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Thread: Ancient Rome Test (Various Calculators)

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    Thanks for that post, it seems the Sicilians and Southern Italians, Central Italians map into the Roman samples very well!!!!!. North Italians do so to, but quite the same as the others. Of course, if that 13.97 Marker for Northern Italian is the most distance fit, then the Nordic populations I would hypothesize are going to be much, much, much further away. Would that be a correct interpretation.

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    Ok, Help from my Fellow Americans of Italian ancestry. I have only been on GEDMATCH about 1 month and I am a "Commoner" at Eupedia. Can someone provide a little more clarification on the instructions that Angela gave in the Original post. I would like to run my raw DNA from Ancestry against the ancient Roman samples.

    Millie Grazie,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Ok, Help from my Fellow Americans of Italian ancestry. I have only been on GEDMATCH about 1 month and I am a "Commoner" at Eupedia. Can someone provide a little more clarification on the instructions that Angela gave in the Original post. I would like to run my raw DNA from Ancestry against the ancient Roman samples.

    Millie Grazie,
    I am going to explain something in Italian.

    Prendi da GedMatch le tue coordinate di Dodecad K12b ed aggiungi all’inizio un nome e una virgola.

    per esempio:

    Paler,7.31,0,4.59,0.11,27.21,13.41,0.29,0.3,12.09, 0.47,33.13,0

    Copia le coordinate dei Romani
    Vai a:

    http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

    clicca su uno dei Dodecad K12b,

    clicca su SOURCE ed incolla
    (se vuoi solo i risultati dei Romani, cancella tutto prima di incollare)

    clicca su TARGET ed aggiungi le tue coordinate.

    clicca su SINGLE, e se è andato tutto bene clicca sul tuo nome.

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    Distance to: New_Englander
    3.95953280 R60___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    4.29397252 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    4.98184705 R1549_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    5.01274117 Italy_Lazio
    5.26657384 R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    6.29007695 Italy_Apulia
    6.43431566 Italy_Marche
    6.52223121 R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    6.64915032 R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    6.67253325 R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    6.71292783 R54___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    6.83311786 Italy_Abruzzo
    7.19560282 Albanian_Kosovo
    7.42528114 R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.87182317 R973__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    7.98444112 R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    7.98581868 Italy_Romagna
    8.04194628 R107__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    8.19025641 R836__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    8.29413045 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    8.68067970 R64___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    8.70839825 Albanian_North
    8.74982286 R59___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    9.31055315 R49___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    9.44677194 Greek

    Target: New_Englander
    Distance: 0.0753% / 0.07530904

    6.0 R107__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    4.4 Assyrian
    3.4 Swiss_Italian
    3.2 Romanians
    3.2 R836__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    3.0 R1548_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    3.0 R114__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    2.8 R128__Imperial_Era__Casale_del_Dolce
    2.8 R76___Imperial_Era__Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
    2.4 Albanian_North
    2.4 R43___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    2.4 R136__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    2.4 R15___Mesolithic____Grotta_Continenza
    2.0 Cypriots
    2.0 Polish
    2.0 R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    2.0 R111__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    1.8 German
    1.8 Lithuanian
    1.8 R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    1.6 Dutch
    1.6 Mixed_Germanic
    1.6 Samaritians
    1.6 R113__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    1.4 Iraq_Jews
    1.2 Argyll
    1.2 Bosnian
    1.2 French
    1.2 Greek_Pontus
    1.2 Italy_Romagna
    1.2 R106__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    1.2 R1543_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    1.2 Yemen_Jews
    1.0 Armenian_West
    1.0 Belorussian
    1.0 British_Isles
    1.0 Greek
    1.0 Lithuanians
    1.0 Orcadian
    1.0 R125__Imperial_Era__Casale_del_Dolce
    1.0 R17___Neolithic_____Ripabianca_di_Monterado
    0.8 Baleares
    0.8 Cataluna
    0.8 Georgia_Jews
    0.8 Hemshin
    0.8 Italy_Lombardy
    0.8 France_Corsica
    0.8 Swedish
    0.8 R130__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    0.8 R72___Imperial_Era__ANAS
    0.8 R81___Imperial_Era__Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
    0.6 Georgian_Imereti
    0.6 Italy_Liguria
    0.6 Piramalai_Kallars
    0.6 Saudis
    0.6 R71___Imperial_Era__ANAS
    0.6 R437__Iron_Age_____Palestrina_Selicata
    0.6 R2____Neolithic_____Grotta_Continenza
    0.6 R19___Neolithic_____Ripabianca_di_Monterado
    0.4 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    0.4 Kurds
    0.4 North_Kannadi
    0.4 Spanish
    0.4 R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    0.4 R44___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    0.4 R45___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    0.4 R9____Neolithic_____Grotta_Continenza
    0.4 R1014_Chalcolithic___Monte_San_Biagio
    0.2 Abhkasians
    0.2 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
    0.2 French_Basque
    0.2 Kurd_Sorani
    0.2 Meena
    0.2 Pais_Vasco
    0.2 Sardinian
    0.2 Sindhi
    0.2 Valencia
    0.2 R35___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    0.2 R38___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    0.2 R68___Imperial_Era__ANAS
    0.2 R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    0.2 R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    0.2 R6____Neolithic_____Grotta_Continenza
    0.2 R3____Neolithic_____Grotta_Continenza
    0.2 R5____Chalcolithic___Grotta_Continenza

