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    This is where Raveane et al state they got their samples:


    Whoever uploaded these coordinates to the K12b updated may be calling the Borbera Valley Liguria, but that's not exactly correct. They should include the Genova sample as well. Likewise, Tortora is not precisely Piemonte and nor is it Emilian. These are isolated river valleys.

    Obviously, they have a lot of Bergamo samples, more than HGDP.

    I don't know if they're using Volterra for Tuscan, but that's a very far southern Tuscan sample. Or are they using it for Central Italian?

    They kept the two Puglia samples separate. They should have done the same for the Calabrians.

    I don't know where they got the Friuli, Veneto etc. samples. They're certainly not from Grugni.

    As I said, I also don't know how they chose the Corsica sample.

    I'd love to see someone else download and prepare all of the samples they've released, and an average for the samples from the Corsica paper as well.

    I think someone told me that Eurogenes didn't use all the available samples for G25. Is that correct?

    When people upload samples to a calculator we should know the source, i.e. the paper, as we do for the Szolad and Collegno samples, and the Antonio samples.


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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    running mine with same additions as yourself ........................clearly the lombard/hungarian samples seem to have a hold of my line

    Distance to: Torziok12b
    2.57738938 Italy_FriuliVG
    2.91721398 Italy_Veneto
    3.15360272 Italy_Piedmont
    4.32371831 Italy_Trentino
    4.65249395 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    4.82277928 CL23
    4.86300319 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    5.21059138 Swiss_Italian
    5.62034319 Italy_Lombardy
    6.00532264 SZ28
    6.33094275 Italy_Liguria
    6.60955369 CL49
    6.64383556 Italy_Emilia
    6.93799683 CL94
    6.96106620 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    7.62312272 CL57
    7.70831369 CL36
    7.72828571 CL47
    7.93197958 SZ45
    8.00853232 Italy_Tuscany
    8.04563857 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R110
    8.04854024 SZ43
    8.12515231 SZ27
    9.50909039 CL102
    9.57848631 SZ18
    this below is the correct.............I left a block of samples out of the above ..................so above is in error.



    my cousin from Trentino below

    Distance to: TrentinoCles
    2.45869884 Imperial_Rome_Mausoleo_Augusto_R33
    3.75795157 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    3.85072720 SZ28
    4.14305918 Italy_Veneto
    4.27906532 SZ43
    4.66815569 Italy_Lombardy
    4.82467099 Italy_Liguria
    5.11384405 Italy_Emilia
    5.48084210 Italy_Piedmont
    5.74693571 Italy_Tuscany
    6.05645936 CL36
    6.11802256 Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R55
    6.15176853 Italy_FriuliVG
    6.50109222 CL23
    6.53108720 SZ31
    6.62085059 Swiss_Italian
    7.19608922 Italy_Trentino
    7.22083098 Italy_Romagna
    7.89238874 CL49
    7.97467241 SZ36
    8.36066385 Albanian_North
    8.58509755 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    8.65458260 Albanian_Kosovo
    9.10143395 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R110
    9.24717795 RomanCarthagoMixIberia_I8475

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    Distance to: New_Englander
    3.95953280 MA_Villa_Magna_R60
    4.29397252 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    4.98184705 Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549
    5.01274117 Italy_Lazio
    5.26657384 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969
    5.28824167 SZ37
    5.97147385 SZ36
    6.29007695 Italy_Apulia
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    7.14725122 SZ31
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    7.98581868 Italy_Romagna
    8.04194628 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107
    8.19025641 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836
    8.29413045 MA_Cancelleria_R1283
    8.44258847 CL121
    8.70839825 Albanian_North
    8.74982286 MA_Villa_Magna_R59
    9.12608350 CL36
    9.44677194 Greek


    Target: New_Englander
    Distance: 0.0825% / 0.08246870

    6.8 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107
    5.6 Assyrian
    5.0 SZ36
    4.8 Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R136
    4.4 Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548
    4.2 Cypriots
    3.2 Swiss_Italian
    2.8 Greek_Pontus
    2.6 Albanian_North
    2.6 Italy_Romagna
    2.6 Lithuanian
    2.4 German
    2.4 Mixed_Germanic
    2.4 Romanians
    1.8 Bosnian
    1.8 Georgian_Imereti
    1.8 N_Grotta_Continenza_R9
    1.8 SZ13
    1.6 Cataluna
    1.6 CEU30
    1.6 Polish
    1.6 Samaritians
    1.6 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836
    1.6 IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    1.6 CL25
    1.6 TartessianArchaicAndalusia_I12561
    1.4 Greek
    1.4 Hemshin
    1.4 Iraq_Jews
    1.4 Saudis
    1.4 Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R55
    1.4 SZ19
    1.2 Yemen_Jews
    1.2 Lombard_Buried_Rome_R106
    1.0 Belorussian
    1.0 Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1543
    1.0 Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R38
    1.0 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    1.0 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
    0.8 Argyll
    0.8 Baleares
    0.8 French
    0.8 French
    0.8 CL63
    0.6 Armenian_West
    0.6 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
    0.6 Italy_Lombardy
    0.6 France_Corsica
    0.6 Laz
    0.6 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
    0.6 CL151
    0.6 SZ8
    0.4 Abhkasians
    0.4 Italy_Lazio
    0.4 Piramalai_Kallars
    0.4 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    0.4 SZ2
    0.2 GIH30
    0.2 Pulliyar
    0.2 Sardinian
    0.2 N_Grotta_Continenza_R2
    0.2 LBA_ElSotillo_Alava_I2469
    0.2 TartessianArchaicAndalusia_I12561
    0.2 CL121
    0.2 RomanEraGirona_I8339

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I think it is K15
    based on Grugni 2018 paper
    and this regional data


    Italia_Val_d_Aosta,25.41,24.37,9.11,2.14,18.18,5.1 8,12.89,1.82,0,0.14,0.26,0.05,0.23,0.14,0.03
    Italia_Piemonte,19.28,23.71,7.82,4.67,19.93,6.66,1 4.21,2.82,0.6,0.01,0.1,0.09,0.15,0.01,0.17
    Italia_Ticino,22.8,23.57,6.92,5.78,20.65,4.11,13.1 5,2.55,0,0,0,0.21,0.02,0.19,0
    Italia_Insubria,20.25,23.17,6.95,2.68,21.05,6.51,1 6.43,2.23,0.02,0.19,0.04,0.04,0.11,0.15,0.03
    Italia_Lombardia,19.84,22.41,6.98,3.53,20.32,7.22, 15.92,2.73,0.34,0.2,0.12,0,0.22,0.03,0.02
    Italia_Orobia,18.64,23.16,7.08,3.13,21.11,6.94,16. 78,2.39,0.13,0.11,0.12,0.06,0.12,0.15,0
    Italia_Bergamo,17.2,24.91,6.3,3.61,21.1,7.11,16.52 ,2.7,0.08,0.11,0.04,0,0.16,0.12,0
    Italia_Brescia,18.29,23.54,6.24,3.38,21.57,6.58,17 .99,1.88,0.13,0,0.15,0.13,0.01,0.05,0
    Italia_Trentino,21.17,21.45,9.97,5.67,19.19,5.71,1 4.14,1.6,0,0.08,0.05,0.34,0.38,0.19,0
    Italia_Veneto,18.38,22.48,9.33,4.48,19.47,8.18,14. 8,1.87,0.13,0.19,0.38,0.2,0.03,0,0.02
    Italia_Friuli,18.28,20.89,9.71,6.3,17.72,7.73,15.6 1,2.73,0.27,0.23,0,0.34,0.09,0.03,0
    Italia_Liguria,18.89,20.85,6.57,3.3,19.99,8.12,18. 12,3.21,0.3,0.11,0.05,0.14,0.2,0.04,0.05
    Italia_Emilia_Est,19.61,17.93,6.98,2.85,20.51,7.47 ,19.69,3.92,0.1,0.31,0.01,0,0.36,0.16,0.03
    Italia_Emilia,17.09,22.09,6.51,2.76,20.45,7.88,19. 25,2.66,0.12,0.23,0,0.25,0.56,0.09,0.01
    Italia_Romagna,15.39,19.53,6.06,2.76,20.02,11.42,2 0.81,3.53,0,0.27,0,0.08,0.03,0.06,0
    Italia_Ager_Gallicus,14.31,17.3,6.24,2.66,20.71,11 .7,22.42,3.15,0.29,0.21,0,0.49,0.17,0.32,0
    Italia_Toscana,16.08,19.73,7.22,3.37,20.24,9.46,19 .64,3.33,0.43,0.14,0,0.03,0.08,0.1,0.06
    Italia_Marche,14.58,16.59,6.1,1.66,18.6,12.77,24.2 2,5.27,0.08,0.07,0.02,0.27,0.12,0.13,0.15
    Italia_Umbria,11.81,20.9,4.8,3.84,18.93,11.3,23.12 ,4.06,0.26,0.25,0,0,0.61,0.08,0
    Italia_Lazio,15.38,17.54,5.91,2.24,19.39,11.2,23.6 5,3.75,0.22,0.13,0.08,0.31,0.1,0.14,0.02
    FR_Italia_Corsica,15.68,20.17,4.72,2.02,22.97,7.39 ,22.33,3.9,0.04,0,0.12,0.08,0.41,0.1,0
    Italia_Abruzzo,12.63,15.65,6,2.53,17.25,13.12,26.5 5,5.01,0.11,0.11,0.24,0.12,0.27,0.35,0
    Italia_Campania,10.22,15.97,5.69,1.76,17.24,14.18, 27.95,5.58,0.36,0.18,0.01,0.1,0.08,0.44,0.07
    Italia_Molise,12.64,15.55,4.9,2.66,19.12,13.88,26. 57,4.89,0.12,0.17,0.12,0.21,0.07,0.16,0.03
    Italia_Basilicata,12.9,13.78,5.31,2.62,17.24,14.57 ,26.56,5.49,0.2,0.05,0,0,0.32,0.75,0.16
    Italia_Salento,10.2,15.75,4.62,2.93,18.01,14.06,29 .54,4.33,0,0,0,0.09,0.22,0.16,0
    Italia_Puglia,11.44,13.61,6.71,2.69,17.81,15.01,26 .47,5.1,0.18,0.02,0.01,0.16,0.32,0.3,0.09
    Italia_Calabria,7.3,14.31,5.07,0.88,17.24,16.23,30 .57,6.58,0.11,0.33,0,0.03,0.33,0.72,0.19
    Italia_Sicilia,9.54,14.62,4.97,1.31,18.21,15.22,28 ,5.32,0.08,0.38,0.31,0.17,0.23,1.28,0.48
    MA_Malta,6.412,15.962,4.828,1.31,18.664,13.406,29. 816,5.644,0,0.51,0.108,0,0.286,1.724,1.322
    Italia_Sardegna,8.1,21.38,1.97,0,43.44,1.07,19.54, 3.13,0,0.11,0,0,0.15,0.43,0.04
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Italia_Val_d_Aosta,25.41,24.37,9.11,2.14,18.18,5.1 8,12.89,1.82,0,0.14,0.26,0.05,0.23,0.14,0.03
    Italia_Piemonte,19.28,23.71,7.82,4.67,19.93,6.66,1 4.21,2.82,0.6,0.01,0.1,0.09,0.15,0.01,0.17
    Italia_Ticino,22.8,23.57,6.92,5.78,20.65,4.11,13.1 5,2.55,0,0,0,0.21,0.02,0.19,0
    Italia_Insubria,20.25,23.17,6.95,2.68,21.05,6.51,1 6.43,2.23,0.02,0.19,0.04,0.04,0.11,0.15,0.03
    Italia_Lombardia,19.84,22.41,6.98,3.53,20.32,7.22, 15.92,2.73,0.34,0.2,0.12,0,0.22,0.03,0.02
    Italia_Orobia,18.64,23.16,7.08,3.13,21.11,6.94,16. 78,2.39,0.13,0.11,0.12,0.06,0.12,0.15,0
    Italia_Bergamo,17.2,24.91,6.3,3.61,21.1,7.11,16.52 ,2.7,0.08,0.11,0.04,0,0.16,0.12,0
    Italia_Brescia,18.29,23.54,6.24,3.38,21.57,6.58,17 .99,1.88,0.13,0,0.15,0.13,0.01,0.05,0
    Italia_Trentino,21.17,21.45,9.97,5.67,19.19,5.71,1 4.14,1.6,0,0.08,0.05,0.34,0.38,0.19,0
    Italia_Veneto,18.38,22.48,9.33,4.48,19.47,8.18,14. 8,1.87,0.13,0.19,0.38,0.2,0.03,0,0.02
    Italia_Friuli,18.28,20.89,9.71,6.3,17.72,7.73,15.6 1,2.73,0.27,0.23,0,0.34,0.09,0.03,0
    Italia_Liguria,18.89,20.85,6.57,3.3,19.99,8.12,18. 12,3.21,0.3,0.11,0.05,0.14,0.2,0.04,0.05
    Italia_Emilia_Est,19.61,17.93,6.98,2.85,20.51,7.47 ,19.69,3.92,0.1,0.31,0.01,0,0.36,0.16,0.03
    Italia_Emilia,17.09,22.09,6.51,2.76,20.45,7.88,19. 25,2.66,0.12,0.23,0,0.25,0.56,0.09,0.01
    Italia_Romagna,15.39,19.53,6.06,2.76,20.02,11.42,2 0.81,3.53,0,0.27,0,0.08,0.03,0.06,0
    Italia_Ager_Gallicus,14.31,17.3,6.24,2.66,20.71,11 .7,22.42,3.15,0.29,0.21,0,0.49,0.17,0.32,0
    Italia_Toscana,16.08,19.73,7.22,3.37,20.24,9.46,19 .64,3.33,0.43,0.14,0,0.03,0.08,0.1,0.06
    Italia_Marche,14.58,16.59,6.1,1.66,18.6,12.77,24.2 2,5.27,0.08,0.07,0.02,0.27,0.12,0.13,0.15
    Italia_Umbria,11.81,20.9,4.8,3.84,18.93,11.3,23.12 ,4.06,0.26,0.25,0,0,0.61,0.08,0
    Italia_Lazio,15.38,17.54,5.91,2.24,19.39,11.2,23.6 5,3.75,0.22,0.13,0.08,0.31,0.1,0.14,0.02
    FR_Italia_Corsica,15.68,20.17,4.72,2.02,22.97,7.39 ,22.33,3.9,0.04,0,0.12,0.08,0.41,0.1,0
    Italia_Abruzzo,12.63,15.65,6,2.53,17.25,13.12,26.5 5,5.01,0.11,0.11,0.24,0.12,0.27,0.35,0
    Italia_Campania,10.22,15.97,5.69,1.76,17.24,14.18, 27.95,5.58,0.36,0.18,0.01,0.1,0.08,0.44,0.07
    Italia_Molise,12.64,15.55,4.9,2.66,19.12,13.88,26. 57,4.89,0.12,0.17,0.12,0.21,0.07,0.16,0.03
    Italia_Basilicata,12.9,13.78,5.31,2.62,17.24,14.57 ,26.56,5.49,0.2,0.05,0,0,0.32,0.75,0.16
    Italia_Salento,10.2,15.75,4.62,2.93,18.01,14.06,29 .54,4.33,0,0,0,0.09,0.22,0.16,0
    Italia_Puglia,11.44,13.61,6.71,2.69,17.81,15.01,26 .47,5.1,0.18,0.02,0.01,0.16,0.32,0.3,0.09
    Italia_Calabria,7.3,14.31,5.07,0.88,17.24,16.23,30 .57,6.58,0.11,0.33,0,0.03,0.33,0.72,0.19
    Italia_Sicilia,9.54,14.62,4.97,1.31,18.21,15.22,28 ,5.32,0.08,0.38,0.31,0.17,0.23,1.28,0.48
    MA_Malta,6.412,15.962,4.828,1.31,18.664,13.406,29. 816,5.644,0,0.51,0.108,0,0.286,1.724,1.322
    Italia_Sardegna,8.1,21.38,1.97,0,43.44,1.07,19.54, 3.13,0,0.11,0,0,0.15,0.43,0.04
    thanks for this

