inanna1111
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I hope this is the right subforum. If not maybe someone could move it for me.
I don't usually respond to my own posts but Mytrueancestry got me thinking about my other ancient ancestry results from Geno 2.0 as well as my ancestry from My Heritage and Ancestry DNA. I found this forum after I paid for the above . I wanted to find out how well it correlates with other ancestry results and what I know of my family. I don't know if the novelty of this has worn off now for some of you but I will put it here in case someone has some insights to offer.
On my mother's side, my family has lived in Karpenisi for generations. My grandfather comes from a village that my mother says only had about 100 residents when she was a child. Google now puts it somewhere between 100-200. Her mother is from the Village of Fourna which only has about 625 residents, from a recent google search. Probably less when my grandmother moved away to live with my grandfather. I doubt many of these people are doing dna tests which makes it hard to find any live matches to ask. On my mother's side the women in her maternal line all had blonde hair and blue eys which apparently has skipped me for some reason as I didn't get the blue eyes. I have heard some say this is impossible for Greeks but I assure them we are Greeks going back as far as word or mouth and lands passed down for generations goes. My DNA and my mother's confirms this as she got even higher % of Greek on her test than I did . Not sure if the eyes and hair are all that relevant but thought I would mention it.
What I know about my father is that his family has Greek, Arvanite and some more recent Albanian ancestry. One of his parents is Greek and the other has both Arvanite and recent Albanian ancestry. For some reason when I mention this to American Greeks this is controversial which I do not understand. My mother only acknowledged he is half Albanian after I took a DNA test. I grew up thinking both of them were Greek. I feel a bit cheated for not being told, at least when I was older. I understand my mother wanted me to fully embrace my Greek heritage but still... I felt bit of an alien my whole life, as if I knew something was off.
I was born in Lamia. I lived with my parents in Malesina as a small child. I moved with my mother to the USA a few years later.
Geno 2.0
Your Deep Ancestry
(1,000 Years - 100,000 Years Ago)
MATERNAL LINE
H49B
Your maternal haplogroup is shared by <0.1% of all participants in the project
"My Maternal Lineage Began About 150,000 Years Ago.
My maternal ancestors carried farming culture from the region of the Fertile Crescent into Europe. This revolutionized not only the way food was grown but introduced a shift from a nomadic lifestyle to a settled one. Changes to tools, pottery, and weapons may not otherwise have been possible. Thus, my cousins have played an important role in the history of the Fertile Crescent region and of Europe."
Your Regional Ancestry
(500 Years - 10,000 Years Ago)
I Am
52% Southern Europe
31% Asia Minor
15% Eastern Europe
2% Jewish Diaspora
Your First Reference Population: Greek
This reference population is based on native populations from Greece. The large Southern European and Asia Minor components reflect the strong influence of agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East, who arrived here more than 10,000 years ago. The smaller Eastern European component likely comes from the pre-agricultural population of Europe. Today, this component predominates in northern European populations, while the Mediterranean component is more common in southern Europe.
Your Second Reference Population: Iberian (Spain & Portugal)
This reference population is based on groups native to Iberia, the peninsula of Spain and Portugal. The large Southern Europe component reflects the strong influence of agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East who arrived here some 10,000 years ago. While the Western European and Great Britain and Ireland components likely come from mixture with neighboring groups with genetic links to the pre-agricultural population of Europe—the earlier settlers. The North African component reflects the historic migration of populations north across the Strait of Gibraltar into Iberia in the past 2,000 years.
NEANDERTHAL
*Out of a maximum of 5%
1.0%
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Ancestry DNA
Ethnicity Estimate
Greece & the Balkans 94%
Greece, Turkey & Albania
Eastern Europe & Russia 3%
Italy 3%
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My Heritage
Europe 98.9%
South Europe 83.7%
Greek and South Italian 80.3%
Iberian 3.4%
East Europe 13.9%
Balkan 13.9%
Ashkenazi Jewish 1.3%
West Africa 1.1%
Nigerian
1.1%
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DNA.Land
West Eurasian 100%
Balkan 78%
Includes: Albanian in Albania; Bulgarian in Bulgaria and Greek in (2 sites) Greece
Mediterranean Islander 22% (It has 22% ashkenazi/levantine when I click on the blue under this)
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I just wonder if all this aligns with Mytrueancestry results and whether I should pay for the highest level for more information. I have no way of finding out anything about my father's side of my family which is unfortunate. We have not heard from him since we moved to the USA. I have no brothers to get Y-DNA from which makes me feel like something in missing and will remain a mystery without the paternal line. I also cannot find anything meaningful related to my mtDNA other than it has been labeled rare by some sites. So that's kind of my story. I used my dna mostly to find out about my health traits before I got interested in ancestry.
