NEW! All Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo ON-LINE

[Lukas]

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/



Ok, maybe not all but those with oracles and without few less used



Every calc has his own website with preinstaled oracle spreadsheet in SOURCE.

Just copy your results from Gedmatch for every calculator and paste them as comma separated values (in one line) in TARGET. And at the beginning of components line, add your name with comma (like in example).





DISTANCE tab shows your distance to spreadsheet references.



SINGLE makes your oracles.

You can remove some references from SOURCE and make targeted runs in SINGLE, when you reload page they will be again added.

Also ADD DIST COL (ADC) function in SINGLE tab is very useful. It changes your results in some way.



I think interesting benefit is making multiple runs for many results at once (MULTI option)





ENJOY!

[Duarte]

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/



Ok, maybe not all but those with oracles and without few less used



Every calc has his own website with preinstaled oracle spreadsheet in SOURCE.

Just copy your results from Gedmatch for every calculator and paste them as comma separated values (in one line) in TARGET. And at the beginning of components line, add your name with comma (like in example).





DISTANCE tab shows your distance to spreadsheet references.



SINGLE makes your oracles.

You can remove some references from SOURCE and make targeted runs in SINGLE, when you reload page they will be again added.

Also ADD DIST COL (ADC) function in SINGLE tab is very useful. It changes your results in some way.



I think interesting benefit is making multiple runs for many results at once (MULTI option)





ENJOY!

Thank you Lucaz. It is always good to know new tools to make comparisons.

[Jovialis]

@mlukus

Do you plan on updating your other calculators with new samples that have come out recently?

[Lukas]

@mlukus

Do you plan on updating your other calculators with new samples that have come out recently?

Yes. I updated or added some refs in K15.

Armenian_West

Armenian_East

Assyrian

Azerbaijani

Azeri_Dagestan

Chechen

Cypriot

Georgian_Jew

Georgian_Laz

Greek_Trabzon

Iranian_Bandari

Iranian_Jew

Iranian_Lur

Iranian_Mazandarani

Iranian_Persian

Iraqi_Jew

Jordanian

Kabardin

Kumyk

Kurd

Kurdish_Jew

Lebanese_Christian

Lezgin

Palestinian

Samaritan

Syrian

Turk_Meskhetian

Turkish_Adana

Turkish_Aydin

Turkish_Balikesir

Turkish_East

Turkish_Kayseri

Turkish_Trabzon

[Jovialis]

Thank you for this tool.

[Lukas]

Thank you for this tool.

Post results:)

[Salento]

Yes. I updated or added some refs in K15.

Armenian_West

Armenian_East

Assyrian

Azerbaijani

Azeri_Dagestan

Chechen

Cypriot

Georgian_Jew

Georgian_Laz

Greek_Trabzon

Iranian_Bandari

Iranian_Jew

Iranian_Lur

Iranian_Mazandarani

Iranian_Persian

Iraqi_Jew

Jordanian

Kabardin

Kumyk

Kurd

Kurdish_Jew

Lebanese_Christian

Lezgin

Palestinian

Samaritan

Syrian

Turk_Meskhetian

Turkish_Adana

Turkish_Aydin

Turkish_Balikesir

Turkish_East

Turkish_Kayseri

Turkish_Trabzon

... for update, I’m thinking the K36 Ancient Oracle with the new Etruscans, Latins, Romans, ...

... interesting :)

[Jovialis]

... for update, I’m thinking the K36 Ancient Oracle with the new Etruscans, Latins, Romans, ...
... interesting :)

That's actually what I was referring to as well. I'd like to see the new samples from the Antonio M. et al 2019 paper, added.

It would be helpful to see the coordinates added, since other users have not been forthcoming with gedmatch kit numbers.

Where are the heatmaps for R850 and R437???? Is there something that some people would rather not show????

[Lukas]

That's actually what I was referring to as well. I'd like to see the new samples from the Antonio M. et al 2019 paper, added.
It would be helpful to see the coordinates added, since other users have not been forthcoming with gedmatch kit numbers.

