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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Ancient DNA sheds light on the genetic origins of early Iron Age Philistines
    https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/7/eaax0061
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB31035

    ASH2-3_Iron_Age1,4.96,0,12.41,0,10.20,0,4.20,0,1.89,0,6 6.34,0
    ASH008_Iron_Age2,10.84,0,4.00,0,11.39,0,0,0.63,29. 23,0,43.90,0
    ASH029_Late_Bronze_Age,8.31,0,9.61,0,12.28,6.19,0, 0,27.92,0,35.69,0
    ASH033_Late_Bronze_Age,5.83,0,4.07,0,10.30,3.87,0, 0,28.76,0,47.17,0
    ASH034_Late_Bronze_Age,10.82,0,3.64,0.66,14.01,0,0 ,0.84,25.02,0,45.01,0
    ASH066_Iron_Age1,9.21,0,7.83,0,15.39,0,5.06,0.07,2 2.99,0.97,37.59,0.90
    ASH067_Iron_Age1,9.18,0,3.02,0,23.86,2.30,0,0,19.3 1,0,42.33,0
    ASH068_Iron_Age1,0,0,0,1.65,39.53,8.59,0,0.65,14.6 1,0,34.97,0
    ASH087_Iron_Age2,5.64,1.37,3.88,0,12.66,0,0,2.67,3 2.15,0,41.63,0
    ASH135_Iron_Age2,5.14,0,17.24,0.39,6.20,6.72,0,3.3 5,27.59,0,33.18,0.18

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    So far away from me :)


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    Well, Iberians aren't getting the "Balkan/Greek" part of the spectrum, so it makes sense as we know the Philistines were probably of Aegean origin and/or Sardinian/Southern Italian.

    Even as a North/Central Italian who never gets Greek Islanders they're extremely far from me, although there seems to be variation. Perhaps they were already partly admixed with locals?

    17.27458827 ASH068_Iron_Age1
    32.23829400 ASH067_Iron_Age1
    39.09207720 ASH066_Iron_Age1
    40.66160597 ASH029_Late_Bronze_Age
    43.12474000 ASH034_Late_Bronze_Age
    46.10386318 ASH087_Iron_Age2
    46.28961979 ASH135_Iron_Age2
    46.33470621 ASH033_Late_Bronze_Age
    46.39951616 ASH008_Iron_Age2
    54.86118664 ASH2-3_Iron_Age1
    Last edited by Angela; 09-01-20 at 18:49.


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    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

    Myself - FTDNA data
    Regio X (FTDNA),18.00,27.25,7.31,5.55,18.05,10.25,11.91,1. 69,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

    Distance to: RegioX(FTDNA)
    5.81139398 Italy_Piedmont
    7.64256501 North_Italian
    7.83471123 Italy_Friuli
    7.98424699 Italy_Veneto
    9.11083970 Italy_Liguria
    9.12168296 Italy_Trentino
    9.28586022 Spanish_Cataluna
    9.57438771 Italy_Lombardy
    9.61379738 Spanish_Extremadura
    9.81374546 Spanish_Murcia
    9.97592101 Italy_Aostavalley
    10.07510298 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    10.08800278 Portuguese
    10.09617749 Spanish_Andalucia
    10.40860221 Spanish_Valencia
    11.00705228 France-South
    11.05604812 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    11.16201595 Italy_Tuscany
    11.49385923 Spanish_Galicia
    11.67317009 Austria-Tyrol
    11.83990287 Italy_Emiliaromagna
    12.69125683 Spanish_Cantabria
    12.80010547 Tuscan
    13.20445001 French
    13.36710515 Spanish_Aragon

    Myself - 23andMe data
    Regio X (23andMe),17.66,27.71,7.12,5.68,18.19,10.27,11.57, 1.79,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

    Distance to: RegioX(23andMe)
    6.27479880 Italy_Piedmont
    7.97563791 North_Italian
    8.42604890 Italy_Friuli
    8.59940696 Italy_Veneto
    9.24076837 Spanish_Cataluna
    9.51460456 Spanish_Extremadura
    9.61484269 Italy_Liguria
    9.69180582 Italy_Trentino
    9.71839493 Spanish_Murcia
    9.76026639 Spanish_Andalucia
    9.97705868 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    10.10194536 Italy_Lombardy
    10.10349444 Spanish_Valencia
    10.14796531 Portuguese
    10.33478592 Italy_Aostavalley
    10.66746455 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    11.09341246 France-South
    11.62681384 Spanish_Galicia
    11.64566014 Italy_Tuscany
    12.05481232 Austria-Tyrol
    12.37268362 Italy_Emiliaromagna
    12.37773808 Spanish_Cantabria
    12.98425585 Spanish_Aragon
    13.12186343 Southwest_French
    13.18023141 Tuscan

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    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

    Father - 23andMe data
    Father (23andMe),19.38,21.32,9.23,5.85,18.59,8.54,14.39,1 .08,1.62,0,0,0,0,0,0

    Distance to: Father(23andMe)
    2.83185452 Italy_Friuli
    3.10404575 Italy_Veneto
    4.78541534 Italy_Trentino
    5.84746099 Italy_Piedmont
    5.91065986 Italy_Liguria
    6.23081857 North_Italian
    6.56878984 Italy_Lombardy
    7.51052595 Italy_Emiliaromagna
    7.53882617 Italy_Tuscany
    9.62334661 Albanian-Kosovo
    10.17740635 Tuscan
    10.18480731 Italy_Aostavalley
    10.62274917 Austria-Tyrol
    10.98721479 Kosovo_Albanian
    11.13799354 Portuguese
    11.45726407 Spanish_Galicia
    11.65253620 South_Serbian
    11.76717919 Montenegrin
    11.80491423 Macedonian_2
    11.84513402 Albanian-Macedonia
    11.91277885 Spanish_Cataluna
    12.09184022 Spanish_Extremadura
    12.11399191 Albanian-North
    12.11897685 Italy_Marche
    12.32470623 Macedonian

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    Mother (23andMe),21.49,23.29,8.51,5.84,19.59,8.92,10.22,1 .95,0,0,0,0.18,0,0,0