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    9.16251603 R435__Iron_Age_____Palestrina_Colombella
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    12.13097276 R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
    12.25666757 R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima
    12.30338165 R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    12.30844426 R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    12.63451622 R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    13.22409921 R109__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    13.76890337 R116__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    13.79595955 R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica
    14.42872136 R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    15.19995066 R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    15.20913213 R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    15.91327433 R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    18.50491016 R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    18.99768933 R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    19.47222381 R61___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    19.58802951 R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    19.84794448 R108__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    21.03633286 R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    21.60851453 R62___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    22.06875620 R6____Neolithic_____Grotta_Continenza
    22.35173595 R104__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi

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    Thanks for the comments. Sorry I got the the names mixed up. My problem was thinking you could get a plot of the results on the Antonio et al. (2019, Figure 2) from that program. I did get results. So again thanks. I will try to be clearer with my questions in the future.

    Once again, thanks and Cheers.
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    8.59250836 R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    8.91496495 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    9.25534440 R54___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    9.27424930 R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    9.47794281 R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    9.62239056 R973__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    9.63967842 R59___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    9.77036847 R58___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    9.92420778 R836__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    9.92754250 R107__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    10.47685544 R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    10.48066792 R1549_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    10.67414634 R49___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    11.05854421 R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    11.11762565 R64___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    11.19741935 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    11.42585227 R1544_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    11.62182000 R65___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    11.73109969 R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    11.80387225 R57___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    11.81083824 R53___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    11.84085301 R436__Imperial_Era__Palestrina
    11.88219256 R122__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
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    k12b ancient - no IA-r850 latin outlier here back to imperial area
    distance:
    3.30708331 R136__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    3.49104569 R1544_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    4.61632971 R64___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    4.68362039 R436__Imperial_Era__Palestrina
    4.75920161 R53___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    4.95236307 R54___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.03863077 R114__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    5.58374426 R65___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.93626987 R973__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    6.42969673 R35___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    6.58944611 R50___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    6.64663073 R49___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    7.02136739 R58___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.18610465 R56___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.28116749 R60___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.35566448 R122__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    7.45313357 R1548_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    7.53091628 R59___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.54059016 R117__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    7.90899488 R115__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    7.94520610 R47___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    7.97989348 R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    8.02450622 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    8.26396999 R51___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    8.35439405 R137__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    k12b ancient - no IA-r850 latin outlier here back to imperial area
    distance:
    3.30708331 R136__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    3.49104569 R1544_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    4.61632971 R64___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    4.68362039 R436__Imperial_Era__Palestrina
    4.75920161 R53___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    4.95236307 R54___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.03863077 R114__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    5.58374426 R65___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.93626987 R973__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    6.42969673 R35___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    6.58944611 R50___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    6.64663073 R49___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    7.02136739 R58___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.18610465 R56___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.28116749 R60___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.35566448 R122__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    7.45313357 R1548_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    7.53091628 R59___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.54059016 R117__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    7.90899488 R115__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    7.94520610 R47___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    7.97989348 R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    8.02450622 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    8.26396999 R51___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    8.35439405 R137__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    I have no idea who you are or if these results are "yours". What I do know is that R 850 is half italic and half Chalcolithic Anatolian. Would that describe your purported ancestry?

