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    Quote Originally Posted by New Englander View Post
    Well other than the Colonial Canadian ancestry what is so strange? Seems like Greek islander with a Norther Italian influence in correlation to Campania, and the Jewish ancestry is grouped with some of the Eastern med ancestry in Italians and coming out purly east med, with the rest being Western Europe and some noise due to being mixed.
    What is different is that I haven't seen an Italian result yet that includes a big percentage of Lebanese Druze, which does appear in yours, and at 20%, and that includes people from far southern Italy.

    Nothing wrong with having Jewish ancestry, goodness knows.

    Stop t-rolling. The days for that are over.


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    for what it is worth

    modern italians as per an italian site

    I have no comment on this,................

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    for what it is worth
    modern italians as per an italian site
    I have no comment on this,................
    What is the calculator made with this? I assume eurogenes g25?
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    Oh no I'm not. If anything I'm seeing this showing alot of Roman ancestry if you take out the Druz stuff. Especially given I'm U152 but from The Mountains outside Naples. I thought you were getting at the heavy Adriatic ancestry but I think that's just Roman and the fact Albania is 50 miles or so from the Italian mainland I'm sure it has been a gateway for centeries. I'm not saying they were abreshe, but IDB sharing points to a ancient origin and I think there were communities in the Mountains of Southern Italy that were isolated for a long time.

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    I'm not sure how the black death would have changed the coastal population opposed to the ones in the hills. Of course after seeing the map above, its is showing Avellino to be intermediate between Naples and Bari which would make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    What is the calculator made with this? I assume eurogenes g25?
    I think it is K15

    based on Grugni 2018 paper

    and this regional data

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    The Black Death hit the coastal populations first originally because it spread by sea. The first victims were passengers on ships from the Crimea and the ships stopped at ports along the way before going back to Genova. Others ships went to Venezia. Either way, some of them stopped first in Constantinople, Messina etc. The plague was brought to the Crimea by the Mongols. I've seen speculation it was picked up from steppe rodents like marmots.

    The perhaps apocryphal story is that during the siege, the Mongols tossed the bodies of infected people into the European fortresses. By catapult, maybe? If true, that's a much more potent weapon than anything man made.


    That doesn't "necessarily" mean that's where it hit hardest. Fivizzano in the Lunigiana, up in the mountains, lost 90% of its inhabitants, which is some kind of record. It had the misfortune to be on one of the trade routes from the Italian coastal cities up and over the mountains at the crossings and then on to the Po Plain.



    Whether you got it depended on a combination of exposure and natural immunities or lack thereof. The best thing to do was to isolate yourself, as Boccaccio recounts in "The Decameron". Eat, drink, and tell stories, and don't let anyone sick come inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    for what it is worth

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    I have no comment on this,................

    It looks reasonable for my areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I think it is K15

    based on Grugni 2018 paper

    and this regional data
    This is also based on K15:


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    Bolded are new coordinates for Dodecad K12b; more to come:

