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rasna basically means breed/kin, or some animal that is of good stock, like a race winning horse
I guess that's what Rasna means in Slavic languages, right?
in south slavic at least
it derives from rasa, which means race, like race of people
for other slavic languages i would need to check, it its probably same root with different endings, like rassia, or rasny... etc
In Italian it's "razza", in English is "race", but how do you explain that it's present in place names in the Slavic world including in northern Slavic countries? Are we sure it's the same word?
because all Slavic languages started from same language, much like Latin languages today started from Latin, there are differences , but usually root is the same
Because it has clear meaning in old Slavic?Of course you're right, but where is the evidence that the many toponyms "rasna" in the Slavic world, both southern and northern Slavic, derive from the Slavic word "rasa"?
Name of Basque is very similar to Bashkir (Baskara), R1b has a high frequency among Bashkirs too.
I think you are wrong.
It is interesting to know that Andalusian historian Ibn Khaldun called Basque as Bashkir too. (Muqaddimah)
The Etruscan language is pre-Indo-European but shows two types of contacts with Indo-European languages. A very ancient one that dates back to the Bronze Age when Indo-European migrations arrived in Italy and in Etruria most likely from north-east, and a second one more recent due to contacts with Italic languages mainly.
Rasna sounds like the names of some ancient Iranian and Slavic people in the East of Europe, like Ruthenia and Roxolani/Rosomoni, there are many places with the names of Rasna/Rosna/Rasina in Croatia, Macedonia, Czechia, Romania, Serbia, Greece, ... it seems to be really possible that some Etruscan tribes lived in the east of Europe before the arrival of Iranian and Slavic tribes.
In Medieval Persian/Arabic sources, Bashkir is just the name of Basques, not Bashkirs of Russia, and the main source is Ibn Khaldun: http://www.vajehyab.com/dehkhoda/باشکیرPizza is similar to Pisa and yet there is no connection...
Can you quote Ibn Khaldun? Can you show where he explicitly says that the Basques are "Bashkir"?
Well, there are chance similarities possible but personally I have considered the similarity between Rasenna and Ruthenia.
Basically the 'Rus' toponyms in De Administrando Imperio seem more Hungarian like, than Germanic.
I will mention an example which is fairly straight forward. One of the Dnieper rapids is called 'in the language of the Rus' 'Leanti' because, he says, βράσμα νερού αποτελεί (βράσσω = shake violently, throw up, of the sea, νερό = water). Hungarian has a prefix le- (down) and a verb -ont (to pour), of unkown etymology afaiu.
There seems to have been a movement, though, rather late possibly around the 5th century AD of people with more East Asian admixture than Khanty and Mansi people and high in haplogroup N.
The Greek sources (Theophylact) point to a region close to or around Ufa (from Kara Itil/Atel) for the origins of Pannonian Avars (pseudo-Avars, Varchonitae).
Only a part of the lexicon of Hungarian is Ugric, though.
The conqueros seemed to have had mixed European origin (with Eastern elements) and were called by Greeks 'Turks' but the region of Pannonia had been affected by Goths early (before Avars), Great Moravia later etc
The source you provide seems to lose its meaning when translated into English and does not explicitly state that Bashkir = Basque. Basque people refer to themselves as "Euskaldunak", furthermore Basque and other forms of this term descend from the Latin word Vasco plural Vascones, a pre-Roman tribe living in the Pyrenees region. Be aware that in Latin "Vasco" would be pronounced "wasko" with /w/ eventually evolving into /b/ and /β̞/ in Spanish (and Gascon).
Do you have other sources that state that the Basques are also called Bashkir? I cannot seem to find reference to Ibn Khaldun calling the Basques as such.
'Rus' is of Old Norse origin. The word Ruthenia originated as a Latin designation of the region and people originally known to themselves as the Rus'. One of the earliest written sources mentioning the people called Rus' (as Rhos) dates to 839 in the Annales Bertiniani. This chronicle identifies them as a Germanic tribe called the Swedes.
Rus = Scandinavians = Swedes.
According to the most prominent theory, the name Rus', like the Finnish name for Sweden (Ruotsi), is derived from an Old Norse term for "the men who row" (rods-) as rowing was the main method of navigating the rivers of Eastern Europe, and that it could be linked to the Swedish coastal area of Roslagen (the rowing crews) or Roden, as it was known in earlier times. The name Rus' would then have the same origin as the Finnish, Estonian, Võro and Northern Sami names for Sweden: Ruotsi, Rootsi, Roodsi and Ruoŧŧa. It is remarkable enough that the local Finnic and Permic peoples in northern Russia proper use the same (Rus'-related) name both for Sweden and Russia (depending on the language): thus the Veps name for Swedenand Swedish is Ročinma / Ročin,while in the neighboring Komi language the etymologically corresponding term Ročmu / Roč means already Russiaand Russian instead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Rus',_Russia_and_Ruthenia
But Jordanes talks about Rosomoni (the Rus men in Ossetic) in the east of Europe about 550 AD.
'Rus' is of Old Norse origin. The word Ruthenia originated as a Latin designation of the region and people originally known to themselves as the Rus'. One of the earliest written sources mentioning the people called Rus' (as Rhos) dates to 839 in the Annales Bertiniani. This chronicle identifies them as a Germanic tribe called the Swedes.
Rus = Scandinavians = Swedes.
Jordanes is referring to the Roxolani a Sarmatian tribe, not the Rus' who would found Kievan Rus'.
We are talking the origin of Rus which could be neither Iranian nor Germanic but a very old name in the east of Europe from Etruscan or another non-IE language. In most of Persian/Arabic sources the Rus were a Turkic people who first found Rus Khaganate and many years later Kievan Rus.
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