    My husband does get a hit to 850 but I had to increase to 50 and even 75 to get to some samples, because he has so many reasonably good matches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I have no idea who you are or if these results are "yours". What I do know is that R 850 is half italic and half Chalcolithic Anatolian. Would that describe your purported ancestry?

    My husband does get a hit to 850 but I had to increase to 50 and even 75 to get to some samples, because he has so many reasonably good matches.
    this results are mine angela
    my background again like a broken record :
    1/4 aschenazi, 1/4 sefhardi, 1/4 syrian jew , 1/4 bulgarian gentile

    yes i know he is a latin outlier for example r851 is very different from r850
    which as you said is a mixture of italic+ chl antolia ........
    regards
    Adam


    p,s
    but in this ancient rome 1.0 test
    my first by distance are imperial romans R136, R1544 not R850
    in k13 ancient indeed my second by distance is R850
    and in k15 ancient my first by distance is R850

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    My Ancient Roman Results. I am an American of Italian ancestry (Sicilia-Tutti).

    My K12B updated coordinates: PalermoTrapani,6.92,0,3.80,0.62,30.54,13.54,0,0.40 ,12.76,0,31.43,0

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    Distance to: PalermoTrapani
    2.76190152 R52___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    2.81037364 R56___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    3.27177322 R122__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    3.34701359 R35___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    3.84983117 R131__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    4.10471680 R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    4.16370028 R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    4.18976133 R437__Iron_Age_____Palestrina_Selicata
    4.32090268 R973__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    4.54783465 R49___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    4.57668002 R117__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    4.82952379 R65___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    4.83867751 R54___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.03103369 R836__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    5.30245226 R47___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    5.32897739 R59___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.43089311 R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    5.46635162 R64___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.50746766 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    5.68175149 R107__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    5.70777540 R113__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    5.90403252 R118__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    6.04601522 R136__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    6.17554046 R58___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    6.46672251 R1544_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    6.74800711 R436__Imperial_Era__Palestrina
    6.76732591 R60___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    6.77646663 R53___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.20115963 R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    7.28579440 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    7.62057741 R32___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    8.11539894 R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    8.21912404 R137__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    8.33180653 R30___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    8.85745449 R50___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    9.01662354 R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.08267582 R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    9.08880080 R111__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    9.26807963 R114__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    9.42151262 R125__Imperial_Era__Casale_del_Dolce
    9.94731119 R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.97097789 R1549_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    10.00080497 R51___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    10.36353704 R45___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    11.49942172 R133__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    11.56716473 R69___Imperial_Era__ANAS
    11.63612049 R1548_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    12.28268293 R39___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    12.32797226 R81___Imperial_Era__Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
    12.33247745 R80___Imperial_Era__Viale_Rossini_Necropolis

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 0.6641% / 0.66410186 | ADC: 0.25x
    49.0 R52___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    16.2 R35___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    14.8 R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    9.0 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    6.8 R73___Imperial_Era__ANAS
    2.8 R80___Imperial_Era__Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
    1.0 R56___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    0.4 R136__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro

    Appreciate any experts here to provide some commentary. I went to the Antionio et al (2019) supplement results and discussion to look up where in Lazio my closest matches were from.

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    I don't remember if I posted these.

