Ancient Rome Test (Various Calculators)

Jovialis: Thanks again. You should be nominated for Eupedia Advisor of the Year for doing this. My Dodecad World9 results cuttoff < 10 for distances and Single Tab results for 0.25X.

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
1.10476242R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
1.31628264R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
1.32676298R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
1.53642442R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
1.82019230R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.04489609R32_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
2.05492092R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.13621160R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
2.24098193R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.30169503R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.39457721R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
2.88750758R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
3.06411488R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
3.20686763R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
3.28330626R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
3.31430234R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
3.36801128R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
3.49931422R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
3.50762028R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
4.45753295R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
4.70699479R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.13414063R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
5.21490172R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina
5.22246111R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.25441719R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.29788637R836_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
5.45075224R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.65911654R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.09511280R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro
6.23492582R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
6.81371411R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
6.81935481R69_Imperial_Era_ANAS
7.11560257R114_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.25623870R125_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce
7.33857616R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.39441005R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
8.03716368R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
8.09752431R137_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro
8.11970443R30_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
8.77823445R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
9.14531027R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria



Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 0.1789% / 0.17889678 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
18.8 R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
16.4 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
11.6 R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
3.4 R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
0.2 R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis



Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 0.1789% / 0.17889678 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
18.8R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
16.4R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
11.6R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
3.4R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
0.2R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
 
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In this thread I compared PCA of some of the various calculators. Dodecad K12b, Dodecad Globe 13, and Eurogenes K36. Thus far I think Globe13 or K12b looks the most spot on with the academic PCA.

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39753-Analysing-Iron-Age-Italian-samples/page4

Ok, thanks, I missed that thread. Thanks for that link. So Dodecad is closer to the academic than the Eurogenes K36 Calculator. Very interesting, very, very, interesting indeed. Kudos.
 
Dod K9 World - samples from post #119
... Thanks Jovialis
(y)

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my DoD K9

Distance to:TorzioK9
1.28074197R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.50930269R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
3.31593124R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
3.32786718R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
3.43620430R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
5.63324063R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.66551573R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
6.91682008R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
7.28159323R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
7.82549679R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.69916088R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
8.77524359R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
9.43251292R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
10.04025896R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
10.08766574R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica
10.80318472R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
11.32387743R851_Iron_Age_Ardea
11.76280579R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
12.00892168R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
12.16599359R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
12.23213800R106_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
12.26711050R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
12.54048245R435_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Colombella
12.56047770R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
13.13749976R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna



95.4R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
4.6R106_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
Target: TorzioK9
Distance: 0.7928% / 0.79280683 | ADC: 0.25x
88.6R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.2R106_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
4.2R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro

Target: TorzioK9
Distance: 0.8996% / 0.89962144 | ADC: 0.5x

 
My Dod K9


3.97118370 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
5.45486022 R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
5.50997278 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
5.70994746 R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
5.84058216 R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.85994027 R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.72451485 R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
6.92312068 R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
7.42118589 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
7.56813716 R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
9.43442102 R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
9.47867079 R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
10.28306375 R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
10.82091031 R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
11.00523512 R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
11.13513359 R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
11.28965899 R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
11.60294359 R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
11.74901272 R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
11.80821324 R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
12.08486243 R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
12.34412816 R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
12.39586625 R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
12.70332634 R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
12.80487798 R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna


Target: Stuvanè:Dodecad_World9
Distance: 0.4604% / 0.46036678 | ADC: 0.25x

43.0 R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
32.4 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
23.6 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
1.0 R16_Neolithic_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
 
Here is a list that links all of the versions of the test, thus far:

Dodecad K12b

Dodecad K7b


Dodecad World9

MDLP K16

Eurogenes K15


thanks jovialis for all hard work (y)

my mdlp k16 ancient ( anatolia_chl )

Distance to:adam
13.77152134Anatolia_ChL
15.52554669Armenia_ChL
16.41200475HungaryGamba_MBA.SG
17.60146869Balkan-LBA
19.20436409Bell_Beaker
19.44843696Armenia_MLBA
19.80089897Armenia-LBA
21.01398344Anatolian-Neolithic
21.94831656British-Roman
22.01596466Armenia-MBA
22.25653612Anatolia_Neolithic_1d_rel_I0736
22.26118146Iran_recent
22.41621734Anatolia_Neolithic
24.25894886Levant_N
24.78798096Levant_BA
25.33708744GermanStuttgart_LBK
25.65137033Iran_Lor
25.86119487Armenia_EBA
25.92688952Iran-IronAge
26.63887010Maros.SG
27.90224185Unetice
28.58993179Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland.SG
29.34659094Tyrolean_Iceman
29.34693340Bell_Beaker_Germany.SG
29.61229137Vatya.SG
 
Jovialis: Nice presentation. Glad you did this, got me away from the Covid-19 forums. In post 122, you demonstrated, empirically by analyzing the data, that Dodecad GlobeB and Dodecad 12B out performed Eurogenes K36 in terms of how well those models performed vs. the Sample Plots from Antionio/Moots et al 2019 Figure 2. Looking at your results above, it seems again the 3 Dodecad Models (K7B, World9, and K12B) and also MDLP16 all provide better fits than Eurogenes K15.