    Distance to: Mother(23andMe)
    4.29228377 Italy_Piedmont
    5.32244305 Italy_Veneto
    5.48666565 Italy_Trentino
    6.38738601 Italy_Friuli
    6.44797643 Italy_Aostavalley
    8.14300927 North_Italian
    8.20082313 Austria-Tyrol
    8.23156729 Italy_Lombardy
    8.50304651 Spanish_Galicia
    8.65068783 Portuguese
    9.08626436 Spanish_Cataluna
    9.10936880 Italy_Liguria
    9.25953563 France-South
    9.88733028 Spanish_Extremadura
    10.09185315 French
    10.24220191 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    10.84050737 Spanish_Murcia
    11.22629948 Italy_Tuscany
    11.41492444 Italy_Emiliaromagna
    12.58583331 Spanish_Andalucia
    12.66361718 Spanish_Valencia
    12.78953478 German_Bavarian
    12.94397157 Spanish_Cantabria
    13.11978658 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    13.97852281 Tuscan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    It worked well for me and my parents, but my mother got Trentino at first, before Veneto, and she's Venetian in ancestry. My father and I got Veneto at first.
    It seems K13 worked better than K15 for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet.

    Source excluded (Vahaduo default):
    Italy_Aostavalley,26.62,25.03,7.48,4.39,17.71,6.75 ,9.38,1.80,0.00,0.02,0.17,0.19,0.14,0.15,0.16
    Italy_Piedmont,21.38,25.13,7.86,4.01,19.32,6.70,12 .69,2.19,0.11,0.01,0.06,0.12,0.24,0.13,0.03
    Italy_Trentino,21.92,21.72,11.28,5.55,18.46,5.83,1 3.09,1.32,0.00,0.03,0.11,0.16,0.47,0.06,0.00
    Italy_Abruzzo,11.25,15.03,6.36,2.91,16.39,15.65,26 .38,5.48,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.17,0.07
    Italy_Apulia,9.50,14.93,6.66,2.94,17.44,14.90,27.2 4,4.99,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.18,0.58,0.55,0.01
    Italy_Calabria,8.07,12.92,4.55,1.98,17.48,15.12,31 .66,6.46,0.13,0.11,0.04,0.09,0.36,0.97,0.07
    Italy_Campania,8.83,15.10,5.33,2.06,18.31,14.96,29 .68,5.57,0.12,0.14,0.04,0.06,0.13,0.56,0.08
    Italy_Central_Sicily,8.94,14.64,4.78,1.31,17.60,14 .12,29.14,6.68,0.05,0.15,0.03,0.14,0.20,1.84,0.36
    Italy_East_Sicily,8.07,12.81,4.41,1.82,18.07,15.44 ,30.59,6.26,0.22,0.18,0.13,0.07,0.23,1.20,0.48
    Italy_West_Sicily,9.37,13.38,4.79,1.71,18.12,13.93 ,30.01,5.89,0.32,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.21,0.98,0.85
    Italy_Emiliaromagna,17.94,19.13,7.04,3.17,20.08,8. 91,19.65,3.29,0.03,0.12,0.00,0.04,0.29,0.15,0.02
    Italy_Friuli,19.00,21.50,10.42,6.03,17.50,7.38,14. 76,2.41,0.28,0.15,0.02,0.34,0.06,0.13,0.00
    Italy_Lazio,15.18,17.36,7.06,2.43,19.99,9.92,23.83 ,3.74,0.07,0.14,0.03,0.10,0.03,0.05,0.09
    Italy_Liguria,18.23,21.71,6.84,3.24,20.21,7.98,17. 82,3.03,0.11,0.17,0.07,0.23,0.24,0.03,0.08
    Italy_Lombardy,21.50,22.45,6.34,2.73,20.71,6.38,16 .91,2.27,0.11,0.21,0.08,0.06,0.16,0.07,0.00
    Italy_Marche,15.34,17.26,5.97,2.22,19.56,11.73,22. 54,4.32,0.21,0.10,0.00,0.37,0.10,0.27,0.07
    Italy_Tuscany,17.25,20.05,6.52,2.79,20.41,9.07,19. 20,3.54,0.57,0.25,0.02,0.06,0.14,0.08,0.02
    Italy_Veneto,21.07,21.37,8.50,5.45,18.65,7.15,14.6 9,2.42,0.14,0.18,0.05,0.08,0.15,0.09,0.00