    So, here goes...
    Distance to: Angela
    6.44030279 R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.53661992 R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    7.14881808 R111__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    8.92554760 R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima
    9.30224167 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.47417543 R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    9.47641282 R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
    9.59990625 R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    9.74779462 R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    9.81179392 R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    9.81848257 R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    10.57665354 R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica
    10.65957316 R118__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    10.77751827 R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    10.82190833 R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    11.25718437 R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    11.48748885 R113__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    12.90000388 R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    12.99464505 R52___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    13.22874522 R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    13.33739855 R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    13.36636824 R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    13.51517665 R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    14.11183546 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    14.21805894 R836__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche



    Target: Angela
    Distance: 0.3732% / 0.37320825
    23.8 R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica
    14.8 R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima
    10.0 R71___Imperial_Era__ANAS
    8.8 R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    7.8 R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.8 R43___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    6.0 R18___Neolithic_____Ripabianca_di_Monterado
    5.0 R106__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    4.8 R113__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    4.4 R62___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    3.0 R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    2.4 R16___Neolithic_____Ripabianca_di_Monterado
    1.0 R32___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    1.0 R107__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    0.2 R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    0.2 R11___Mesolithic____Grotta_Continenza


    Seems like about 55-60% Iron Age and Neolithic, without taking into account the Iron Age ancestry in the Late Antiquity and Medieval Era people. So much for no continuity in Italy from the Iron Age
    Last edited by Angela; 16-01-20 at 22:33.

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    Angela:

    Cool results, Iron Age would be 900 BC to Imperial era around 27 BC. I would think some folks on some of these other non Eupedia DNA forums are not going to like your results being so tied to Iron Age Romans. Of course, this is just an hypothesis and not dogmatic statement of fact.
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    Here are my matches. I didn't expect close matches between a modern Belgian and ancient Italians, but I do get a few close ones from the Late Antiquity and Medieval periods. My closest Iron Age match is R435 (Palestrina Colombella), but the distance is the same as between me and modern Aosta Valley, Ireland or Scotland.

    My closest matches cluster between French, North Italians and Tuscans on the PCA plot.

    5.37220625 R116__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    7.20904987 R62___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.36330768 R1288_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.35316524 R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.67124604 R31___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    9.72943986 R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    10.44620505 R1286_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    10.53946868 R106__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    11.52549348 R1219_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    11.58007772 R108__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    11.70962852 R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    12.29774776 R435__Iron_Age_____Palestrina_Colombella
    12.42603316 R37___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    13.11173139 R109__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    14.39094507 R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    14.45028719 R63___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    15.92471036 R61___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    16.40958257 R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    17.08068793 R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    17.61555846 R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    18.83698490 R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    19.94637060 R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    20.90699883 R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    21.24613377 R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica
    21.64060766 R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    21.69135312 R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    22.39042653 R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
    22.77790596 R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima


    EDIT: Btw, I get 17% Central/South Italian at Living DNA, which slightly more Italian admixture than the Walloon average. My cousin is so far the highest with 20% (note that we do not have any recent Italian ancestry). Some Flemings get 0% while others get as much as 10%. There is definitely more Italian DNA (undoubtedly of Roman origin) among French-speaking Belgians. My Y-DNA also matches those of ancient Latin samples for the deep clade and my modern matches are mostly in central Italy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Here are my matches. I didn't expect close matches between a modern Belgian and ancient Italians, but I do get a few close ones from the Late Antiquity and Medieval periods. My closest Iron Age match is R435 (Palestrina Colombella), but the distance is the same as between me and modern Aosta Valley, Ireland or Scotland.

    My closest matches cluster between French, North Italians and Tuscans on the PCA plot.

    5.37220625 R116__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    7.20904987 R62___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.36330768 R1288_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.35316524 R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.67124604 R31___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    9.72943986 R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    10.44620505 R1286_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    10.53946868 R106__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    11.52549348 R1219_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    11.58007772 R108__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    11.70962852 R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    12.29774776 R435__Iron_Age_____Palestrina_Colombella
    12.42603316 R37___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    13.11173139 R109__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    14.39094507 R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    14.45028719 R63___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    15.92471036 R61___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    16.40958257 R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    17.08068793 R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    17.61555846 R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    18.83698490 R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    19.94637060 R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    20.90699883 R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    21.24613377 R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica
    21.64060766 R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    21.69135312 R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    22.39042653 R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
    22.77790596 R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima
    Yes, it all makes sense.

    Some of our North Italian members are getting hits of around 4 for some of the Iron Age samples, and Southern Italians get similarly close matches to others.