    Distance to: Torzio15
    5.08062004 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    6.43965061 Italia_Veneto
    6.57942247 Italia_Friuli
    7.29623190 Italia_Piemonte
    7.64346126 Italia_Bergamo
    8.61271734 Italia_Orobia
    8.90354424 Italia_Lombardia
    8.97209563 BronzAgeBalkan
    9.09990659 Italia_Trentino
    9.22158880 Italia_Brescia
    9.32736833 Italia_Emilia
    9.59247622 Italia_Toscana
    9.64245301 Italia_Liguria
    9.90119185 Italia_Insubria
    10.40075959 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.60804412 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
    11.16847349 Italia_Ticino
    11.21936273 Italia_Romagna
    11.86016863 Vucedol_I3499
    12.27357731 Italia_Umbria
    12.32759101 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
    12.37785927 Italia_Emilia_Est
    12.41480970 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    13.22829543 FR_Italia_Corsica
    13.32980120 Italia_Ager_Gallicus



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    Eurogenes k15 ancient adding in Source the regional coordinates by Salento.


    Distance to: Stuvanè
    4.06595622 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    8.25298734 Italia_Umbria
    9.10625609 Italia_Toscana
    9.11383015 Italia_Emilia
    9.29851601 Italia_Bergamo
    9.30705109 Italia_Romagna
    10.12929415 Italia_Veneto
    10.16353777 Italia_Friuli
    10.47946564 Italia_Liguria
    10.50258064 Italia_Orobia
    10.62931795 Italia_Brescia
    11.08832269 Italia_Piemonte
    11.29565403 Italia_Lombardia
    11.32528587 Italia_Ager_Gallicus
    11.45519969 Italia_Lazio
    11.77299452 BronzAgeBalkan
    11.79011026 FR_Italia_Corsica
    11.93661175 Italia_Insubria
    12.20388053 Italia_Marche
    12.79597202 Italia_Emilia_Est
    13.35829705 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    13.51964497 Italia_Abruzzo
    13.54733184 Italia_Trentino
    13.65697990 Vucedol_I3499
    14.11556233 ScythianMoldova_SCY197


    Compared to other calculators it makes me slide into more central areas, but at the same time it increases the distance

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    Very nice, guys. Thank you Salento. But the EU K15 Ancient calculator, including the samples of modern Italians by Grugni, does not work well for me, given the additions of Italian IA samples at the request of Jovialis (from the paper "Ancient Rome: A Genetic Crossroads of Europe and the Mediterraneane") and the almost absolute absence of samples from the paper "The Genomic History of the Iberian Peninsula over the Past 8000 Years". I will convert the BAM files I have from the old Iberians to the EU K15 coordinates. As it stands, including Salento's information, I transform in an Italian, LOL :)
    With the inclusion of ancient Iberians I will have more realistic results for me. Greetings everyone :)
    See below:

    Distance to: Duarte
    8.19685915 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    9.15566491 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    10.16247509 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    10.17546068 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.45901525 Italia_Ticino
    10.58889040 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
    10.59870275 RomanSoldier_FN2
    11.01365516 IA_Ardea_R851
    11.24096971 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    11.63477116 BronzAgeBalkan
    11.92893122 Italia_Piemonte
    12.24475806 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
    12.32179370 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    12.36717429 Italia_Insubria
    12.66481346 Italia_Bergamo
    12.71951257 Italia_Val_d_Aosta
    12.82590738 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
    12.94141028 Italia_Lombardia
    12.94905016 Italia_Orobia
    13.30939893 Italia_Brescia
    13.52600089 Italia_Trentino
    14.01500268 Italia_Veneto
    14.35259907 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
    15.05494603 Vucedol_I3499
    15.35132893 Italia_Liguria

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    @Duarte the difference is small.
    ... maybe some of the EU k15 Italian samples work better with some Italians :) lol

    Distance to: Salento_me
    5.47452281 Italy_Apulia
    5.59263802 Italia_Puglia
    5.66880058 Italia_Salento
    6.01311068 Italy_Campania
    6.26249950 Italia_Campania
    6.31409534 Italia_Abruzzo
    6.32059333 Italia_Basilicata

    5.84198596 Italia_Puglia
    5.99903326 Italy_Apulia
    6.04932228 Italia_Salento
    6.42168981 Italia_Basilicata
    6.46659106 Italia_Abruzzo
    6.52557277 Italy_Campania
    6.68038173 Italia_Campania
    6.90737287 Italy_Abruzzo

    5.87783123 Italia_Salento
    5.95548487 Italy_Apulia


    Edit:
    Italian samples from post: #192 vs #329
    Italy_.... vs Italia_...

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...l=1#post594299

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...l=1#post594676
    Last edited by Salento; 06-01-20 at 19:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Very nice, guys. Thank you Salento. But the EU K15 Ancient calculator, including the samples of modern Italians by Grugni, does not work well for me, given the additions of Italian IA samples at the request of Jovialis (from the paper "Ancient Rome: A Genetic Crossroads of Europe and the Mediterraneane") and the almost absolute absence of samples from the paper "The Genomic History of the Iberian Peninsula over the Past 8000 Years". I will convert the BAM files I have from the old Iberians to the EU K15 coordinates. As it stands, including Salento's information, I transform in an Italian, LOL :)
    With the inclusion of ancient Iberians I will have more realistic results for me. Greetings everyone :)
    See below:

    Distance to: Duarte
    8.19685915 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    9.15566491 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    10.16247509 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    10.17546068 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.45901525 Italia_Ticino
    10.58889040 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
    10.59870275 RomanSoldier_FN2
    11.01365516 IA_Ardea_R851
    11.24096971 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    11.63477116 BronzAgeBalkan
    11.92893122 Italia_Piemonte
    12.24475806 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
    12.32179370 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    12.36717429 Italia_Insubria
    12.66481346 Italia_Bergamo
    12.71951257 Italia_Val_d_Aosta
    12.82590738 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
    12.94141028 Italia_Lombardia
    12.94905016 Italia_Orobia
    13.30939893 Italia_Brescia
    13.52600089 Italia_Trentino
    14.01500268 Italia_Veneto
    14.35259907 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
    15.05494603 Vucedol_I3499
    15.35132893 Italia_Liguria
    Looking at your results ................I see your ancestors left Italy ( if they where ever in italy ) in the Roman period, because your modern Italian results are non existent in the first 10 .....................so you cannot be an Italian, a Roman yes, maybe...............or a Roman that migrated

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Looking at your results ................I see your ancestors left Italy ( if they where ever in italy ) in the Roman period, because your modern Italian results are non existent in the first 10 .....................so you cannot be an Italian, a Roman yes, maybe...............or a Roman that migrated
    Thank you Torzio. In fact, you're right, although the result for "Italia_Ticino" is among my Top 5. But I prefer to be just Brazilian, or Luso-Brazilian at best.
    With some changes to the default vahaduo calculator, what you said was clear.

