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Not that bad with the new Iberian list, but not as close as Torzio, or, obviously, our Iberian members.

Distance to:Angela
10.41360648I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
11.46205915I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
12.40415656I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
12.44980321I8343_NE_Iberia_Late_RomP
12.56763701I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
13.33451911I3983_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
13.76661905I3807_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
13.82600810I3579_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
14.16686274I3582_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
14.18243280I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
14.30385962I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
14.44634556I7424_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
14.57905347I6490_NE_Iberia_RomP
14.81677090I12030_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
14.83303071I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
14.90958752I8145_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
15.27236393I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
15.51654601I3980_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
16.21109188I3574_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
16.24334325I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
16.49428992I12033_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
16.96095811I3583_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
17.33538866I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
17.37427409I3866_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
17.62457943I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES

A distance of around 4 using just these samples, which is pretty good. I'm at a distance of about 4 to both Bergamo and TSI.



Target: Angela
Distance: 4.5213% / 4.52128781
39.0I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
31.0I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
14.6I6490_NE_Iberia_RomP
12.0I7158_NE_Iberia_RomP
3.4I8147_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
 
my results from info in post #754

Distance to:Torziok12b
8.04795626I3866_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
8.37730267I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
9.46845288I12033_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
9.73437723I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
10.40285057I12031_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
10.96332066I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
11.41299698I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
11.80363503I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
11.91700046I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
12.27761785I3579_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
12.34020259I8343_NE_Iberia_Late_RomP
12.37751187I3807_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
12.73437081I10897_NE_Iberia_c.8-12CE
13.07015302I12030_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
13.28542434I3775_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
13.34690601I12164_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
13.87122922I3776_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
14.04731291I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
14.45503373I6490_NE_Iberia_RomP
14.46053249I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
14.48190940I12162_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
14.50296866I7424_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
15.30236256I7676_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
16.20665295I3582_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
16.65388243I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE


my father and ist cousin from my grandfather sister line



Distance to:TrentinoCles
10.86612166I3866_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
11.12366846I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
11.20573068I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
11.80987722I8343_NE_Iberia_Late_RomP
11.95923911I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
12.49272188I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
12.73032993I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
13.17901362I3807_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
13.47102817I6490_NE_Iberia_RomP
13.48884725I12033_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
13.77082786I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
13.92836315I12031_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
14.09016324I3579_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
14.39395707I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
14.88684990I12030_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
15.20606787I7424_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
15.27134244I3775_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
15.83765134I3983_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
16.29699359I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
16.38164216I3582_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
16.42492009I10897_NE_Iberia_c.8-12CE
17.35211803I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
18.31062260I12164_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
18.85523004I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
18.95882380I8145_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
Distance to:PonzanoK12b
6.23568761I3866_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
8.81158896I12031_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
9.80255069I12033_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
10.44406530I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
10.77129983I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
10.83505422I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
10.90862961I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
10.93739457I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
11.55215997I8343_NE_Iberia_Late_RomP
11.56440660I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
11.63322397I3775_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
11.98518252I10897_NE_Iberia_c.8-12CE
12.09926857I3579_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
12.35709513I3807_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
12.88013199I3776_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
13.01355447I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
13.49575859I12162_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
13.61175595I12030_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
13.74047306I6490_NE_Iberia_RomP
14.03012117I12164_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
15.16363083I7424_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
15.20185844I7676_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
15.39073098I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
16.37228145I3582_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
16.78413537I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE

might be from from grandmother line ..............far too many in the world to find any link after my line to 1850
http://www.baseggio.net/
 
Jovialis: Thanks again for your work and efforts. I get a reasonable match with I4054 at 9.79 then next one I7499 at 12.84 ranging up to 57.04 for I7158. Is the imgur.com a site that requires membership or can you just upload an image and link it in a post? Thanks again for the samples.