    Source included (Salento):
    Italia_Val_d_Aosta,25.41,24.37,9.11,2.14,18.18,5.1 8,12.89,1.82,0,0.14,0.26,0.05,0.23,0.14,0.03
    Italia_Piemonte,19.28,23.71,7.82,4.67,19.93,6.66,1 4.21,2.82,0.6,0.01,0.1,0.09,0.15,0.01,0.17
    Italia_Ticino,22.8,23.57,6.92,5.78,20.65,4.11,13.1 5,2.55,0,0,0,0.21,0.02,0.19,0
    Italia_Insubria,20.25,23.17,6.95,2.68,21.05,6.51,1 6.43,2.23,0.02,0.19,0.04,0.04,0.11,0.15,0.03
    Italia_Lombardia,19.84,22.41,6.98,3.53,20.32,7.22, 15.92,2.73,0.34,0.2,0.12,0,0.22,0.03,0.02
    Italia_Orobia,18.64,23.16,7.08,3.13,21.11,6.94,16. 78,2.39,0.13,0.11,0.12,0.06,0.12,0.15,0
    Italia_Bergamo,17.2,24.91,6.3,3.61,21.1,7.11,16.52 ,2.7,0.08,0.11,0.04,0,0.16,0.12,0
    Italia_Brescia,18.29,23.54,6.24,3.38,21.57,6.58,17 .99,1.88,0.13,0,0.15,0.13,0.01,0.05,0
    Italia_Trentino,21.17,21.45,9.97,5.67,19.19,5.71,1 4.14,1.6,0,0.08,0.05,0.34,0.38,0.19,0
    Italia_Veneto,18.38,22.48,9.33,4.48,19.47,8.18,14. 8,1.87,0.13,0.19,0.38,0.2,0.03,0,0.02
    Italia_Friuli,18.28,20.89,9.71,6.3,17.72,7.73,15.6 1,2.73,0.27,0.23,0,0.34,0.09,0.03,0
    Italia_Liguria,18.89,20.85,6.57,3.3,19.99,8.12,18. 12,3.21,0.3,0.11,0.05,0.14,0.2,0.04,0.05
    Italia_Emilia_Est,19.61,17.93,6.98,2.85,20.51,7.47 ,19.69,3.92,0.1,0.31,0.01,0,0.36,0.16,0.03
    Italia_Emilia,17.09,22.09,6.51,2.76,20.45,7.88,19. 25,2.66,0.12,0.23,0,0.25,0.56,0.09,0.01
    Italia_Romagna,15.39,19.53,6.06,2.76,20.02,11.42,2 0.81,3.53,0,0.27,0,0.08,0.03,0.06,0
    Italia_Ager_Gallicus,14.31,17.3,6.24,2.66,20.71,11 .7,22.42,3.15,0.29,0.21,0,0.49,0.17,0.32,0
    Italia_Toscana,16.08,19.73,7.22,3.37,20.24,9.46,19 .64,3.33,0.43,0.14,0,0.03,0.08,0.1,0.06
    Italia_Marche,14.58,16.59,6.1,1.66,18.6,12.77,24.2 2,5.27,0.08,0.07,0.02,0.27,0.12,0.13,0.15
    Italia_Umbria,11.81,20.9,4.8,3.84,18.93,11.3,23.12 ,4.06,0.26,0.25,0,0,0.61,0.08,0
    Italia_Lazio,15.38,17.54,5.91,2.24,19.39,11.2,23.6 5,3.75,0.22,0.13,0.08,0.31,0.1,0.14,0.02
    FR_Italia_Corsica,15.68,20.17,4.72,2.02,22.97,7.39 ,22.33,3.9,0.04,0,0.12,0.08,0.41,0.1,0
    Italia_Abruzzo,12.63,15.65,6,2.53,17.25,13.12,26.5 5,5.01,0.11,0.11,0.24,0.12,0.27,0.35,0
    Italia_Campania,10.22,15.97,5.69,1.76,17.24,14.18, 27.95,5.58,0.36,0.18,0.01,0.1,0.08,0.44,0.07
    Italia_Molise,12.64,15.55,4.9,2.66,19.12,13.88,26. 57,4.89,0.12,0.17,0.12,0.21,0.07,0.16,0.03
    Italia_Basilicata,12.9,13.78,5.31,2.62,17.24,14.57 ,26.56,5.49,0.2,0.05,0,0,0.32,0.75,0.16
    Italia_Salento,10.2,15.75,4.62,2.93,18.01,14.06,29 .54,4.33,0,0,0,0.09,0.22,0.16,0
    Italia_Puglia,11.44,13.61,6.71,2.69,17.81,15.01,26 .47,5.1,0.18,0.02,0.01,0.16,0.32,0.3,0.09
    Italia_Calabria,7.3,14.31,5.07,0.88,17.24,16.23,30 .57,6.58,0.11,0.33,0,0.03,0.33,0.72,0.19
    Italia_Sicilia,9.54,14.62,4.97,1.31,18.21,15.22,28 ,5.32,0.08,0.38,0.31,0.17,0.23,1.28,0.48
    MA_Malta,6.412,15.962,4.828,1.31,18.664,13.406,29. 816,5.644,0,0.51,0.108,0,0.286,1.724,1.322
    Italia_Sardegna,8.1,21.38,1.97,0,43.44,1.07,19.54, 3.13,0,0.11,0,0,0.15,0.43,0.04
    Doing the same here. Still not that good.

    Distance to: RegioX(FTDNA)
    6.21478881 Italia_Piemonte
    6.56102888 Italia_Veneto
    7.23834926 Italia_Bergamo
    7.64256501 North_Italian
    7.91932447 Italia_Lombardia
    8.22541792 Italia_Orobia
    8.26630510 Italia_Friuli
    8.59419572 Italia_Insubria
    8.83040769 Italia_Trentino
    9.08970297 Italia_Brescia
    9.14356604 Italia_Ticino
    9.28586022 Spanish_Cataluna
    9.61379738 Spanish_Extremadura
    9.81374546 Spanish_Murcia
    9.83389546 Italia_Liguria
    10.07510298 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    10.08800278 Portuguese
    10.09617749 Spanish_Andalucia
    10.12535431 Italia_Emilia
    10.24367122 Italia_Val_d_Aosta
    10.40860221 Spanish_Valencia
    11.00705228 France-South
    11.05604812 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    11.49385923 Spanish_Galicia
    11.53626456 Italia_Toscana

    Distance to: RegioX(23andMe)
    6.68239478 Italia_Piemonte
    7.13301479 Italia_Veneto
    7.54011273 Italia_Bergamo
    7.97563791 North_Italian
    8.44687516 Italia_Lombardia
    8.68160699 Italia_Orobia
    8.83840483 Italia_Friuli
    9.08593418 Italia_Insubria
    9.24076837 Spanish_Cataluna
    9.40052658 Italia_Trentino
    9.49600442 Italia_Brescia
    9.51460456 Spanish_Extremadura
    9.52685677 Italia_Ticino
    9.71839493 Spanish_Murcia
    9.76026639 Spanish_Andalucia
    9.97705868 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    10.10349444 Spanish_Valencia
    10.14796531 Portuguese
    10.36769502 Italia_Liguria
    10.57442197 Italia_Emilia
    10.66746455 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    10.74822776 Italia_Val_d_Aosta
    11.09341246 France-South
    11.62681384 Spanish_Galicia
    12.00430756 Italia_Toscana

    Distance to: Father(23andMe)
    2.89319892 Italia_Veneto
    3.07436172 Italia_Friuli
    3.92838389 Italia_Trentino
    4.31308474 Italia_Piemonte
    4.83588668 Italia_Lombardia
    5.88045917 Italia_Orobia
    6.03705226 Italia_Liguria
    6.14150633 Italia_Insubria
    6.23081857 North_Italian
    7.01246034 Italia_Bergamo
    7.05277250 Italia_Brescia
    7.23684323 Italia_Ticino
    7.44861732 Italia_Emilia
    7.82681928 Italia_Toscana
    8.31607480 Italia_Emilia_Est
    8.74555316 Italia_Val_d_Aosta
    9.62334661 Albanian-Kosovo
    9.94925123 Italia_Romagna
    10.17740635 Tuscan
    10.62274917 Austria-Tyrol
    10.98721479 Kosovo_Albanian
    11.13799354 Portuguese
    11.45726407 Spanish_Galicia
    11.65253620 South_Serbian
    11.76717919 Montenegrin

