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    The Albanian language!



    Everything about the Albanian language. Its sound, dialects, grammar, etc.

    Albanian is a language of the extensive Indo-European family and is thus related to a certain degree to almost all other languages of Europe. At the same time, Albanian shows no particularly close historical affinity to any other language or language group within the Indo-European family, i.e. it forms a language group of its own.


    Roman trading settlements on the Illyrian coast and Albania’s absorption into the Roman Empire, left noticeable traces in the language.

    The Albanian language is divided into two basic dialect groups: Gheg in the north of the country and Tosk in the south. The Shkumbin River in central Albania, flowing past Elbasan into the Adriatic, forms the approximate boundary between the two dialect regions. Here, in a zone ten to twenty kilometers wide, intermediate dialects are also found.



    The Gheg dialect group, characterized by the presence of nasal vowels, by the retention of the older n for Tosk r (e.g., venë “wine” for Tosk verë; Shqypnia “Albania” for Tosk Shqipëria) and by several distinct morphological features, can be further classified into a northwestern, a northeastern, a central and a southern Gheg dialect.

    The Tosk dialect group is in general more homogenous, though it can be subdivided into a northern, a Labërian or Lab and a Çamërian or Çam dialect.

    The modern literary language (gjuha letrare), agreed upon at the Orthography Congress of 20 to 25 November 1972, is a combination of the two dialect groups, though based about eighty percent on Tosk. It is now a widely accepted standard both in Albania and elsewhere, though there have been increasing tendencies in recent years to revive literary Gheg.

    Arbereshe Tosk subdialect

    This archaic variant of Albanian is spoken by about 90,000 people in southern Italy. Speakers are to be found, usually in remote mountain villages, in the regions of Calabria, Molise, Puglia, Basilicata, Campagnia, Abruzzi and Sicily.

    Arvanitika Tosk subdialect

    Arvanitika, also known as Arvanitic, is the variety of Albanian traditionally spoken by the Arvanites, a population group in Greece. Arvanitika is today endangered, as its speakers have been shifting to the use of Greek and most younger members of the community no longer speak it.





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    I wonder what made the dialect split into two?
    Was it the Turkish influence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinyDust View Post
    I wonder what made the dialect split into two?
    Was it the Turkish influence?
    What dialect, Gheg and Tosk? The Gheg and Tosk dialectal split pre-dates the Ottoman invasion of the Balkans, it even pre-dates the Slavic migrations for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    What dialect, Gheg and Tosk? The Gheg and Tosk dialectal split pre-dates the Ottoman invasion of the Balkans, it even pre-dates the Slavic migrations for that matter.
    Thanks for clarifying.
    I've always wondered that.
    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    What dialect, Gheg and Tosk? The Gheg and Tosk dialectal split pre-dates the Ottoman invasion of the Balkans, it even pre-dates the Slavic migrations for that matter.
    The border between two speaking areas seems to have been ancient via Egnatia. I wish I have any source until when this road was in full use. As far as I know it was abandoned when the Slavs devastated the whole southeast Europe.

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    This means, proto Albanians were present further south of Via Egnatia when the Roman control was still present there, and whether had full control of this ancient road.

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    In simple words, the modern geographic shape of Gheg- Tosk split, most have occurred when this road was still in full use

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glauk View Post

    Arvanitika Tosk subdialect

    Arvanitika, also known as Arvanitic, is the variety of Albanian traditionally spoken by the Arvanites, a population group in Greece. Arvanitika is today endangered, as its speakers have been shifting to the use of Greek and most younger members of the community no longer speak it.




    Seems like the usual Albanian nonsense. The shaded areas in Greece have a population of 5-6 millions.
    Arvanite speakers numbered 50 000 a century ago, and most certainly are less today than then. That there are Albanian populated areas in Epiros anymore is even sillier than that. Cams formed notorious Nazi collaborator units in Epirus that were responsible for countless crimes during the occupation of Greece by the Nazis. Every red dot on the map bellow represents a massacre in South Epirus. Then the tide change, and things had their natural conclusions, and that's that.
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    There arent any Albanian left in Epirus and very few Arvanite speakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parapolitikos View Post
    Seems like the usual Albanian nonsense. The shaded areas in Greece have a population of 5-6 millions.
    Arvanite speakers numbered 50 000 a century ago, and most certainly are less today than then. That there are Albanian populated areas in Epiros anymore is even sillier than that. Cams formed notorious Nazi collaborator units in Epirus that were responsible for countless crimes during the occupation of Greece by the Nazis. Every red dot on the map bellow represents a massacre in South Epirus. Then the tide change, and things had their natural conclusions, and that's that.
    Attachment 11890
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    There arent any Albanian left in Epirus and very few Arvanite speakers.
    77-5158f8355b (1).jpg
    Arvanites were 220,000 in 1890 in Southern Greece excluding rural population.

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