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
9.79056178I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
12.84361320I7499_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
12.99809217I3808_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
13.67693314I7500_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
13.96867209I7424_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
14.38200612I3980_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
14.86477380I3983_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
16.29658246I12030_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
16.42560501I3807_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
18.39318352I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
18.67874996I3582_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
18.70885619I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
18.86455406I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
18.91112900I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
19.32237563I3579_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
20.37579692I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
21.10797243I8343_NE_Iberia_Late_RomP
21.82645642I3583_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
22.55830002I8145_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
22.58684794I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
23.07452708I3575_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
23.13481143I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
23.39086574I8147_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
24.67454761I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
25.10293210I3574_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
26.54786809I3866_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
26.89339324I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
27.47046050I12031_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
27.50744445I7458_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
27.90266116I12033_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
28.18091730I12645_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
28.61135264I6490_NE_Iberia_RomP
29.41524265I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
30.05811704I3577_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
30.22115319I3584_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
30.43834260I7423_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
30.67960560I3775_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
31.13432993I10897_NE_Iberia_c.8-12CE
31.22079115I12164_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
31.28080721I3776_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
32.52318250I7676_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
33.25518907I12162_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
34.20233618I12648_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
35.63319660I3778_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
36.40370173I12650_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
36.56213615I10854_NE_Iberia_c.8-12CE
36.91872018I12029_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
37.65917285I7426_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
38.99290577I6492_NE_Iberia_RomP
39.68739220I7674_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
40.49962222I7672_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
41.88728685I7427_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr
53.03039317I3810_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr2
53.07252868I12646_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
57.04647667I7158_NE_Iberia_RomP


Closest distances using 0.25X and 2X

Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 8.6104% / 8.61042213 | ADC: 0.25x
55.8 I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
27.2 I7499_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
11.2 I8147_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
5.8 I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP

Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 9.7906% / 9.79056178 | ADC: 2x
100.0 I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
 
Me gustan tus cosas Torzio

Torzio, Palermo, Jovialis x 1 y Ángela

Duarte es de la casa
 
Jovialis: Thanks again for your work and efforts. I get a reasonable match with I4054 at 9.79 then next one I7499 at 12.84 ranging up to 57.04 for I7158. Is the imgur.com a site that requires membership or can you just upload an image and link it in a post? Thanks again for the samples.
Distance to:PalermoTrapani
9.79056178I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
12.84361320I7499_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
12.99809217I3808_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
13.67693314I7500_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
13.96867209I7424_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
14.38200612I3980_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
14.86477380I3983_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
16.29658246I12030_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
16.42560501I3807_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
18.39318352I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
18.67874996I3582_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
18.70885619I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
18.86455406I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
18.91112900I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
19.32237563I3579_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
20.37579692I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
21.10797243I8343_NE_Iberia_Late_RomP
21.82645642I3583_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
22.55830002I8145_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
22.58684794I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
23.07452708I3575_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
23.13481143I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
23.39086574I8147_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
24.67454761I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
25.10293210I3574_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
26.54786809I3866_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
26.89339324I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
27.47046050I12031_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
27.50744445I7458_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
27.90266116I12033_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
28.18091730I12645_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
28.61135264I6490_NE_Iberia_RomP
29.41524265I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
30.05811704I3577_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
30.22115319I3584_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
30.43834260I7423_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
30.67960560I3775_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
31.13432993I10897_NE_Iberia_c.8-12CE
31.22079115I12164_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
31.28080721I3776_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
32.52318250I7676_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
33.25518907I12162_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
34.20233618I12648_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
35.63319660I3778_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
36.40370173I12650_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
36.56213615I10854_NE_Iberia_c.8-12CE
36.91872018I12029_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
37.65917285I7426_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
38.99290577I6492_NE_Iberia_RomP
39.68739220I7674_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
40.49962222I7672_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
41.88728685I7427_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr
53.03039317I3810_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr2
53.07252868I12646_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
57.04647667I7158_NE_Iberia_RomP
Closest distances using 0.25X and 2X
Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 8.6104% / 8.61042213 | ADC: 0.25x
55.8 I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
27.2 I7499_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
11.2 I8147_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
5.8 I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 9.7906% / 9.79056178 | ADC: 2x
100.0 I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
The credit goes to Duarte, for the new Iberian samples.

