Ancient Rome Test (Various Calculators)

[Jovialis]

^
In this thread I compared PCA of some of the various calculators. Dodecad K12b, Dodecad Globe 13, and Eurogenes K36. Thus far I think Globe13 or K12b looks the most spot on with the academic PCA.

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39753-Analysing-Iron-Age-Italian-samples/page4

 

[Palermo Trapani]

Jovialis: Thanks again. You should be nominated for Eupedia Advisor of the Year for doing this. My Dodecad World9 results cuttoff < 10 for distances and Single Tab results for 0.25X.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]PalermoTrapani[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #26FF00, align: right"]1.10476242[/TD]
[TD]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2DFF00, align: right"]1.31628264[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2DFF00, align: right"]1.32676298[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #34FF00, align: right"]1.53642442[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3EFF00, align: right"]1.82019230[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #46FF00, align: right"]2.04489609[/TD]
[TD]R32_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #46FF00, align: right"]2.05492092[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #49FF00, align: right"]2.13621160[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4CFF00, align: right"]2.24098193[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4EFF00, align: right"]2.30169503[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #51FF00, align: right"]2.39457721[/TD]
[TD]R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #62FF00, align: right"]2.88750758[/TD]
[TD]R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #68FF00, align: right"]3.06411488[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6DFF00, align: right"]3.20686763[/TD]
[TD]R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #70FF00, align: right"]3.28330626[/TD]
[TD]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #71FF00, align: right"]3.31430234[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #73FF00, align: right"]3.36801128[/TD]
[TD]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #77FF00, align: right"]3.49931422[/TD]
[TD]R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #77FF00, align: right"]3.50762028[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #98FF00, align: right"]4.45753295[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A0FF00, align: right"]4.70699479[/TD]
[TD]R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AFFF00, align: right"]5.13414063[/TD]
[TD]R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B1FF00, align: right"]5.21490172[/TD]
[TD]R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]5.22246111[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B3FF00, align: right"]5.25441719[/TD]
[TD]R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]5.29788637[/TD]
[TD]R836_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B9FF00, align: right"]5.45075224[/TD]
[TD]R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C0FF00, align: right"]5.65911654[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.09511280[/TD]
[TD]R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.23492582[/TD]
[TD]R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]6.81371411[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]6.81935481[/TD]
[TD]R69_Imperial_Era_ANAS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]7.11560257[/TD]
[TD]R114_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]7.25623870[/TD]
[TD]R125_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]7.33857616[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FBFF00, align: right"]7.39441005[/TD]
[TD]R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.03716368[/TD]
[TD]R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.09752431[/TD]
[TD]R137_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]8.11970443[/TD]
[TD]R30_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD400, align: right"]8.77823445[/TD]
[TD]R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]9.14531027[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]



Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 0.1789% / 0.17889678 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
18.8 R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
16.4 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
11.6 R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
3.4 R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
0.2 R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 0.1789% / 0.17889678 | ADC: 0.25x
[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]49.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]18.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]11.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]3.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]0.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis[/TD]

 

[Palermo Trapani]

^
In this thread I compared PCA of some of the various calculators. Dodecad K12b, Dodecad Globe 13, and Eurogenes K36. Thus far I think Globe13 or K12b looks the most spot on with the academic PCA.

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39753-Analysing-Iron-Age-Italian-samples/page4

Ok, thanks, I missed that thread. Thanks for that link. So Dodecad is closer to the academic than the Eurogenes K36 Calculator. Very interesting, very, very, interesting indeed. Kudos.

 

[Salento]

Dod K9 World - samples from post #119
... Thanks Jovialis

 

[torzio]

my DoD K9

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]TorzioK9[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1.28074197[/TD]
[TD]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2.50930269[/TD]
[TD]R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3.31593124[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3.32786718[/TD]
[TD]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3.43620430[/TD]
[TD]R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5.63324063[/TD]
[TD]R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.66551573[/TD]
[TD]R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.91682008[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7.28159323[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7.82549679[/TD]
[TD]R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8.69916088[/TD]
[TD]R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8.77524359[/TD]
[TD]R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9.43251292[/TD]
[TD]R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.04025896[/TD]
[TD]R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.08766574[/TD]
[TD]R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.80318472[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11.32387743[/TD]
[TD]R851_Iron_Age_Ardea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11.76280579[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.00892168[/TD]
[TD]R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.16599359[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.23213800[/TD]
[TD]R106_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.26711050[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.54048245[/TD]
[TD]R435_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Colombella[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.56047770[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13.13749976[/TD]
[TD]R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Target: TorzioK9
Distance: 0.8996% / 0.89962144 | ADC: 0.5x

