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    I don't think so. No pre-Yamna R1b-Z2103 has been found anywhere.
    I guess it is Repin which appeared in the Don-Volga area quite late, some 5.95 ka.
    It is not Khvalynsk, of which we have DNA.

    Khvalynsk has a touch of Siberian DNA, which is absent in Yamna.
    Pré-Yamna Dnjepr DNA has some EEF, which is absent in Yamna too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpluskx View Post
    Anybody has info on Arslantepe paper by Max Planck Institute? It's gonna be very important.
    What was the Max Planck Institute looking into at Arslantepe? Do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyuiopman View Post
    What was the Max Planck Institute looking into at Arslantepe? Do you know?
    Here you can find it:
    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...onference-2018

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    Thank you so much!

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    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5-rvA6IqH...nt_samples.jpg

    As expected, Reich has lots of unpublished data from Anatolia. This is why i've been thinking there will be no steppe ancestry in Anatolia. I think if there was even a small sign of it, Reich would write different things in his book, Lazaridis would write different things on Twitter etc. Or maybe with the newest data they found something? Hopefully they publish the samples quickly and we find out the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    As always you know more than all the authors of these genetics papers and than David Anthony as well and in addition are more emphatic and arrogant about it.

    By all means write up a paper and see if a reputable journal will publish it. I'm all anticipation.
    And has poisoned any discussion of the topic here by continuously citing himself as an authority, while refusing to defend his methods when challenged.
    "I think Marija's 'kurgan hypothesis' has been magnificently vindicated by recent work." --Lord Colin Renfrew, 4/18/2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpluskx View Post
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5-rvA6IqH...nt_samples.jpg

    As expected, Reich has lots of unpublished data from Anatolia. This is why i've been thinking there will be no steppe ancestry in Anatolia. I think if there was even a small sign of it, Reich would write different things in his book, Lazaridis would write different things on Twitter etc. Or maybe with the newest data they found something? Hopefully they publish the samples quickly and we find out the answer.
    It probably goes along something like that, at least from the side of Reich. But that's the problem with Vulgarization of huge hypothesis like the I-E one. If you really think about it, taking all the matter on it. Anatolians and in particular their supposed and theorized Archaism, are not the answer of I-E hypothesis, neither is really the Steppe signal or any other admixture or the R1a-R1b relationship, or any archeological materials. It's the association of at least most of those, like " being in the [ supposed ] I-E spectrum ". And as i said, Anatolians are not that important for that matter because in that relationship, we only have the Linguistic part, wich itself is not fully known. We cannot based that entire hypothesis on " it's the most archaic IE language ".

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