    IA_Latin_Ardea_R850,7.30,0,4.52,1.08,21.26,10.54,0 ,0.43,14.77,0,40.10,0
    IA_Latin_Ardea_R851,1.59,0,1.39,0,49.28,24.97,0,0. 14,1.93,0,20.26,0.45
    IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435,4.84,0.64,0.65 ,0,47.12,28.54,0.15,0,4.13,0,13.40,0.53
    IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437,6.45,0,3.03,0,33 .19,11.94,0,0,11.63,0,33.74,0.02
    IA_Civitavecchia_R475,0,0,13.01,0,38.12,12.14,0.37 ,1.98,11.26,0,22.70,0.42
    IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015,1.56,0.19,2.85,0,47 .15,21.66,0,0,5.46,0,20.85,0
    IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1,5.02,1.78,1.33, 0,35.08,26.46,0,0,5.43,0,24.50,0.40
    IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016,3.86,0.98,1.53,0.19,47.2 3,20.37,1.43,0,3.31,0,21.10,0
    IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021,2.11,0,1.96,0.60,47.70,24. 04,0,0,1.33,0,22.26,0
    IA_Civitavecchia_R474,7.18,0.17,2.38,0,39.08,25.74 ,0,0,5.98,0,18.84,0.66
    IA_Civitavecchia_R473,1.01,0,0.68,0.15,47.26,22.79 ,0,0.21,7.39,0.21,20.17,0.34
    MA_Villa_Magna_R60,6.75,0.68,3.35,0,27.36,18.94,0, 1.54,11.04,0,30.34,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R65,7.61,0,2.22,0.30,28.15,13.40,0, 0,12.74,0,35.20,0.38
    MA_Villa_Magna_R57,6.89,0,2.97,0.58,27.50,15.59,0, 0,0.58,0,34.62,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R59,4.24,0,2.25,0.19,28.74,15.80,0. 31,0,12.53,0.66,34.39,0.88
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970,9.25,0,5.12,0.53,29. 32,18.41,0,0,7.11,0,30.25,0.01
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973,8.17,0.16,2.94,0,28. 76,15.28,0,0,10.56,0.15,33.57,0.40
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969,6.45,0.25,0.99,0,30. 40,17.81,0.65,1.10,11.67,0,30.67,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R1290,6.30,0,1.09,0.34,30.16,15.96, 0.27,0,12.04,0.09,32.81,0.93
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548,10.45,0,1.98,0,23.44,1 0.87,0,0.17,13.89,0,39.20,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549,9.97,0,3.98,0.04,27.49 ,20.49,0,0.96,10.94,0.05,26.09,0
    Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836,8.69,0,0.99,0,30.9 5,15.55,0,0,10.40,0,33.42,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121,7.68,0,2.81,0, 29.21,18.18,0,0.90,11.76,0,29.47,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118,7.28,0.85,1.85 ,0,34.72,14.81,0,0,11.95,0,28.29,0.24
    LA_Celio_R36,7.23,0,3.17,0,32.85,20.10,0,0.35,9.77 ,0,26.50,0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Bolded are new coordinates for Dodecad K12b; more to come:

    IA_Latin_Ardea_R850,7.30,0,4.52,1.08,21.26,10.54,0 ,0.43,14.77,0,40.10,0
    IA_Latin_Ardea_R851,1.59,0,1.39,0,49.28,24.97,0,0. 14,1.93,0,20.26,0.45
    IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435,4.84,0.64,0.65 ,0,47.12,28.54,0.15,0,4.13,0,13.40,0.53
    IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437,6.45,0,3.03,0,33 .19,11.94,0,0,11.63,0,33.74,0.02
    IA_Civitavecchia_R475,0,0,13.01,0,38.12,12.14,0.37 ,1.98,11.26,0,22.70,0.42
    IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015,1.56,0.19,2.85,0,47 .15,21.66,0,0,5.46,0,20.85,0
    IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1,5.02,1.78,1.33, 0,35.08,26.46,0,0,5.43,0,24.50,0.40
    IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016,3.86,0.98,1.53,0.19,47.2 3,20.37,1.43,0,3.31,0,21.10,0
    IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021,2.11,0,1.96,0.60,47.70,24. 04,0,0,1.33,0,22.26,0
    IA_Civitavecchia_R474,7.18,0.17,2.38,0,39.08,25.74 ,0,0,5.98,0,18.84,0.66
    IA_Civitavecchia_R473,1.01,0,0.68,0.15,47.26,22.79 ,0,0.21,7.39,0.21,20.17,0.34
    MA_Villa_Magna_R60,6.75,0.68,3.35,0,27.36,18.94,0, 1.54,11.04,0,30.34,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R65,7.61,0,2.22,0.30,28.15,13.40,0, 0,12.74,0,35.20,0.38
    MA_Villa_Magna_R57,6.89,0,2.97,0.58,27.50,15.59,0, 0,0.58,0,34.62,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R59,4.24,0,2.25,0.19,28.74,15.80,0. 31,0,12.53,0.66,34.39,0.88
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970,9.25,0,5.12,0.53,29. 32,18.41,0,0,7.11,0,30.25,0.01
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973,8.17,0.16,2.94,0,28. 76,15.28,0,0,10.56,0.15,33.57,0.40
    MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969,6.45,0.25,0.99,0,30. 40,17.81,0.65,1.10,11.67,0,30.67,0
    MA_Villa_Magna_R1290,6.30,0,1.09,0.34,30.16,15.96, 0.27,0,12.04,0.09,32.81,0.93
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548,10.45,0,1.98,0,23.44,1 0.87,0,0.17,13.89,0,39.20,0
    Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549,9.97,0,3.98,0.04,27.49 ,20.49,0,0.96,10.94,0.05,26.09,0
    Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836,8.69,0,0.99,0,30.9 5,15.55,0,0,10.40,0,33.42,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121,7.68,0,2.81,0, 29.21,18.18,0,0.90,11.76,0,29.47,0
    LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118,7.28,0.85,1.85 ,0,34.72,14.81,0,0,11.95,0,28.29,0.24
    LA_Celio_R36,7.23,0,3.17,0,32.85,20.10,0,0.35,9.77 ,0,26.50,0.02
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    The Black Death hit the coastal populations first originally because it spread by sea. The first victims were passengers on ships from the Crimea and the ships stopped at ports along the way before going back to Genova. Others ships went to Venezia. Either way, some of them stopped first in Constantinople, Messina etc. The plague was brought to the Crimea by the Mongols. I've seen speculation it was picked up from steppe rodents like marmots.

