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    my result with all your additions form post 342

    Distance to: Torziok12b
    1.89726118 Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R55
    2.57738938 Italy_FriuliVG
    2.91721398 Italy_Veneto
    3.15360272 Italy_Piedmont
    4.32371831 Italy_Trentino
    4.63928874 Late_Roman_Mix_Crypta_Balbi_R105
    4.65249395 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    4.82277928 CL23
    4.85309180 IllyrianDalmatian_I4331
    4.86300319 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    5.02880702 IllyrianDalmatian_I4332
    5.21059138 Swiss_Italian
    5.21492090 LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33
    5.62034319 Italy_Lombardy
    6.00532264 SZ28
    6.33094275 Italy_Liguria
    6.60955369 CL49
    6.64383556 Italy_Emilia
    6.88000000 ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499
    6.93799683 CL94
    6.96106620 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    7.57478052 IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    7.62312272 CL57
    7.70831369 CL36
    7.72828571 CL47



    my cousin ( paternal side ) from trentino

    Distance to: TrentinoCles
    2.53333772 LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33
    2.88975778 IllyrianDalmatian_I4332
    3.31051356 IllyrianDalmatian_I4331
    3.75795157 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    3.85072720 SZ28
    4.14305918 Italy_Veneto
    4.27906532 SZ43
    4.66815569 Italy_Lombardy
    4.82467099 Italy_Liguria
    5.06032608 IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    5.11384405 Italy_Emilia
    5.48084210 Italy_Piedmont
    5.74693571 Italy_Tuscany
    5.88459005 ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499
    6.05645936 CL36
    6.11802256 Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R55
    6.15176853 Italy_FriuliVG
    6.50109222 CL23
    6.53108720 SZ31
    6.62085059 Swiss_Italian
    7.19608922 Italy_Trentino
    7.22083098 Italy_Romagna
    7.26898205 ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197
    7.89238874 CL49
    7.97467241 SZ36
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
    Wife paternal line R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    @dauarte

    my result with all your additions form post 342

    Distance to: Torziok12b
    1.89726118 Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R55
    2.57738938 Italy_FriuliVG
    2.91721398 Italy_Veneto
    3.15360272 Italy_Piedmont
    4.32371831 Italy_Trentino
    4.63928874 Late_Roman_Mix_Crypta_Balbi_R105
    4.65249395 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    4.82277928 CL23
    4.85309180 IllyrianDalmatian_I4331
    4.86300319 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    5.02880702 IllyrianDalmatian_I4332
    5.21059138 Swiss_Italian
    5.21492090 LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33
    5.62034319 Italy_Lombardy
    6.00532264 SZ28
    6.33094275 Italy_Liguria
    6.60955369 CL49
    6.64383556 Italy_Emilia
    6.88000000 ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499
    6.93799683 CL94
    6.96106620 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    7.57478052 IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    7.62312272 CL57
    7.70831369 CL36
    7.72828571 CL47



    my cousin ( paternal side ) from trentino

    Distance to: TrentinoCles
    2.53333772 LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R33
    2.88975778 IllyrianDalmatian_I4332
    3.31051356 IllyrianDalmatian_I4331
    3.75795157 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    3.85072720 SZ28
    4.14305918 Italy_Veneto
    4.27906532 SZ43
    4.66815569 Italy_Lombardy
    4.82467099 Italy_Liguria
    5.06032608 IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    5.11384405 Italy_Emilia
    5.48084210 Italy_Piedmont
    5.74693571 Italy_Tuscany
    5.88459005 ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499
    6.05645936 CL36
    6.11802256 Late_Medieval_Villa_Magna_Italy_R55
    6.15176853 Italy_FriuliVG
    6.50109222 CL23
    6.53108720 SZ31
    6.62085059 Swiss_Italian
    7.19608922 Italy_Trentino
    7.22083098 Italy_Romagna
    7.26898205 ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197
    7.89238874 CL49
    7.97467241 SZ36
    Very cool, torzio. I tried to vote for your post, but unfortunataly I can vote no more today. Cheers :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Hi Angela.

