much I2 , Din or otherwise. Central and western Slavs have even less. Even Serbs and Bulgarians that should have been heavily mixed with the locals(and are) have higher I2 linages than Ukrainians. How in the world that would have been even mathematical possible? It defies logic .
Go ahead, Show me any model, try your best, that I2+R1a starts in any analogy from Ukraine(25%i2 50%R1a there), and with in 200-300 years it reaches Bosnian Croats at 70% I2 and 10% R1a.
Go ahead..
I’m not going to sift through the numerous studies that mention this. You’re not a baby. It doesn’t become less of a fact because you don’t like the reality. Your claims of I2/R1a literally came out of your a s s. Here you go, not perfect but illustrates my point.
You arent going to back up your claims with anything resembling evidence, yet alone studies, but you will refer me to pictures.
Ok buddy.
The total Slavic Ydna in Greece is between 15-35 percent nationally. There is literally no updated science that classified them as anything but Balto-Slavic. Accept the reality.
That's not reality , that's your opinion which you only base on hot Albanian air. Maybe an Albanian Reality.
FACT=I2 is native to the Balkans!
FACT=I2 traveled to the 4 corners of Europe!
FACT=I2 Din is local to the Balkans , especially high in the areas of historical Illyria.
FACT=Balkanic interior people were hunter gatherers.
FACT=Greece has the most ancient homo and hominid archaeological evidence of hunter gatherers in Europe(at least).
FACT=Archaeological evidence show continuous habitation of Balkans interior, from Croatia and western Romania, to Bosnia and western Bulgaria to the Greek shores, from 15000 to 5000Bc from a Mesolithic civilization.
All the above are evidence based FACTS!
Let's see what it must be true in order your Albanian theory to be correct.
a) Hunter gatherers in Greece went extinct so they didn't inherited (via mixing) genetic lineages to the arriving pre-greeks(etegreeks) which were of Ev13 and J2 lineages(otherwise they would be recorded in modern Greeks too along with the Ev13 and J2)
b) Hunter gathers from the Balkan interior(on the premise that I2 is native to the Balkans and they were carriers of that linage) for 30 000 years never crossed Greece borders,although the climate during the last ice and at the end of the ice age all the way to prehistory(30 000 Bc to 10 000 Bc), would have been ideal in Greece, and in spite Greece been 200 Km away. They did find their way, though, amidst the last ice age, to Ukraine where the Climate was life prohibiting Tundra(that's a fact too, the timeline a ? though).
c)Then in Ukraine they remained there in for 10 to 20 000 years, until the Slavic migrations started, and they reintroduced the I2 in central and easter Europe , and the Balkans.
d)all other clades of I2 in the Balkans, meanwhile went an extinction event and disappeared , so now The I2 dinaric is the only one found in the Balkans(more or less), although that must have happened more than 7000 years ago, as in Yugoslavs in the region there are sizable numbers of J2 and E-v13 linages, who didnt arrive in the Balkans before 7000Bc, that inherited their lineages to the the Yougoslavs, but among them not a linage of I2 (as it isnt found in modern yougoslavs/other than i2din). The Balkanic Mesolithic civilization therefor that lasted from 15000 to 5000 bc, cant be a creation of people of J2 or E-v13 lineages, cause they weren't there, and cant be a product of I2 lineage people cause they went extinct in the middle of the era.
Maybe it was Martians.
e) Finally I2 Din is reintroduced in the Balkans with the arriving Slavs, and into Greece too.
All these must necessarily be true according to your hypothesis.
Do you have any idea how nonsensical all that sound?
OR..
We can go with common scene, Logic of
Ockham's razor . I2 Din was already in the Balkans and spread around geographically( as other I2 clades have done earlierall over Europe(literally) in much harsher conditions) over 10 000 years, long before there was anyone resembling indoeruopean in Europe, and via mixing it was inherited to the (eventually) Indoeuropean nationalities(as j2 and E-v13 did) Balkanic nations came from the mixing of preexisting populations and the arriving indoEuropean elite,which was the minority. Same occurred with the Yugoslavs and it is reflected in their genetics. Why so high concentrations of I2 in Bosnia then, higher than near by Serbia and croatia? Cause Bosnia is one long inhospitable mountain range, at the peak of the Dinaric alps, that dint appeal to agriculturalist and other trade based civilizations. Geography kept them relatively insulated until the modern era.