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@KingJohn
... almost :) I added R1, R850, and R437.
 
Thank you very much for the input data K36 @Salento. Very fun :)

My results including the mixed mode, using Vahaduo tool provided by mlukas.

Distance to:Duarte
11.04991403EMA_northItalian_FN_2
14.40337808CL94_Iberian
14.54415003CL36_northItalian
16.20095676BA_Hungary_RISE373
16.68255676CL57_northItalian
16.73560874SZ43_northItalian
17.68419633R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
17.97782801CL23_northItalian
18.07335055SZ28_northItalian
18.30650158SZ45_Pannonian
18.33766888SZ36_northItalian
18.34074153I3578_EMA_Andalusia
18.66526721EMA_northItalian_NW_54
18.66560741i3757_Celtiberian_IA
18.94987599I10892_Catalonia_medieval
19.56543892BA_Hungary_RISE247
20.39720324SZ18_Pannonian
20.80011058CL47_Alpine
20.86432601CL121__northItalian
21.06504925BA_Hungary_BR2
21.06839576I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent
21.45052680BA_Hungary_RISE480
21.46593813I1979_Beaker_North_Italy
21.47573514BA_Hungary_RISE483
21.79636667Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c

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these are the K36-Ancient coordinates I used ...


thank you

mine below

Distance to:TorzioK36
12.36590474EMA_northItalian_NW_54
12.37925280CL36_northItalian
13.22682502CL57_northItalian
14.32804941SZ28_northItalian
14.44072713R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
15.39026316CL63_Alpine
15.57323987SZ43_northItalian
15.89389820SZ37_Greek_Italian
16.28380484BA_Hungary_BR2
16.39436184SZ36_northItalian
16.54069829SZ18_Pannonian
16.84715406SZ45_Pannonian
17.90950586SZ32_northItalian
18.46182548EMA_Alpine_STR_310
18.56165941CL47_Alpine
18.65368864CL121__northItalian
18.65717288CL94_Iberian
18.75088798I10892_Catalonia_medieval
18.91868653CL23_northItalian
19.05146714CL102_Frankish
19.19072172BA_Hungary_RISE373
19.24466160R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste
19.49585341Visigoth_southEuro_mixed_I12031
19.81290993SZ5_Pannonian
19.86682410i3757_Celtiberian_IA


interesting...only one of the first 16 is not from north adriatic area ....sample SZ37 ....any idea on this one ?
 
@Torzio
... from MTA:

SZ37 Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ♂
Culture: Post-Roman

Y-DNA: R1b - mtDNA: H66a

Similar Samples:
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (5.902)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (6.463)
Central Roman (590 AD) (7.997)
Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (8.425)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (10.16)

Modern:
1. North_Italian (9.137)
2. Tuscan (11.53)
3. Kosovan (12.13)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (12.38)
5. Spanish_Valencia (13.70)
6. Spanish_Murcia (14.45)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (14.50)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (14.71)
 
@Torzio
... from MTA:

SZ37 Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ♂
Culture: Post-Roman

Y-DNA: R1b - mtDNA: H66a

Similar Samples:
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (5.902)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (6.463)
Central Roman (590 AD) (7.997)
Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (8.425)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (10.16)

Modern:
1. North_Italian (9.137)
2. Tuscan (11.53)
3. Kosovan (12.13)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (12.38)
5. Spanish_Valencia (13.70)
6. Spanish_Murcia (14.45)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (14.50)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (14.71)


thanks

why is he classed Greek_Italian ?

There is no Greek in ancient Kosovo ( dardania )

In fact looks central european to me

In the study Understanding 6th-Century Barbarian Social Organization and Migration through Paleogenomics, Carlos Eduardo G. Amorim et al., there are four good quality WGS samples from sixth century Longobard cemeteries in Hungary and Northern Italy who's files were analysed by Alex Williamson. One was DF27. Longobards were a Germanic people who ruled most of the Italian Peninsula from 568 to 774 AD. SZ5 (SRR6703600), buried with a spatha and lance, from Szólád, Hungary is: DF27/S250>Z195/S355>Z198>ZS312>FGC39101>BY3195. Full paper in Nature, September 2018, here. Hopefully similar more informative WGS (Whole Genome Sequencing) will be used on some of the Amesbury Bell Beaker samples one day. 'SZ27B, SZ37 and SZ42 were in fact U152 > L2
 
thanks

why is he classed Greek_Italian ?

There is no Greek in ancient Kosovo ( dardania )

In fact looks central european to me

In the study Understanding 6th-Century Barbarian Social Organization and Migration through Paleogenomics, Carlos Eduardo G. Amorim et al., there are four good quality WGS samples from sixth century Longobard cemeteries in Hungary and Northern Italy who's files were analysed by Alex Williamson. One was DF27. Longobards were a Germanic people who ruled most of the Italian Peninsula from 568 to 774 AD. SZ5 (SRR6703600), buried with a spatha and lance, from Szólád, Hungary is: DF27/S250>Z195/S355>Z198>ZS312>FGC39101>BY3195. Full paper in Nature, September 2018, here. Hopefully similar more informative WGS (Whole Genome Sequencing) will be used on some of the Amesbury Bell Beaker samples one day. 'SZ27B, SZ37 and SZ42 were in fact U152 > L2

Maybe it's classified Greek_Italian because they used something similar to this, and if correct, it makes sense :)

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Hey Salento, hope you are doing well.