    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet.

    Source excluded (Vahaduo default):
    Italy_Aostavalley,26.62,25.03,7.48,4.39,17.71,6.75 ,9.38,1.80,0.00,0.02,0.17,0.19,0.14,0.15,0.16
    Italy_Piedmont,21.38,25.13,7.86,4.01,19.32,6.70,12 .69,2.19,0.11,0.01,0.06,0.12,0.24,0.13,0.03
    Italy_Trentino,21.92,21.72,11.28,5.55,18.46,5.83,1 3.09,1.32,0.00,0.03,0.11,0.16,0.47,0.06,0.00
    Italy_Abruzzo,11.25,15.03,6.36,2.91,16.39,15.65,26 .38,5.48,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.17,0.07
    Italy_Apulia,9.50,14.93,6.66,2.94,17.44,14.90,27.2 4,4.99,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.18,0.58,0.55,0.01
    Italy_Calabria,8.07,12.92,4.55,1.98,17.48,15.12,31 .66,6.46,0.13,0.11,0.04,0.09,0.36,0.97,0.07
    Italy_Campania,8.83,15.10,5.33,2.06,18.31,14.96,29 .68,5.57,0.12,0.14,0.04,0.06,0.13,0.56,0.08
    Italy_Central_Sicily,8.94,14.64,4.78,1.31,17.60,14 .12,29.14,6.68,0.05,0.15,0.03,0.14,0.20,1.84,0.36
    Italy_East_Sicily,8.07,12.81,4.41,1.82,18.07,15.44 ,30.59,6.26,0.22,0.18,0.13,0.07,0.23,1.20,0.48
    Italy_West_Sicily,9.37,13.38,4.79,1.71,18.12,13.93 ,30.01,5.89,0.32,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.21,0.98,0.85
    Italy_Emiliaromagna,17.94,19.13,7.04,3.17,20.08,8. 91,19.65,3.29,0.03,0.12,0.00,0.04,0.29,0.15,0.02
    Italy_Friuli,19.00,21.50,10.42,6.03,17.50,7.38,14. 76,2.41,0.28,0.15,0.02,0.34,0.06,0.13,0.00
    Italy_Lazio,15.18,17.36,7.06,2.43,19.99,9.92,23.83 ,3.74,0.07,0.14,0.03,0.10,0.03,0.05,0.09
    Italy_Liguria,18.23,21.71,6.84,3.24,20.21,7.98,17. 82,3.03,0.11,0.17,0.07,0.23,0.24,0.03,0.08
    Italy_Lombardy,21.50,22.45,6.34,2.73,20.71,6.38,16 .91,2.27,0.11,0.21,0.08,0.06,0.16,0.07,0.00
    Italy_Marche,15.34,17.26,5.97,2.22,19.56,11.73,22. 54,4.32,0.21,0.10,0.00,0.37,0.10,0.27,0.07
    Italy_Tuscany,17.25,20.05,6.52,2.79,20.41,9.07,19. 20,3.54,0.57,0.25,0.02,0.06,0.14,0.08,0.02
    Italy_Veneto,21.07,21.37,8.50,5.45,18.65,7.15,14.6 9,2.42,0.14,0.18,0.05,0.08,0.15,0.09,0.00


    Source included (Salento):
    Italia_Val_d_Aosta,25.41,24.37,9.11,2.14,18.18,5.1 8,12.89,1.82,0,0.14,0.26,0.05,0.23,0.14,0.03
    Italia_Piemonte,19.28,23.71,7.82,4.67,19.93,6.66,1 4.21,2.82,0.6,0.01,0.1,0.09,0.15,0.01,0.17
    Italia_Ticino,22.8,23.57,6.92,5.78,20.65,4.11,13.1 5,2.55,0,0,0,0.21,0.02,0.19,0
    Italia_Insubria,20.25,23.17,6.95,2.68,21.05,6.51,1 6.43,2.23,0.02,0.19,0.04,0.04,0.11,0.15,0.03
    Italia_Lombardia,19.84,22.41,6.98,3.53,20.32,7.22, 15.92,2.73,0.34,0.2,0.12,0,0.22,0.03,0.02
    Italia_Orobia,18.64,23.16,7.08,3.13,21.11,6.94,16. 78,2.39,0.13,0.11,0.12,0.06,0.12,0.15,0
    Italia_Bergamo,17.2,24.91,6.3,3.61,21.1,7.11,16.52 ,2.7,0.08,0.11,0.04,0,0.16,0.12,0
    Italia_Brescia,18.29,23.54,6.24,3.38,21.57,6.58,17 .99,1.88,0.13,0,0.15,0.13,0.01,0.05,0
    Italia_Trentino,21.17,21.45,9.97,5.67,19.19,5.71,1 4.14,1.6,0,0.08,0.05,0.34,0.38,0.19,0
    Italia_Veneto,18.38,22.48,9.33,4.48,19.47,8.18,14. 8,1.87,0.13,0.19,0.38,0.2,0.03,0,0.02
    Italia_Friuli,18.28,20.89,9.71,6.3,17.72,7.73,15.6 1,2.73,0.27,0.23,0,0.34,0.09,0.03,0
    Italia_Liguria,18.89,20.85,6.57,3.3,19.99,8.12,18. 12,3.21,0.3,0.11,0.05,0.14,0.2,0.04,0.05
    Italia_Emilia_Est,19.61,17.93,6.98,2.85,20.51,7.47 ,19.69,3.92,0.1,0.31,0.01,0,0.36,0.16,0.03
    Italia_Emilia,17.09,22.09,6.51,2.76,20.45,7.88,19. 25,2.66,0.12,0.23,0,0.25,0.56,0.09,0.01
    Italia_Romagna,15.39,19.53,6.06,2.76,20.02,11.42,2 0.81,3.53,0,0.27,0,0.08,0.03,0.06,0
    Italia_Ager_Gallicus,14.31,17.3,6.24,2.66,20.71,11 .7,22.42,3.15,0.29,0.21,0,0.49,0.17,0.32,0
    Italia_Toscana,16.08,19.73,7.22,3.37,20.24,9.46,19 .64,3.33,0.43,0.14,0,0.03,0.08,0.1,0.06
    Italia_Marche,14.58,16.59,6.1,1.66,18.6,12.77,24.2 2,5.27,0.08,0.07,0.02,0.27,0.12,0.13,0.15
    Italia_Umbria,11.81,20.9,4.8,3.84,18.93,11.3,23.12 ,4.06,0.26,0.25,0,0,0.61,0.08,0
    Italia_Lazio,15.38,17.54,5.91,2.24,19.39,11.2,23.6 5,3.75,0.22,0.13,0.08,0.31,0.1,0.14,0.02
    FR_Italia_Corsica,15.68,20.17,4.72,2.02,22.97,7.39 ,22.33,3.9,0.04,0,0.12,0.08,0.41,0.1,0
    Italia_Abruzzo,12.63,15.65,6,2.53,17.25,13.12,26.5 5,5.01,0.11,0.11,0.24,0.12,0.27,0.35,0
    Italia_Campania,10.22,15.97,5.69,1.76,17.24,14.18, 27.95,5.58,0.36,0.18,0.01,0.1,0.08,0.44,0.07
    Italia_Molise,12.64,15.55,4.9,2.66,19.12,13.88,26. 57,4.89,0.12,0.17,0.12,0.21,0.07,0.16,0.03
    Italia_Basilicata,12.9,13.78,5.31,2.62,17.24,14.57 ,26.56,5.49,0.2,0.05,0,0,0.32,0.75,0.16
    Italia_Salento,10.2,15.75,4.62,2.93,18.01,14.06,29 .54,4.33,0,0,0,0.09,0.22,0.16,0
    Italia_Puglia,11.44,13.61,6.71,2.69,17.81,15.01,26 .47,5.1,0.18,0.02,0.01,0.16,0.32,0.3,0.09
    Italia_Calabria,7.3,14.31,5.07,0.88,17.24,16.23,30 .57,6.58,0.11,0.33,0,0.03,0.33,0.72,0.19
    Italia_Sicilia,9.54,14.62,4.97,1.31,18.21,15.22,28 ,5.32,0.08,0.38,0.31,0.17,0.23,1.28,0.48
    MA_Malta,6.412,15.962,4.828,1.31,18.664,13.406,29. 816,5.644,0,0.51,0.108,0,0.286,1.724,1.322
    Italia_Sardegna,8.1,21.38,1.97,0,43.44,1.07,19.54, 3.13,0,0.11,0,0,0.15,0.43,0.04

    The results was a bit better for me doing what I did above:



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    Here is the latest with the previous, I've composed from Antonio et al 2019 for Dodecad K12b:

