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romans were very mixed so Southern Europe is very mixed
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romans were very mixed so Southern Europe is very mixed
romans were very mixed so Southern Europe is very mixed
romans were very mixed so Southern Europe is very mixed
war-burzum
lol being German/Hungarian ancestry
lol being German/Hungarian ancestry
Is this the Italian Nordicist perspective?
I haven't looked at each of those samples individually yet, but the majority of the Iron Age/Republican Rome Era samples are at least one third Indo-European, which makes them Southern European.
That's not good enough for you?
What did you expect? Scandinavians? Germans?
Honestly, what planet do some of you internet pop gen people come from? You're not playing with a full deck.
And one more pejorative about people from the Near East and you're history.
The culture to which all of Europe owes so much derives from the Near East via Greece. It sure as hell didn't come from the steppe.
You threw the facts on the table. I don't understand why some people are obsessed with northern europe or the steppe. Southern Europe and the near east are amazing on their own merits and are not behind anyone.
I paid for access to the paper, and I'm going over it with a fine-tooth comb. Interestingly, the authors suggest that it is plausible that rather than additional source population of CHG/IN; Neolthic Italian Farmers could be from a different source population different from Central European, and Iberian farmers. Rather, they may have come directly from Central Anatolia, or Northern Greece.
The genomic history of southeastern Europe
Abstract
Farming was first introduced to Europe in the mid-seventh millennium BC, and was associated with migrants from Anatolia who settled in the southeast before spreading throughout Europe. Here, to understand the dynamics of this process, we analysed genome-wide ancient DNA data from 225 individuals who lived in southeastern Europe and surrounding regions between 12000 and 500 BC. We document a west–east cline of ancestry in indigenous hunter-gatherers and, in eastern Europe, the early stages in the formation of Bronze Age steppe ancestry. We show that the first farmers of northern and western Europe dispersed through southeastern Europe with limited hunter-gatherer admixture, but that some early groups in the southeast mixed extensively with hunter-gatherers without the sex-biased admixture that prevailed later in the north and west. We also show that southeastern Europe continued to be a nexus between east and west after the arrival of farmers, with intermittent genetic contact with steppe populations occurring up to 2,000 years earlier than the migrations from the steppe that ultimately replaced much of the population of northern Europe.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25778
What I also find interesting is that they qpAdm model the Central Italian Neolithic ancestry in a two-way mixture as 5% WHG + 95% Neolithic Central Anatolian Farmer/Northern Greece Farmer. With this study as a citation:
Discussed here:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threa...istory-of-southeastern-Europe-Mathiesen-et-al
Holy crap Salento, it's like R437 is your 3rd-4th cousin!R850 Y T-L208 - mtDNA T2c1f
R437 Y R-P312 - mtDNA H10
R850 Y line is a “Remarkable” line, there aren't many of us, but we are everywhere
R850 is a y T1a1... - I’m a y T1a2...
Nobody shares more DNA with R850 than me (as of now), though I share even more with R437.
On what basis do you think you have inherited from thousand of years ago, tens of cM ?
On what basis do you think you have inherited from thousand of years ago, tens of cM ?
My highest matches. Even one 100% compared to other users. Now when I publish I can see even better how they share segments on the same chromosomes.
All my direct matches on MTA:
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