Mytrueancestry also matched me with an Egyptian sample in deep dive which I suppose might be related to the bit of Nigerian shown above in My Heritage? I have not really seen African ancestry on anything else. Most of my friends do not show African on their's.
tl;dr
Should I pay for the highest level on the site to see if I can learn more of my father's side or is that unlikely? Could I narrow the paternal line possibilities down at least to figure out what random dna I got from each parent?
Edit:I just noticed that where MyHeritage once had me as just 80% Greek it now expanded it to include south Italy. My full blood sister has 22.8% Balkans, 4.4% Iberian, 6.2% West Asian (I got 1% Nigerian) and the rest is Greek and South Italy. She has dark hair and dark eyes unlike the females on my maternal side of the family. I know it is random what is passed down but still fascinating.
Your closest Ancient populations...
Seleucid Empire - Romans - Hellenic Romans
Seleucid + Roman (7.242)
Hellenic Roman + Roman (8.25)
Roman (11.19)
Hellenic Roman (12.57)
Seleucid (14.22)
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.19 (Click for more info)
Top 97% match vs all users
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.71 (Click for more info)
Top 97% match vs all users
3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.79 (Click for more info)
Top 97% match vs all users
4. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.57 (Click for more info)
Top 96% match vs all users
5. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 12.65 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users
6. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 14.22 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users
7. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 14.74 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users
8. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.03 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users
9. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 15.53 (Click for more info)
Top 95% match vs all users
10. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 15.81 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users
11. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.69 (Click for more info)
Top 97% match vs all users
12. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 17.07 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users
13. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 17.15 (Click for more info)
Top 94% match vs all users
14. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 17.23 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users
15. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 17.29 (Click for more info)
Top 94% match vs all users
16. Hellenic Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.86 (Click for more info)
Top 92% match vs all users
17. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 18.18 (Click for more info)
Top 94% match vs all users
18. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 19.11 (Click for more info)
Top 89% match vs all users
19. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 19.3 (Click for more info)
Top 86% match vs all users
20. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 19.48 (Click for more info)
Top 88% match vs all users
21. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 19.52 (Click for more info)
Top 87% match vs all users
22. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 19.53 (Click for more info)
Top 91% match vs all users
23. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 19.55 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users
24. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) ..... 20.04 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users
25. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.57 (Click for more info)
Top 57% match vs all users
26. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 20.91 (Click for more info)
Top 92% match vs all users
27. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 20.97 (Click for more info)
Top 86% match vs all users
28. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) ..... 21.0 (Click for more info)
Top 95% match vs all users
29. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 21.17 (Click for more info)
Top 80% match vs all users
30. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 21.17 (Click for more info)
Top 80% match vs all users
31. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.78 (Click for more info)
Top 87% match vs all users
32. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 21.99 (Click for more info)
Top 32% match vs all users
33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 22.31 (Click for more info)
Top 65% match vs all users
34. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 22.38 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users
35. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 22.72 (Click for more info)
Top 81% match vs all users
36. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 22.79 (Click for more info)
Top 85% match vs all users
37. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 22.98 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users
38. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 23.23 (Click for more info)
Top 93% match vs all users
39. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 23.26 (Click for more info)
Top 83% match vs all users
40. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 23.53 (Click for more info)
Top 83% match vs all users
Your closest genetic modern populations...
1. Greek (4.527)
2. Central_Greek (7.982)
3. Kosovan (8.080)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (8.354)
5. Greek_Thessaly (8.496)
6. Greek_Islands (9.640)
7. East_Sicilian (9.784)
8. Greek_Crete (10.30)
I don't usually respond to my own posts but Mytrueancestry got me thinking about my other ancient ancestry results from Geno 2.0 as well as my ancestry from My Heritage and Ancestry DNA. I found this forum after I paid for the above . I wanted to find out how well it correlates with other ancestry results and what I know of my family. I don't know if the novelty of this has worn off now for some of you but I will put it here in case someone has some insights to offer.
On my mother's side, my family has lived in Karpenisi for generations. My grandfather comes from a village that my mother says only had about 100 residents when she was a child. Google now puts it somewhere between 100-200. Her mother is from the Village of Fourna which only has about 625 residents, from a recent google search. Probably less when my grandmother moved away to live with my grandfather. I doubt many of these people are doing dna tests which makes it hard to find any live matches to ask. On my mother's side the women in her maternal line all had blonde hair and blue eys which apparently has skipped me for some reason as I didn't get the blue eyes. I have heard some say this is impossible for Greeks but I assure them we are Greeks going back as far as word or mouth and lands passed down for generations goes. My DNA and my mother's confirms this as she got even higher % of Greek on her test than I did . Not sure if the eyes and hair are all that relevant but thought I would mention it.