Not sure how the classification makes sense based on the images from the calculator? Maybe I did not get something...
Have to agree with Torzio's point.
 
My results with k36 coordinates by Salento #902 (thanks Salento)


Distance to: Stuvanè_Eurogenesk36

9.93392672 CL36_northItalian
12.02185094 SZ36_northItalian
12.06894362 SZ28_northItalian
13.27100976 CL121__northItalian
13.38824858 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
14.30983578 SZ43_northItalian
14.78284140 SZ32_northItalian
14.90180862 CL23_northItalian
15.13772110 EMA_northItalian_NW_54
15.60571049 R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste
15.61234447 SZ18_Pannonian
15.71720395 CL57_northItalian
16.33817003 SZ45_Pannonian
16.45430643 Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
16.53333300 CL94_Iberian
17.61470408 CL47_Alpine
17.95235361 SZ19_Italian_Balkan
18.07129215 I10892_Catalonia_medieval
18.22531481 SZ1_GreekBalkan
18.32216144 EMA_northItalian_FN_2
18.61966434 BA_Hungary_BR2
19.80909640 i3757_Celtiberian_IA
19.82998235 EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1
19.90418800 Visigoth_southEuro_mixed_I12031
19.95119545 SZ40_Italian
20.01606605 DA199HungaryMedieval
20.26193969 SZ37_Greek_Italian
20.48415973 CL63_Alpine
20.53196532 EMA_Alpine_STR_310
20.76098023 CL31_Greek_Balkan
21.41646563 BA_Hungary_RISE373
21.65420283 I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
21.84685332 I3578_EMA_Andalusia
22.19948198 CL25_south_Italian
22.40874383 CL38_GreeksouthItalian
22.43574603 LBA_Armenia_RISE397
22.45514418 BA_Hungary_RISE480
22.46555586 BA_Hungary_RISE483
22.92738101 SZ5_Pannonian
23.02690383 I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent
23.40328182 EMA_Alpine_STR_535
23.63891706 CL30_GreeksouthItalian
23.97190856 BA_I9006_Mycenean
24.09992324 I1979_Beaker_North_Italy
24.10233599 i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
24.17945202 N_Bar31_Anatolia
24.29898146 BA_I9041_Mycenaean
24.31723257 EMA_Italian_STR_502
24.48632680 BA_Hungary_RISE247
24.88046824 N_Greece_Revenia5

Target: Stuvanè_Eurogenesk36
Distance: 7.3619% / 7.36191431 | ADC: 1x

46.0 CL36_northItalian
26.0 SZ36_northItalian
23.0 SZ28_northItalian
5.0 CL121__northItalian

Target: Stuvanè_Eurogenesk36
Distance: 4.8260% / 4.82603778 | ADC: 0.5x

32.4 SZ28_northItalian
25.6 CL121__northItalian
16.4 Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
12.4 SZ36_northItalian
7.0 SZ18_Pannonian
4.2 CL23_northItalian
2.0 EMA_northItalian_FN_2

Target: Stuvanè_Eurogenesk36
Distance: 2.8421% / 2.84212732 | ADC: 0.25x

27.4 CL121__northItalian
21.2 Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
19.4 SZ28_northItalian
11.2 EMA_northItalian_FN_2
9.2 SZ18_Pannonian
4.6 N_Levant_AinGhazal4
3.8 CWC_Poland_RISE1
1.6 LBA_Armenia_RISE412
1.2 MN_Germany_I0559
0.2 R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste
0.2 BA_Hungary_RISE254
 
Likewise "My results with k36 coordinates by Salento #902". Thank you Salento.


Distance to:Archetype0ne
15.02325531SZ32_northItalian
15.60877958EMA_Alpine_STR_310
17.20377284EMA_northItalian_NW_54
17.23085895SZ1_GreekBalkan
17.28210635R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
17.91060021EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1
17.93035136SZ36_northItalian
18.80814185SZ28_northItalian
18.83637704CL36_northItalian
19.07851671SZ45_Pannonian
19.08825031Visigoth_southEuro_mixed_I12031
19.33016037SZ18_Pannonian
19.67420901CL23_northItalian
20.34097343SZ5_Pannonian
20.69674129CL121__northItalian
20.91450932BA_Hungary_BR2
21.28352180DA199HungaryMedieval
21.57918210I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
21.62697390R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste
22.00965243SZ43_northItalian
22.96952546Gepid_Vim2
23.09229309Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
23.16553906I10892_Catalonia_medieval
23.36344153SZ37_Greek_Italian
23.40365570LBA_Armenia_RISE397