    Distance to: Mother(23andMe)
    5.40697697 Italia_Piemonte
    5.64061167 Italia_Trentino
    5.88167493 Italia_Veneto
    6.12929033 Italia_Ticino
    6.92439889 Italia_Lombardia
    7.24220961 Italia_Friuli
    7.34042233 Italia_Val_d_Aosta
    7.78759270 Italia_Insubria
    8.14300927 North_Italian
    8.19030524 Italia_Orobia
    8.20082313 Austria-Tyrol
    8.50304651 Spanish_Galicia
    8.65068783 Portuguese
    8.76280206 Italia_Bergamo
    9.08626436 Spanish_Cataluna
    9.25953563 France-South
    9.37425730 Italia_Liguria
    9.55642716 Italia_Brescia
    9.88733028 Spanish_Extremadura
    10.09185315 French
    10.24220191 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    10.84050737 Spanish_Murcia
    10.88791073 Italia_Emilia
    11.84695742 Italia_Emilia_Est
    11.88732939 Italia_Toscana

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    It seems K13 worked better than K15 for us.
    Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet


    Regio X (FTDNA),35.64,14.28,22.14,9.81,16.50,1.32,0,0,0,0. 31,0,0,0

    Distance to: RegioX(FTDNA)
    4.88753517 Veneto
    5.75650936 Piedmont
    5.89065361 Friuli-VG
    6.01373428 Trentino
    6.14356574 Swiss-Italian
    6.22361631 AostaValley
    7.66760719 Swiss_Italian
    7.91935603 Lombardy
    8.04279802 Liguria
    8.64694166 Emilia
    9.23523145 Swiss_French
    9.87522658 Portuguese
    10.07731611 Tuscany
    10.46031548 Spanish_Cataluna
    10.59506961 Spanish_Extremadura
    11.29241338 Spanish_Galicia
    11.34784120 Spanish_Murcia
    11.43815982 French
    11.65185393 Spanish_Valencia
    11.75326338 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    11.90779996 Spanish_Andalucia
    12.37994346 Swiss_German
    12.85538798 Romagna
    12.89509209 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    12.97232824 Tuscan



    Regio X (23andMe),35.79,13.90,22.51,10.25,15.79,1.38,0.21, 0,0,0.17,0,0,0

    Distance to: RegioX(23andMe)
    5.47916052 Veneto
    5.96602045 AostaValley
    6.18221643 Piedmont
    6.58668354 Swiss-Italian
    6.65508828 Trentino
    6.69911935 Friuli-VG
    8.28356204 Swiss_Italian
    8.32122587 Lombardy
    8.46681758 Liguria
    9.05518636 Emilia
    9.28078122 Swiss_French
    9.77986196 Portuguese
    10.25382855 Spanish_Cataluna
    10.33404567 Spanish_Extremadura
    10.45176062 Tuscany
    11.06583029 Spanish_Galicia
    11.20403945 Spanish_Murcia
    11.36180003 French
    11.51952690 Spanish_Valencia
    11.55589460 Spanish_Andalucia
    11.56891525 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    12.50862103 Swiss_German
    12.54294224 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    13.28441192 Romagna
    13.38760994 Tuscan



    Father (23andMe),30.70,16.33,23.32,9.79,16.68,0.73,2.18,0 ,0,0,0.26,0,0

    Distance to: Father(23andMe)
    4.14387500 Veneto
    5.44103850 Friuli-VG
    5.90366835 Trentino
    6.04591598 Piedmont
    7.27156792 Liguria
    7.32746204 Emilia
    7.77803960 Lombardy
    8.18447310 Tuscany
    8.19824981 Swiss-Italian
    9.65127453 Swiss_Italian
    10.16101865 AostaValley
    10.82294698 North_Macedonian
    10.86650358 Bulgarian_Central
    10.88009651 Romagna
    11.00969416 Kosovo_Albanian
    11.10028828 Swiss_French
    11.31752181 Vlach_North-Macedonia
    11.41458278 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    11.51778625 Tuscan
    11.54571782 Greek_Central-Macedonia
    11.56396126 Bulgarian_Southwest
    11.80932259 Macedonian_Northwest
    11.83933275 Macedonian_East
    12.03518591 Umbria
    12.05106634 Bulgarian_Serres



    Mother (23andMe),34.67,16.28,23.32,8.61,14.65,1.53,0,0,0. 58,0.37,0,0,0

    Distance to: Mother(23andMe)
    4.40568950 Trentino
    4.80165596 Veneto
    5.35870320 Swiss-Italian
    5.38909083 Piedmont
    5.52411984 AostaValley
    5.77187145 Friuli-VG
    7.40777294 Swiss_Italian
    7.52204759 Swiss_French
    8.26922608 Lombardy
    9.01763273 Liguria
    9.47065996 Portuguese
    9.59438899 Emilia
    10.15953247 Spanish_Cataluna
    10.30036407 Spanish_Galicia
    10.44933491 Spanish_Extremadura
    10.67349989 French
    10.94197423 Tuscany
    11.08835876 Swiss_German
    11.36961301 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    11.51716111 Spanish_Murcia
    11.54709487 Spanish_Valencia
    11.99497395 Spanish_Andalucia
    12.64945453 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    13.35860771 Spanish_Cantabria
    14.00106425 Bulgarian_Southwest

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    Regio X (FTDNA),6.85,0,0.83,0,37.94,27.68,0,0,5.67,0,21.03 ,0