Oh this. Ok. I think new Italian ancients are most needed indeed:)

[Jovialis]

Oh this. Ok. I think new Italian ancients are most needed indeed:)

Many thanks in advance :)

[Lukas]

Thanks mlukas. Can you specify the list of populations? Errors appears.

Add your results in such format

For example K3 result

eurasian 97.1
african 2.9
East-asia 0

for vahaduo:

yournick,97.1,2.9,0

[Duarte]

The results displayed on the “distance” tab are the same as those displayed in the “Oracle-4 Least-squares method, 1 population” of the GEDmatch calculators, with the difference that “vahaduo” displays 25 populations against 20 populations displayed by the GEDmatch calculators.
In fact, on the "single" and "multi" tabs you can choose, by selecting the "ADD DIST COL" option, the number of populations that should be displayed (the options are NO, 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2). In this sense, the smaller the number chosen, the smaller the distance and the greater the number of populations displayed. Conversely, the higher the number chosen, the greater the distance and the smaller the number of populations displayed. The NO option causes oracle vahaduo to display over a dozen populations, which, IMO, makes the results much more speculative than those displayed in the “Oracle-4 Least-squares method, 4 populations” of the GEDmatch calculators. It's an interesting tool, though, and worth having fun with. I really liked the MDLP K11 tool because in “single” and “multi” modes, selecting NO under “ADD DIST COL” will display the percentages corresponding to neandertals and denisovans, which do not appear in the equivalent GEDmatch calculator in “Oracle-4 Least squares method, 4 populations ”. I am fascinated by these homo species.

Below the results MDLP K11 GEDmatch and Vahaduo.



Distance: 0.21710405



Distance: 0.18807814



Gedmatch.Com

MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Maros_BA @ 14.075006
2 Vatya_MBA @ 15.678591
3 Germany_BA @ 16.187374
4 Germany_Bronze_Age @ 16.187374
5 British_Celtic @ 20.002264
6 Hungary_MBA @ 20.244434
7 Hungary_BA @ 21.059147
8 Alberstedt_LN @ 21.917471
9 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 22.091158
10 British_IronAge @ 22.272991
11 Hungary_IronAge @ 23.019497
12 Halberstadt_LBA @ 23.490120
13 Nordic_MN_B @ 23.821121
14 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 24.320074
15 Swedish_LN @ 24.722479
16 Nordic_BA @ 25.021477
17 British_AngloSaxon @ 25.036400
18 Bell_Beaker @ 25.735971
19 Nordic_LN @ 25.988209
20 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 26.021982

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Baltic_LBA +50% GermanStuttgart_LBK @ 7.482058


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bell_Beaker_Czech +25% British_Roman +25% Remedello_BA @ 6.481935


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Greek_Neolithic + Armenia_LBA + Baltic_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 5.435480
2 Greek_Neolithic + Armenia_Chalcolithic + Baltic_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 5.559091
3 British_Roman + Nordic_MN_B + Nordic_MN_B + Remedello_BA @ 5.694587
4 Greek_Neolithic + Armenia_MLBA + Baltic_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 5.746418
5 British_Roman + Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland + Nordic_MN_B + Remedello_BA @ 5.867424
6 Baltic_LBA + Iran_Chalcolithic + Irish_LN + Irish_LN @ 5.907168
7 British_Roman + Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland + Europe_EN + Nordic_MN_B @ 5.976322
8 Baltic_LBA + British_Roman + Hungary_MBA + Iberian_Chalcolitic @ 5.985703
9 Baltic_LBA + British_Celtic + British_Roman + Spain_EN @ 5.994875
10 Anatolia_Neolithic + Armenia_LBA + Baltic_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 5.996984
11 British_Roman + Irish_BA + Nordic_MN_B + Remedello_BA @ 6.008116
12 Bell_Beaker_Czech + British_Roman + Nordic_MN_B + Remedello_BA @ 6.022287
13 Baltic_LBA + British_Celtic + British_Roman + Europe_EN @ 6.030338
14 British_Roman + Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland + Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland + Europe_EN @ 6.030625
15 Baltic_LBA + British_Roman + Hungary_MBA + Irish_LN @ 6.037634
16 Baltic_LBA + British_Roman + Nordic_MN_B + Spain_EN @ 6.049317
17 Baltic_LBA + British_Roman + Maros_BA + Remedello_BA @ 6.049735
18 British_AngloSaxon + British_Roman + Irish_BA + Remedello_BA @ 6.070600
19 Baltic_LBA + British_Roman + Germany_BA + Remedello_BA @ 6.071047
20 Baltic_LBA + British_Roman + Germany_Bronze_Age + Remedello_BA @ 6.071047

Done.