My results are very similar to yours. Dodecad 7B ( my post #118) provides best fits (closest distance is 0.839, 0.25X=0.167%), Dodecad World9 (my post 123) next (closest distance 1.10, 0.25X 0.1789%), Dodecad K12B (post 82) is next (single distance 2.59 0.25X=0.6595%), MDLP16 (post 117) is next (single distance 2.96, 0.25X=0.9581%) and then finally Eurogenes K15 (post 102) is next (single distance 5.54, 0.25X=1.027%).

From following others posters who are either Italians (from various regions) or Americans of Italian ancestry (from various regions) or Australians of Italian ancestry, etc, it seems that all seem to get better fits with the Dodecad models, MDLP seems intermediate and the Eurogenes Models provide the worst fits for people with Italian ancestry from somewhere in Italy's 20 Regions. So obviously this to me raises questions, why is that? 2) Hypothetically, do people who have no significant Italian ancestry get better fits with the Eurogenes Models when using the Ancient Roman Samples from Antionio/Moots et al 2019.

Finally, referring back to your post #122, which you did model fitting test vs. Antonio et al 2019 Figure 2 plots using Eurogenes K36, Dodecad K12B and Dodecad Globe13, what are the best performing models when you also include Dodecad 7B, Dodecad World9, MDLP16 and Eurogenes K15 vs Antonio et al 2019 Figure 2 plots. In my opinion, that would provide a neat analysis to see which of these models not only provide the best fits and rank them 1 to 7, but then go to the more statistical type questions with respect to Why? Sampling errors on part of Researcher which could bias parameter estimates or weights in this case for each reference population, variable measurement issues, etc.

Being here for as long as I have been and reading some of the post about views held by some who post over at Eurogenes Blog (I am not a member there for the record), some posters who use to post here (no longer do), I have my ex ante priors on why Eurogenes Models provide poorer fits for people of Italian ancestry relative to Antonio et al 2019 Figure 2 results, but I will keep them to myself and hope that Advisors like yourself, or others (Angela) might provide some insight on it.

Regardless and In summary, it is clear the Dodecad Models from it seems all here with Italian ancestry from somewhere in Italy's 20 regions provide good fits. Eurogenes models, not so much.
 
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Fwiw, Dodecad 7b and World 9 have always given me the best fits, 2+, versus Eurogenes, for example, 6+. That's one of the measures of the "accuracy" of a calculator, isn't it, to simplify? How close are the fits for people with all four grandparents from one area?

K7b
5.71735953R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
5.72271789R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.11417206R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.25399073R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.34234184R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
6.88899848R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
7.14289857R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
7.36155554R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.63729664R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
7.95746191R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
8.15919114R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
8.27842980R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
9.02724210R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
10.27778673R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
10.93756829R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
11.64678926R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
11.70927410R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
11.98543282R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
12.05152687R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
12.30417002R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
12.46123188R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
12.66295779R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
12.85353259R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica
12.91390723R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
13.16484713R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna

My fits with Iron Age samples are closer for both.

World 9
5.02847890R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
5.31779089R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
5.74825191R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
5.75670044R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
5.93833310R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
6.35736581R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.83714122R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
7.53388346R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
7.61102490R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
7.72309523R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
8.52307456R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
9.56302776R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
10.29455196R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
10.74582244R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
11.09371444R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
11.17668108R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
11.30177862R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
11.50442089R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
11.78722614R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
11.95373582R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
12.12062705R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
12.49628745R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
12.56839687R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
12.60475307R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
12.72669635R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi

MDLP K16:This is quite different, with the order switching markedly.
4.68238187R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
7.31528537R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.31931691R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
7.37836703R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
7.40014865R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
7.52842613R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.76057076R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
8.78867453R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
8.82384270R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
9.51737884R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
9.62693098R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
9.72965056R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica
10.14348066R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
10.22912508R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
10.42451438R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
10.44830130R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
10.46038240R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
10.61404730R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
10.61711825R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
10.72111468R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
11.05460085R851_Iron_Age_Ardea
11.18515087R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
11.72047781R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
11.76762083R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
11.91373577R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche

K12b-just for the heck of it I used the vahaduo ancients K12b list updated by Jovialis, but you can still see where the "Roman" samples start. See what I mean about Roman Iron Age?