    I obtained the Iberian, Illyrian and Scythian coordinates from the BAM files stored at the following links:

    Iberians

    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB30874

    Illyrians
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB22652


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    The K12b coordinates were obtained using the WGS Extract and DNA Admix Studio V2.4 tools. BAM files converted to txt, recommended WGS standard. If Jovialis wants to, he can check the coordinates of the Scythians and Illyrians (only seven samples), because he is using the same tools as me.
    I think there's nothing wrong with coordinates, but someone else's QA is always welcome.

    Scythians and Illyrians do not appear to me, on Dodecad K12b, but both are good "matches" to me on MTA. Why? I don't know!!!
    Hope you don't think I was implying it's your fault!!! You can't be blamed for my "weird" ancestry results :) The vagaries of these calculators are also not your responsibility.

    It's frustrating though to get such different distances depending not only on the calculator but on the combination of sources.

    Although, most of the samples to which I'm close appear again and again. Different order, and sometimes different distances, but many of the same samples. SZ28 and SZ31 are new, but looking at them they should probably have shown up before, as they're the same mix of TSI pulled northwest by IBS and Great Britain.


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    I think I have to take a break. I'm forgetting what I tested and what I didn't. :)

    Anyway, these are my husband's K15 ancient results with the Grugni sample coordinates provided by Salento.

    Sicily (and Malta) is a surprise, but Calabria and Campania are correct. I stopped at a distance of 25 because after that, what's the point.

    R850 shows up earlier and R437 later than on other calculators. I give up! :)

    4.79172203 Italia_Calabria
    5.37255209 MA_Malta
    6.36634118 Italia_Sicilia
    6.93840039 Italia_Campania
    6.93961094 Italia_Salento
    8.04560750 IA_Ardea_R850
    9.07207253 Italia_Puglia
    9.50939535 Italia_Molise
    9.84236760 Italia_Basilicata
    9.84325657 Italia_Abruzzo
    12.09268374 Mycenaean_I9041
    12.18474866 Italia_Umbria
    12.30266638 Italia_Marche
    12.30402373 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    13.99994286 Italia_Ager_Gallicus
    14.00897926 Italia_Lazio
    14.79203164 ChalcolithicAgeAnatolian
    15.59970192 Italia_Romagna
    15.62582798 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
    16.02196305 Crimean_Goth_KER1
    17.17328157 Ovaören_Topakhöyük_AnatoliaEBA_MA2212
    17.65555437 Mycenaean_I9006
    17.68222837 FR_Italia_Corsica
    17.84806432 Italia_Toscana
    17.99575228 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2200
    18.27189372 IronAgeBalkan
    18.78429131 Minoan_Lasithi_I9005
    19.18024505 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1632
    19.73363879 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    19.74544758 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
    19.85970795 Italia_Emilia
    20.89206069 Italia_Emilia_Est
    21.11876180 Italia_Liguria
    22.05061904 Minoan_Lasithi_I0074
    22.50006000 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
    22.53031513 Italia_Brescia
    22.66304701 Italia_Bergamo
    23.03091618 Italia_Orobia
    23.24185879 Italia_Friuli
    23.75656330 Italia_Veneto
    23.79650184 Italia_Lombardia
    24.03288996 Vucedol_I3499
    24.38706214 Italia_Insubria
    24.42494012 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1407
    24.45488908 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
    24.47140781 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
    25.16761808 Italia_Piemonte
    25.75751735 Bavaria_STR310

    Where's all this Levantine I'd like to know.