    Distance to: RegioX(FTDNA)
    2.39088689 Italy_Piedmont
    2.63399647 Italy_Veneto
    3.16993060 Italy_Trentino
    3.67232386 Swiss_Italian
    4.03821446 Italy_FriuliVG
    4.15184026 Italy_Lombardy
    5.72630462 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    5.90672076 Italy_Liguria
    6.18443134 Italy_Emilia
    7.84163950 Italy_Tuscany
    10.31105232 Italy_Romagna
    11.58057425 Albanian_North
    11.82398410 Albanian_Kosovo
    11.95253346 France_Corsica
    13.44420931 Italy_Lazio
    13.76962302 Italy_Marche
    14.71513507 Baleares
    15.66826729 Galicia
    16.54312546 Extremadura
    17.07581330 French
    17.29189695 Portuguese
    17.36542830 French
    17.87426082 Romanians
    18.53336451 Bulgarians
    18.69441628 Bulgarian


    Regio X (23andMe),6.89,0,0.86,0,37.85,27.39,0,0,5.54,0,21. 47,0

    Distance to: RegioX(23andMe)
    2.24344826 Italy_Piedmont
    2.29503756 Italy_Veneto
    3.54222247 Italy_Trentino
    3.90931932 Italy_Lombardy
    3.92451430 Swiss_Italian
    4.10606576 Italy_FriuliVG
    5.58310040 Italy_Liguria
    5.77220331 Italy_Emilia
    6.17809231 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    7.42188318 Italy_Tuscany
    9.87867400 Italy_Romagna
    11.27978280 Albanian_North
    11.50199113 Albanian_Kosovo
    11.58134776 France_Corsica
    13.02102354 Italy_Lazio
    13.33306409 Italy_Marche
    14.88337327 Baleares
    15.92879782 Galicia
    16.76368098 Extremadura
    17.53226454 Portuguese
    17.56222651 French
    17.78062991 Romanians
    17.85887734 French
    18.37406324 Bulgarians
    18.54359189 Bulgarian


    Father (23andMe),7.92,0,0.69,0,36.48,28.19,0.26,0,6.36,0, 20.09,0

    Distance to: Father(23andMe)
    3.64732724 Italy_FriuliVG
    3.66697697 Italy_Piedmont
    3.99426807 Italy_Veneto
    4.27463683 Italy_Trentino
    5.30620981 Swiss_Italian
    6.02165073 Italy_Lombardy
    6.31809881 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    7.04214926 Italy_Liguria
    7.24383538 Italy_Emilia
    8.69640558 Italy_Tuscany
    10.83715369 Italy_Romagna
    11.46114305 Albanian_North
    11.62113161 Albanian_Kosovo
    13.20788840 France_Corsica
    13.60173790 Italy_Lazio
    14.12788724 Italy_Marche
    15.89862573 Baleares
    16.46931996 Galicia
    16.87346734 French
    17.05845245 French
    17.25683343 Romanians
    17.26528019 Extremadura
    17.89991061 Portuguese
    18.13588432 Bulgarian
    18.24012884 Bulgarians


    Mother (23andMe),5.03,0.21,1.33,0,37.33,29.53,0,0,5.60,0, 20.98,0

    Distance to: Mother(23andMe)
    1.73202771 Italy_Trentino
    2.93848192 Italy_FriuliVG
    2.99785131 Swiss_Italian
    3.07960118 Italy_Veneto
    3.86842346 Italy_Piedmont
    5.34890994 Italy_Lombardy
    5.45672435 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    7.18972532 Italy_Liguria
    7.81619543 Italy_Emilia
    9.33078507 Italy_Tuscany
    11.01143951 Albanian_North
    11.47835790 Italy_Romagna
    11.58492555 Albanian_Kosovo
    13.44245052 France_Corsica
    14.44598609 Italy_Lazio
    14.90839019 Italy_Marche
    15.76217307 Baleares
    16.34925381 Romanians
    16.42503272 Galicia
    16.64098855 French
    16.88928655 French
    17.02857892 Bulgarians
    17.36272156 Bulgarian
    17.55130479 Extremadura
    17.60212487 Bosnian

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    So, neither Eurogenes K13 nor Dodecad K12b are accurate for you. (edit: K15 nor Dodecad K12b)

    Just modern populations for me:
    2.99839957 Emilia
    3.15726147 Tuscany
    3.38475996 Liguria
    3.67819249 Tuscan
    4.30383550 Romagna
    5.21252338 Umbria
    6.16301874 Lombardy
    6.22120567 Marche
    6.24877588 Lazio
    6.80908217 FrenchCorsica
    7.16684031 Veneto
    7.74483053 Piedmont
    8.55386462 Friuli-VG
    9.55260174 Greek_Western-Thrace
    10.37322997 Greek_Central-Macedonia
    10.40681507 Trentino
    10.56576547 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
    10.78628759 Swiss_Italian
    10.85248359 Swiss-Italian
    11.19184971 Albanian
    11.27902035 West_Sicilian
    11.29719134 Kosovo_Albanian
    11.66765186 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    12.33875196 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    12.35486544 Greek_Western-Macedonia


    The cline of northern Italian provinces looks "accurate" to me for my known ancestry, but then Greek areas start to appear, and further on Turkish samples, and the Spanish samples are
    pushed further away. Whether that's "accurate" or not, I don't know.

    .99839957 Emilia
    3.15726147 Tuscany
    3.38475996 Liguria
    3.67819249 Tuscan
    4.30383550 Romagna
    5.21252338 Umbria
    6.16301874 Lombardy
    6.22120567 Marche
    6.24877588 Lazio
    6.80908217 FrenchCorsica
    7.16684031 Veneto
    7.74483053 Piedmont
    8.55386462 Friuli-VG
    9.55260174 Greek_Western-Thrace
    10.37322997 Greek_Central-Macedonia
    10.40681507 Trentino
    10.56576547 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
    10.78628759 Swiss_Italian
    10.85248359 Swiss-Italian
    11.19184971 Albanian
    11.27902035 West_Sicilian
    11.29719134 Kosovo_Albanian
    11.66765186 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    12.33875196 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    12.35486544 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    12.46015249 Abruzzo
    12.67167708 Turk_Alexandroupoli
    12.72158795 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    12.80389394 Greek_Thessaly
    13.07666624 Vlach_North-Macedonia
    13.20890916 North_Macedonian
    13.28875464 Basilicata
    13.29574368 Molise
    13.36336784 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    13.58006259 Turk_Kazanlik
    13.74839991 Macedonian_East
    13.87101294 Greek_Peloponnese
    13.87630715 Bulgarian_Southwest
    13.93366427 Bulgarian_Central
    13.99984821 GR_Peloponese
    14.24799284 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
    14.33496425 Apulia
    14.46980995 Turk_Kavala
    14.60548869 Greek_Thessaloniki
    14.72815331 Portuguese
    14.76043021 Bulgarian_Serres
    14.82099524 Spanish_Extremadura
    15.13495953 Greek_Andros_Island
    15.21457854 Macedonian_Southeast
    15.46256447 Turk_Thessaloniki

    Regio's results still have the Iberians pretty close. So, am I different because I'm half "Tuscan life"?

