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    British food is delicious!

    Dropping in for a minute, I’m on vacation currently in London, and I must say it is a really beautiful city. I loved it from the minute we got here. I particularly want to mention how much I adore British cuisine, specifically nose to tail. Yes, it fantastic! Last night I ate deviled kidneys, bone marrow on parsley salad, snails and barely, and lamb broth. Today I had scotch eggs, and various meat pies for lunch. I’m looking forward to dinner tonight.

    I absolutely love and appreciate British food!

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    If you enjoy this kind of cuisine, try the Steak and Kidney Pie.

    Beef Wellington for me :)

    ... SoHo, and Covent Garden for shopping.

    ... Kew Garden (exotic plants from everywhere) ...

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    Thus far I've seen St. Paul's Cathedral, which I was really into, because I am a fan of Lord Nelson, and Lord Wellington. The Parliament building, which was fascinating; our tour guide was very good. The British Museum, which had the Rosetta Stone, and really great Greek, Roman, and Etruscan pieces. They also had great Neolithic artifacts, as well as Bell Beaker remains. The Globe theater, and Buckingham Palace from the outside. We went around Piccadilly Circus, to different shops. Tomorrow, we are seeing more stuff too.

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    I spent about one year in London. I still have a National Insurance Number Card, and a huge driver’s license made of paper

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    Nice! I could see myself living here, if I could.

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    imho Competitive people won’t like working for too long in the UK.

    most people that love the London way and system of doing things (Social prog. help and stuff), will never make it in New York :)

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    Today we saw Westminster Abby, and the Tower of London. It was marvelous!

    Also, people should really control their children, I saw some toddler walking all over memorial of the unknown solider.

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    Cool, perfect timing for this revelation

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    In England they had Muffins, but NO English Muffins (at my time)

    and the Breakfast:

    Eggs, soft Bacon, huge thick slice of tomato beans strange black pudding, ...

    Fish & Chips with vinegar every Friday afternoon for me ...
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    I love London and I have generally had very positive experiences with British food all over Britain. France may be renowned for its fine cuisine, but in my experience quality in cheaper restaurants is often disappointing. To eat well in France one has to pay at least 30€ for a meal (without drinks), unless one eats bread or pastries (also excellent). That's not the case in Britain, where the quality tends to be more consistent. But Britain also has more nationwide food chains. As soon as a restaurant works well, the business-minded Brits expand it into a chain, which the French almost never do (the exception being the bakery chain Paul, now found in 30 countries around the world).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    I love London and I have generally had very positive experiences with British food all over Britain. France may be renowned for its fine cuisine, but in my experience quality in cheaper restaurants is often disappointing. To eat well in France one has to pay at least 30€ for a meal (without drinks), unless one eats bread or pastries (also excellent). That's not the case in Britain, where the quality tends to be more consistent. But Britain also has more nationwide food chains. As soon as a restaurant works well, the business-minded Brits expand it into a chain, which the French almost never do (the exception being the bakery chain Paul, now found in 30 countries around the world).
    My favorite restaurant that we ate at in London, was Lyle's. It is actually on the San Pellegrino top 10 restaurants of the world; every course was delicious. But the Blackfriars had excellent fish and chips, and meat pie.

    Paris is next on our list in the coming months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    My favorite restaurant that we ate at in London, was Lyle's. It is actually on the San Pellegrino top 10 restaurants of the world; every course was delicious. But the Blackfriars had excellent fish and chips, and meat pie.
    Good to know. I have bookmarked them for the next time I am in London.

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    I don't know anything about British cuisine. I think they eat eggs with bacon and make meat pies. For the rest in Spain it does not have very good press or there is not a very clear image of its gastronomy or its specialties, in general there is not much interest and for something it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    I don't know anything about British cuisine. I think they eat eggs with bacon and make meat pies. For the rest in Spain it does not have very good press or there is not a very clear image of its gastronomy or its specialties, in general there is not much interest and for something it should be.
    If you eat "foreign", as in Indian, Chinese, Italian, etc. I think it can be good, so long as you keep away from the chains. I tried Zizzi when I was last there. It's like Olive Garden if it was 50% worse.

    I mean, look at this monstrosity:
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    English food itself I don't like, nor do food critics rate it very highly. I can't stand pub food, for instance, as the pastry at the ones I've tried was stodgy and tough. Nor do I like kidneys. I'm not a fan of the vaunted "full English" breakfast, either. Black pudding??? Also, the worst baked beans I've ever eaten in my life. So long as you stick to bacon eggs and toast it's O.K.

    I rent out my condo to a lot of British people over the summer. How they can stand Florida in July and August I don't know, but I'm happy to have them. They're always thrilled by the food, they tell me, by which they mean places like Applebee's and Chico's etc!