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    I, the Scythians and the Illyrians of Dalmatia:


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    Do you have ancient sample I5524 from Bavaria BB sample in your data-base ..............My mothers data gets this from another site

    I5524
    mtDNA: H72


    ............................................

    and why are my results nearly always under 10 ....while others have many over 10 ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    @dauarte

    Do you have ancient sample I5524 from Bavaria BB sample in your data-base ..............My mothers data gets this from another site

    I5524
    mtDNA: H72


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    and why are my results nearly always under 10 ....while others have many over 10 ............
    Hi torzio,

    I don't have this data, but tomorrow (for me, in Brazil, are January 6th, 10:34 PM now, LOL) I will search and return to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Hi torzio,

    I don't have this data, but tomorrow (for me, in Brazil, are January 6th, 10:34 PM now, LOL) I will search and return to you.

    Is that date not Befana date.......when the gifts are opened?

    A theory connects the tradition of exchanging gifts to an ancient Roman festivity in honour of Ianus and Strenia (in Italian a Christmas gift used to be called strenna), celebrated at the beginning of the year, when Romans used to give each other presents.

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    Distance to: S_dod_k12b_upd_+_Ancient
    3.13945983 Italy_Apulia
    3.62197460 MA_Villa_Magna_R59
    4.05852190 MA_Villa_Magna_R58
    4.78208110 Italy_Abruzzo
    4.84016529 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107
    5.00111987 MA_Villa_Magna_R60
    5.13485151 MA_Villa_Magna_R54
    5.25852641 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973
    5.26076991 MA_Villa_Magna_R1290
    5.45192682 Italy_Campania
    5.67145352 Italy_Sicily
    5.78962866 LA_Celio_R35
    5.85737142 MA_Villa_Magna_R65
    6.13075036 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969
    6.26099832 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    6.36004717 Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1544
    6.44980620 Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R136
    6.69945520 MA_Villa_Magna_R56
    6.80276414 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R122
    6.93261134 MA_Villa_Magna_R64
    7.02472064 Imperial_Palestrina_R436
    7.06887544 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836
    7.22002770 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R114
    7.28308711 Italy_Calabria
    7.34021798 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R835


    Distance to: S_dod_K12b_Ancient_only
    3.62197460 MA_Villa_Magna_R59
    4.05852190 MA_Villa_Magna_R58
    4.84016529 LA_Crypta_Balbi_R107
    5.00111987 MA_Villa_Magna_R60
    5.13485151 MA_Villa_Magna_R54
    5.25852641 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973
    5.26076991 MA_Villa_Magna_R1290
    5.78962866 LA_Celio_R35
    5.85737142 MA_Villa_Magna_R65
    6.13075036 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969
    6.26099832 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    6.36004717 Imperial_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_R1544
    6.44980620 Imperial_Marcellino_&_Pietro_R136
    6.69945520 MA_Villa_Magna_R56
    6.80276414 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R122
    6.93261134 MA_Villa_Magna_R64
    7.02472064 Imperial_Palestrina_R436
    7.06887544 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836
    7.22002770 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R114
    7.34021798 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R835
    7.99186461 Imperial_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_R131
    8.62114842 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970
    8.67596104 LA_Mausole_di_Augusto_R32
    9.02955148 CL121
    9.12576572 CL110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    SHOUT OUT TO SALENTO!

    At least Corsica is where it belongs, and the rest looks reasonable. However, adding the modern samples seems to push the ancients away. Also, the darn Scythians are intruding again! :)

    You shouldn't be so far from Romagna, Stuvane!

    Grugni didn't even sample in Romagna, or Umbria for that matter. In fact, I don't think any academic paper has sampled there. Did the creator just use people he knew???
    Hi, Angela. I suspected that my areas had few samples. Anyway here are the new results of the Dodecad k12 b with only ancient samples from the Duarte list (post #342) :)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Hope you don't think I was implying it's your fault!!! You can't be blamed for my "weird" ancestry results :) The vagaries of these calculators are also not your responsibility.

    It's frustrating though to get such different distances depending not only on the calculator but on the combination of sources.