    Some of us get our highest scores with Balkan Bronze Age. I'm wondering if they could perhaps represent some sort of Italic/Celtic source population.
    For example...

    Distance to: IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    3.56275646 Italy_Lombardy
    4.78770749 Italy_Emilia
    4.93995082 Italy_Liguria
    5.14574766 Italy_Veneto
    5.39127537 Italy_Piedmont
    6.07536254 Italy_Tuscany
    6.54086099 Swiss_Italian
    7.53474883 Italy_Trentino
    8.14842046 France_Corsica
    8.45013349 Italy_FriuliVG
    8.57974941 Italy_Romagna
    9.78872702 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    11.74627933 Italy_Marche
    12.03777155 Italy_Lazio
    12.29336406 Albanian_North
    12.42080915 Albanian_Kosovo
    14.46197428 Baleares
    16.46757724 Galicia
    17.19215810 Extremadura
    17.51714611 Italy_Abruzzo
    18.13725448 Portuguese
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    19.05735291 Greek
    19.22266111 Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Yes, it all makes sense.

    Some of our North Italian members are getting hits of around 4 for some of the Iron Age samples, and Southern Italians get similarly close matches to others.

    Some of us get our highest scores with Balkan Bronze Age. I'm wondering if they could perhaps represent some sort of Italic/Celtic source population.
    For example...

    Distance to: IllyrianDalmatian_I3313
    3.56275646 Italy_Lombardy
    4.78770749 Italy_Emilia
    4.93995082 Italy_Liguria
    5.14574766 Italy_Veneto
    5.39127537 Italy_Piedmont
    6.07536254 Italy_Tuscany
    6.54086099 Swiss_Italian
    7.53474883 Italy_Trentino
    8.14842046 France_Corsica
    8.45013349 Italy_FriuliVG
    8.57974941 Italy_Romagna
    9.78872702 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    11.74627933 Italy_Marche
    12.03777155 Italy_Lazio
    12.29336406 Albanian_North
    12.42080915 Albanian_Kosovo
    14.46197428 Baleares
    16.46757724 Galicia
    17.19215810 Extremadura
    17.51714611 Italy_Abruzzo
    18.13725448 Portuguese
    18.50866554 Murcia
    18.86604092 Andalucia
    19.05735291 Greek
    19.22266111 Castilla_Y_Leon
    note that I3313 is a female sample

    I3313, Bronze Age, 1500-900 BCE


    http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135616
    doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/135616

    I3313
    mtDNA: HV0e



    the age of the sample would clearly make ( or a very good chance) this sample Illyrian/Dalmatian as the earliest "illyrians" appear in Noricum ( east Austria ) circa 1600BC

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    My father has 5 matches under 7 with a best match of 3.5.


    3.55874978 R62___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.05948614 R1288_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.22433129 R106__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    6.94794214 R1286_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.98381701 R31___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto


    My mother gets the closest match to Iron Age Latins in the family:

    11.66200240 R435__Iron_Age_____Palestrina_Colombella

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    note that I3313 is a female sample

    I3313, Bronze Age, 1500-900 BCE


    http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135616
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    the age of the sample would clearly make ( or a very good chance) this sample Illyrian/Dalmatian as the earliest "illyrians" appear in Noricum ( east Austria ) circa 1600BC
    I'm aware that's a female sample. It's not of any significance to the autosomal signature.

    The first mention of "Illyrians" is much later. Best to label these samples as Bronze Age Balkans. In this particular case, it's Croatia/Dalmatia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    My father has 5 matches under 7 with a best match of 3.5.


    3.55874978 R62___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.05948614 R1288_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.22433129 R106__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    6.94794214 R1286_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.98381701 R31___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto


    My mother gets the closest match to Iron Age Latins in the family:

    11.66200240 R435__Iron_Age_____Palestrina_Colombella
    A good number of the Late Antiquity and Medieval Era samples may very well have come from more northern parts of Europe; not everyone buried in a large urban center, particularly a site of pilgrimage, for example, is going to be a local.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    A good number of the Late Antiquity and Medieval Era samples may very well have come from more northern parts of Europe; not everyone buried in a large urban center, particularly a site of pilgrimage, for example, is going to be a local.
    That is very true. One way of estimating their place of origin is to run each medieval sample in Vahaduo and compare them to modern Dodecad K12b samples.