I think you need to sign up for it.
 
Joviali/Duarte: Duarte, my apologies, I lost track of who is putting what samples together, so a sincere thanks to both of you for putting these samples together.
 
Still Bronze Age and Balkans heavy, but my second highest match is a sample from Roman Era Spain. My highest Iron Age sample is Castel de Decima at 9.5. The Iberians really come in from 10 to 12.

Distance to:Angela
5.88072274I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
6.32650773I8475_NE_Iberia_RomP_atypical
6.32865705I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
6.44030279R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.46676117SZ43
6.53661992R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
7.03668956I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN
7.04472143I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
7.09619616I2176_Balkans_BronzeAge
7.14881808R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.44927513I2175_Balkans_BronzeAge
7.88178279CL36
8.15250268ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197
8.36475343SZ28
8.77719773Bul10_Balkans_BronzeAge
8.92554760R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
8.94997207Bul6_Balkans_BronzeAge
9.17988562SZ31
9.21016829CL23
9.24803222I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
9.30224167R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
9.30524583ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192
9.47417543R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
9.47641282R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
9.54090667ScythianMoldova_SCY300
9.59307563I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
9.59990625R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
9.74779462R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
9.81179392R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
9.81848257R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
10.41360648PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
10.41360648I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
10.41424025SZ36
10.57665354R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica
10.62623169I0706_Balkans_Neolithic
10.65957316R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
10.77751827R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
10.82190833R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
11.25718437R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
11.46205915I4054_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
11.48748885R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
12.03847582SZ19
12.06772970Bavaria_BB_II5524
12.09009512CrusaderKnightTuscanLebanonCrusaderSI41
12.14752238HispanoRomanTaifaofValencia_I12647
12.37687360I1295_Malak_Preslavets
12.40415656I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
12.44980321I8343_NE_Iberia_Late_RomP
12.56763701SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
12.56763701I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
The Balkans Bronze Age sample is closest to Lombards at 3 and Emilians at 4, so that makes complete sense.

That Spanish sample from the Roman Era is closest to Corsica, Liguria, Emilia, Toscana.

The Bronze Age Armenoi is not an optimal sample, but for what it's worth it's closest to Corsicans and Tuscans.

The Medieval Era Cancelleria sample 1285 is closest to Corsica and Romagna and 1287 to the Corsican sample and the Marche province in Italy.

So, the results make sense. I think it's important to go through this exercise or you can really draw the wrong conclusion from the samples from the historical era. People traveled, and the samples are not necessarily "local". The people might have also been admixed, which may be the case with that Roman Era Spanish sample.

Without a distance column I think it's overfit and too jumbled.
Target: Angela
Distance: 1.1666% / 1.16662428 | ADC: 0.25x
40.0I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
15.2R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
13.8R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
12.8I0706_Balkans_Neolithic
12.4R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
4.4R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
1.4I1295_Malak_Preslavets


