Really Surprising Eurogenes K13 Admixture Results

[cyeeyc]

Hello!

I am currently trying to figure out my heritage, as I am an adoptee and don't really know anything concerning where my biological family comes from. Using the Eurogenes Admixture calculator on GEDMatch makes matters even more confusing for me, and I am currently not sure what to make of these results! It's displaying Asian populations and has me wondering if I am actually of part-Asian descent or if I should simply be using a different admixture calculator. After all, the distance is above 4. Please let me know what you think. :)

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Austroasiatic_Ho	@	4.04
2		94.1%	Southwest_English	+	5.9%	Bangladeshi	@	4.14
3		94.8%	Southwest_English	+	5.2%	Chenchu	@	4.16
4		94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Dusadh	@	4.22
5		94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Velamas	@	4.23
6		94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Kurumba	@	4.23
7		95.2%	Southwest_English	+	4.8%	Sakilli	@	4.25
8		95.1%	Southwest_English	+	4.9%	Piramalai	@	4.26
9		94.8%	Southwest_English	+	5.2%	Uttar_Pradesh	@	4.28
10		94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Kol	@	4.3
11		94.7%	Southwest_English	+	5.3%	Dharkar	@	4.32
12		95.2%	Southwest_English	+	4.8%	Chamar	@	4.32
13		76.4%	West_Scottish	+	23.6%	Spanish_Extremadura	@	4.33
14		94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Kanjar	@	4.37
15		94.2%	Southwest_English	+	5.8%	Sindhi	@	4.37
16		95.1%	Southwest_English	+	4.9%	North_Kannadi	@	4.38
17		94.4%	Southwest_English	+	5.6%	Kshatriya	@	4.38
18		74.6%	West_Scottish	+	25.4%	Spanish_Galicia	@	4.39
19		94.5%	Southwest_English	+	5.5%	Gujarati	@	4.4
20		94.1%	Southwest_English	+	5.9%	Brahmin_UP	@	4.4

For comparison, here's the results of another calculator (Dodecad K12b):

1		86.9%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	13.1%	Syrians (Behar)	@	2.43
2		87.5%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	12.5%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	2.44
3		87.2%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	12.8%	Syrians (Behar)	@	2.48
4		87.8%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	12.2%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	2.51
5		87.3%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	12.7%	Jordanians (Behar)	@	2.55
6		86.7%	Orkney (1000Genomes)	+	13.3%	Syrians (Behar)	@	2.55
7		87.2%	Orkney (1000Genomes)	+	12.8%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	2.56
8		87.5%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	12.5%	Jordanians (Behar)	@	2.6
9		87%	Orkney (1000Genomes)	+	13%	Jordanians (Behar)	@	2.65
10		88.6%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	11.4%	Bedouin (HGDP)	@	2.69
11		88.3%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	11.7%	Yemenese (Behar)	@	2.71
12		88.6%	Argyll (1000Genomes)	+	11.4%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	2.73
13		88.6%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	11.4%	Samaritians (Behar)	@	2.73
14		88.4%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	11.6%	Bedouin (HGDP)	@	2.74
15		86.9%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	13.1%	Lebanese (Behar)	@	2.74
16		89.5%	British (Dodecad)	+	10.5%	Yemenese (Behar)	@	2.79
17		87.2%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	12.8%	Lebanese (Behar)	@	2.79
18		89.3%	Argyll (1000Genomes)	+	10.7%	Bedouin (HGDP)	@	2.8
19		88.9%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	11.1%	Samaritians (Behar)	@	2.81
20		88.2%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	11.8%	Yemenese (Behar)	@	2.83

And here's MDLP K23b, since a lot of people have told me it's a good all-around admixture calculator:

1		86.2%	Orcadian ( )	+	13.8%	Kabardin ( )	@	2.2
2		85.6%	Orcadian ( )	+	14.4%	Kumyk ( )	@	2.23
3		84%	Orcadian ( )	+	16%	Uzbek_Tashkent ( )	@	2.24
4		86.3%	Orcadian ( )	+	13.7%	Chechen ( )	@	2.29
5		84.6%	Orcadian ( )	+	15.4%	Baku_WGA ( )	@	2.3
6		88.4%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	11.6%	Kabardin ( )	@	2.31
7		90.1%	Icelandic ( )	+	9.9%	Armenian ( )	@	2.32
8		83.5%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	16.5%	Turk_Aydin ( )	@	2.33
9		87.9%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	12.1%	Kumyk ( )	@	2.33
10		85.4%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	14.6%	Turk ( )	@	2.35
11		90.3%	Icelandic ( )	+	9.7%	Armenian_Yerevan ( )	@	2.36
12		84.4%	Orcadian ( )	+	15.6%	Uzbekistani_Jew ( )	@	2.36
13		86.7%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	13.3%	Georgian_Jew ( )	@	2.36
14		88.5%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	11.5%	Chechen ( )	@	2.37
15		91.5%	Icelandic ( )	+	8.5%	Kakheti ( )	@	2.37
16		87.8%	Norwegian_West ( )	+	12.2%	Kurd ( )	@	2.38
17		88%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	12%	Jew_Tat ( )	@	2.39
18		83.1%	Orcadian ( )	+	16.9%	Azeri ( )	@	2.39
19		89.2%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	10.8%	Balkar ( )	@	2.39
20		82.8%	Orcadian ( )	+	17.2%	Turk ( )	@	2.39

I could be wrong, but I think that I can reasonably conclude that I am of Northern European and Asian descent, but I don't know which Asian, as all calculators return different Asian populations. Which one is most applicable to me? Thanks!

[td120]

IMHO you should have a closer look at your genetic matches first (not on Gedmatch). What company did you use for testing?
I would look for the ones without mixed heritage(usually most of non-American testees) and your common matches. Family names will be quite telling.
Look for "4th cousins-distant cousins" (10cM-->0.13-0.14% and around) first. Then move to closer or more distant ones(non-Americans) and check whether they fall in a specific geographical region.

here some charts with cM/relationship averages:
https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/wp...ugust_2017.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/thednageek.com/wp-...68%2C617&ssl=1

[Joey37]

It also could be Middle Eastern. My MDLP K23b for 88% NW European, 11.5% Sicilian, and 0.5% Native American is as follows:

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Belgian ( )	2.87
2	English ( )	2.97
3	Frisian ( )	3.42
4	Irish ( )	3.52
5	Dutch ( )	4.1
6	North_European ( )	4.61
7	South_German ( )	5.53
8	Norwegian_East ( )	5.57
9	English_Kent_GBR ( )	5.64
10	North_German ( )	5.84
11	Dane ( )	6.24
12	Swede ( )	6.38
13	German-Volga ( )	6.45
14	English_Cornwall_GBR ( )	6.46
15	CEU ( )	6.93
16	Welsh ( )	7.47
17	British ( )	7.64
18	Norwegian_West ( )	8.27
19	Icelandic ( )	9.31
20	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	9.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		78.3%	Dutch ( )	+	21.7%	Portugese ( )	@	1.04
2		96.3%	Frisian ( )	+	3.7%	Mozabite ( )	@	1.23
3		93.1%	Frisian ( )	+	6.9%	Shaigi_Sudan ( )	@	1.29
4		95.2%	Frisian ( )	+	4.8%	Berber_WGA ( )	@	1.33
5		93.5%	Frisian ( )	+	6.5%	Algerian ( )	@	1.42
6		95.6%	Frisian ( )	+	4.4%	Saharawi ( )	@	1.45
7		84.3%	Dutch ( )	+	15.7%	Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( )	@	1.46
8		94.6%	Frisian ( )	+	5.4%	Morocco_South ( )	@	1.5
9		93.3%	Frisian ( )	+	6.7%	Tunisian ( )	@	1.54
10		84.6%	Dutch ( )	+	15.4%	Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( )	@	1.55
11		84.4%	Dutch ( )	+	15.6%	Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( )	@	1.56
12		94.4%	Frisian ( )	+	5.6%	Moroccan ( )	@	1.57
13		83.3%	Dutch ( )	+	16.7%	Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( )	@	1.6
14		82.5%	Dutch ( )	+	17.5%	Spaniard ( )	@	1.65
15		83.7%	Dutch ( )	+	16.3%	Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( )	@	1.65
16		85.7%	Dutch ( )	+	14.3%	Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( )	@	1.65
17		88.3%	North_European ( )	+	11.7%	Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( )	@	1.66
18		95.1%	North_European ( )	+	4.9%	Georgian_Laz ( )	@	1.68
19		84.1%	Dutch ( )	+	15.9%	Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( )	@	1.71
20		91.3%	English ( )	+	8.7%	Maltese ( )	@	1.71

(I chose the K23b because it gives me interesting matches like yours)

[New Englander]

No....it just means that you are slightly more southern than the average NWE.

Also, without the Geographic breakdown it is impossible to tell with just Population approximations.