    My father's closest match is R62, which indeed turns out to be closest to French, German and Dutch with a genetic distance of 8 to 9, so probably of Belgian origin. Ditto for R1288 and R106. R31 and R1286 both seem to be German. That settles it. So much for those suspiciously closes matches.

    My mother has a few close matches that appear to be North Italian: R1220 (Medieval Cancelleria), R1224 (Medieval Cancelleria) and R108 (Late Antiquity Crypta Balbi). Her genetic distance is 6.3, 7 and 7.4 respectively.

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    Here's my results (3/4 Greek islander, 1/4 Alexandrian Greek):

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23abc View Post
    Here's my results (3/4 Greek islander, 1/4 Alexandrian Greek):
    Sorry, not sure why table disappeared...

    1.34070877 R115__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    2.90649273 R850__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    3.02545864 R1543_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    3.80295937 R34___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    3.80839861 R134__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    4.46077348 R1548_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    5.03899792 R81___Imperial_Era__Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
    5.10790564 R114__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    5.38621388 R50___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    5.61481077 R39___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    5.75908847 R123__Imperial_Era__Casale_del_Dolce
    5.89617673 R51___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    5.98849731 R41___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    6.02563690 R1545_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    6.11721342 R133__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    6.74057119 R66___Imperial_Era__ANAS
    6.97398738 R136__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    7.09596364 R53___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.73532805 R1544_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    7.73894050 R30___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    7.80460121 R436__Imperial_Era__Palestrina
    7.92708017 R75___Imperial_Era__Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
    8.07692392 R125__Imperial_Era__Casale_del_Dolce
    8.11168293 R137__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    8.30461318 R73___Imperial_Era__ANAS

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23abc View Post
    Sorry, not sure why table disappeared...

    1.34070877 R115__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    2.90649273 R850__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    3.02545864 R1543_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    3.80295937 R34___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    3.80839861 R134__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    4.46077348 R1548_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    5.03899792 R81___Imperial_Era__Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
    5.10790564 R114__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    5.38621388 R50___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    5.61481077 R39___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    5.75908847 R123__Imperial_Era__Casale_del_Dolce
    5.89617673 R51___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    5.98849731 R41___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    6.02563690 R1545_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    6.11721342 R133__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    6.74057119 R66___Imperial_Era__ANAS
    6.97398738 R136__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    7.09596364 R53___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.73532805 R1544_Imperial_Era__Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    7.73894050 R30___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    7.80460121 R436__Imperial_Era__Palestrina
    7.92708017 R75___Imperial_Era__Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
    8.07692392 R125__Imperial_Era__Casale_del_Dolce
    8.11168293 R137__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro
    8.30461318 R73___Imperial_Era__ANAS
    Well, I guess we have a time traveler here! :)

