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    Salento: Just as you and Torzio did, I looked at my Chroma results from MyTrueAncestry and I am getting very, very, similar results. There is an option you can use that gives the closest modern populations to the ancient Samples used in the Antonio/Moots et al (2019) study. I, like, you came to the same conclusion, genetic continuity from Iron Age down to today. Some Romans cluster closer to Central/North Central Italy, Some Cluster South/South Central Italy.

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    For example, the first red color on Chromosome 1 is 591 SNPS related to Thracian I5769, R58, R1545, R59 and R131 and Central Roman CL36 Second Red color bar is 442 SNPs shares wiht R44, R49 and R969, R970, R52 and R41, respectively. The orange bar on Chromosome 1 is 128 SNPS with Ancient Greek I9005. With My True Ancestry, all of my chromosome Sharing for periods BC are Ancient Thracian and Ancient Greeks. For Chromosome 8, 105 SNPs with I0073, Chromosome 10, 115 SNPs with I9005 (first light orange segment) and 101 with I0070, Chromosome 13, 110 SNPs with Mycenaean I9006 and Chromosome 21, 102 with I0074.

    I have Caesar Level (can analyze up to 60 ancient samples) but this chroma tool very nice, I may have to upgrade to get more ancient samples analyzed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Salento: Just as you and Torzio did, I looked at my Chroma results from MyTrueAncestry and I am getting very, very, similar results. There is an option you can use that gives the closest modern populations to the ancient Samples used in the Antonio/Moots et al (2019) study. I, like, you came to the same conclusion, genetic continuity from Iron Age down to today. Some Romans cluster closer to Central/North Central Italy, Some Cluster South/South Central Italy.

    Chroma1.JPG




    For example, the first red color on Chromosome 1 is 591 SNPS related to Thracian I5769, R58, R1545, R59 and R131 and Central Roman CL36 Second Red color bar is 442 SNPs shares wiht R44, R49 and R969, R970, R52 and R41, respectively. The orange bar on Chromosome 1 is 128 SNPS with Ancient Greek I9005. With My True Ancestry, all of my chromosome Sharing for periods BC are Ancient Thracian and Ancient Greeks. For Chromosome 8, 105 SNPs with I0073, Chromosome 10, 115 SNPs with I9005 (first light orange segment) and 101 with I0070, Chromosome 13, 110 SNPs with Mycenaean I9006 and Chromosome 21, 102 with I0074.

    I have Caesar Level (can analyze up to 60 ancient samples) but this chroma tool very nice, I may have to upgrade to get more ancient samples analyzed.
    ... more of mine:

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    Salento: That Chromosome of yours with 2127 shared SNPs has a great historical continuity through time. A place where Ancient Greece and Rome meet!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Salento: That Chromosome of yours with 2127 shared SNPs has a great historical continuity through time. A place where Ancient Greece and Rome meet!!!
    imho, It’s also possible that most of it, is a much older common shared ancestry,

    ... ‘cause they share the same segment.
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    Just letting you all know that apparently we're getting two papers, one with Iron Age Sicily samples and other with more Roman Era Italian samples like Samnites according to:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post648728

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post648734

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyan View Post
    Just letting you all know that apparently we're getting two papers, one with Iron Age Sicily samples and other with more Roman Era Italian samples like Samnites according to:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post648728

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post648734
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Cretan Greeks vs 647 ancient samples; top 100:

    Very close to a lot of Roman samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    Very close to a lot of Roman samples.
    Here are the Imperial Roman samples that are similar to Greek Cretans, under a genetic distance of 5.0:



    R850 is one of them, so similar kind of people have been there since the Iron Age.

    They could be natives since that time, perhaps, rather than immigrants.

    What is clear however, is that people "south" of them disappear by the middle ages.

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