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]95.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]4.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R106_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]

---

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: TorzioK9
Distance: 0.7928% / 0.79280683 | ADC: 0.25x
[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]88.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]7.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R106_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]4.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]

 

[Stuvanè]

My Dod K9


3.97118370 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
5.45486022 R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
5.50997278 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
5.70994746 R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
5.84058216 R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.85994027 R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
6.72451485 R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
6.92312068 R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
7.42118589 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
7.56813716 R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
9.43442102 R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
9.47867079 R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
10.28306375 R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
10.82091031 R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
11.00523512 R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
11.13513359 R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
11.28965899 R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
11.60294359 R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
11.74901272 R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
11.80821324 R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
12.08486243 R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
12.34412816 R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
12.39586625 R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
12.70332634 R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
12.80487798 R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna


Target: Stuvanèodecad_World9
Distance: 0.4604% / 0.46036678 | ADC: 0.25x

43.0 R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
32.4 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
23.6 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
1.0 R16_Neolithic_Ripabianca_di_Monterado

 

[Jovialis]

Here is a list that links all of the versions of the test, thus far:

Dodecad K12b

Dodecad K7b

Dodecad World9

MDLP K16

Eurogenes K15

 

[kingdavid]

Here is a list that links all of the versions of the test, thus far:

Dodecad K12b

Dodecad K7b

Dodecad World9

MDLP K16

Eurogenes K15

thanks jovialis for all hard work

my mdlp k16 ancient ( anatolia_chl )

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]adam[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2A00, align: right"]13.77152134[/TD]
[TD]Anatolia_ChL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0012, align: right"]15.52554669[/TD]
[TD]Armenia_ChL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0030, align: right"]16.41200475[/TD]
[TD]HungaryGamba_MBA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0058, align: right"]17.60146869[/TD]
[TD]Balkan-LBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008F, align: right"]19.20436409[/TD]
[TD]Bell_Beaker[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0097, align: right"]19.44843696[/TD]
[TD]Armenia_MLBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A3, align: right"]19.80089897[/TD]
[TD]Armenia-LBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CC, align: right"]21.01398344[/TD]
[TD]Anatolian-Neolithic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EC, align: right"]21.94831656[/TD]
[TD]British-Roman[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EF, align: right"]22.01596466[/TD]
[TD]Armenia-MBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00F7, align: right"]22.25653612[/TD]
[TD]Anatolia_Neolithic_1d_rel_I0736[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00F7, align: right"]22.26118146[/TD]
[TD]Iran_recent[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FC, align: right"]22.41621734[/TD]
[TD]Anatolia_Neolithic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C300FF, align: right"]24.25894886[/TD]
[TD]Levant_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B100FF, align: right"]24.78798096[/TD]
[TD]Levant_BA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9F00FF, align: right"]25.33708744[/TD]
[TD]GermanStuttgart_LBK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9400FF, align: right"]25.65137033[/TD]
[TD]Iran_Lor[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8D00FF, align: right"]25.86119487[/TD]
[TD]Armenia_EBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8A00FF, align: right"]25.92688952[/TD]
[TD]Iran-IronAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7200FF, align: right"]26.63887010[/TD]
[TD]Maros.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4700FF, align: right"]27.90224185[/TD]
[TD]Unetice[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3000FF, align: right"]28.58993179[/TD]
[TD]Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #1600FF, align: right"]29.34659094[/TD]
[TD]Tyrolean_Iceman[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #1600FF, align: right"]29.34693340[/TD]
[TD]Bell_Beaker_Germany.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0D00FF, align: right"]29.61229137[/TD]
[TD]Vatya.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Jovialis]

Here are my results for all of the calculators. Dodecad K7b gives me the best fits; Eurogenes K15 gives me the worst.

 

[Palermo Trapani]

Jovialis: Nice presentation. Glad you did this, got me away from the Covid-19 forums. In post 122, you demonstrated, empirically by analyzing the data, that Dodecad GlobeB and Dodecad 12B out performed Eurogenes K36 in terms of how well those models performed vs. the Sample Plots from Antionio/Moots et al 2019 Figure 2. Looking at your results above, it seems again the 3 Dodecad Models (K7B, World9, and K12B) and also MDLP16 all provide better fits than Eurogenes K15.