  24. #49
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    Distance to: Carlos
    3.23232115 R63___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.54412301 R435__Iron_Age_____Palestrina_Colombella
    5.61196935 R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    7.20074996 R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    8.17836169 R109__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    9.10872658 R116__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    9.14494396 R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    9.37802218 R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.39497206 R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.79244607 R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea
    9.93771100 R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    10.31501333 R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
    10.40655563 R37___Imperial_Era__Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
    10.71094300 R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica
    10.88690039 R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia
    10.89503098 R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima
    13.03174585 R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    13.04423628 R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    13.11199832 R61___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    13.39109032 R108__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    14.26568260 R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    15.40593717 R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    15.94191017 R62___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    17.45609922 R1288_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    18.63311836 R106__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    19.08495481 R1219_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    R63: Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (3.335)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (4.281)
    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (4.376)
    Etruscan (4.463)
    Gallo-Roman + Latin (4.543)
    Gallo-Roman (4.989)
    Latin + Etruscan (5.418)
    Visigoth (5.682)
    Iberian (9.217)
    Latin (10.43
    R435:Latin (Genetic match)
    R1289: Iberian + Latin (2.215)
    Iberian + Vascones (2.655)
    Vascones + Latin (3.05)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (3.36)
    Visigoth + Iberian (3.488)
    Iberian (4.151)
    Vascones (6.005)
    Latin (7.087)
    Gallo-Roman (9.058)
    Visigoth (9.818)
    R110:
    Vascones + Etruscan (2.367)
    Iberian + Vascones (2.794)
    Visigoth + Vascones (3.223)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (3.566)
    Visigoth + Iberian (4.1)
    Iberian (5.215)
    Vascones (6.177)
    Visigoth (7.181)
    Gallo-Roman (8.477)
    Etruscan (9.025)
    R109: R109: Gallo-Roman (Genetic match)
    R116: Visigoth + Celt (3.689)
    Celt + Gallo-Roman (3.823)
    Celt + Latin (5.605)
    Visigoth + Vascones (6.209)
    Celt + Vascones (6.29)
    Vascones (7.61)
    Celt (8.58)
    Visigoth (9.589)
    Latin (10.87)
    Gallo-Roman (11.26)
    R474: Etruscan (Genetic match)
    R1224: Celt + Ostrogoth (4.084)
    Celt + Vandal (6.858)
    Saxon + Ostrogoth (7.056)
    Celt + Frank (7.274)
    Saxon + Frank (7.628)
    Ostrogoth (8.999)
    Saxon (10.11)
    Frank (11.67)
    Vandal (12.26)
    Celt (12.72)
    R1221: Etruscan + Frank (4.984)
    Gallo-Roman + Frank (5.626)
    Visigoth + Frank (5.863)
    Frank + Illyrian (6.655)
    Visigoth + Illyrian (7.606)
    Frank (9.022)
    Visigoth (9.948)
    Illyrian (10.22)
    Etruscan (10.54)
    Gallo-Roman (11.97)
    R851: Latin (Genetic match)
    R105: Iberian + Illyrian (6.093)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (7.17)
    Etruscan + Illyrian (7.832)
    Visigoth + Illyrian (8.445)
    Visigoth + Iberian (8.524)
    Visigoth (10.74)
    Etruscan (10.88)
    Illyrian (11.53)
    Iberian (11.88)
    Gallo-Roman (12.77)
    R1015: Etruscan (Genetic match)
    R37: Gallo-Roman + Latin (6.047)
    Latin (6.817)
    Latin + Etruscan (7.089)
    Visigoth + Latin (7.105)
    Gallo-Roman (8.256)
    Iberian + Latin (8.281)
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (9.338)
    Etruscan (11.35)
    Visigoth (12.03)
    Iberian (12.28)
    R1021: Iberian + Latin (1.995)
    Iberian + Etruscan (2.231)
    Iberian (3.909)
    Visigoth + Latin (4.195)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (4.522)
    Latin + Etruscan (4.538)
    Latin (7.225)
    Gallo-Roman (7.364)
    Etruscan (9.226)
    Visigoth (9.265)
    R473: Etruscan (Genetic match)
    R1016: Latin (Genetic match)
    R1220: Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.209)
    Viking Icelandic + Ostrogoth (6.417)
    Celt + Frank (6.996)
    Saxon + Frank (7.404)
    Celt + Ostrogoth (7.484)
    Frank (9.524)
    Viking Icelandic (10.51)
    Celt (11.87)
    Saxon (11.88)
    Ostrogoth (11.99)
    R55: Illyrian (2.89)
    Etruscan + Illyrian (5.369)
    Al-Andalus + Illyrian (5.415)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.823)
    Visigoth + Illyrian (6.113)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (6.655)
    Al-Andalus (10.14)
    Etruscan (10.29)
    Gallo-Roman (11.05)
    Visigoth (12.41)
    R61: Visigoth + Etruscan (6.796)
    Visigoth + Al-Andalus (6.892)
    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (8.559)
    Visigoth + Illyrian (9.317)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (9.583)
    Gallo-Roman (10.97)
    Etruscan (11.22)
    Illyrian (11.22)
    Visigoth (11.63)
    Al-Andalus (11.63)
    R108: Gallo-Roman + Frank (3.723)
    Vascones + Frank (4.46)
    Visigoth + Vascones (4.729)
    Etruscan + Frank (4.997)
    Visigoth + Frank (5.107)
    Visigoth (7.62)
    Frank (8.358)
    Gallo-Roman (9.042)
    Etruscan (10.23)
    Vascones (11.91)
    R33: Etruscan + Illyrian (4.031)
    Visigoth + Illyrian (5.105)
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (5.518)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.524)
    Roman Hispania + Etruscan (5.842)
    Illyrian (6.104)
    Etruscan (7.295)
    Gallo-Roman (9.303)
    Visigoth (10.13)
    Roman Hispania (12.49)
    R1: Roman + Illyrian (3.087)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (3.926)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.552)
    Gallo-Roman (5.829)
    Gaul + Roman (5.895)
    Roman Hispania + Roman (6.222)
    Roman (7.154)
    Illyrian (7.43)
    Roman Hispania (12.19)
    Gaul (13.73)
    R62: Ostrogoth + Frank (5.412)
    Visigoth + Saxon (5.648)
    Saxon + Frank (6.068)
    Viking Danish + Ostrogoth (6.391)
    Saxon + Ostrogoth (6.475)
    Ostrogoth (7.932)
    Frank (9.23)
    Saxon (10.23)
    Visigoth (10.61)
    Viking Danish (11.69)
    R1288:
    R106:
    R1219: Viking + Celt (4.498)
    Viking Icelandic + Saxon (5.746)
    Saxon (5.886)
    Celt + Vandal (6.279)
    Viking Icelandic + Vandal (6.314)
    Celt + Saxon (6.317)
    Celt (8.566)
    Vandal (9.329)
    Viking Icelandic (9.789)
    Viking (9.826)