What I know about my father is that his family has Greek, Arvanite and some more recent Albanian ancestry. One of his parents is Greek and the other has both Arvanite and recent Albanian ancestry. For some reason when I mention this to American Greeks this is controversial which I do not understand. My mother only acknowledged he is half Albanian after I took a DNA test. I grew up thinking both of them were Greek. I feel a bit cheated for not being told, at least when I was older. I understand my mother wanted me to fully embrace my Greek heritage but still... I felt bit of an alien my whole life, as if I knew something was off.
I was born in Lamia. I lived with my parents in Malesina as a small child. I moved with my mother to the USA a few years later.
Geno 2.0
Your Deep Ancestry
(1,000 Years - 100,000 Years Ago)
MATERNAL LINE
H49B
Your maternal haplogroup is shared by <0.1% of all participants in the project
"My Maternal Lineage Began About 150,000 Years Ago.
My maternal ancestors carried farming culture from the region of the Fertile Crescent into Europe. This revolutionized not only the way food was grown but introduced a shift from a nomadic lifestyle to a settled one. Changes to tools, pottery, and weapons may not otherwise have been possible. Thus, my cousins have played an important role in the history of the Fertile Crescent region and of Europe."
Your Regional Ancestry
(500 Years - 10,000 Years Ago)
I Am
52% Southern Europe
31% Asia Minor
15% Eastern Europe
2% Jewish Diaspora
Your First Reference Population: Greek
This reference population is based on native populations from Greece. The large Southern European and Asia Minor components reflect the strong influence of agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East, who arrived here more than 10,000 years ago. The smaller Eastern European component likely comes from the pre-agricultural population of Europe. Today, this component predominates in northern European populations, while the Mediterranean component is more common in southern Europe.
Your Second Reference Population: Iberian (Spain & Portugal)
This reference population is based on groups native to Iberia, the peninsula of Spain and Portugal. The large Southern Europe component reflects the strong influence of agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East who arrived here some 10,000 years ago. While the Western European and Great Britain and Ireland components likely come from mixture with neighboring groups with genetic links to the pre-agricultural population of Europe—the earlier settlers. The North African component reflects the historic migration of populations north across the Strait of Gibraltar into Iberia in the past 2,000 years.
NEANDERTHAL
*Out of a maximum of 5%
1.0%
-----
Ancestry DNA
Ethnicity Estimate
Greece & the Balkans 94%
Greece, Turkey & Albania
Eastern Europe & Russia 3%
Italy 3%
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My Heritage
Europe 98.9%
South Europe 83.7%
Greek and South Italian 80.3%
Iberian 3.4%
East Europe 13.9%
Balkan 13.9%
Ashkenazi Jewish 1.3%
West Africa 1.1%
Nigerian
1.1%
---
DNA.Land
West Eurasian 100%
Balkan 78%
Includes: Albanian in Albania; Bulgarian in Bulgaria and Greek in (2 sites) Greece
Mediterranean Islander 22% (It has 22% ashkenazi/levantine when I click on the blue under this)
---
I just wonder if all this aligns with Mytrueancestry results and whether I should pay for the highest level for more information. I have no way of finding out anything about my father's side of my family which is unfortunate. We have not heard from him since we moved to the USA. I have no brothers to get Y-DNA from which makes me feel like something in missing and will remain a mystery without the paternal line. I also cannot find anything meaningful related to my mtDNA other than it has been labeled rare by some sites. So that's kind of my story. I used my dna mostly to find out about my health traits before I got interested in ancestry.
Mytrueancestry also matched me with an Egyptian sample in deep dive which I suppose might be related to the bit of Nigerian shown above in My Heritage? I have not really seen African ancestry on anything else. Most of my friends do not show African on their's.
tl;dr
Should I pay for the highest level on the site to see if I can learn more of my father's side or is that unlikely? Could I narrow the paternal line possibilities down at least to figure out what random dna I got from each parent?
Edit:I just noticed that where MyHeritage once had me as just 80% Greek it now expanded it to include south Italy. My full blood sister has 22.8% Balkans, 4.4% Iberian, 6.2% West Asian (I got 1% Nigerian) and the rest is Greek and South Italy. She has dark hair and dark eyes unlike the females on my maternal side of the family. I know it is random what is passed down but still fascinating.