    It's gotten better over the years, though. When I was in England for my honeymoon, I stuck it out a week and then started crying over dinner one night, so we went back to France to finish up our trip.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    It's gotten better over the years, though. When I was in England for my honeymoon, I stuck it out a week and then started crying over dinner one night, so we went back to France to finish up our trip.
    British cuisine has made tremendous progress in a few decades. It used to be disgusting and that's why the stereotype still clings, but nowadays there are terrific British restaurants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    If you eat "foreign", as in Indian, Chinese, Italian, etc. I think it can be good, so long as you keep away from the chains. I tried Zizzi when I was last there. It's like Olive Garden if it was 50% worse.
    I don't know Olive Garden but Zizzi is an abomination. I ate there once in London - we were really hungry after a 3 hour walk around the city and wanted Italian food. Unfortunately, the small authentic-like restaurant we were aiming for was full, so we settled for Zizzi. Big mistake… the pizza dough was undercooked, all floppy and soaked by the "tomato sauce" (which tasted almost like ketchup), and when you lifted the edge of it, all the topping would slide down.

    As for British food, I don't know much about it, but I love some of their desserts - crumbles, Eaton mess… and the Scottish shortbreads are to die for. I love cheesecakes too, but apparently it's Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TardisBlue View Post
    I don't know Olive Garden but Zizzi is an abomination. I ate there once in London - we were really hungry after a 3 hour walk around the city and wanted Italian food. Unfortunately, the small authentic-like restaurant we were aiming for was full, so we settled for Zizzi. Big mistake… the pizza dough was undercooked, all floppy and soaked by the "tomato sauce" (which tasted almost like ketchup), and when you lifted the edge of it, all the topping would slide down.

    As for British food, I don't know much about it, but I love some of their desserts - crumbles, Eaton mess… and the Scottish shortbreads are to die for. I love cheesecakes too, but apparently it's Greek.
    Olive Garden is terrible, but Zizzi is infinitely worse. Like I said, my British renters think our chains like Applebee's are great so that tells me all I need to know. :)

    Did you see that plate of pasta I posted? It looks like an abomination we have here called Chef Boyardee; it's canned pasta. Some poor children I knew actually liked it. It's soupy, the pasta is flaccid and soft, and the stuffing tastes the way I imagine dog food tastes. YUCK!



    Yes, I like British baked goods; I'm a devotee of the tv show "The Great British Bake Off". :) The best desserts are still, however, imo, the French and German ones. The Italians are rubbish at desserts in comparison so far as I'm concerned. The parents of one of my close friends came from Bavaria after the war, and her mother and grandmother taught her how to bake. Wonderful, wonderful recipes, and great technique. I learned a lot from her, but I'm not a baker. It's very, very, precise, and you need lots and lots of practice, as you do for making your own pasta, and I don't like desserts enough to put in all that time. I save the calories for pasta. :)

    Love cheesecake too. New York cheesecake is famous and very good, but I still have a place in my heart for Sicilian cheesecake made with ricotta, which I infinitely prefer to American cream cheese. The Sicilians and the Neapolitans are the only Italians with a feel for sweets.



    My favorite sweet comes from Napoli: sfogliatelle



    The only sweet dessert that I really love from my own area is sweet rice torta.

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    I know London very well. It is a beautiful city. I am not going to talk much because Jovialis is there now and is describing places I've been through that are, in fact, very interesting. It's delightful to see someone else's impression visiting a place you've been to. I agree with everything Jovialis has said so far except for the food. I stayed hosted near Euston Square Station and the best place I ate was at a family Italian restaurant, not so far from the hotel. I discovered a snack bar that served Brazilian food and even had drinks made in Brazil. Talking to the owners, I realized from the accent that they were Portuguese. I asked where they were from and they said they were from the Azores. But the food was good and really Brazilian. Liked it. But most of the time when I was hungry, I solved my problem at Pizza Hut or McDonalds. At night it was always a problem. Everything closes from 10:00 PM. Only a few pubs are open. In Brazil, at 10:00 PM the nightlife is just beginning, at least in Belo Horizonte, Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. Maybe now that Jovialis is there, I can have better references of restaurants and dishes and can, on another occasion, better enjoy the local cuisine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Olive Garden is terrible, but Zizzi is infinitely worse. Like I said, my British renters think our chains like Applebee's are great so that tells me all I need to know. :)

    Did you see that plate of pasta I posted? It looks like an abomination we have here called Chef Boyardee; it's canned pasta. Some poor children I knew actually liked it. It's soupy, the pasta is flaccid and soft, and the stuffing tastes the way I imagine dog food tastes. YUCK!
    My daughter had pasta at Zizzi, and it looked like the pic you posted. Yes, yuck!