    Although, most of the samples to which I'm close appear again and again. Different order, and sometimes different distances, but many of the same samples. SZ28 and SZ31 are new, but looking at them they should probably have shown up before, as they're the same mix of TSI pulled northwest by IBS and Great Britain.
    Don't worry, Angela. Each calculator has its own algorithm and, as we have seen in the experiments we have done with Dodecad K12b, the results vary greatly depending on the populations in the data source. It all depends on the algorithm and the quality of the source data. I have you as a teacher and I respect my teachers very much. Since you said that Dodecad K12b is the best calculator and that it is the one that returns the results most consistent with scientific papers, I bought the idea that Dodecad 12b is the best calculator. Your experience is my reference. Cheers :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    @dauarte

    Do you have ancient sample I5524 from Bavaria BB sample in your data-base ..............My mothers data gets this from another site

    I5524
    mtDNA: H72


    ............................................

    and why are my results nearly always under 10 ....while others have many over 10 ............
    @torzio

    Dodecad 12b coordinates:
    Bavaria_BB_II5524,2.95,0.00,1.28,1.77,41.61,28.76, 0.00,0.00,3.52,0.00,20.12,0.00

    Souce:
    Bavaria
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB23635

    Cheers :)

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    My K12b results, I'd say that as an euro-mix from Friuli it doesn't look like I'm all that different by people between whom I grew up
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    5.56573445Albanian_Kosovo
    6.03076280Albanian_North
    6.66767121Italy_Veneto
    7.33342349Italy_Piedmont
    7.36958615Italy_Romagna
    7.42874350Italy_Tuscany
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    7.52558636Italy_Liguria
    8.69749182Italy_Lazio
    8.88716364Italy_Lombardy
    9.52838391Italy_Trentino
    9.72518987Italy_Marche
    10.05575519Swiss_Italian
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    12.96358580Italy_Aosta_Valley
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    13.93013281Bulgarians
    14.32524917Italy_Abruzzo
    14.81369394Italy_Apulia
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    ... unlike MTA, my Ancient dod k12 is almost an Italian (R) Timeline
    (all Duarte and Jovialis R SZ CL I FN_2 Illyria ... samples):




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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... unlike MTA, my Ancient dod k12 is almost an Italian (R) Timeline
    (all Duarte and Jovialis R SZ CL I FN_2 Illyria ... samples):

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    I believe the former is more accurate than the latter.

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    To help develop Dodecad 12b ancient - more samples of Scythians and some of Central and Northwest Europe:

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    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB27628

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    Bavaria_BB_II5524,2.95,0.00,1.28,1.77,41.61,28.76, 0.00,0.00,3.52,0.00,20.12,0.00
    BeakerNorthItaly_I2478,4.97,0.00,0.00,0.15,47.73,2 8.87,0.74,0.00,3.49,0.84,12.34,0.86
    BronzeAgeEngland_I2462,8.52,1.12,1.18,0.00,45.45,3 3.73,0.00,0.00,2.08,0.00,6.90,1.02
    BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655,9.88,0.61,0.00,0.39,3 7.20,45.77,0.76,0.00,0.29,0.00,4.27,0.82
    NeolithicScotland_I2634,0.00,0.00,6.63,1.42,60.56, 11.65,0.00,0.21,7.56,0.00,11.96,0.00
    ScythianMoldova_SCY300,4.54,1.43,0.00,1.31,33.51,2 0.87,0.00,0.34,10.07,0.00,26.82,1.10
    Scythian_SCY311,14.94,1.07,0.00,4.64,29.84,23.85,0 .00,0.00,3.92,1.17,19.59,1.00

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    Vahaduo Dodecad K12b, all ancient samples, including CL, SZ, FN_2, SCY, Illyrians, Central and Northwest Europe. Consolidated data until now, January 8, 2019 (Jovialis + Duarte) - posts #342 + #367:
    Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16cF...ew?usp=sharing