    Distance to:RegioX(23andMe)
    5.47916052Veneto
    5.96602045AostaValley
    6.18221643Piedmont
    6.58668354Swiss-Italian
    6.65508828Trentino
    6.69911935FriuliVG
    8.28356204Swiss_Italian
    8.32122587Lombardy
    8.46681758Liguria
    Emilia9.28078122
    Swiss_French
    9.77986196Portuguese
    Spanish_Cataluna10.25382855
    10.33404567Spanish_Extremadura
    10.45176062Tuscany
    11.06583029
    Spanish_Galicia11.20403945
    Spanish_Murcia11.36180003
    French11.51952690
    Spanish_Valencia11.55589460
    Spanish_Andalucia11.56891525
    Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon12.50862103
    Swiss_German12.54294224
    Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    13.28441192Romagna
    13.38760994Tuscan

    Anyone have any details on the Turkish samples which are showing up?


    K13 Ancient is weighted to Szolad and Collegno, and as a result I'm much further away from the Scythians, and Illyrians don't show up at all.

    Does anyone have an updated list of ancient samples which includes samples from, say, Antionio et al, which don't yet appear in the K13 ancient?
    3.23024767 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    3.92136456 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
    4.61476977 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    5.48877035 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    5.52075176 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard
    6.08428303 I7424_morisco
    6.61990936 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
    6.84388778 I7424_morisco2
    7.73375717 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
    9.37121123 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    9.81173787 CL23_collegno_italy_longobard
    9.93161115 I12647_iberia2
    9.96091361 I12647_iberia
    10.26733169 CrusaderSI41KingdomofJerusalem
    10.48618138 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
    10.51419517 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2
    10.54139459 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1
    10.57125820 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
    10.67171964 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
    10.70753006 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.82380709 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
    11.21984848 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
    12.17064912 SZ19_szolad_hungary_longobard
    12.52218032 I12516_iberia
    12.74365332 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
    12.89520454 CL49_collegno_italy_longobard
    13.44571679 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    13.49187904 I12644_Muslim_Iberian_1100_1300_CE2
    13.63865463 SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard
    13.74177208 I3807_morisco
    13.81188619 I3807_morisco
    14.21938466 I10865_iberia
    14.24593275 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    14.41144337 I12649_low_quality
    14.74637244 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
    14.90830306 CL94_collegno_italy_longobard


    K15 original

    Now, the first two principal components are correct in the sense I'm half Tuscan and half Emilian. The distance is further. Does that mean it's wrong? No Turks show up, although I think they have the standard Turkish samples. So, where did the Turkish samples come from which appear in K13? What is the link to the academic paper? Until I see it, I'm not sure what it means.

    4.46072864 Tuscan
    6.50442926 North_Italian
    11.25741978 Italian_Abruzzo
    11.25753970 West_Sicilian
    12.44466151 Greek_Thessaly
    12.91083653 Greek
    14.44350719 Spanish_Extremadura
    14.50931425 Spanish_Murcia
    14.59778750 Portuguese
    14.77803099 East_Sicilian
    14.87212157 Bulgarian
    14.89837239 Central_Greek
    15.09966225 Spanish_Andalucia
    15.63734632 Spanish_Cataluna
    15.66968730 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    15.70986951 Romanian
    15.76791045 Spanish_Galicia
    16.20131476 Spanish_Valencia
    16.66465421 South_Italian
    16.86759023 Ashkenazi
    17.51915238 Serbian
    17.54667490 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    19.56798661 Spanish_Aragon
    19.65718952 French
    19.68681792 Spanish_Cantabria


    The K15 updated looks "reasonable" to me:
    3.86931518 Italy_Tuscany
    4.23288318 Italy_Emiliaromagna
    4.25635995 Italy_Liguria
    4.46072864 Tuscan
    6.50442926 North_Italian
    6.55881849 Italy_Lazio
    6.83303007 Italy_Marche
    7.39247590 Italy_Lombardy
    7.49916662 France_Corsica
    8.00542941 Italy_Friuli
    8.40202357 Italy_Veneto
    8.93296703 Albanian-Kosovo
    9.44547922 Kosovo_Albanian
    9.53782470 Albanian-Macedonia
    9.78762484 Albanian-South
    9.82057534 Albanian-North
    10.17207452 Italy_Piedmont
    10.84424732 Italy_Trentino
    11.25753970 West_Sicilian
    12.44466151 Greek_Thessaly
    12.56755744 Macedonian_2
    12.64764850 GR_Peloponese
    12.91083653 Greek
    13.21623623 Italy_Abruzzo
    13.88518275 Italy_Apulia
    14.44350719 Spanish_Extremadura
    14.50931425 Spanish_Murcia
    14.59778750 Portuguese
    14.77803099 East_Sicilian
    14.89837239 Central_Greek
    15.00283871 Macedonian
    15.09966225 Spanish_Andalucia
    15.14184636 GR_Macedonia
    15.32820603 Romania_South
    15.40187976 Bulgarian
    15.46748848 Bulgarian_Thracian
    15.63734632 Spanish_Cataluna
    15.66968730 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    15.68404285 Italy_Aostavalley
    15.70986951 Romanian
    15.71087203 Italy_Central_Sicily
    15.74158188 Italy_Campania
    15.76791045 Spanish_Galicia
    16.06202353 Gagauz
    16.07739737 Montenegrin
    16.13829917 South_Serbian
    16.20131476 Spanish_Valencia
    16.31845275 Romania_Sw
    16.35921453 Italy_West_Sicily
    16.66465421 South_Italian