[Jovialis]

Oh this. Ok. I think new Italian ancients are most needed indeed:)

It will be great to have those Antonio M. Et al sample gedmatch kit numbers for this tool. Thanks again.

[Salento]

GedMatch - MDLP - K11 4 Ancestors Oracle

[Salento]

MDLP K11 at GedMatch, is the only calculator where I get Amerindian.

A whopping 0.30% (take that Elizabeth Warren)

[Carlos]

MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Baltic_LBA +50% GermanStuttgart_LBK @ 5.960299


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Corded_Ware_Germany +25% Europe_EN +25% Levant_N @ 3.257658


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
1 Armenia_Chalcolithic + Baltic_LBA + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Swedish_LN @ 2.348543

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Duarte]

MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Baltic_LBA +50% GermanStuttgart_LBK @ 5.960299


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Corded_Ware_Germany +25% Europe_EN +25% Levant_N @ 3.257658


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
1 Armenia_Chalcolithic + Baltic_LBA + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Swedish_LN @ 2.348543

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

@Carlos
Hi cousin :)
Good morning.

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 303.4 cM (8.461 Pct)
Largest segment = 4.5 cM
185 shared segments found for this comparison.
631075 SNPs used for this comparison.
54.685 Pct SNPs are full identical (WOW)

[Carlos]

How's Duarte?

Good results.


Our destinies have been reunited virtually for some reason that reason does not understand.

[Jovialis]

[Duarte]

Vahaduo MDLP K11. ADD DIST COL - ADC - 0.25x

[Jovialis]

I have composed the MDLP K11 coordinates of the Mycenaean and Minoan samples, courtesy of Brick's post of their Gedmatch kit numbers.

My closest sample is the Crete_Armenoi sample.

Also a marked change in the top results, compared from the vanilla version of MDLP K11, with the inclusion of these samples.

Below are the coordinates that I pasted into the "Source" tab:

Mycenaean_I9006,0.77,0.31,0.00,16.04,6.93,50.42,0. 19,20.21,0.00,0.00,5.13
Mycenaean_I9033,2.49,0.00,0.00,11.92,6.57,51.82,0. 00,16.70,0.79,0.32,9.39
Mycenaean_I9010,0.78,0.58,0.00,19.75,1.57,54.35,0. 00,15.11,0.00,0.81,7.05
Mycenaean_I9041,0.47,0.41,0.00,17.35,4.38,49.58,0. 35,19.52,0.00,0.00,7.94
Crete_Armenoi_I9123,0.88,5.69,0.00,8.94,3.40,45.28 ,0.35,21.51,0.00,0.00,13.96
Minoan_Lasithi_I9005,0.56,0.00,0.00,20.48,1.78,58. 89,0.00,18.29,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Lasithi_I0070,0.16,0.00,0.00,20.75,1.55,59. 94,0.00,17.60,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Lasithi_I0071,0.14,0.00,0.00,18.94,4.94,58. 27,0.00,17.72,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Lasithi_I0073,0.25,0.28,0.11,18.83,2.42,60. 45,0.00,17.67,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Lasithi_I0074,0.00,0.24,0.00,18.89,2.84,60. 58,0.00,16.88,0.00,0.57,0.00
Minoan_Odigitria_I9127,0.00,0.00,0.00,17.10,5.62,5 8.85,0.00,18.43,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Odigitria_I9129,0.00,0.00,1.11,19.68,4.70,5 7.86,1.31,15.34,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Odigitria_I9128,0.56,0.00,0.00,17.13,18.59, 58.18,0.00,4.23,0.00,0.00,1.31
Minoan_Odigitria_I9130,0.00,0.00,0.33,20.20,2.41,6 2.59,0.00,12.90,0.00,0.00,1.58
Minoan_Odigitria_I9131,0.00,0.00,0.00,18.74,4.70,6 0.28,0.44,15.84,0.00,0.00,0.00

[Carlos]

K11








My God, I was in the macro murder of Transylvania, I had nothing to do with it.