Target: Angela
Distance: 0.0948% / 0.09482699
5.6I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical
5.6I12164_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
5.4R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica
5.0I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
4.2I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
3.8SZ13
3.6R43_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
3.4I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
3.2ZHAJ_Boncuklu_Aceramic
3.2I12029_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
3.0ElSotilloBasqueCountry_I1977
3.0R18_Neolithic_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
2.8R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS
2.8I6492_NE_Iberia_RomP
2.6ASH2-3_Iron_Age1
2.6I7158_NE_Iberia_RomP
2.4R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
2.2ANI160_Varna_Outlier
2.0CL63
1.8I8208_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2
1.8R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
1.8ANI163_Varna_Outlier
1.8I2181_Balkans_Chalcolithic_outlier
1.4I8211_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1
1.4R125_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce
1.4R851_Iron_Age_Ardea
1.4I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
1.4I2176_Balkans_BronzeAge
1.2I1926_Trypillia
1.0R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
1.0R836_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
1.0I2318_Peloponnese_Neolithic
0.8LBA_ElSotillo_Alava_I2469
0.8IlergetesTribeCatalan_I12878
0.8SZ12
0.8SZ19
0.8R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
0.8R16_Neolithic_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
0.8I0633_Balkans_Neolithic
0.8I1917_Yamnaya_Ukraine_outlier
0.8I12033_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
0.6SZ28
0.6R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
0.6R62_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
0.6R106_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
0.6R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
0.6R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro
0.6ANI159_ANI181_Varna
0.4R1551_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
0.4R128_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce
0.4R2_Neolithic_Grotta_Continenza
0.4I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
0.4I4930_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Sicily
0.4I2405_Globular_Amphora
0.2R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
0.2R1548_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
0.2R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
0.2R19_Neolithic_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
0.2R15_Mesolithic_Grotta_Continenza
0.2I2111_Trypillia
0.2I7676_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
 
I ran the Modern Samples and the ancient samples for Dodecad K12B that Jovialis and Duarte put together. Using 2X, I get 2 Romans from the medieval era for my best fit/distance. Using 1X, I sill only get Romans. I don;t get any modern populations until 0.5X with Italy_Sicily and only get 2 from Italy (Campania and Sicily) at 0.25X. Roman R52 is my flag bearer in all 4 estimations. I need to see who this Roman is. Maybe the brother of a medieval Pope, not a Borgia I hope!

Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 2.1017% / 2.10165024 | ADC: 2x
55.0R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
45.0R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna


Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 1.6478% / 1.64778114 | ADC: 1x
52.2R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
25.6R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
21.4R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
0.8R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche


Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 1.1153% / 1.11531651 | ADC: 0.5x
51.0R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
17.8Italy_Sicily
16.2R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
7.4R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
5.2R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.4I3808_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE

Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 0.5163% / 0.51631824 | ADC: 0.25x

44.6R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
17.6Italy_Campania
12.8R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
9.0R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
7.8R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
3.0I7499_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
2.6Italy_Sicily
1.4I1704_AG89_1_Early_LPPNB
0.6R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
0.4I1690_Natufian_Nat6_Raqefet_Cave_Israel
0.2I0867_Motz1_Late_PPNB_Motza_Israel
 
Thanks folks :)

Duarte would be very good to have all the Celtiberians and Visigoths of Iberia so far there are only those of Girona.

Carlos, I had already downloaded the BAM files last weekend. I lacked time to obtain the coordinates. It is tiring work. I took advantage of today's work break to get the coordinates. As soon as I can, I will focus on the NW and SW of Iberia. I just can't promise by soon, but I can try as soon as possible :)
 
Awesome, I will add them to the master list of samples.

Dear Jovialis.
There are two Iberian samples in duplicate:
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514 = I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516 = I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
I suggest excluding those with the MTA label, that is, PortugueseCordobaCaliphate. I remade my top 25 and my top 60 after excluding the duplicates mentioned.
Big hug.

TOP 25
Distance to:Duarte
6.29654667GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
6.83142738GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
7.15328596EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
7.40270896I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
7.51741312I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
7.79453013R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.87062895Roman-SoldierFN_2
7.96743999EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
7.98827891GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
8.29628230MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
8.57093927CrusaderKnightFrenchLebanonCrusaderSI40
8.65500433I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
8.79383307I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
8.84874002R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
8.85043502GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
9.14401444I2215_Malak_Preslavets
9.16999455R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
9.54338514I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
9.68837448R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
9.70848598CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
9.77754570SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
9.77754570I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
10.09213060GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
10.16175674I3584_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
10.26428760IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498

Top 60
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Dear Jovialis.
There are two Iberian samples in duplicate:
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514 = I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516 = I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
I suggest excluding those with the MTA label, that is, PortugueseCordobaCaliphate. I remade my top 25 and my top 60 after excluding the duplicates mentioned.
Big hug.