    K15 ancient-I don't think this includes some of the new samples
    6.59585476 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    9.97415661 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    10.52466151 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
    10.83707525 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
    11.64466831 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
    11.90834581 BronzAgeBalkan
    13.03677107 Vucedol_I3499
    13.34351903 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    14.91996984 Bavaria_STR310
    14.99525258 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    14.99546598 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    15.06043824 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    15.46276819 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    15.83683996 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
    16.19309729 IA_Ardea_R851
    16.26327458 IronAgeBalkan
    17.46251414 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
    18.36019063 MedievalHungarian_DA199
    18.44684797 Scythian_SCY311
    18.71971421 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
    19.49851789 Mycenaean_I9041
    21.14828835 BR2_Hungary
    21.92221248 NorthItalian_HGDP01171
    23.55316115 IA_Ardea_R850
    24.14315845 Crimean_Goth_KER1
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    I think that some of these Turkish samples, like the one from Kavala and Alexandroupoli, have been added by Apricity user Kaspias. They are not from academic sources afaik, but from his own personal collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dosas View Post
    I think that some of these Turkish samples, like the one from Kavala and Alexandroupoli, have been added by Apricity user Kaspias. They are not from academic sources afaik, but from his own personal collection.
    Oh, that's just great.

    How do I know who he is? How do I know the samples are legit? They might be, or they might not be. There's no way of checking.

    No thanks, people.

    Only academic samples should be in these calculators. Lukas should remove them and any other "individual or private" samples which were submitted. It's not like there aren't academic samples available.

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    @Angela
    This random combination between my parents generated a Piedmontese basically. lol In K15, this similarity to Piedmontese is likely related to my very high Atlantic %. I guess it also explains my odd "Western" % in myOrigins (British + Iberian) and NW in other calculators such MyHeritage and the old DNALand. 23andMe is the only one that "filters" it well.
    Anyway, apparently K15 is even worst than K13 for me. At least K13 understands I'm NE Italian in ancestry, while K12b gets for example that I'm closer to Tuscans than to Iberians, which seems correct. K36's "Oracle" (similarity map) also puts me closer to Tuscans than to Iberians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Great work, Jovialis :)

    New samples of Iberians and Bell Beaker France:
    BronzeAgeSpainCogotas_I12208,1.39,0.00,5.31,0.43,5 4.53,22.97,1.16,0.00,3.96,0.94,8.35,0.95
    VasconesTribeVasconia_I3758,3.58,0.82,1.72,0.00,48 .92,32.83,0.00,0.00,2.47,0.00,8.72,0.94
    VisigothGermanicGirona_I12163,7.57,0.24,0.32,0.77, 34.32,39.43,0.00,0.00,3.75,0.12,12.64,0.83
    VasconesTribeVasconia_I3759,2.22,0.00,1.44,1.17,52 .23,30.07,0.00,0.00,2.58,0.05,8.61,1.63
    BasqueCarolingian_I3777,8.28,0.90,0.00,0.00,44.20, 32.10,0.11,0.30,5.29,0.50,8.25,0.08
    BellBeakerFrance_I1388,0.00,0.00,2.30,0.00,59.39,2 1.76,0.81,0.00,7.46,0.00,8.28,0.00
    IlergetesTribeCatalan_I3320,4.64,0.00,4.88,1.09,52 .24,25.19,0.00,0.00,3.67,0.00,7.44,0.86
    IlercavonesCatalan_I3321,3.80,0.00,4.55,0.00,55.48 ,25.14,0.00,0.83,2.20,0.32,7.68,0.00
    BellBeakerSouthernFrance_I3874,5.77,0.32,0.81,0.47 ,39.46,40.05,1.07,0.56,0.80,0.00,10.47,0.22
    IberianElArgarBronzeAge_I8136,0.00,0.00,4.83,0.00, 61.85,21.67,1.21,0.00,3.88,0.00,6.07,0.49
    Would it be possible, by any chance, to have more French samples, especially by region? I'm clueless about all of this, so I can't do it myself but if someone is interested (apart from me) that would be great. My results are inaccurate due to the lack of French samples, I think. This is really annoying. Do such samples exist and are they available, to begin with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TardisBlue View Post
    Would it be possible, by any chance, to have more French samples, especially by region? I'm clueless about all of this, so I can't do it myself but if someone is interested (apart from me) that would be great. My results are inaccurate due to the lack of French samples, I think. This is really annoying. Do such samples exist and are they available, to begin with?
    I'd like to see that too. I know the southwest French sample is available, but I don't know about any others, although papers have been published which use French samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Well, Iberians aren't getting the "Balkan/Greek" part of the spectrum, so it makes sense as we know the Philistines were probably of Aegean origin and/or Sardinian/Southern Italian.

    Even as a North/Central Italian who never gets Greek Islanders they're extremely far from me, although there seems to be variation. Perhaps they were already partly admixed with locals?

    17.27458827 ASH068_Iron_Age1
    32.23829400 ASH067_Iron_Age1
    39.09207720 ASH066_Iron_Age1
    40.66160597 ASH029_Late_Bronze_Age
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    IIRC the authors of that paper claimed the Iron Age Philistines of Ashkelon were already ~53% BA Levantine in ancestry, so there was extensive mixing, indeed.

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    39.18881856 Minoan_Lasithi_I0074
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    Target Distance Ancient_Australian Armenia_EBA Iran_Chalcolithic Iran_Mesolithic Levant_BA Minoan_Lasithi_I0070 Minoan_Odigitria_I9129 Satsurblia_CHG
    Das 0.55652660 1.4 3.6 17.6 5.4 34.0 25.6 0.8 11.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by TardisBlue View Post
    Would it be possible, by any chance, to have more French samples, especially by region? I'm clueless about all of this, so I can't do it myself but if someone is interested (apart from me) that would be great. My results are inaccurate due to the lack of French samples, I think. This is really annoying. Do such samples exist and are they available, to begin with?
    Hello @TardisBlue, Good morning.
    I have some matches with MTA's French samples, but the research I did on the papers did not allow me to get convertible BAM files through "WGS Extract". I'm sorry.

