This site https://phylogeographer.com/mygrations/ shows that 2-3 subclades of R-Z93 belonged to people of Urnfield culture. I thought that this culture had nothing to do with Indo-Iranians. Does it make any sense? Could anyone enlighten me?
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Check the subclade R-YP5153. It appears that it was part of Urnfield culture.I think it relates to Indo-European migrations (Centum branch), not Indo-Iranian, in 1900 BC Indo-Iranians gradually migrated from the east and centum-speaking people migrated to Europe.
This site https://phylogeographer.com/mygrations/ shows that 2-3 subclades of R-Z93 belonged to people of Urnfield culture. I thought that this culture had nothing to do with Indo-Iranians. Does it make any sense? Could anyone enlighten me?
It is for sure R-YP5153 with TMRCA 2700 ybp. I also think there is a subclade under Y-57 but I have to check it again.which subclades are they?
and what is their TMRCA?
Check the subclade R-YP5153. It appears that it was part of Urnfield culture.
So which populations does it come from? I think it has to do with Scytho-Cimmerian branch of Srubna culture.That is also a subclade of R-Z2124, the original land was in the Middle East.
It is for sure R-YP5153 with TMRCA 2700 ybp. I also think there is a subclade under Y-57 but I have to check it again.
That is also a subclade of R-Z2124, the original land was in the Middle East.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2124/
no, it is not
it is Sintashta culture and origin is Abashevo culture
This haplogroup is a downstream of R-Z2122 which has to do with ancient Indo-European tribes of Eastern Europe originated form Srubna culture. It is pinpointed mostly in Europe and to a lesser extent in Central Asia (except R-CTS6 which has Near Eastern branch). I think that the Scytho-Cimmerian branch is a good candidate for most downstreams of Z2122.Yes but in 4700 ybp (2700 BC), in 1900 BC it was in the east of Iran and from this land it went to Europe.
Yes it is YP4768 and a subclade of Y52 the YP1269 which appear to be part of Urnfield culture. The first of the eastern Urnfield and the second of the Central.
This haplogroup is a downstream of R-Z2122 which has to do with ancient Indo-European tribes of Eastern Europe originated form Srubna culture. It is pinpointed mostly in Europe and to a lesser extent in Central Asia (except R-CTS6 which has Near Eastern branch). I think that the Scytho-Cimmerian branch is a good candidate for most downstreams of Z2122.
So can we conclude that R-Z93 was not only existed among Indo-Iranians?In 700 BC this haplogroup existed not only in Ukraine but also England, Scotland and Spain: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP4768/ Scytho-Cimmerians didn't live there, I think it relates to Celtic people.
So can we conclude that R-Z93 was not only existed among Indo-Iranians?
So can we conclude that R-Z93 was not only existed among Indo-Iranians?
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