Target: Archetype0ne
Distance: 6.9845% / 6.98452301

14.8EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1
13.4N_Germany_I0797
12.8N_Levant_AinGhazal4
10.6DA112_HallstattBylany_800BC
9.8CHL_Yamnaya_Kalmykia_RISE546
8.8MA2198_Anatolia_IA
8.0Baiuvarii_Germanic_AEd_92
5.2EMA_Greek_STR_300
4.6EN_Iberia_I0411_I041
4.4I1979_Beaker_North_Italy
3.0I3496_Iberian_Catalonia_200BCE
2.6N_Germany_I0795
1.8AV2_Hungary_Szolad
0.2MBA_Armenia_RISE416



Think this calculator is not a good match for me, the distances are quite far.
 
with living dna raw data ( which use different chip and different markers compared to ftdna raw data)
i am still with this greek lady from late antiquity south germany :LOL:
although with living dna raw data the distance is more far now in 1 point ......:unsure:

Distance to:adam
13.16700801EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1
14.73390987CL25_south_Italian
15.46893338R850_Iron_Age_Ardea
16.34879506CL38_GreeksouthItalian
16.38021367SZ36_northItalian
16.59023508CL30_GreeksouthItalian
17.07448389Crimean_Goth_Ker_1
17.15379258CL31_Greek_Balkan
17.98479636SZ43_northItalian
18.11073163CL121__northItalian
18.22676329R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste
19.07199255R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
19.08378893I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
19.86637612SZ32_northItalian
20.39505332i3808_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
21.24106636SZ40_Italian
21.27489130CL36_northItalian
21.85878771SZ1_GreekBalkan
22.19864185Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
22.35110512EMA_Alpine_STR_310
22.45618400MA2198_Anatolia_IA
22.45631537EN_Anatolia_Tepe002
22.93358018SZ37_Greek_Italian
23.40728733SZ19_Italian_Balkan
23.74165116CL23_northItalian
 
Distances can be reformatted ...

13.31 or 1.331
13.32 or 1.332

look below:

CmyB4E3.jpg
 
@Torzio
... from MTA:

SZ37 Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ♂
Culture: Post-Roman

Y-DNA: R1b - mtDNA: H66a

Similar Samples:
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (5.902)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (6.463)
Central Roman (590 AD) (7.997)
Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (8.425)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (10.16)

Modern:
1. North_Italian (9.137)
2. Tuscan (11.53)
3. Kosovan (12.13)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (12.38)
5. Spanish_Valencia (13.70)
6. Spanish_Murcia (14.45)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (14.50)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (14.71)


MTA does match what you have above, with what they give me

1. North_Italian (5.281)
2. Kosovan (9.960)
3. Tuscan (10.13)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (11.97)
5. Bosnian (12.05)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (12.64)
7. Bulgarian (12.75)
8. Portuguese (12.88)





1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.076 - R1 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

2. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ?
Top 99 % match vs all users

3. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 8.455 - OBS137 - ?
Top 99 % match vs all users

4. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ..... 8.676 - SZ37 -
Top 99 % match vs all users


5. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

6. Bronze Age Szolad Hungary (1000 BC) ..... 9.36 - SZ1
Top 98 % match vs all users

7. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.695 - SZ36 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

8. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 9.874 - CL36 - ?
Top 98 % match vs all users

9. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b -
Top 98 % match vs all users
 
... got it, ... I didn't name the Labels,

I’m deleting the Image on post #910 ...

... clean your cookies if you still see it.
 
Distances can be reformatted ...

13.31 or 1.331
13.32 or 1.332

look below:

CmyB4E3.jpg

Yes, it is what I suggested to yourdnaportal. For some unexplained reason K36 in every Dodecad based oracle has 10 times bigger distances than other calculators. It doesn't mean it is completely non-fitted for everybody, it would be impossible:)
 
Yes, it is what I suggested to yourdnaportal. For some unexplained reason K36 in every Dodecad based oracle has 10 times bigger distances than other calculators. It doesn't mean it is completely non-fitted for everybody, it would be impossible:)

... then I subtract my distances by 10 :)

CL25 3.75
SZ40 3.96
R437 5.31
SZ36 5.38
..........

xE7d5CE.jpg
 
... then I subtract my distances by 10 :)

CL25 3.75
SZ40 3.96
R437 5.31
SZ36 5.38
..........

xE7d5CE.jpg

Sorry but should be:

CL25 1.375
SZ40 1.396
R437 1.531
SZ36 1.538
..........

If you divide by 10:) This is what you have to do with them.
 
Sorry but should be:

CL25 1.375
SZ40 1.396
R437 1.531
SZ36 1.538
..........

If you divide by 10:) This is what you have to do with them.

thanks, I thought so too at first, but after dividing, it seemed too close so I subtracted.

thanks again for letting me know! :)
 

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