I wonder if with K7b and World 8 I'd be even closer to those Balkan samples, or maybe Szolad.

Well, this is getting my mind off our health for a while, thanks to Jovialis.

K12b

5.96067110I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
5.96285167I8475_NE_Iberia_RomP_atypical
6.06036303I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
6.16793320R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.20598904R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.36315173Szolad43
6.86379633I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN
6.88215809R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
6.99657773I2176_Balkans_BronzeAge
7.16551464I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
7.41494437I2175_Balkans_BronzeAge
7.68900514Collegno36
8.12881295ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197
8.38781259Szolad28
8.75370207Bul6_Balkans_BronzeAge
8.85352472Bul10_Balkans_BronzeAge
8.99296392Szolad31
9.00708055Collegno23
9.01179227R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
9.05183407ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192
9.10498215R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
9.23041169I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
9.25520934R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
9.31019871ScythianMoldova_SCY300
9.40529638R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio


K15...much, much, much worse for the majority of them
Distance to:Angela
6.23683413IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
10.08218230IA_Civitavecchia_R474
10.37367341BronzAgeBalkan
10.70144850Vucedol_I3499
10.81427298EMBA_Croatia_I4331
11.41200245ScythianMoldova_SCY197
12.63404527BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
13.02699121IA_Civitavecchia_R473
13.44933827ScythianMoldova_SCY300
14.74471431IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
15.66575884IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
15.74114672Bavaria_STR310
15.76888075IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
16.55643681IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
16.60224684IA_Ardea_R851
18.01145469IronAgeBalkan
18.58877080Scythian_SCY311
18.68457385IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
18.91148857IA_Civitavecchia_R475
19.53576208MedievalHungarian_DA199
20.00811835Mycenaean_I9041
22.34370829BR2_Hungary
23.08357425NorthItalian_HGDP01171
23.51881800IA_Ardea_R850
23.68841278Crimean_Goth_KER1

Enough with the Eurogenes calculators, I think.

Stuvane, I think we're closer together on K7b.

Salento, I think you're a time traveling Imperial Era Roman. :)
 
... the Calculators:

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^^Once again, for you, Angela, and myself, Eurogenes gives the worst fits by a relatively significant margin. The fact that both Dodecad calculators, and MLDP K16 give better fits seems to make Eurogenes the odd man out...
 
i did a mistake lol :LOL:
i should have run the roman samples not the general ancients :embarassed:
this is my mdlp k16 ancient jovialis roman samples results :
Distance to:adam
3.57931558R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro
3.83826784R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
4.21292060R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
4.44692028R125_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce
4.86928126R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.03288188R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.23046843R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.30051884R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.46217905R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
5.51191437R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
5.70368302R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.90371917R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.91356069R836_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
5.92687945R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
5.96477996R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
5.96699254R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.98993322R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.01954317R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
6.08649324R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
6.23221469R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
6.48316281R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
6.57984802R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
6.60778329R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.77631906R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.93431323R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
 
k15 ancient with jovialis roman samples (y)

Distance to:adam
6.51698550R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.87621989R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.11559555R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro
7.47608186R1548_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
7.49120818R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
7.62566063R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.80150626R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
8.09692534R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.37169636R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.45464961R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.47731679R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
8.57275918R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.62985516R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina
8.81258191R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
9.09290933R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
9.10539950R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
9.10875952R114_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
9.33809938R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
9.95745449R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
9.97565537R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
10.00501874R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
10.13111544R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
10.18690336R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
10.19545487R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
10.21143966R30_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
 
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k13 ancient ( with the updated roman samples of jovialis now IA ardea outlier and the mixed crusader distance 8
at the bottom
and i am much more closer to R136 and R114)
Distance to:adam
4.86806943R136_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
5.39849979R114_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
5.78741739R54_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
5.88250797R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
6.49955383R1548_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
6.67195623R117_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
6.67275805R58_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
6.73824903R53_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
6.91471619R56_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
7.27629714R64_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
7.32000000R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
7.46088467R47_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
7.53130799R35_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
7.74080099R60_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy
7.81662331R436_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
8.03706414R835_Marche_Roman_Imperial
8.19008547Crusader_SI53_Kingdom_of_Jerusalem_
8.21566187R1549_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
8.53481693R59_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy
8.64140614R1544_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
8.68650102R131_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
8.73009164R57_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
8.79382738R1290_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
8.79715295R65_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
8.87071023R850_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Iron_Age
 
^I didn't create coordinates for Eurogenes K13. I don't know who is the author of these.
ok my mistake ....
maybe lukasz ...... :unsure:
 

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