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    There's no way they "Match" those other samples.

    They may be "related" to them or the result of admixtures among groups somewhat like that, but that's it.

    Either you've misunderstood, or he's even more delusional than usual.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aci View Post
    I noticed that the haplogroup J appears suddenly after 700 BCE and at a very large proportion of 46,3% between 700 BCE - 700 CE. How is that possible?
    700bce-700ce %
    I2a 2 4,9
    I1 1 2,4
    G2a2b 7 17,1
    R1b 5 12,2
    R1a 1 2,4
    R2a 1 2,4
    J 1 2,4
    J1 6 14,6 46,3
    J2a 9 22,0
    J2b 3 7,3
    E1b1b 2 4,9
    T1a 2 4,9
    H2 1 2,4
    TOTAL 41 100,0

    In Imperial Rome is 56% !
    This below is the imperial numbers......where did you get the repulican numbers ?

    Imperial Rome based on 24 samples from Antonio et al:


    29.1 % J2a-M410 7
    20.8 % G2a2 5
    16.6 % J1a 4
    8.3 % R1b 2
    4.1 % J2b-M241 1
    4.1 % J2b-M205 1
    4.1 % T1a 1
    4.1 % R1a 1
    4.1 % R2a 1
    4.1 % E1b-v12 1
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
    Wife paternal line R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johane Derite View Post
    I didn't want to comment anymore but was adressed directly.

    Yes, CTS6190 has been found in a turkish guy who says he has Albanian origins. We also have clades other than z638, which has tmrca of 4200 ybp, so its not some young founder effect.
    Is the Albanian-origin Turkish guy under CTS6190 visible in any projects or on any trees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brick View Post
    On Yfull, under CTS6190 there are four Portuguese, one Italian, one Dutch, one British, one Russian. There's not a single Albanian.
    The two "Portuguese" under Y36166 are both Anglo-Virginians, one of whom has fabricated a Sephardic origin story. The Portuguese flag under Y22038 is an Italian Sephardic Jew who claims ultimate roots in Portugal. And then everyone under Y33795 is Ashkenazi, to the best of my knowledge. FYI.

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