    MA_Villa_Magna_R57,6.89,0,2.97,0.58,27.50,15.59,0, 0,0.58,0,34.62,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R58,5.26,0,1.27,0,28.14,15.43,0,0,1 2.83,0,35.80,0.05
    MA_Villa_Magna_R59,4.24,0,2.25,0.19,28.74,15.80,0. 31,0,12.53,0.66,34.39,0.88
    MA_Villa_Magna_R60,6.75,0.68,3.35,0,27.36,18.94,0, 1.54,11.04,0,30.34,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R65,7.61,0,2.22,0.30,28.15,13.40,0, 0,12.74,0,35.20,0.38
    MA_Villa_Magna_R1290,6.30,0,1.09,0.34,30.16,15.96, 0.27,0,12.04,0.09,32.81,0.93
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970,9.25,0,5.12,0.53,29. 32,18.41,0,0,7.11,0,30.25,0.01
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973,8.17,0.16,2.94,0,28. 76,15.28,0,0,10.56,0.15,33.57,0.40
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969,6.45,0.25,0.99,0,30. 40,17.81,0.65,1.10,11.67,0,30.67,0
    MA_Cancelleria_R1283,4.58,0,1.73,0,34.27,18.15,0,0 .08,11.02,0,29.41,0.75
    MA_Cancelleria_R1219,5.41,1.10,0.62,0,33.71,41.27, 0.26,1.03,1.96,0,14.64,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121,7.68,0,2.81,0, 29.21,18.18,0,0.90,11.76,0,29.47,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118,7.28,0.85,1.85 ,0,34.72,14.81,0,0,11.95,0,28.29,0.24
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R30,7.67,0,4.49,0.47,27.43,8 .56,0.25,1.38,11.74,0.86,37.00,0.24
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R32,5.90,0,7.07,0.12,29.06,1 2.90,1.05,1.03,7.57,0,35.31,0
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107,3.12,0,2.59,0,30.01,16.90,1.7 2,0,13.16,0,32.50,0
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R110,4.57,1.19,2.38,0.76,41.91,24. 74,0.07,0,4.24,0,18.96,0.17
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R108,5.92,0,1.71,1.18,35.43,34.64, 0,0,5.06,0,16.06,0
    LA_Celio_R36,7.23,0,3.17,0,32.85,20.10,0,0.35,9.77 ,0,26.50,0.02
    LA_Celio_R35,5.62,0,4.55,0.11,28.56,13.42,1.72,0.5 9,12.58,0,32.74,0.11
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549,9.97,0,3.98,0.04,27.49 ,20.49,0,0.96,10.94,0.05,26.09,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548,10.45,0,1.98,0,23.44,1 0.87,0,0.17,13.89,0,39.20,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1551,14.46,0,0.14,0,10.32,4 .49,0,0.80,14.76,0,54.71,0.33
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R131,7.30,0.24,0 .94,0.57,31.63,13.18,0.27,0,11.79,0,33.23,0.84
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R116,5.91,0.10,1 .46,0.63,44.11,34.08,0,0,3.33,0,10.38,0
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R114,8.09,0,1.77 ,0,24.05,13.69,0,0,14.58,0,37.27,0.55
    Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R37,2.14,1.00,2.70 ,0,50.70,31.46,0,0,4.24,0,7.65,0.12
    Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R38,11.97,0.24,2.9 4,0,17.99,1.99,0.16,0.30,18.03,0,46.26,0.13
    Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836,8.69,0,0.99,0,30.9 5,15.55,0,0,10.40,0,33.42,0
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R132,1.95,0,17.82,1.6 8,24.91,4.20,0,6.73,16.66,0.14,24.20,1.71
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R134,8.38,0,5.00,0.32 ,22.37,7.35,0,1.16,15.45,0,39.61,0
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R136,8.83,0.08,3.88,0 ,26.08,13.09,0.38,0,12.75,0,34.91,0
    Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1543,8.61,0,6 .43,0,21.01,9.18,0.27,0.24,15.01,0.04,39.07,0.15
    Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1545,7.66,0,1 .16,0.13,25.08,8.12,1.02,0.68,15.23,0,40.91,0.01
    IA_Latin_Ardea_R850,7.30,0,4.52,1.08,21.26,10.54,0 ,0.43,14.77,0,40.10,0
    IA_Latin_Ardea_R851,1.59,0,1.39,0,49.28,24.97,0,0. 14,1.93,0,20.26,0.45
    IA_Latin_Palestrina_Colombella_R435,4.84,0.64,0.65 ,0,47.12,28.54,0.15,0,4.13,0,13.40,0.53
    IA_Latin_Palestrina_Selicata_R437,6.45,0,3.03,0,33 .19,11.94,0,0,11.63,0,33.74,0.02
    IA_Civitavecchia_R475,0,0,13.01,0,38.12,12.14,0.37 ,1.98,11.26,0,22.70,0.42
    IA_Civitavecchia_R474,7.18,0.17,2.38,0,39.08,25.74 ,0,0,5.98,0,18.84,0.66
    IA_Civitavecchia_R473,1.01,0,0.68,0.15,47.26,22.79 ,0,0.21,7.39,0.21,20.17,0.34
    IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015,1.56,0.19,2.85,0,47 .15,21.66,0,0,5.46,0,20.85,0
    IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1,5.02,1.78,1.33, 0,35.08,26.46,0,0,5.43,0,24.50,0.40
    IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016,3.86,0.98,1.53,0.19,47.2 3,20.37,1.43,0,3.31,0,21.10,0
    IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021,2.11,0,1.96,0.60,47.70,24. 04,0,0,1.33,0,22.26,0
    N_Grotta_Continenza_R2,0,0,3.98,0,54.75,0,0,0,11.9 0,0,29.37,0
    N_Grotta_Continenza_R8,0,0,2.83,0,53.23,0,0,0,13.8 2,0.25,29.87,0
    N_Grotta_Continenza_R9,0,0,3.27,0,50.85,0,0,0,13.2 5,0,32.63,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R120,5.11,0.47,2.10 ,0,33.79,17.98,0,1.11,11.27,0,27.96,0.21
    MA_Cancelleria_R1224,8.22,0,0.30,0,39.76,31.51,1.2 3,0.65,3.29,0,14.75,0.29
    MA_Cancelleria_R1285,3.81,0,0.85,0,37.37,17.26,1.4 7,0.56,9.42,0.11,28.92,0.22
    MA_Villa_Magna_R54,8.69,0,2.10,0.60,27.47,15.83,0. 33,0.49,11.57,0.23,32.47,0.23
    MA_Villa_Magna_R56,7.11,0.35,3.14,0,30.08,13.27,0, 1.09,11.58,1.09,33.32,0.08
    MA_Villa_Magna_R63,2.65,0,4.67,0.48,45.40,26.94,0. 90,0.04,4.71,0.50,13.32,0.39
    MA_Villa_Magna_R64,9.93,1.36,1.96,0,27.12,14.16,0, 0.70,11.69,0,32.77,0.30
    Imperial_ANAS_R66,7.41,0,0,0.88,25.05,8.08,0,0,17. 27,0,40.91,0.88
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R130,9.50,0,4.35,0,24 .11,2.09,0.93,0,17.15,0,41.34,0.53
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R133,7.57,0.60,2.99,0 .90,26.10,7.43,0.30,0,14.24,0,39.87,0
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R137,9.38,0,2.53,0.51 ,28.21,9.34,0,0.62,11.96,0,37.44,0
    N_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_R17,0,0,4.12,0,50.89,3.1 8,0,0,13.16,0,28.66,0
    M_Grotta_Continenza_R11,0,0,0,0.61,34.46,64.51,0,0 ,0,0,0,0.42
    Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1544,9.52,0.5 6,2.18,0,26.06,13.98,0,0,12.91,0,34.79,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1550,12.14,0,7.32,0.46,14.8 9,1.07,0,1.17,23.92,0.34,38.67,0
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R31,5.84,0.94,0.78,0,36.70,4 5.57,0,0,1.73,0,8.17,0.27
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33,3.17,0,0.94,0.28,36.83,2 6.77,0.81,0.78,6.72,0.78,23.70,0
    Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R40,7.71,0.52,1.07 ,0,27.37,5.97,0.18,0,15.62,0,40.97,0.59
    Imperial_Palestrina_R436,9.60,0,1.82,0.43,26.49,13 .28,0.49,0,12.29,0,35.59,0
    MA_Cancelleria_R1286,7.61,0,0,0,35.10,45.43,0,0.12 ,2.10,1.05,8.35,0.24
    MA_Cancelleria_R1220,8.30,0,1.95,0,35.89,34.65,0.2 2,0,4.39,0.47,13.32,0.82
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R111,6.64,0,0.78 ,0,36.44,17.99,0,0,9.81,0,28.34,0
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R113,8.45,0,3.11 ,0,34.12,13.68,0,0,8.74,0,31.90,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R122,7.08,0,4.18,0, 30.04,13.41,0,1.27,10.43,0.03,33.34,0.22
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R117,10.46,0,2.59,0 ,30.04,12.20,0,1.12,11.07,0,32.50,0.03
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R106,10.12,0,1.03,0,32.93,38.92,1. 43,0,4.07,0,11.22,0.28
    Imperial_Casale_del_Dolce_R125,8.93,0,2.88,0,27.65 ,10.15,0,0,10.93,0,39.18,0.28
    Imperial_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis_R80,3.36,0,11.53 ,0,27.44,7.57,0,3.32,16.77,0.53,28.55,0.92
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R109,4.36,0,0.84,0,41.26,29.23,0,0 .72,8.18,0.42,15.00,0
    Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R835,8.06,0.47,2.84,1.5 8,30.30,16.15,0,0,10.89,0,29.71,0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Here is the latest with the previous, I've composed from Antonio et al 2019 for Dodecad K12b:

    MA_Villa_Magna_R57,6.89,0,2.97,0.58,27.50,15.59,0, 0,0.58,0,34.62,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R58,5.26,0,1.27,0,28.14,15.43,0,0,1 2.83,0,35.80,0.05
    MA_Villa_Magna_R59,4.24,0,2.25,0.19,28.74,15.80,0. 31,0,12.53,0.66,34.39,0.88
    MA_Villa_Magna_R60,6.75,0.68,3.35,0,27.36,18.94,0, 1.54,11.04,0,30.34,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R65,7.61,0,2.22,0.30,28.15,13.40,0, 0,12.74,0,35.20,0.38
    MA_Villa_Magna_R1290,6.30,0,1.09,0.34,30.16,15.96, 0.27,0,12.04,0.09,32.81,0.93
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970,9.25,0,5.12,0.53,29. 32,18.41,0,0,7.11,0,30.25,0.01
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973,8.17,0.16,2.94,0,28. 76,15.28,0,0,10.56,0.15,33.57,0.40
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969,6.45,0.25,0.99,0,30. 40,17.81,0.65,1.10,11.67,0,30.67,0
    MA_Cancelleria_R1283,4.58,0,1.73,0,34.27,18.15,0,0 .08,11.02,0,29.41,0.75
    MA_Cancelleria_R1219,5.41,1.10,0.62,0,33.71,41.27, 0.26,1.03,1.96,0,14.64,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121,7.68,0,2.81,0, 29.21,18.18,0,0.90,11.76,0,29.47,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118,7.28,0.85,1.85 ,0,34.72,14.81,0,0,11.95,0,28.29,0.24
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R30,7.67,0,4.49,0.47,27.43,8 .56,0.25,1.38,11.74,0.86,37.00,0.24
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R32,5.90,0,7.07,0.12,29.06,1 2.90,1.05,1.03,7.57,0,35.31,0
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107,3.12,0,2.59,0,30.01,16.90,1.7 2,0,13.16,0,32.50,0
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R110,4.57,1.19,2.38,0.76,41.91,24. 74,0.07,0,4.24,0,18.96,0.17
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R108,5.92,0,1.71,1.18,35.43,34.64, 0,0,5.06,0,16.06,0
    LA_Celio_R36,7.23,0,3.17,0,32.85,20.10,0,0.35,9.77 ,0,26.50,0.02
    LA_Celio_R35,5.62,0,4.55,0.11,28.56,13.42,1.72,0.5 9,12.58,0,32.74,0.11
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549,9.97,0,3.98,0.04,27.49 ,20.49,0,0.96,10.94,0.05,26.09,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548,10.45,0,1.98,0,23.44,1 0.87,0,0.17,13.89,0,39.20,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1551,14.46,0,0.14,0,10.32,4 .49,0,0.80,14.76,0,54.71,0.33
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R131,7.30,0.24,0 .94,0.57,31.63,13.18,0.27,0,11.79,0,33.23,0.84
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R116,5.91,0.10,1 .46,0.63,44.11,34.08,0,0,3.33,0,10.38,0
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R114,8.09,0,1.77 ,0,24.05,13.69,0,0,14.58,0,37.27,0.55
    Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R37,2.14,1.00,2.70 ,0,50.70,31.46,0,0,4.24,0,7.65,0.12
    Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R38,11.97,0.24,2.9 4,0,17.99,1.99,0.16,0.30,18.03,0,46.26,0.13
    Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836,8.69,0,0.99,0,30.9 5,15.55,0,0,10.40,0,33.42,0
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R132,1.95,0,17.82,1.6 8,24.91,4.20,0,6.73,16.66,0.14,24.20,1.71
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R134,8.38,0,5.00,0.32 ,22.37,7.35,0,1.16,15.45,0,39.61,0
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R136,8.83,0.08,3.88,0 ,26.08,13.09,0.38,0,12.75,0,34.91,0
    Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1543,8.61,0,6 .43,0,21.01,9.18,0.27,0.24,15.01,0.04,39.07,0.15
    Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1545,7.66,0,1 .16,0.13,25.08,8.12,1.02,0.68,15.23,0,40.91,0.01
    IA_Latin_Ardea_R850,7.30,0,4.52,1.08,21.26,10.54,0 ,0.43,14.77,0,40.10,0
    IA_Latin_Ardea_R851,1.59,0,1.39,0,49.28,24.97,0,0. 14,1.93,0,20.26,0.45
    IA_Latin_Palestrina_Colombella_R435,4.84,0.64,0.65 ,0,47.12,28.54,0.15,0,4.13,0,13.40,0.53
    IA_Latin_Palestrina_Selicata_R437,6.45,0,3.03,0,33 .19,11.94,0,0,11.63,0,33.74,0.02
    IA_Civitavecchia_R475,0,0,13.01,0,38.12,12.14,0.37 ,1.98,11.26,0,22.70,0.42
    IA_Civitavecchia_R474,7.18,0.17,2.38,0,39.08,25.74 ,0,0,5.98,0,18.84,0.66
    IA_Civitavecchia_R473,1.01,0,0.68,0.15,47.26,22.79 ,0,0.21,7.39,0.21,20.17,0.34
    IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015,1.56,0.19,2.85,0,47 .15,21.66,0,0,5.46,0,20.85,0
    IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1,5.02,1.78,1.33, 0,35.08,26.46,0,0,5.43,0,24.50,0.40
    IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016,3.86,0.98,1.53,0.19,47.2 3,20.37,1.43,0,3.31,0,21.10,0
    IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021,2.11,0,1.96,0.60,47.70,24. 04,0,0,1.33,0,22.26,0
    N_Grotta_Continenza_R2,0,0,3.98,0,54.75,0,0,0,11.9 0,0,29.37,0
    N_Grotta_Continenza_R8,0,0,2.83,0,53.23,0,0,0,13.8 2,0.25,29.87,0
    N_Grotta_Continenza_R9,0,0,3.27,0,50.85,0,0,0,13.2 5,0,32.63,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R120,5.11,0.47,2.10 ,0,33.79,17.98,0,1.11,11.27,0,27.96,0.21
    MA_Cancelleria_R1224,8.22,0,0.30,0,39.76,31.51,1.2 3,0.65,3.29,0,14.75,0.29
    MA_Cancelleria_R1285,3.81,0,0.85,0,37.37,17.26,1.4 7,0.56,9.42,0.11,28.92,0.22
    MA_Villa_Magna_R54,8.69,0,2.10,0.60,27.47,15.83,0. 33,0.49,11.57,0.23,32.47,0.23
    MA_Villa_Magna_R56,7.11,0.35,3.14,0,30.08,13.27,0, 1.09,11.58,1.09,33.32,0.08
    MA_Villa_Magna_R63,2.65,0,4.67,0.48,45.40,26.94,0. 90,0.04,4.71,0.50,13.32,0.39
    MA_Villa_Magna_R64,9.93,1.36,1.96,0,27.12,14.16,0, 0.70,11.69,0,32.77,0.30
    Imperial_ANAS_R66,7.41,0,0,0.88,25.05,8.08,0,0,17. 27,0,40.91,0.88
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R130,9.50,0,4.35,0,24 .11,2.09,0.93,0,17.15,0,41.34,0.53
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R133,7.57,0.60,2.99,0 .90,26.10,7.43,0.30,0,14.24,0,39.87,0
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R137,9.38,0,2.53,0.51 ,28.21,9.34,0,0.62,11.96,0,37.44,0
    N_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_R17,0,0,4.12,0,50.89,3.1 8,0,0,13.16,0,28.66,0
    M_Grotta_Continenza_R11,0,0,0,0.61,34.46,64.51,0,0 ,0,0,0,0.42
    Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1544,9.52,0.5 6,2.18,0,26.06,13.98,0,0,12.91,0,34.79,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1550,12.14,0,7.32,0.46,14.8 9,1.07,0,1.17,23.92,0.34,38.67,0
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R31,5.84,0.94,0.78,0,36.70,4 5.57,0,0,1.73,0,8.17,0.27
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33,3.17,0,0.94,0.28,36.83,2 6.77,0.81,0.78,6.72,0.78,23.70,0
    Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R40,7.71,0.52,1.07 ,0,27.37,5.97,0.18,0,15.62,0,40.97,0.59
    Imperial_Palestrina_R436,9.60,0,1.82,0.43,26.49,13 .28,0.49,0,12.29,0,35.59,0
    MA_Cancelleria_R1286,7.61,0,0,0,35.10,45.43,0,0.12 ,2.10,1.05,8.35,0.24
    MA_Cancelleria_R1220,8.30,0,1.95,0,35.89,34.65,0.2 2,0,4.39,0.47,13.32,0.82
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R111,6.64,0,0.78 ,0,36.44,17.99,0,0,9.81,0,28.34,0
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R113,8.45,0,3.11 ,0,34.12,13.68,0,0,8.74,0,31.90,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R122,7.08,0,4.18,0, 30.04,13.41,0,1.27,10.43,0.03,33.34,0.22
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R117,10.46,0,2.59,0 ,30.04,12.20,0,1.12,11.07,0,32.50,0.03
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R106,10.12,0,1.03,0,32.93,38.92,1. 43,0,4.07,0,11.22,0.28
    Imperial_Casale_del_Dolce_R125,8.93,0,2.88,0,27.65 ,10.15,0,0,10.93,0,39.18,0.28
    Imperial_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis_R80,3.36,0,11.53 ,0,27.44,7.57,0,3.32,16.77,0.53,28.55,0.92
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R109,4.36,0,0.84,0,41.26,29.23,0,0 .72,8.18,0.42,15.00,0
    Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R835,8.06,0.47,2.84,1.5 8,30.30,16.15,0,0,10.89,0,29.71,0
    What a lot of work! :)

    Is this all of them, Jovialis? Everything you've published so far plus new ones?

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    after many of these tests in K12, K13 and K15.......the following come out as my main ancient samples ( not in any order )

    SCY305
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    What a lot of work! :)
    Is this all of them, Jovialis? Everything you've published so far plus new ones?
    Thanks! :)

    Yep, There's a bunch of new ones with the previous ones I posted. Only 47 left to go.

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    To develop Vahaduo K12b ancient

    Scythians and Illyrians,
    IllyrianDalmatian_I3313,4.70,1.08,1.24,0.24,39.81, 24.04,0.00,0.00,3.82,0.00,24.51,0.57
    ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499,6.96,0.00,1.33, 0.32,36.11,22.41,0.00,0.00,7.21,0.00,24.66,1.00
    IllyrianDalmatian_I4331,4.14,0.00,0.60,0.00,38.27, 27.29,0.00,0.00,5.58,0.00,23.57,0.56
    IllyrianDalmatian_I4332,3.68,0.00,0.54,1.35,37.10, 27.03,0.00,0.00,5.65,0.00,23.65,0.99
    ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192,6.41,2.29,1.77,0.00 ,32.81,20.30,0.00,0.00,8.26,0.00,27.80,0.38
    ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197,3.92,0.66,0.72,0.00 ,34.44,21.60,0.00,0.49,5.41,1.91,30.02,0.84
    ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy305,7.88,1.24,1.35,0.00 ,25.96,26.16,0.00,0.00,5.87,2.50,29.04,0.00

    Sources:

    Illyrians
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB22652


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    Vahaduo Dodecad K12b, all ancient samples, including CL, SZ, FN_2, SCY, Illyrians. Consolidated data until now, January 6, 2019 (Jovialis + Duarte)