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    More samples to help develop Vahaduo Dodecad K12b Ancient

    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB9783:
    IberiaBronzeAge_ATP9,0.89,0.00,1.25,0.00,58.14,21. 43,0.49,0.00,4.69,0.00,11.18,1.93

    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB23079:
    Roman-SoldierFN_2,2.95,0.31,3.26,0.82,42.88,29.21,0.00,0 .00,3.24,0.45,14.20,2.69
    AlemannicBavariaBIM_33,7.02,0.51,3.61,0.00,30.37,4 2.59,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,15.58,0.24
    ThuringiiTribeAED_1108,4.91,9.67,0.04,2.07,12.54,2 7.54,0.18,0.00,9.11,12.08,20.97,1.06

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    PhilistinesASH2-3_Iron_Age1,4.96,0,12.41,0,10.20,0,4.20,0,1.89,0,6 6.34,0
    PhilistinesASH008_Iron_Age2,10.84,0,4.00,0,11.39,0 ,0,0.63,29.23,0,43.90,0
    PhilistinesASH029_Late_Bronze_Age,8.31,0,9.61,0,12 .28,6.19,0,0,27.92,0,35.69,0
    PhilistinesASH033_Late_Bronze_Age,5.83,0,4.07,0,10 .30,3.87,0,0,28.76,0,47.17,0
    PhilistinesASH034_Late_Bronze_Age,10.82,0,3.64,0.6 6,14.01,0,0,0.84,25.02,0,45.01,0
    PhilistinesASH066_Iron_Age1,9.21,0,7.83,0,15.39,0, 5.06,0.07,22.99,0.97,37.59,0.90
    PhilistinesASH067_Iron_Age1,9.18,0,3.02,0,23.86,2. 30,0,0,19.31,0,42.33,0
    PhilistinesASH068_Iron_Age1,0,0,0,1.65,39.53,8.59, 0,0.65,14.61,0,34.97,0
    PhilistinesASH087_Iron_Age2,5.64,1.37,3.88,0,12.66 ,0,0,2.67,32.15,0,41.63,0
    PhilistinesASH135_Iron_Age2,5.14,0,17.24,0.39,6.20 ,6.72,0,3.35,27.59,0,33.18,0.18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Oh, that's just great.

    How do I know who he is? How do I know the samples are legit? They might be, or they might not be. There's no way of checking.

    No thanks, people.

    Only academic samples should be in these calculators. Lukas should remove them and any other "individual or private" samples which were submitted. It's not like there aren't academic samples available.
    They are probably not legit, at least not in the academic sense, where samples are traced through fact checked geneologies.

    Plus, a lot of posters on that website push openly certain agendas so their motives are not transparent or open to peer-review scrutiny like samples in academic papers are.

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    Genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28783727
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB20914

    Code:
    I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave,0,0,2.55,1.31,44.77,0,0,0,12.74,0,36.69,1.95
    I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete,0.49,0,3.07,0,37.80,0.67,0,0,13.01,0,44.93,0.03
    I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete,0,0,1.28,0.51,37.14,0,0,0,15.36,0,45.71,0
    I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete,0,0,3.39,0.38,35.55,0,0,0,13.26,0,47.43,0
    I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete,0.41,0,4.34,0,39.06,0,0,0,12.70,0,43.49,0
    I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete,1.52,0,5.68,0,37.33,0,0,0,16.14,0,39.25,0.08
    I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis,4.14,0,1.89,0,36.48,4.77,0,0,8.08,1.19,43.45,0
    I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete,6.11,0,2.47,0,40.07,15.84,0,0,9.79,0.87,24.86,0
    I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete,0,0,0,0,40.48,0,0,0,4.75,0,54.78,0
    I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete,3.72,0.51,3.62,0,53.24,0,0,0,14.12,2.88,21.92,0
    I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete,0,0,6.66,0,43.44,0,0,0,11.86,0,37.93,0
    I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete,1.10,0,0,0,43.10,0,0,0,17.55,0,38.25,0
    I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete,4.59,0,0,0,33.89,0,0,0,19.71,0,41.08,0.73
    I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese,0,0,3.52,1.43,38.53,7.73,0,0.65,13.96,0,34.19,0
    I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese,1.33,1.22,3.40,0,40.19,9.10,0.52,0,7.58,0.48,33.22,2.96
    I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese,2.87,0,2.57,0,37.48,8.67,0,0.36,10.29,0,37.52,0.24
    I2495_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta,6.79,0,1.92,1.07,27.17,4.07,0,0,14.65,0,42.98,1.35
    I2499_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta,9.21,0,0.11,0.47,27.71,4.33,0,0.81,12.84,0,44.53,0
    I2683_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta,9.16,0.07,1.74,0.67,24.77,1.32,0,0,14.88,0,45.56,1.81

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans

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    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB20914

    I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave,0,0,2 .55,1.31,44.77,0,0,0,12.74,0,36.69,1.95
    I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_La sithi_Crete,0.49,0,3.07,0,37.80,0.67,0,0,13.01,0,4 4.93,0.03
    I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_La sithi_Crete,0,0,1.28,0.51,37.14,0,0,0,15.36,0,45.7 1,0
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    I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_La sithi_Crete,0.41,0,4.34,0,39.06,0,0,0,12.70,0,43.4 9,0
    I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_La sithi_Crete,1.52,0,5.68,0,37.33,0,0,0,16.14,0,39.2 5,0.08
    I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis,4. 14,0,1.89,0,36.48,4.77,0,0,8.08,1.19,43.45,0
    I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete,6.11,0,2.47,0,40.07 ,15.84,0,0,9.79,0.87,24.86,0
    I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_C rete,0,0,0,0,40.48,0,0,0,4.75,0,54.78,0
    I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_C rete,3.72,0.51,3.62,0,53.24,0,0,0,14.12,2.88,21.92 ,0
    I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_C rete,0,0,6.66,0,43.44,0,0,0,11.86,0,37.93,0
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    I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_C rete,4.59,0,0,0,33.89,0,0,0,19.71,0,41.08,0.73
    I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Pelopo nnese,0,0,3.52,1.43,38.53,7.73,0,0.65,13.96,0,34.1 9,0
    I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Pel oponnese,1.33,1.22,3.40,0,40.19,9.10,0.52,0,7.58,0 .48,33.22,2.96
    I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Pelopo nnese,2.87,0,2.57,0,37.48,8.67,0,0.36,10.29,0,37.5 2,0.24
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