    Yes, I like British baked goods; I'm a devotee of the tv show "The Great British Bake Off". :) The best desserts are still, however, imo, the French and German ones. The Italians are rubbish at desserts in comparison so far as I'm concerned.
    Are they? I wanted to taste Cannoli, but I've never had a chance to try them out. They don't seem to have that in France (I don't live in a big city). I admit I have a sweet tooth, though I know it's not good for health and I'm trying to avoid sugar, except when I go to a restaurant (which seldom happens). I had a Neapolitan cake in London, it was good but not exceptional. Oh, and I forget: tiramisu is delicious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Yes, I like British baked goods; I'm a devotee of the tv show "The Great British Bake Off". :) The best desserts are still, however, imo, the French and German ones. The Italians are rubbish at desserts in comparison so far as I'm concerned.
    Really? I quite like Italian desserts, especially panna cotta, tiramisu, tartufo and zabaione (pictured below). Gelato could also be considered a dessert.



    For my part I think that variety is the key to enjoyment, but I am relatively selective for desserts in each country.

    Among British desserts I like cheesecakes, carrot cakes and crumbles, but I am not a fan of fudge, shortcake or trifle.

    In Belgian/French desserts, nothing beats a good homemade mousse au chocolat with Belgian chocolate, but I also love a good charlotte aux framboises (pictured below), crème brûlée, fondant au chocolat, profiteroles or mille-feuilles.



    Regarding German desserts, I'd go for the baumkuchen, Black Forest, and my favourite of all Rote Grütze, a speciality of North Germany and Denmark, which I discovered in Berlin.

    Here is the Rote Grütze with vanilla sauce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    If you eat "foreign", as in Indian, Chinese, Italian, etc. I think it can be good, so long as you keep away from the chains. I tried Zizzi when I was last there. It's like Olive Garden if it was 50% worse.

    I mean, look at this monstrosity:
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    English food itself I don't like, nor do food critics rate it very highly. I can't stand pub food, for instance, as the pastry at the ones I've tried was stodgy and tough. Nor do I like kidneys. I'm not a fan of the vaunted "full English" breakfast, either. Black pudding??? Also, the worst baked beans I've ever eaten in my life. So long as you stick to bacon eggs and toast it's O.K.

    I rent out my condo to a lot of British people over the summer. How they can stand Florida in July and August I don't know, but I'm happy to have them. They're always thrilled by the food, they tell me, by which they mean places like Applebee's and Chico's etc!

    It's gotten better over the years, though. When I was in England for my honeymoon, I stuck it out a week and then started crying over dinner one night, so we went back to France to finish up our trip.
    What's the ooze covering the pasta supposed to be? I never had pasta that looks like that
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    it’s also perception.

    The extensive use of offals in their cuisine are repugnant to many.

    They look at the Menu, they grossed out, and they won’t try those dishes, but it's possible that if they didn t know the ingredients, they would have liked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    it’s also perception.

    The extensive use of offals in their cuisine are reprehensible to many.

    They look at the Menu, they grossed out, and they won’t try those dishes, but it's possible that if they didn t know the ingredients, they would have liked it.






    Extensive use of offal
    It's possible. I don't usually like any of it: kidney, liver, intestines, you name it, so I feel their pain.:) The problem for me is that the pastry it's encased in is usually tough and hard as a rock, and the vegetables are water logged and soggy. I mean, who would invent mashed peas??? They're one of my least favorite vegetables to start with, and they're not improved by mashing and underseasoning.

    The French feature a lot of offal too, and you can find it in Italian restaurants too, but there's also other great food on the menu.

    As I said, the food scene has improved a lot in London, if not in the provinces, but "English" food itself is just not my cup of tea. :)

    I will definitely try the restaurant Jovialis recommended next time I'm there, though.

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    Its not only the chefs who made the food taste good, its also the ingridients! Let say following the same procedures to make cheese, Italian cheese is a lot better than american cheese! American Italians brought cows from Sicily to improve the cheese made in USA, result was it was not the cow, but the food cow is eating. American made cheese was not as good as Italian one. My point is how good the ingredients produced in England are, to make the food good. I never been in England but in Usa there are great regional differences related to food!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tutkun Arnaut View Post
    Its not only the chefs who made the food taste good, its also the ingridients! Let say following the same procedures to make cheese, Italian cheese is a lot better than american cheese! American Italians brought cows from Sicily to improve the cheese made in USA, result was it was not the cow, but the food cow is eating. American made cheese was not as good as Italian one. My point is how good the ingredients produced in England are, to make the food good. I never been in England but in Usa there are great regional differences related to food!
    They say New York/New Jersey pizza is the best in the United States (not in the world), mainly because of the water here.

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