    MA_Villa_Magna_R57,6.89,0,2.97,0.58,27.50,15.59,0, 0,0.58,0,34.62,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R58,5.26,0,1.27,0,28.14,15.43,0,0,1 2.83,0,35.80,0.05
    MA_Villa_Magna_R59,4.24,0,2.25,0.19,28.74,15.80,0. 31,0,12.53,0.66,34.39,0.88
    MA_Villa_Magna_R60,6.75,0.68,3.35,0,27.36,18.94,0, 1.54,11.04,0,30.34,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R65,7.61,0,2.22,0.30,28.15,13.40,0, 0,12.74,0,35.20,0.38
    MA_Villa_Magna_R1290,6.30,0,1.09,0.34,30.16,15.96, 0.27,0,12.04,0.09,32.81,0.93
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970,9.25,0,5.12,0.53,29. 32,18.41,0,0,7.11,0,30.25,0.01
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973,8.17,0.16,2.94,0,28. 76,15.28,0,0,10.56,0.15,33.57,0.40
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969,6.45,0.25,0.99,0,30. 40,17.81,0.65,1.10,11.67,0,30.67,0
    MA_Cancelleria_R1283,4.58,0,1.73,0,34.27,18.15,0,0 .08,11.02,0,29.41,0.75
    MA_Cancelleria_R1219,5.41,1.10,0.62,0,33.71,41.27, 0.26,1.03,1.96,0,14.64,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121,7.68,0,2.81,0, 29.21,18.18,0,0.90,11.76,0,29.47,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118,7.28,0.85,1.85 ,0,34.72,14.81,0,0,11.95,0,28.29,0.24
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R30,7.67,0,4.49,0.47,27.43,8 .56,0.25,1.38,11.74,0.86,37.00,0.24
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R32,5.90,0,7.07,0.12,29.06,1 2.90,1.05,1.03,7.57,0,35.31,0
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107,3.12,0,2.59,0,30.01,16.90,1.7 2,0,13.16,0,32.50,0
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R110,4.57,1.19,2.38,0.76,41.91,24. 74,0.07,0,4.24,0,18.96,0.17
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R108,5.92,0,1.71,1.18,35.43,34.64, 0,0,5.06,0,16.06,0
    LA_Celio_R36,7.23,0,3.17,0,32.85,20.10,0,0.35,9.77 ,0,26.50,0.02
    LA_Celio_R35,5.62,0,4.55,0.11,28.56,13.42,1.72,0.5 9,12.58,0,32.74,0.11
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549,9.97,0,3.98,0.04,27.49 ,20.49,0,0.96,10.94,0.05,26.09,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548,10.45,0,1.98,0,23.44,1 0.87,0,0.17,13.89,0,39.20,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1551,14.46,0,0.14,0,10.32,4 .49,0,0.80,14.76,0,54.71,0.33
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R131,7.30,0.24,0 .94,0.57,31.63,13.18,0.27,0,11.79,0,33.23,0.84
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R116,5.91,0.10,1 .46,0.63,44.11,34.08,0,0,3.33,0,10.38,0
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R114,8.09,0,1.77 ,0,24.05,13.69,0,0,14.58,0,37.27,0.55
    Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R37,2.14,1.00,2.70 ,0,50.70,31.46,0,0,4.24,0,7.65,0.12
    Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R38,11.97,0.24,2.9 4,0,17.99,1.99,0.16,0.30,18.03,0,46.26,0.13
    Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836,8.69,0,0.99,0,30.9 5,15.55,0,0,10.40,0,33.42,0
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R132,1.95,0,17.82,1.6 8,24.91,4.20,0,6.73,16.66,0.14,24.20,1.71
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R134,8.38,0,5.00,0.32 ,22.37,7.35,0,1.16,15.45,0,39.61,0
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R136,8.83,0.08,3.88,0 ,26.08,13.09,0.38,0,12.75,0,34.91,0
    Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1543,8.61,0,6 .43,0,21.01,9.18,0.27,0.24,15.01,0.04,39.07,0.15
    Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1545,7.66,0,1 .16,0.13,25.08,8.12,1.02,0.68,15.23,0,40.91,0.01
    IA_Latin_Ardea_R850,7.30,0,4.52,1.08,21.26,10.54,0 ,0.43,14.77,0,40.10,0
    IA_Latin_Ardea_R851,1.59,0,1.39,0,49.28,24.97,0,0. 14,1.93,0,20.26,0.45
    IA_Latin_Palestrina_Colombella_R435,4.84,0.64,0.65 ,0,47.12,28.54,0.15,0,4.13,0,13.40,0.53
    IA_Latin_Palestrina_Selicata_R437,6.45,0,3.03,0,33 .19,11.94,0,0,11.63,0,33.74,0.02
    IA_Civitavecchia_R475,0,0,13.01,0,38.12,12.14,0.37 ,1.98,11.26,0,22.70,0.42
    IA_Civitavecchia_R474,7.18,0.17,2.38,0,39.08,25.74 ,0,0,5.98,0,18.84,0.66
    IA_Civitavecchia_R473,1.01,0,0.68,0.15,47.26,22.79 ,0,0.21,7.39,0.21,20.17,0.34
    IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015,1.56,0.19,2.85,0,47 .15,21.66,0,0,5.46,0,20.85,0
    IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1,5.02,1.78,1.33, 0,35.08,26.46,0,0,5.43,0,24.50,0.40
    IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016,3.86,0.98,1.53,0.19,47.2 3,20.37,1.43,0,3.31,0,21.10,0
    IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021,2.11,0,1.96,0.60,47.70,24. 04,0,0,1.33,0,22.26,0
    N_Grotta_Continenza_R2,0,0,3.98,0,54.75,0,0,0,11.9 0,0,29.37,0
    N_Grotta_Continenza_R8,0,0,2.83,0,53.23,0,0,0,13.8 2,0.25,29.87,0
    N_Grotta_Continenza_R9,0,0,3.27,0,50.85,0,0,0,13.2 5,0,32.63,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R120,5.11,0.47,2.10 ,0,33.79,17.98,0,1.11,11.27,0,27.96,0.21
    MA_Cancelleria_R1224,8.22,0,0.30,0,39.76,31.51,1.2 3,0.65,3.29,0,14.75,0.29
    MA_Cancelleria_R1285,3.81,0,0.85,0,37.37,17.26,1.4 7,0.56,9.42,0.11,28.92,0.22
    MA_Villa_Magna_R54,8.69,0,2.10,0.60,27.47,15.83,0. 33,0.49,11.57,0.23,32.47,0.23
    MA_Villa_Magna_R56,7.11,0.35,3.14,0,30.08,13.27,0, 1.09,11.58,1.09,33.32,0.08
    MA_Villa_Magna_R63,2.65,0,4.67,0.48,45.40,26.94,0. 90,0.04,4.71,0.50,13.32,0.39
    MA_Villa_Magna_R64,9.93,1.36,1.96,0,27.12,14.16,0, 0.70,11.69,0,32.77,0.30
    Imperial_ANAS_R66,7.41,0,0,0.88,25.05,8.08,0,0,17. 27,0,40.91,0.88
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R130,9.50,0,4.35,0,24 .11,2.09,0.93,0,17.15,0,41.34,0.53
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R133,7.57,0.60,2.99,0 .90,26.10,7.43,0.30,0,14.24,0,39.87,0
    Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R137,9.38,0,2.53,0.51 ,28.21,9.34,0,0.62,11.96,0,37.44,0
    N_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_R17,0,0,4.12,0,50.89,3.1 8,0,0,13.16,0,28.66,0
    M_Grotta_Continenza_R11,0,0,0,0.61,34.46,64.51,0,0 ,0,0,0,0.42
    Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1544,9.52,0.5 6,2.18,0,26.06,13.98,0,0,12.91,0,34.79,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1550,12.14,0,7.32,0.46,14.8 9,1.07,0,1.17,23.92,0.34,38.67,0
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R31,5.84,0.94,0.78,0,36.70,4 5.57,0,0,1.73,0,8.17,0.27
    LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33,3.17,0,0.94,0.28,36.83,2 6.77,0.81,0.78,6.72,0.78,23.70,0
    Imperial_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_R40,7.71,0.52,1.07 ,0,27.37,5.97,0.18,0,15.62,0,40.97,0.59
    Imperial_Palestrina_R436,9.60,0,1.82,0.43,26.49,13 .28,0.49,0,12.29,0,35.59,0
    MA_Cancelleria_R1286,7.61,0,0,0,35.10,45.43,0,0.12 ,2.10,1.05,8.35,0.24
    MA_Cancelleria_R1220,8.30,0,1.95,0,35.89,34.65,0.2 2,0,4.39,0.47,13.32,0.82
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R111,6.64,0,0.78 ,0,36.44,17.99,0,0,9.81,0,28.34,0
    Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R113,8.45,0,3.11 ,0,34.12,13.68,0,0,8.74,0,31.90,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R122,7.08,0,4.18,0, 30.04,13.41,0,1.27,10.43,0.03,33.34,0.22
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R117,10.46,0,2.59,0 ,30.04,12.20,0,1.12,11.07,0,32.50,0.03
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R106,10.12,0,1.03,0,32.93,38.92,1. 43,0,4.07,0,11.22,0.28
    Imperial_Casale_del_Dolce_R125,8.93,0,2.88,0,27.65 ,10.15,0,0,10.93,0,39.18,0.28
    Imperial_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis_R80,3.36,0,11.53 ,0,27.44,7.57,0,3.32,16.77,0.53,28.55,0.92
    LA_Crypta_Balbi_R109,4.36,0,0.84,0,41.26,29.23,0,0 .72,8.18,0.42,15.00,0
    Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R835,8.06,0.47,2.84,1.5 8,30.30,16.15,0,0,10.89,0,29.71,0
    Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R61,1.37,0.04,3.55 ,0.00,35.80,32.50,1.16,0.00,4.96,0.89,19.29,0.44
    Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R55,6.32,0.00,1.47 ,0.24,36.06,27.04,0.10,0.00,7.59,0.00,21.04,0.14
    Late_Roman_Mix_Crypta_Balbi_R105,6.44,0.32,4.78,0. 53,36.54,27.56,0.00,0.00,5.54,0.00,17.97,0.32
    LBA_ElSotillo_Alava_I2469,9.22,0.00,1.86,0.32,52.6 1,20.57,1.16,0.00,0.87,0.00,13.40,0.00
    BronzeAgeNorthernSpain_I2472,1.14,0.00,3.50,1.18,5 6.65,26.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,11.52,0.00
    CeltiberianMixTribeNorthernSpain_I3238,2.44,0.00,3 .07,0.00,44.99,36.67,0.52,0.00,0.17,0.60,10.96,0.5 9
    Pre-RomanGirona_I3324,5.56,1.29,0.00,0.00,52.03,29.28, 0.00,0.00,3.67,0.32,7.07,0.77
    LateRomanIberiaGranada_I3576,3.39,1.20,10.98,0.00, 37.27,15.84,0.00,1.46,9.98,0.03,17.96,1.88
    LateRomanIberiaGranada_I3581,2.25,0.00,9.46,0.99,3 6.90,18.80,0.00,0.42,12.18,0.62,16.63,1.75
    EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585,4.00,0.76,7.98,0.00,4 0.89,21.30,1.15,2.10,7.58,0.29,13.67,0.26
    EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981,5.23,0.02,8.00,0. 74,43.54,17.45,0.00,1.85,6.11,0.00,15.69,1.37
    RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I4055,6.34,0.29,11.67,0.00, 35.87,20.88,0.00,3.68,15.38,0.36,5.46,0.06
    MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425,4.46,0.00,11.07,1.63 ,34.23,17.00,0.00,2.36,7.37,0.00,17.40,4.48
    CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457,3.88,0.00,10.09,0. 00,37.97,18.30,0.00,2.07,8.05,0.00,16.16,3.50
    HispanoRomanMaghrebiCordobaCaliphate_I7497,1.70,0. 00,4.03,0.00,42.32,12.32,0.00,0.32,14.03,3.23,18.1 8,3.87
    IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498,1.57,1.18,7.25,0.00, 37.31,21.69,2.00,0.79,8.98,0.46,17.01,1.75
    VasconicTribe_I8209,6.77,0.00,1.74,0.00,48.23,30.3 2,0.21,0.60,0.79,0.17,11.18,0.00
    RomanEraGirona_I8339,2.27,0.00,0.00,0.22,49.12,31. 98,3.72,0.00,5.88,0.79,5.59,0.44
    RomanCarthagoMixIberia_I8475,4.30,0.33,5.35,0.00,3 9.62,19.72,1.18,0.14,7.35,0.00,22.00,0.00
    GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10851,7.04,0.00,0.00,0.00, 39.28,30.10,1.85,2.44,5.97,0.00,13.33,0.00
    GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852,7.32,0.00,3.77,0.00, 43.67,27.11,1.41,0.37,5.94,0.00,9.37,1.03
    GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853,3.61,0.00,6.44,0.00, 38.24,26.00,1.37,0.00,6.47,0.00,17.25,0.63
    GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866,4.02,0.48,8.95,0.00 ,39.73,28.49,0.11,2.53,6.47,0.00,6.62,2.62
    GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892,5.59,0.26,3.58,0.41, 44.49,24.42,0.33,1.20,5.21,0.00,14.35,0.16
    GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895,3.18,0.37,5.23,0.41, 43.22,25.89,0.00,0.60,6.19,0.00,14.57,0.33
    VisigothFrankishGirona_I12032,7.89,1.02,2.62,0.00, 37.25,38.02,0.00,0.20,0.00,0.00,12.74,0.26
    VisigothIberianGirona_I12034,4.09,0.00,0.00,1.22,4 9.32,29.61,0.69,0.00,1.50,0.86,12.33,0.38
    BronzeAgeSpainCogotas_I12208,1.39,0.00,5.31,0.43,5 4.53,22.97,1.16,0.00,3.96,0.94,8.35,0.95
    BronzeAgeSpainCogotas_I12209,0.00,0.00,4.43,1.66,5 5.40,27.36,0.00,0.00,3.50,0.00,7.08,0.56
    IlergetesOutlierCatalan_I12410,0.26,0.00,3.37,0.76 ,57.15,25.49,0.00,0.16,0.53,0.81,10.56,0.91
    PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514,2.62,1.23,7.21,0 .04,39.51,25.34,0.00,0.00,7.84,1.09,13.31,1.81
    SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515,4.18,0.00,8.23,0.1 8,37.93,21.03,0.00,0.00,9.03,1.04,17.24,1.15
    PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516,3.00,0.59,4.20,0 .41,43.15,22.89,0.00,2.18,4.70,0.00,18.05,0.81
    TartessianArchaicAndalusia_I12561,2.75,0.00,0.00,0 .00,64.04,17.25,6.88,0.00,5.47,0.00,3.61,0.00
    IronAgeCatalan_I12640,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,52.97,24 .35,0.00,0.00,5.65,0.00,15.41,1.61
    HispanoRomanTaifaofValencia_I12644,2.34,1.37,10.60 ,0.00,36.12,19.10,0.00,1.78,10.72,0.00,16.68,1.29
    HispanoRomanTaifaofValencia_I12647,2.44,0.70,9.01, 0.00,36.94,20.28,0.00,1.89,8.27,0.00,18.90,1.58
    MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649,9.43,0.96,4.90,0.00 ,43.04,19.67,0.00,0.81,7.33,0.00,13.86,0.00
    IlergetesTribeCatalan_I12878,0.45,0.28,5.90,0.00,5 7.80,28.10,0.55,0.00,1.02,0.00,5.91,0.00
    BronzeAgeNorthernSpain_VAD001,3.95,0.00,0.00,0.00, 56.95,26.02,1.54,0.00,3.09,0.00,7.87,0.59
    BAIberiaValdescusaLaRioja_VAD002,0.00,1.91,0.00,0. 91,61.64,25.41,0.00,0.00,3.70,0.87,5.56,0.00
    Roman_Soldier_FN_2,1.16,0.00,2.13,0.14,47.26,32.04 ,0.00,0.00,2.96,0.00,13.75,0.57
    CL23,6.00,1.15,3.48,0.00,36.14,24.04,0.16,0.59,7.0 4,0.00,21.33,0.07
    CL25,9.15,0.00,2.75,0.00,27.51,8.71,1.71,0.47,11.9 6,0.00,37.75,0.00
    CL30,9.65,0.29,3.29,0.16,24.88,7.36,0.00,0.00,15.5 9,0.00,38.78,0.00
    CL31,6.24,0.00,0.29,4.32,25.71,10.65,1.60,2.08,8.6 2,16.23,24.27,0.00
    CL47,4.77,0.00,0.73,0.48,36.62,34.27,0.00,0.00,5.2 5,0.00,17.40,0.48
    CL38,9.60,0.00,1.85,0.44,24.91,8.55,0.00,0.16,14.0 8,0.00,39.63,0.78
    CL36,6.48,0.00,0.90,0.00,34.87,22.28,0.00,0.47,7.9 6,0.90,25.47,0.68
    CL53,8.53,0.00,2.56,1.16,32.56,36.16,1.12,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,17.91,0.00
    CL57,7.93,0.64,1.36,0.00,33.48,33.88,0.00,0.00,4.8 6,0.00,17.12,0.73
    CL49,2.92,0.72,2.04,0.00,35.14,32.01,1.12,0.00,3.4 8,0.00,22.18,0.37
    CL63,8.17,0.00,2.12,0.16,33.38,37.08,0.00,0.00,2.3 8,0.00,16.59,0.12
    CL83,9.14,0.28,0.58,0.26,37.97,45.11,0.00,0.00,2.4 2,0.00,4.15,0.08
    CL84,6.57,0.50,0.00,0.00,38.31,47.28,0.00,0.00,2.1 6,0.00,5.18,0.00
    CL87,8.15,0.44,0.00,0.00,39.39,42.27,0.00,0.00,3.1 9,0.00,6.06,0.45
    CL92,8.70,2.44,1.56,0.00,36.85,47.01,0.00,0.41,0.0 0,0.00,3.03,0.00
    CL93,9.85,0.24,0.00,0.00,36.11,48.86,0.00,1.22,0.0 0,0.00,3.65,0.06
    CL94,5.52,0.00,3.55,0.97,38.92,30.19,0.81,0.00,3.3 7,0.00,16.69,0.00
    CL97,6.63,2.20,1.34,2.60,31.69,41.34,0.00,0.73,0.9 4,0.00,12.51,0.00
    CL110,8.94,2.27,0.00,0.00,25.75,14.78,0.00,4.00,8. 83,0.00,32.68,2.73
    CL102,6.01,0.09,0.00,0.00,37.13,35.21,0.00,0.00,5. 52,0.76,15.28,0.00
    CL145,9.92,0.00,0.00,0.00,35.06,49.04,0.52,0.75,0. 00,0.00,4.33,0.39
    CL151,10.25,0.00,0.53,0.00,34.86,50.10,1.09,0.35,0 .00,0.00,2.40,0.42
    CL121,9.68,0.00,4.39,0.00,30.76,14.90,0.00,0.00,9. 28,0.00,29.94,1.05
    CL146,8.32,0.08,0.30,0.00,34.97,50.00,0.80,1.15,0. 00,0.00,4.34,0.00
    SZ1,4.29,3.44,3.25,0.00,28.24,25.58,0.87,0.18,6.87 ,3.48,23.79,0.00
    SZ2,9.36,0.00,0.00,0.00,33.46,53.49,0.00,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,2.37,1.43
    SZ3,7.98,0.16,0.00,0.00,38.82,39.19,0.00,0.78,2.62 ,0.00,10.43,0.00
    SZ4,7.85,0.87,0.30,0.00,33.91,50.04,0.43,0.00,0.75 ,0.00,5.34,0.51
    SZ5,6.12,1.66,0.72,0.00,32.72,38.67,0.40,0.00,2.81 ,0.00,16.76,0.15
    SZ6,3.82,1.05,0.00,0.00,35.28,37.98,0.00,0.29,5.67 ,0.00,15.91,0.00
    SZ7,8.27,0.00,0.00,0.00,34.72,47.14,0.51,0.32,1.78 ,0.00,6.96,0.29
    SZ8,5.73,0.00,0.00,0.00,36.87,40.78,0.00,0.00,2.12 ,0.00,13.85,0.65
    SZ9,9.39,0.00,0.00,0.00,35.66,51.13,1.01,0.43,0.00 ,0.00,2.09,0.25
    SZ11,8.79,0.12,0.00,0.00,33.57,46.48,0.00,0.00,0.2 0,0.11,10.04,0.69
    SZ12,7.64,0.00,0.24,0.00,34.09,46.15,0.91,0.26,0.2 0,0.00,10.51,0.00
    SZ13,8.10,0.00,0.32,0.00,33.18,49.56,0.26,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,8.46,0.13
    SZ14,10.42,0.00,0.00,0.52,34.98,41.73,0.00,0.00,3. 23,0.00,8.38,0.74
    SZ15,9.16,1.46,0.00,0.53,34.40,45.48,0.81,0.00,0.8 8,0.00,6.81,0.47
    SZ16,10.65,0.98,0.13,0.00,35.89,50.69,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,1.51,0.16
    SZ18,6.58,0.00,2.05,0.00,33.05,35.87,0.00,0.00,4.5 3,1.11,16.74,0.07
    SZ19,1.57,0.00,1.51,0.00,36.36,14.95,0.00,0.00,10. 04,0.00,35.34,0.22
    SZ20,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.38,25.58,34.44,4.79,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,30.82,0.00
    SZ22,8.26,0.00,0.00,0.00,33.38,48.32,1.44,0.00,0.0 0,0.63,7.28,0.68
    SZ23,8.82,0.69,0.00,0.00,35.39,42.07,0.00,0.00,1.8 3,0.00,10.75,0.45
    SZ24,6.45,0.17,0.00,0.72,33.63,45.85,0.65,0.00,2.2 8,0.09,9.68,0.48
    SZ25,8.36,3.39,0.00,0.95,29.03,45.14,0.18,2.62,0.2 9,0.62,9.41,0.00
    SZ27,9.39,0.56,0.00,0.00,31.56,33.94,0.08,0.00,4.8 1,0.00,19.35,0.32
    SZ28,2.85,0.00,1.88,0.00,38.56,26.04,1.58,0.17,5.3 1,0.55,23.05,0.00
    SZ30,9.81,0.00,1.07,0.00,33.04,44.28,0.99,0.00,0.0 0,0.62,9.39,0.80
    SZ31,5.14,0.00,2.09,0.00,33.09,22.65,0.00,0.93,8.1 1,0.00,28.00,0.00
    SZ35,0.12,0.00,0.00,4.53,27.70,12.28,0.00,0.97,28. 13,0.00,26.26,0.00
    SZ36,5.31,0.00,2.69,0.00,32.16,22.10,0.15,0.00,9.9 6,0.00,27.22,0.41
    SZ37,5.09,0.92,3.42,0.00,28.94,24.21,0.00,0.41,8.7 9,0.00,28.11,0.11
    SZ38,7.72,0.00,0.00,0.51,35.07,43.13,0.25,0.92,2.8 0,0.00,8.98,0.62
    SZ40,6.88,0.00,2.06,0.00,33.24,12.47,0.00,0.00,11. 10,0.00,33.41,0.84
    SZ41,3.73,0.00,0.00,0.00,33.87,52.79,0.26,0.00,0.8 7,0.11,6.59,1.76
    SZ42,8.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,33.30,45.35,0.00,0.00,1.6 7,0.00,10.51,0.62
    SZ43,4.95,0.00,1.98,0.56,35.82,22.96,0.26,0.05,6.3 1,0.00,26.81,0.30
    SZ45,6.09,0.00,0.47,0.00,35.11,33.72,0.00,0.96,5.9 7,1.16,15.94,0.59
    IllyrianDalmatian_I3313,4.70,1.08,1.24,0.24,39.81, 24.04,0.00,0.00,3.82,0.00,24.51,0.57
    ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499,6.96,0.00,1.33, 0.32,36.11,22.41,0.00,0.00,7.21,0.00,24.66,1.00
    IllyrianDalmatian_I4331,4.14,0.00,0.60,0.00,38.27, 27.29,0.00,0.00,5.58,0.00,23.57,0.56
    IllyrianDalmatian_I4332,3.68,0.00,0.54,1.35,37.10, 27.03,0.00,0.00,5.65,0.00,23.65,0.99
    ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192,6.41,2.29,1.77,0.00 ,32.81,20.30,0.00,0.00,8.26,0.00,27.80,0.38
    ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197,3.92,0.66,0.72,0.00 ,34.44,21.60,0.00,0.49,5.41,1.91,30.02,0.84
    ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy305,7.88,1.24,1.35,0.00 ,25.96,26.16,0.00,0.00,5.87,2.50,29.04,0.00