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    Vahaduo Dodecad K12b only ancient



    Vahaduo Dodecad 12 updated spreadsheet (vahaduo default + ancient samples)


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    Check it out:

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39706-Ancient-Rome-Test-V1-0?p=594823#post594823

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    NEW! All Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo ON-LINE

    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Check it out:

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39706-Ancient-Rome-Test-V1-0?p=594823#post594823
    Great work, Jovialis :)

    New samples of Iberians and Bell Beaker France:
    BronzeAgeSpainCogotas_I12208,1.39,0.00,5.31,0.43,5 4.53,22.97,1.16,0.00,3.96,0.94,8.35,0.95
    VasconesTribeVasconia_I3758,3.58,0.82,1.72,0.00,48 .92,32.83,0.00,0.00,2.47,0.00,8.72,0.94
    VisigothGermanicGirona_I12163,7.57,0.24,0.32,0.77, 34.32,39.43,0.00,0.00,3.75,0.12,12.64,0.83
    VasconesTribeVasconia_I3759,2.22,0.00,1.44,1.17,52 .23,30.07,0.00,0.00,2.58,0.05,8.61,1.63
    BasqueCarolingian_I3777,8.28,0.90,0.00,0.00,44.20, 32.10,0.11,0.30,5.29,0.50,8.25,0.08
    BellBeakerFrance_I1388,0.00,0.00,2.30,0.00,59.39,2 1.76,0.81,0.00,7.46,0.00,8.28,0.00
    IlergetesTribeCatalan_I3320,4.64,0.00,4.88,1.09,52 .24,25.19,0.00,0.00,3.67,0.00,7.44,0.86
    IlercavonesCatalan_I3321,3.80,0.00,4.55,0.00,55.48 ,25.14,0.00,0.83,2.20,0.32,7.68,0.00
    BellBeakerSouthernFrance_I3874,5.77,0.32,0.81,0.47 ,39.46,40.05,1.07,0.56,0.80,0.00,10.47,0.22
    IberianElArgarBronzeAge_I8136,0.00,0.00,4.83,0.00, 61.85,21.67,1.21,0.00,3.88,0.00,6.07,0.49

    Sources:
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    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB23635

    Iberians
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB30874

    Consolidated data J + D, see link Below:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T45...ew?usp=sharing

    My new ancient results on Vahaduo Dodecad K12b, ancient, with consolidated data J + D:


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    Amazing to me that I'm as close to some of the Iberians of the Roman and Medieval period as I am to some Medieval and Late Antiquity Romans and closest of all to an Illyrian/Dalmatian.
    5.88072274 IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    6.32650773 RomanCarthagoMixIberia_I8475
    6.44030279 R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.46676117 SZ43
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    7.88178279 CL36
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    8.36475343 SZ28
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    9.17988562 SZ31
    9.21016829 CL23
    9.24803222 IllyrianDalmatian_I4331
    9.30224167 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.30524583 ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192
    9.47417543 R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    9.47641282 R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
    9.54090667 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
    9.59307563 IllyrianDalmatian_I4332
    9.59990625 R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    9.74779462 R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    9.81179392 R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    9.81848257 R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    10.41360648 PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
    10.41424025 SZ36
    10.57665354 R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica
    10.65957316 R118__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    10.77751827 R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    10.82190833 R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    11.25718437 R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    11.48748885 R113__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    12.03847582 SZ19
    12.06772970 Bavaria_BB_II5524
    12.14752238 HispanoRomanTaifaofValencia_I12647
    12.56763701 SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
    12.87379121 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
    12.90000388 R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    12.99464505 R52___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    13.07947629 IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498
    13.22874522 R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    13.25014717 EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
    13.33739855 R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    13.36636824 R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    13.46236235 CL121
    13.51517665 R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    13.64184738 SZ37
    13.75852463 SZ40
    14.11183546 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    14.11645848 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Amazing to me that I'm as close to some of the Iberians of the Roman and Medieval period as I am to some Medieval and Late Antiquity Romans and closest of all to an Illyrian/Dalmatian.
    5.88072274 IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    6.32650773 RomanCarthagoMixIberia_I8475
    6.44030279 R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.46676117 SZ43
    6.53661992 R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    7.03668956 ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499
    7.14881808 R111__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    7.88178279 CL36
    8.15250268 ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197
    8.36475343 SZ28
    8.92554760 R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima
    9.17988562 SZ31
    9.21016829 CL23
    9.24803222 IllyrianDalmatian_I4331
    9.30224167 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.30524583 ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192
    9.47417543 R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    9.47641282 R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
    9.54090667 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
    9.59307563 IllyrianDalmatian_I4332
    9.59990625 R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    9.74779462 R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    9.81179392 R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    9.81848257 R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    10.41360648 PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
    10.41424025 SZ36
    10.57665354 R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica
    10.65957316 R118__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    10.77751827 R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    10.82190833 R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    11.25718437 R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    11.48748885 R113__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    12.03847582 SZ19
    12.06772970 Bavaria_BB_II5524
    12.14752238 HispanoRomanTaifaofValencia_I12647
    12.56763701 SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
    12.87379121 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
    12.90000388 R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    12.99464505 R52___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    13.07947629 IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498
    13.22874522 R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    13.25014717 EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
    13.33739855 R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    13.36636824 R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    13.46236235 CL121
    13.51517665 R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    13.64184738 SZ37
    13.75852463 SZ40
    14.11183546 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
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    I don’t usually post the Combined results for dod k12, ‘cause it matches me closer to 2 Ancient samples than to a Modern.

    I’ve been using the regular raw-data by AncestryDNA.

    fyi (my Combined by DnaKitStudio is almost Identical to my Combined by GedMatch)

    Maybe the Combined is more accurate, but I find it weird that it makes me closer to Medieval samples than my own Modern Region.


    Distance to: S_Comb
    2.47058697 R58___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    2.78591098 R59___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    3.39639338 Italy_Apulia


    Single Raw-D Ancestry

    Distance to: S
    3.13945983 Italy_Apulia
    3.62197460 R59___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    @Angela


    Is it my Emilian side or my Tuscan side???

    I wish a 100% Tuscan would post.

    Well, I can't explain it, but there it is. :)

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    Ancient DNA sheds light on the genetic origins of early Iron Age Philistines
    https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/7/eaax0061
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB31035

    ASH2-3_Iron_Age1,4.96,0,12.41,0,10.20,0,4.20,0,1.89,0,6 6.34,0
    ASH008_Iron_Age2,10.84,0,4.00,0,11.39,0,0,0.63,29. 23,0,43.90,0
    ASH029_Late_Bronze_Age,8.31,0,9.61,0,12.28,6.19,0, 0,27.92,0,35.69,0
    ASH033_Late_Bronze_Age,5.83,0,4.07,0,10.30,3.87,0, 0,28.76,0,47.17,0
    ASH034_Late_Bronze_Age,10.82,0,3.64,0.66,14.01,0,0 ,0.84,25.02,0,45.01,0
    ASH066_Iron_Age1,9.21,0,7.83,0,15.39,0,5.06,0.07,2 2.99,0.97,37.59,0.90
    ASH067_Iron_Age1,9.18,0,3.02,0,23.86,2.30,0,0,19.3 1,0,42.33,0
    ASH068_Iron_Age1,0,0,0,1.65,39.53,8.59,0,0.65,14.6 1,0,34.97,0
    ASH087_Iron_Age2,5.64,1.37,3.88,0,12.66,0,0,2.67,3 2.15,0,41.63,0
    ASH135_Iron_Age2,5.14,0,17.24,0.39,6.20,6.72,0,3.3 5,27.59,0,33.18,0.18

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