TOP 25
Distance to:Duarte
6.29654667GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
6.83142738GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
7.15328596EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
7.40270896I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
7.51741312I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
7.79453013R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.87062895Roman-SoldierFN_2
7.96743999EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
7.98827891GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
8.29628230MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
8.57093927CrusaderKnightFrenchLebanonCrusaderSI40
8.65500433I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
8.79383307I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
8.84874002R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
8.85043502GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
9.14401444I2215_Malak_Preslavets
9.16999455R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
9.54338514I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
9.68837448R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
9.70848598CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
9.77754570SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
9.77754570I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
10.09213060GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
10.16175674I3584_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
10.26428760IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498

Top 60
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Sure thing, I will fix it when I have a chance later today.
 
Fascinating. Do you "see" it?

For the most part, though my younger brother, and younger sister are the most alike to each other genetically; but very different in phenotype. But out of all my siblings, I'm closest to my younger sister genetically. Moreover, people say we look the most alike.
 
Jovialis vs family

All raw data from 23andme V5, with Dodecad K12b coordinates.

ClM71v8.png

interesting

I ran mine and my family members with some selected ancients

Distance to:Torziok12b
2.82842712
BelunPk12b ................................1st cousin paternal side in Belluno
2.89198893
PonzanoK12b ................................Father
4.82277928Collegno23
4.86300319R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
5.02880702I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
5.21492090R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
6.00532264Szolad28
6.60955369Collegno49
6.80141162
TrentinoCles .......................................Female 1st cousin from sister of my paternal grandfather
6.88000000I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN
6.93799683Collegno94
7.57478052I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
7.62312272Collegno57
7.70831369Collegno36
7.72828571Collegno47
7.89459942Bavaria_BB_II5524
7.93197958Szolad45
8.04854024Szolad43
8.12515231Szolad27
8.87062568NorthAlpineBronzeAgeFrench_AITI_120
9.50909039Collegno102
9.57848631Szolad18
9.71251255Szolad31
10.29711610Szolad36
10.30020874Szolad1



it is interesting that the female line split apart from family percentage very quickly
35.8
BelunPk12b32.6PonzanoK12b20.0Collegno239.4Szolad272.2NorthAlpineBronzeAgeFrench_AITI_120

my grandfather sister b.1884 ( which Trentinocles came via ) ....my grandfather b. 1895 .......and his brother ( which Belunp came via ) b. 1886
 
Jovialis vs Jovialis

lMhB5NJ.png

Raw-Data(s)
me vs me

jy8D16m.png


I noticed earlier that 23v5 and LivingDNA are close.

my 23v5 upload to LivingDNA is almost Identical (almost).
 
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Salento: Interesting analysis you and Jovialis did there. We know you cluster with yourself!! I have had DNA test done with Ancestry, which my raw DNA is in the format to upload to GEDMATCH (which of course I have done). My NatGEO DNA format is not to knowledge compatible with GEDMATCH. So am I correct to assume your NatGEO DNA was done earlier or with a format that NatGEO no longer provides to those who want to download their raw DNA.
 
Salento: Interesting analysis you and Jovialis did there. We know you cluster with yourself!! I have had DNA test done with Ancestry, which my raw DNA is in the format to upload to GEDMATCH (which of course I have done). My NatGEO DNA format is not to knowledge compatible with GEDMATCH. So am I correct to assume your NatGEO DNA was done earlier or with a format that NatGEO no longer provides to those who want to download their raw DNA.

I think we have the same version of NatGeo.
I reformatted the data.

but, you should still be able to get the coordinates with AdmixtureStudio:

https://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/

... if you get the NatGeo numbers for Dodecad K12, follow the pattern below:

Gedrosia
Siberian
Northwest_African
Southeast_Asian
Atlantic_Med
North_European
South_Asian
East_African
Southwest_Asian
East_Asian
Caucasus
Sub_Saharan
 

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