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    Dodecad K12b updated spreadsheet - Default + data, post #342:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
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    That looks very reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    That looks very reasonable.
    Thanks Angela. I agree with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Thanks! :)

    Yep, There's a bunch of new ones with the previous ones I posted. Only 47 left to go.
    Well, here's the first batch:
    6.16793320 MA_Cancelleria_R1285
    6.88215809 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R111
    9.01179227 MA_Cancelleria_R1283
    9.10498215 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    9.25520934 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R120
    9.40529638 LA_Celio_R36
    9.46954592 LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33
    9.61917356 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    9.80181106 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    9.85873217 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R110
    10.29759195 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118
    10.76144972 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.89582948 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    10.91793937 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    11.21531542 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R113
    12.94033230 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969
    13.02701424 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R835
    13.18377791 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    13.23101281 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970
    13.78290245 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    13.98591792 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836
    14.09673366 IA_Latin_Palestrina_Selicata_R437
    14.36188010 MA_Villa_Magna_R1290
    14.47437736 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R131
    14.62137818 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107
    With Szolad and Collegno
    6.16793320 MA_Cancelleria_R1285
    6.36315173 SZ43
    6.88215809 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R111
    7.68900514 CL36
    8.38781259 SZ28
    8.99296392 SZ31
    9.00708055 CL23
    9.01179227 MA_Cancelleria_R1283
    9.10498215 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    9.25520934 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R120
    9.40529638 LA_Celio_R36
    9.46954592 LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33
    9.61917356 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    9.80181106 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    9.85873217 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R110
    10.14013314 SZ36
    10.29759195 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118
    10.76144972 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.89582948 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    10.91793937 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    11.21531542 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R113
    11.93190680 SZ19
    12.94033230 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969
    13.02701424 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R835
    13.11815917 CL121
    13.18377791 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    13.23101281 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970
    13.42359490 SZ37
    13.49423210 SZ40
    13.78290245 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    13.98591792 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836
    14.09673366 IA_Latin_Palestrina_Selicata_R437
    14.36188010 MA_Villa_Magna_R1290
    14.47437736 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R131
    14.62137818 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107


    Here, I'm about equally distant to the 1015 Etruscan sample and the R1 Proto-Villanovan, but again, closest mainly to the Szolad samples. The values are much higher than in mytrueancestry.com

    Amazing the difference in the values. I wonder what mta did differently?

    Thanks, Jovialis. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Thanks Angela. I agree with you
    Now I'm running your consolidated set with all the ancient samples including Iberian ones.

    Well, I'm stumped.

    Not because all the Iberians showed up, I hasten to add, but because the values for some of the samples from Antonio et al are different, and, for goodness sakes', although SZ43 is the closest, I'm more similar to the Illyrians/Dalmatians and Scythians and Thracians than I am to a lot of the Antonio et al samples. Plus, SZ28 showed up, which I don't remember ever being close to before.

    How can that be? I know they settled Avars in northern Italy, but Scythians?

    Wait a minute, the Scythians didn't deform women's heads like the Huns and Avars did they?

    I'm not so sure I want to be so related to them if they did. Hideous practice.

    6.31505344 SZ43
    6.50777996 IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    6.58852032 RomanCarthagoMixIberia_I8475
    7.63776145 MA_Cancelleria_R1285
    7.69473846 ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197
    8.03440104 SZ28
    8.06378943 ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499
    8.68103680 CL36
    8.83378175 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R111
    8.84223954 SZ31
    9.34141852 LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33
    9.34955079 CL23
    9.47985232 IllyrianDalmatian_I4331
    9.50960041 ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192
    9.53899890 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    9.59662441 IllyrianDalmatian_I4332
    9.81422437 MA_Cancelleria_R1283
    10.03918323 LA_Celio_R36
    10.16986234 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R120
    10.17686101 SZ36
    10.53433434 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R110
    10.59060433 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    10.59347441 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    10.84604536 PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
    11.18912865 HispanoRomanTaifaofValencia_I12647
    11.24687068 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    11.65493029 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    11.69325019 Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R55
    11.96830815 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118
    12.09626389 SZ19
    12.14681440 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R113
    12.26818650 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
    12.28989015 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    12.29894304 SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
    12.43548149 IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498
    12.65719163 SZ37
    12.95066408 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970
    13.11054156 Late_Roman_Mix_Crypta_Balbi_R105
    13.55524253 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969
    13.67006584 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R835
    13.67792016 CL121
    13.74531193 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    13.82331726 EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
    14.00183916 CL49
    14.07521225 LateRomanIberiaGranada_I3576
    14.09731535 CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
    14.21060168 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    14.37017745 SZ1
    14.40416259 SZ40
    14.56083445 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107

    Maybe I did something wrong???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    Eurogenes k15 ancient adding in Source the regional coordinates by Salento.


    Distance to: Stuvanè
    4.06595622 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    8.25298734 Italia_Umbria
    9.10625609 Italia_Toscana
    9.11383015 Italia_Emilia
    9.29851601 Italia_Bergamo
    9.30705109 Italia_Romagna
    10.12929415 Italia_Veneto
    10.16353777 Italia_Friuli
    10.47946564 Italia_Liguria
    10.50258064 Italia_Orobia
    10.62931795 Italia_Brescia
    11.08832269 Italia_Piemonte
    11.29565403 Italia_Lombardia
    11.32528587 Italia_Ager_Gallicus
    11.45519969 Italia_Lazio
    11.77299452 BronzAgeBalkan
    11.79011026 FR_Italia_Corsica
    11.93661175 Italia_Insubria
    12.20388053 Italia_Marche
    12.79597202 Italia_Emilia_Est
    13.35829705 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    13.51964497 Italia_Abruzzo
    13.54733184 Italia_Trentino
    13.65697990 Vucedol_I3499
    14.11556233 ScythianMoldova_SCY197


    Compared to other calculators it makes me slide into more central areas, but at the same time it increases the distance
    SHOUT OUT TO SALENTO!

    At least Corsica is where it belongs, and the rest looks reasonable. However, adding the modern samples seems to push the ancients away. Also, the darn Scythians are intruding again! :)

    You shouldn't be so far from Romagna, Stuvane!

    Grugni didn't even sample in Romagna, or Umbria for that matter. In fact, I don't think any academic paper has sampled there. Did the creator just use people he knew???

    Anyway, here it is:
    3.36122002 Italia_Emilia
    3.76767833 Italia_Toscana
    4.58380846 Italia_Liguria
    4.88050202 Italia_Romagna
    5.82006014 Italia_Orobia
    5.97063648 Italia_Brescia
    6.10724160 Italia_Emilia_Est
    6.43373142 Italia_Bergamo
    6.51638704 Italia_Lombardia
    6.59585476 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    6.72710933 FR_Italia_Corsica
    6.80831110 Italia_Veneto
    6.81763155 Italia_Lazio
    6.86879902 Italia_Insubria
    7.14892999 Italia_Ager_Gallicus
    7.17363227 Italia_Friuli
    7.40002027 Italia_Umbria
    8.02165818 Italia_Piemonte
    8.61444136 Italia_Marche
    9.57179711 Italia_Trentino
    9.97415661 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.52466151 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
    10.83707525 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
    11.14772174 Italia_Abruzzo
    11.64466831 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
    11.76470144 Italia_Molise
    11.84143572 Italia_Ticino
    11.90834581 BronzAgeBalkan
    12.52287507 Italia_Val_d_Aosta
    13.03677107 Vucedol_I3499
    13.05595650 Italia_Basilicata
    13.33667875 Italia_Campania
    13.34351903 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    13.43527819 Italia_Puglia
    14.45502681 Italia_Salento
    14.87404787 Italia_Sicilia
    14.91996984 Bavaria_STR310
    14.99525258 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    14.99546598 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    15.06043824 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    15.46276819 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    15.83683996 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
    16.19309729 IA_Ardea_R851
    16.26327458 IronAgeBalkan
    16.51389948 MA_Malta
    17.46251414 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
    18.13431002 Italia_Calabria
    18.36019063 MedievalHungarian_DA199
    18.44684797 Scythian_SCY311
    18.71971421 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435

    Who are Italia Insubria and Italia Ager Gallicus, from what papers? Other than the Proto-Villanovan, they're my closest ancients.

    Is the Vucedol Late Neolithic, i.e. pre-steppe?

    Wait till my husband sees my distance from Italia Calabria. He'll say it explains everything. Much closer to his Campania side, but certainly not close. Opposites attract indeed. :)

    This doesn't make sense. My value for the R1015 Etruscan is much further than on other calculators, even this one without moderns, and my R474 Etruscan is closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Now I'm running your consolidated set with all the ancient samples including Iberian ones.

    Well, I'm stumped.

    Not because all the Iberians showed up, I hasten to add, but because the values for some of the samples from Antonio et al are different, and, for goodness sakes', although SZ43 is the closest, I'm more similar to the Illyrians/Dalmatians and Scythians and Thracians than I am to a lot of the Antonio et al samples. Plus, SZ28 showed up, which I don't remember ever being close to before.

    How can that be? I know they settled Avars in northern Italy, but Scythians?

    Wait a minute, the Scythians didn't deform women's heads like the Huns and Avars did they?

    I'm not so sure I want to be so related to them if they did. Hideous practice.

    6.31505344 SZ43
    6.50777996 IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    6.58852032 RomanCarthagoMixIberia_I8475
    7.63776145 MA_Cancelleria_R1285
    7.69473846 ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197
    8.03440104 SZ28
    8.06378943 ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499
    8.68103680 CL36
    8.83378175 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R111
    8.84223954 SZ31
    9.34141852 LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33
    9.34955079 CL23
    9.47985232 IllyrianDalmatian_I4331
    9.50960041 ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192
    9.53899890 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    9.59662441 IllyrianDalmatian_I4332
    9.81422437 MA_Cancelleria_R1283
    10.03918323 LA_Celio_R36
    10.16986234 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R120
    10.17686101 SZ36
    10.53433434 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R110
    10.59060433 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    10.59347441 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    10.84604536 PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
    11.18912865 HispanoRomanTaifaofValencia_I12647
    11.24687068 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    11.65493029 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    11.69325019 Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R55
    11.96830815 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118
    12.09626389 SZ19
    12.14681440 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R113
    12.26818650 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
    12.28989015 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    12.29894304 SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
    12.43548149 IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498
    12.65719163 SZ37
    12.95066408 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970
    13.11054156 Late_Roman_Mix_Crypta_Balbi_R105
    13.55524253 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969
    13.67006584 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R835
    13.67792016 CL121
    13.74531193 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    13.82331726 EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
    14.00183916 CL49
    14.07521225 LateRomanIberiaGranada_I3576
    14.09731535 CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
    14.21060168 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    14.37017745 SZ1
    14.40416259 SZ40
    14.56083445 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107

    Maybe I did something wrong???
    Hi Angela.

    I obtained the Iberian, Illyrian and Scythian coordinates from the BAM files stored at the following links:

    Iberians

    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB30874

    Illyrians
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB22652


    Scythians
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB27628



    The K12b coordinates were obtained using the WGS Extract and DNA Admix Studio V2.4 tools. BAM files converted to txt, recommended WGS standard. If Jovialis wants to, he can check the coordinates of the Scythians and Illyrians (only seven samples), because he is using the same tools as me.
    I think there's nothing wrong with coordinates, but someone else's QA is always welcome.

    Scythians and Illyrians do not appear to me, on Dodecad K12b, but both are good "matches" to me on MTA. Why? I don't know!!!

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    @Angela

    Note that there are blank spaces in the posted coordinates that must be removed before data adding to Vahaduo. These spaces appear when data are paste in the Eupedia site. The data copyed and pasted on the Eupedia site, lose the formatting from the original file. In Eupedia appears the white spaces, unfortunately. Try the file from the link below, which is 'clean':

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iWb...ew?usp=sharing

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