My results are very similar to yours. Dodecad 7B ( my post #118) provides best fits (closest distance is 0.839, 0.25X=0.167%), Dodecad World9 (my post 123) next (closest distance 1.10, 0.25X 0.1789%), Dodecad K12B (post 82) is next (single distance 2.59 0.25X=0.6595%), MDLP16 (post 117) is next (single distance 2.96, 0.25X=0.9581%) and then finally Eurogenes K15 (post 102) is next (single distance 5.54, 0.25X=1.027%).

From following others posters who are either Italians (from various regions) or Americans of Italian ancestry (from various regions) or Australians of Italian ancestry, etc, it seems that all seem to get better fits with the Dodecad models, MDLP seems intermediate and the Eurogenes Models provide the worst fits for people with Italian ancestry from somewhere in Italy's 20 Regions. So obviously this to me raises questions, why is that? 2) Hypothetically, do people who have no significant Italian ancestry get better fits with the Eurogenes Models when using the Ancient Roman Samples from Antionio/Moots et al 2019.

Finally, referring back to your post #122, which you did model fitting test vs. Antonio et al 2019 Figure 2 plots using Eurogenes K36, Dodecad K12B and Dodecad Globe13, what are the best performing models when you also include Dodecad 7B, Dodecad World9, MDLP16 and Eurogenes K15 vs Antonio et al 2019 Figure 2 plots. In my opinion, that would provide a neat analysis to see which of these models not only provide the best fits and rank them 1 to 7, but then go to the more statistical type questions with respect to Why? Sampling errors on part of Researcher which could bias parameter estimates or weights in this case for each reference population, variable measurement issues, etc.

Being here for as long as I have been and reading some of the post about views held by some who post over at Eurogenes Blog (I am not a member there for the record), some posters who use to post here (no longer do), I have my ex ante priors on why Eurogenes Models provide poorer fits for people of Italian ancestry relative to Antonio et al 2019 Figure 2 results, but I will keep them to myself and hope that Advisors like yourself, or others (Angela) might provide some insight on it.

Regardless and In summary, it is clear the Dodecad Models from it seems all here with Italian ancestry from somewhere in Italy's 20 regions provide good fits. Eurogenes models, not so much.

 

[Angela]

Fwiw, Dodecad 7b and World 9 have always given me the best fits, 2+, versus Eurogenes, for example, 6+. That's one of the measures of the "accuracy" of a calculator, isn't it, to simplify? How close are the fits for people with all four grandparents from one area?

K7b
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C2FF00, align: right"]5.71735953[/TD]
[TD]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.72271789[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D0FF00, align: right"]6.11417206[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]6.25399073[/TD]
[TD]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.34234184[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]6.88899848[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.14289857[/TD]
[TD]R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]7.36155554[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]7.63729664[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]7.95746191[/TD]
[TD]R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE900, align: right"]8.15919114[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.27842980[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCB00, align: right"]9.02724210[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA100, align: right"]10.27778673[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8A00, align: right"]10.93756829[/TD]
[TD]R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7200, align: right"]11.64678926[/TD]
[TD]R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7000, align: right"]11.70927410[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6600, align: right"]11.98543282[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6400, align: right"]12.05152687[/TD]
[TD]R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5C00, align: right"]12.30417002[/TD]
[TD]R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5600, align: right"]12.46123188[/TD]
[TD]R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4F00, align: right"]12.66295779[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4900, align: right"]12.85353259[/TD]
[TD]R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4700, align: right"]12.91390723[/TD]
[TD]R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3E00, align: right"]13.16484713[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

My fits with Iron Age samples are closer for both.

World 9
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ABFF00, align: right"]5.02847890[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]5.31779089[/TD]
[TD]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.74825191[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C4FF00, align: right"]5.75670044[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]5.93833310[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.35736581[/TD]
[TD]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]6.83714122[/TD]
[TD]R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]7.53388346[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]7.61102490[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF700, align: right"]7.72309523[/TD]
[TD]R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDC00, align: right"]8.52307456[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB900, align: right"]9.56302776[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA000, align: right"]10.29455196[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9100, align: right"]10.74582244[/TD]
[TD]R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8500, align: right"]11.09371444[/TD]
[TD]R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8200, align: right"]11.17668108[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7E00, align: right"]11.30177862[/TD]
[TD]R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7700, align: right"]11.50442089[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6D00, align: right"]11.78722614[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6800, align: right"]11.95373582[/TD]
[TD]R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6200, align: right"]12.12062705[/TD]
[TD]R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5500, align: right"]12.49628745[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5300, align: right"]12.56839687[/TD]
[TD]R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5100, align: right"]12.60475307[/TD]
[TD]R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4D00, align: right"]12.72669635[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