    The perhaps apocryphal story is that during the siege, the Mongols tossed the bodies of infected people into the European fortresses. By catapult, maybe? If true, that's a much more potent weapon than anything man made.


    That doesn't "necessarily" mean that's where it hit hardest. Fivizzano in the Lunigiana, up in the mountains, lost 90% of its inhabitants, which is some kind of record. It had the misfortune to be on one of the trade routes from the Italian coastal cities up and over the mountains at the crossings and then on to the Po Plain.



    Whether you got it depended on a combination of exposure and natural immunities or lack thereof. The best thing to do was to isolate yourself, as Boccaccio recounts in "The Decameron". Eat, drink, and tell stories, and don't let anyone sick come inside.
    Tana was the Venetian town ( now Azov ) and Kaffa the Genoese town

    Messina was only visited by Genoese as Venetians went to their town of Corfu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    This is also based on K15:

    so are you saying ...the bottom pca is based on the data above ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I think it is K15
    based on Grugni 2018 paper
    and this regional data
    Curiously, I get higher Atlantic than all in this sheet, and more West Asian than all North Italians except Romagna. This high Atlantic % of mine must be related to certain overfits also in FTDNA, MyHeritage and the old DNA Land, while 23andMe does a better job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    so are you saying ...the bottom pca is based on the data above ?
    If it is indeed, k15, than yes. I need to verify that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    If it is indeed, k15, than yes. I need to verify that.
    Even so, the PCA I posted does look incompatible with the academic PCAs in many regards. Eurogenes isn't good for Southern Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I think it is K15

    based on Grugni 2018 paper

    and this regional data
    Here are the K15 values added to vahaduo, courtesy of mlukas. They are in order according to how gedmatch shows them, separated by commas. They are the ones I used for the PCA I composed:

    Italy_Aostavalley,26.62,25.03,7.48,4.39,17.71,6.75 ,9.38,1.80,0.00,0.02,0.17,0.19,0.14,0.15,0.16
    Italy_Piedmont,21.38,25.13,7.86,4.01,19.32,6.70,12 .69,2.19,0.11,0.01,0.06,0.12,0.24,0.13,0.03
    Italy_Trentino,21.92,21.72,11.28,5.55,18.46,5.83,1 3.09,1.32,0.00,0.03,0.11,0.16,0.47,0.06,0.00
    Italy_Abruzzo,11.25,15.03,6.36,2.91,16.39,15.65,26 .38,5.48,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.17,0.07
    Italy_Apulia,9.50,14.93,6.66,2.94,17.44,14.90,27.2 4,4.99,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.18,0.58,0.55,0.01
    Italy_Calabria,8.07,12.92,4.55,1.98,17.48,15.12,31 .66,6.46,0.13,0.11,0.04,0.09,0.36,0.97,0.07
    Italy_Campania,8.83,15.10,5.33,2.06,18.31,14.96,29 .68,5.57,0.12,0.14,0.04,0.06,0.13,0.56,0.08
    Italy_Central_Sicily,8.94,14.64,4.78,1.31,17.60,14 .12,29.14,6.68,0.05,0.15,0.03,0.14,0.20,1.84,0.36
    Italy_East_Sicily,8.07,12.81,4.41,1.82,18.07,15.44 ,30.59,6.26,0.22,0.18,0.13,0.07,0.23,1.20,0.48
    Italy_West_Sicily,9.37,13.38,4.79,1.71,18.12,13.93 ,30.01,5.89,0.32,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.21,0.98,0.85
    Italy_Emiliaromagna,17.94,19.13,7.04,3.17,20.08,8. 91,19.65,3.29,0.03,0.12,0.00,0.04,0.29,0.15,0.02
    Italy_Friuli,19.00,21.50,10.42,6.03,17.50,7.38,14. 76,2.41,0.28,0.15,0.02,0.34,0.06,0.13,0.00
    Italy_Lazio,15.18,17.36,7.06,2.43,19.99,9.92,23.83 ,3.74,0.07,0.14,0.03,0.10,0.03,0.05,0.09
    Italy_Liguria,18.23,21.71,6.84,3.24,20.21,7.98,17. 82,3.03,0.11,0.17,0.07,0.23,0.24,0.03,0.08
    Italy_Lombardy,21.50,22.45,6.34,2.73,20.71,6.38,16 .91,2.27,0.11,0.21,0.08,0.06,0.16,0.07,0.00
    Italy_Marche,15.34,17.26,5.97,2.22,19.56,11.73,22. 54,4.32,0.21,0.10,0.00,0.37,0.10,0.27,0.07
    Italy_Tuscany,17.25,20.05,6.52,2.79,20.41,9.07,19. 20,3.54,0.57,0.25,0.02,0.06,0.14,0.08,0.02
    Italy_Veneto,21.07,21.37,8.50,5.45,18.65,7.15,14.6 9,2.42,0.14,0.18,0.05,0.08,0.15,0.09,0.00
    Italian_Jewish,8.10,12.62,2.23,1.13,17.84,12.08,33 .85,8.25,0.07,0.65,0.21,0.08,0.75,2.14,0.01

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    This is also based on K15:

    The PCA from the body of the Antonio et al (Moots) paper is indeed a bit different. The R850 isn't quite as "southern", and the Etruscans and more Etruscan like Latins are shifted over a bit so they are sort of "in between" Spain and Northern Italy?



    Anyway, thanks for the update on the samples.

    This is my updated Dodecad K12b...
    3.80336693 TSI30
    5.63808478 Tuscan
    5.91498943 North_Italian
    6.22841874 N_Italian
    8.70606685 O_Italian
    8.92554760 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
    9.07843048 C_Italian
    9.47641282 IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
    9.74779462 LA_Celio_R36
    9.81848257 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    10.57665354 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
    10.65957316 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118
    10.77751827 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
    10.82190833 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
    12.90000388 IA_Latin_Ardea_R851
    13.22874522 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R969
    13.51517665 MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970
    14.11183546 LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121
    14.21805894 Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836
    14.37636254 IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    14.41470083 Albanian_Kosovo
    14.62978127 MA_Villa_Magna_R1290
    14.72641504 Albanian_North
    15.48640694 MA_Villa_Magna_R60
    15.65395797 Baleares

    Maybe it didn't really change because the Imperial samples are even further away for me? I do get a few Late Antiquity and quite a few from the Middle Ages.