    It is good to have MTA as a source to know who the samples are about and to spread it to everyone.


    Target: Carlos
    Distance: 2.2578% / 2.25777663
    30.4 R31___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto

    28.6 R6____Neolithic_____Grotta_Continenza

    12.4 R57___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna

    8.8 R116__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis

    5.6 R63___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna

    5.2 R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi

    5.2 R132__Imperial_Era__Marcellino_&_Pietro

    3.8 R62___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna

    R31:
    R6:
    R57:
    R116: Visigoth + Celt (3.689)
    Celt + Gallo-Roman (3.823)
    Celt + Latin (5.605)
    Visigoth + Vascones (6.209)
    Celt + Vascones (6.29)
    Vascones (7.61)
    Celt (8.58)
    Visigoth (9.589)
    Latin (10.87)
    Gallo-Roman (11.26)
    R63: Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (3.335)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (4.281)
    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (4.376)
    Etruscan (4.463)
    Gallo-Roman + Latin (4.543)
    Gallo-Roman (4.989)
    Latin + Etruscan (5.418)
    Visigoth (5.682)
    Iberian (9.217)
    Latin (10.43
    R105: Etruscan (Genetic match)
    R132:
    R62:
    Ostrogoth + Frank (5.412)
    Visigoth + Saxon (5.648)
    Saxon + Frank (6.068)
    Viking Danish + Ostrogoth (6.391)
    Saxon + Ostrogoth (6.475)
    Ostrogoth (7.932)
    Frank (9.23)
    Saxon (10.23)
    Visigoth (10.61)
    Viking Danish (11.69)






    Last edited by Carlos; 01-02-20 at 22:15.

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    Distance to: New_Englander
    3.95953280 R60___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    4.29397252 R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    4.98184705 R1549_Imperial_Era__Monterotondo
    5.01274117 Italy_Lazio
    5.26657384 R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    6.29007695 Italy_Apulia
    6.43431566 Italy_Marche
    6.52223121 R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    6.64915032 R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio
    6.67253325 R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    6.71292783 R54___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    6.83311786 Italy_Abruzzo
    7.19560282 Albanian_Kosovo
    7.42528114 R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.87182317 R973__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    7.98444112 R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    7.98581868 Italy_Romagna
    8.04194628 R107__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    8.19025641 R836__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche
    8.29413045 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    8.68067970 R64___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    8.70839825 Albanian_North
    8.74982286 R59___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    9.31055315 R49___Imperial_Era__Centocelle_Necropolis
    9.44677194 Greek

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