[Jovialis]

FYI: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...l=1#post593216

[Carlos]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goyet_Caves

My results

Goyet56_16- Gravettian
GoyetQ376_19


In 2016, researchers successfully extracted DNA from several ancient human fossils at Goyet (with direct dates): GoyetQ116-1 (35,160-34,430 BP) and GoyetQ376-3 (33,940-33,140 BP) from the Aurignacian; GoyetQ376-19 (27,720-27,310 BP), GoyetQ53-1 (28,230-27,720 BP), GoyetQ55-2 (27,730-27,310 BP), GoyetQ56-16 (26,600-26,040 BP) and Goyet2878-21 (27,060-26,270 BP) from the Gravettian; and GoyetQ-2 (15,230-14,780 BP) from the Magdalenian. GoyetQ376-19, Goyet53-1 and Goyet56-16 were found to cluster genetically with several other Gravettian individuals from Europe in the Věstonice Cluster, while GoyetQ-2 was found to cluster genetically with several other Magdalenian individuals from Europe in the El Mirón Cluster

With domesticated dog and everything. You will not go to bed without learning something new.

I will investigate the rest, since it is the first time I hear those names, Ave Maria.

https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1006852
The population genomics of archaeological transition in west Iberia: Investigation of ancient substructure using imputation and haplotype-based methods

[Lukas]

I have composed the MDLP K11 coordinates of the Mycenaean and Minoan samples, courtesy of Brick's post of their Gedmatch kit numbers.

My closest sample is the Crete_Armenoi sample.

Also a marked change in the top results, compared from the vanilla version of MDLP K11, with the inclusion of these samples.

Below are the coordinates that I pasted into the "Source" tab:

Mycenaean_I9006,0.77,0.31,0.00,16.04,6.93,50.42,0. 19,20.21,0.00,0.00,5.13
Mycenaean_I9033,2.49,0.00,0.00,11.92,6.57,51.82,0. 00,16.70,0.79,0.32,9.39
Mycenaean_I9010,0.78,0.58,0.00,19.75,1.57,54.35,0. 00,15.11,0.00,0.81,7.05
Mycenaean_I9041,0.47,0.41,0.00,17.35,4.38,49.58,0. 35,19.52,0.00,0.00,7.94
Crete_Armenoi_I9123,0.88,5.69,0.00,8.94,3.40,45.28 ,0.35,21.51,0.00,0.00,13.96
Minoan_Lasithi_I9005,0.56,0.00,0.00,20.48,1.78,58. 89,0.00,18.29,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Lasithi_I0070,0.16,0.00,0.00,20.75,1.55,59. 94,0.00,17.60,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Lasithi_I0071,0.14,0.00,0.00,18.94,4.94,58. 27,0.00,17.72,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Lasithi_I0073,0.25,0.28,0.11,18.83,2.42,60. 45,0.00,17.67,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Lasithi_I0074,0.00,0.24,0.00,18.89,2.84,60. 58,0.00,16.88,0.00,0.57,0.00
Minoan_Odigitria_I9127,0.00,0.00,0.00,17.10,5.62,5 8.85,0.00,18.43,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Odigitria_I9129,0.00,0.00,1.11,19.68,4.70,5 7.86,1.31,15.34,0.00,0.00,0.00
Minoan_Odigitria_I9128,0.56,0.00,0.00,17.13,18.59, 58.18,0.00,4.23,0.00,0.00,1.31
Minoan_Odigitria_I9130,0.00,0.00,0.33,20.20,2.41,6 2.59,0.00,12.90,0.00,0.00,1.58
Minoan_Odigitria_I9131,0.00,0.00,0.00,18.74,4.70,6 0.28,0.44,15.84,0.00,0.00,0.00

Cool. I added to standard spredsheet on Vahaduo!