    Thanks so much for all this work, Jovialis. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Here are the K15 values added to vahaduo, courtesy of mlukas. They are in order according to how gedmatch shows them, separated by commas. They are the ones I used for the PCA I composed:

    Italy_Aostavalley,26.62,25.03,7.48,4.39,17.71,6.75 ,9.38,1.80,0.00,0.02,0.17,0.19,0.14,0.15,0.16
    Italy_Piedmont,21.38,25.13,7.86,4.01,19.32,6.70,12 .69,2.19,0.11,0.01,0.06,0.12,0.24,0.13,0.03
    Italy_Trentino,21.92,21.72,11.28,5.55,18.46,5.83,1 3.09,1.32,0.00,0.03,0.11,0.16,0.47,0.06,0.00
    Italy_Abruzzo,11.25,15.03,6.36,2.91,16.39,15.65,26 .38,5.48,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.17,0.07
    Italy_Apulia,9.50,14.93,6.66,2.94,17.44,14.90,27.2 4,4.99,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.18,0.58,0.55,0.01
    Italy_Calabria,8.07,12.92,4.55,1.98,17.48,15.12,31 .66,6.46,0.13,0.11,0.04,0.09,0.36,0.97,0.07
    Italy_Campania,8.83,15.10,5.33,2.06,18.31,14.96,29 .68,5.57,0.12,0.14,0.04,0.06,0.13,0.56,0.08
    Italy_Central_Sicily,8.94,14.64,4.78,1.31,17.60,14 .12,29.14,6.68,0.05,0.15,0.03,0.14,0.20,1.84,0.36
    Italy_East_Sicily,8.07,12.81,4.41,1.82,18.07,15.44 ,30.59,6.26,0.22,0.18,0.13,0.07,0.23,1.20,0.48
    Italy_West_Sicily,9.37,13.38,4.79,1.71,18.12,13.93 ,30.01,5.89,0.32,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.21,0.98,0.85
    Italy_Emiliaromagna,17.94,19.13,7.04,3.17,20.08,8. 91,19.65,3.29,0.03,0.12,0.00,0.04,0.29,0.15,0.02
    Italy_Friuli,19.00,21.50,10.42,6.03,17.50,7.38,14. 76,2.41,0.28,0.15,0.02,0.34,0.06,0.13,0.00
    Italy_Lazio,15.18,17.36,7.06,2.43,19.99,9.92,23.83 ,3.74,0.07,0.14,0.03,0.10,0.03,0.05,0.09
    Italy_Liguria,18.23,21.71,6.84,3.24,20.21,7.98,17. 82,3.03,0.11,0.17,0.07,0.23,0.24,0.03,0.08
    Italy_Lombardy,21.50,22.45,6.34,2.73,20.71,6.38,16 .91,2.27,0.11,0.21,0.08,0.06,0.16,0.07,0.00
    Italy_Marche,15.34,17.26,5.97,2.22,19.56,11.73,22. 54,4.32,0.21,0.10,0.00,0.37,0.10,0.27,0.07
    Italy_Tuscany,17.25,20.05,6.52,2.79,20.41,9.07,19. 20,3.54,0.57,0.25,0.02,0.06,0.14,0.08,0.02
    Italy_Veneto,21.07,21.37,8.50,5.45,18.65,7.15,14.6 9,2.42,0.14,0.18,0.05,0.08,0.15,0.09,0.00
    Italian_Jewish,8.10,12.62,2.23,1.13,17.84,12.08,33 .85,8.25,0.07,0.65,0.21,0.08,0.75,2.14,0.01
    I have no issue with which you use .............but my snippet is via the paper and yours is via gedmatch and what samples are these?.........the getmatch could be correct or not since the paper ones is from 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Here are the K15 values added to vahaduo, courtesy of mlukas. They are in order according to how gedmatch shows them, separated by commas. They are the ones I used for the PCA I composed:

    Italy_Aostavalley,26.62,25.03,7.48,4.39,17.71,6.75 ,9.38,1.80,0.00,0.02,0.17,0.19,0.14,0.15,0.16
    Italy_Piedmont,21.38,25.13,7.86,4.01,19.32,6.70,12 .69,2.19,0.11,0.01,0.06,0.12,0.24,0.13,0.03
    Italy_Trentino,21.92,21.72,11.28,5.55,18.46,5.83,1 3.09,1.32,0.00,0.03,0.11,0.16,0.47,0.06,0.00
    Italy_Abruzzo,11.25,15.03,6.36,2.91,16.39,15.65,26 .38,5.48,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.17,0.07
    Italy_Apulia,9.50,14.93,6.66,2.94,17.44,14.90,27.2 4,4.99,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.18,0.58,0.55,0.01
    Italy_Calabria,8.07,12.92,4.55,1.98,17.48,15.12,31 .66,6.46,0.13,0.11,0.04,0.09,0.36,0.97,0.07
    Italy_Campania,8.83,15.10,5.33,2.06,18.31,14.96,29 .68,5.57,0.12,0.14,0.04,0.06,0.13,0.56,0.08
    Italy_Central_Sicily,8.94,14.64,4.78,1.31,17.60,14 .12,29.14,6.68,0.05,0.15,0.03,0.14,0.20,1.84,0.36
    Italy_East_Sicily,8.07,12.81,4.41,1.82,18.07,15.44 ,30.59,6.26,0.22,0.18,0.13,0.07,0.23,1.20,0.48
    Italy_West_Sicily,9.37,13.38,4.79,1.71,18.12,13.93 ,30.01,5.89,0.32,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.21,0.98,0.85
    Italy_Emiliaromagna,17.94,19.13,7.04,3.17,20.08,8. 91,19.65,3.29,0.03,0.12,0.00,0.04,0.29,0.15,0.02
    Italy_Friuli,19.00,21.50,10.42,6.03,17.50,7.38,14. 76,2.41,0.28,0.15,0.02,0.34,0.06,0.13,0.00
    Italy_Lazio,15.18,17.36,7.06,2.43,19.99,9.92,23.83 ,3.74,0.07,0.14,0.03,0.10,0.03,0.05,0.09
    Italy_Liguria,18.23,21.71,6.84,3.24,20.21,7.98,17. 82,3.03,0.11,0.17,0.07,0.23,0.24,0.03,0.08
    Italy_Lombardy,21.50,22.45,6.34,2.73,20.71,6.38,16 .91,2.27,0.11,0.21,0.08,0.06,0.16,0.07,0.00
    Italy_Marche,15.34,17.26,5.97,2.22,19.56,11.73,22. 54,4.32,0.21,0.10,0.00,0.37,0.10,0.27,0.07
    Italy_Tuscany,17.25,20.05,6.52,2.79,20.41,9.07,19. 20,3.54,0.57,0.25,0.02,0.06,0.14,0.08,0.02
    Italy_Veneto,21.07,21.37,8.50,5.45,18.65,7.15,14.6 9,2.42,0.14,0.18,0.05,0.08,0.15,0.09,0.00
    Italian_Jewish,8.10,12.62,2.23,1.13,17.84,12.08,33 .85,8.25,0.07,0.65,0.21,0.08,0.75,2.14,0.01
    you should add the missing ones.....like malta, ticino etc

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    I added Salento (top image / Grugni 2018 paper).

    Puglia was my 1st Match, but now it is Salento.
    Salento is in Puglia, so in my case 1st or 2nd doesn’t make much of a difference.

    It makes perfect sense, I was born in Salento, and my name is Salento :)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I added Salento (top image / Grugni 2018 paper).

    Puglia was my 1st Match, but now it is Salento.
    Salento is in Puglia, so in my case 1st or 2nd doesn’t make much of a difference.

    It makes perfect sense, I was born in Salento, and my name is Salento :)



    so Salento is more exacting as it is a certain area of puglia?

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    Added Collegno, Szolad and Crusader samples to K13 ancient:) http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13_ancient-vahaduo.htm

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