MDLP K16:This is quite different, with the order switching markedly.
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9FFF00, align: right"]4.68238187[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]7.31528537[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]7.31931691[/TD]
[TD]R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FBFF00, align: right"]7.37836703[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FCFF00, align: right"]7.40014865[/TD]
[TD]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]7.52842613[/TD]
[TD]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD400, align: right"]8.76057076[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD300, align: right"]8.78867453[/TD]
[TD]R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]8.82384270[/TD]
[TD]R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBA00, align: right"]9.51737884[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.62693098[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB300, align: right"]9.72965056[/TD]
[TD]R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA500, align: right"]10.14348066[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA200, align: right"]10.22912508[/TD]
[TD]R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9C00, align: right"]10.42451438[/TD]
[TD]R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9B00, align: right"]10.44830130[/TD]
[TD]R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9A00, align: right"]10.46038240[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9500, align: right"]10.61404730[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9500, align: right"]10.61711825[/TD]
[TD]R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9100, align: right"]10.72111468[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8600, align: right"]11.05460085[/TD]
[TD]R851_Iron_Age_Ardea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8200, align: right"]11.18515087[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7000, align: right"]11.72047781[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6E00, align: right"]11.76762083[/TD]
[TD]R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6900, align: right"]11.91373577[/TD]
[TD]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

K12b-just for the heck of it I used the vahaduo ancients K12b list updated by Jovialis, but you can still see where the "Roman" samples start. See what I mean about Roman Iron Age?

I wonder if with K7b and World 8 I'd be even closer to those Balkan samples, or maybe Szolad.

Well, this is getting my mind off our health for a while, thanks to Jovialis.

K12b

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]5.96067110[/TD]
[TD]I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]5.96285167[/TD]
[TD]I8475_NE_Iberia_RomP_atypical[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CEFF00, align: right"]6.06036303[/TD]
[TD]I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]6.16793320[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D3FF00, align: right"]6.20598904[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.36315173[/TD]
[TD]Szolad43[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9FF00, align: right"]6.86379633[/TD]
[TD]I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]6.88215809[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]6.99657773[/TD]
[TD]I2176_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4FF00, align: right"]7.16551464[/TD]
[TD]I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FCFF00, align: right"]7.41494437[/TD]
[TD]I2175_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF900, align: right"]7.68900514[/TD]
[TD]Collegno36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]8.12881295[/TD]
[TD]ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38781259[/TD]
[TD]Szolad28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD400, align: right"]8.75370207[/TD]
[TD]Bul6_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD100, align: right"]8.85352472[/TD]
[TD]Bul10_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]8.99296392[/TD]
[TD]Szolad31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]9.00708055[/TD]
[TD]Collegno23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]9.01179227[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.05183407[/TD]
[TD]ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]9.10498215[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC400, align: right"]9.23041169[/TD]
[TD]I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]9.25520934[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]9.31019871[/TD]
[TD]ScythianMoldova_SCY300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBE00, align: right"]9.40529638[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


K15...much, much, much worse for the majority of them
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Angela[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.23683413[/TD]
[TD]IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA700, align: right"]10.08218230[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9D00, align: right"]10.37367341[/TD]
[TD]BronzAgeBalkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9200, align: right"]10.70144850[/TD]
[TD]Vucedol_I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8E00, align: right"]10.81427298[/TD]
[TD]EMBA_Croatia_I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7A00, align: right"]11.41200245[/TD]
[TD]ScythianMoldova_SCY197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5000, align: right"]12.63404527[/TD]
[TD]BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4300, align: right"]13.02699121[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3500, align: right"]13.44933827[/TD]
[TD]ScythianMoldova_SCY300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0900, align: right"]14.74471431[/TD]
[TD]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0017, align: right"]15.66575884[/TD]
[TD]IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0019, align: right"]15.74114672[/TD]
[TD]Bavaria_STR310[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001A, align: right"]15.76888075[/TD]
[TD]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0035, align: right"]16.55643681[/TD]
[TD]IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0036, align: right"]16.60224684[/TD]
[TD]IA_Ardea_R851[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0066, align: right"]18.01145469[/TD]
[TD]IronAgeBalkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF007A, align: right"]18.58877080[/TD]
[TD]Scythian_SCY311[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF007D, align: right"]18.68457385[/TD]
[TD]IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0085, align: right"]18.91148857[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R475[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009A, align: right"]19.53576208[/TD]
[TD]MedievalHungarian_DA199[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00AA, align: right"]20.00811835[/TD]
[TD]Mycenaean_I9041[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FA, align: right"]22.34370829[/TD]
[TD]BR2_Hungary[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EB00FF, align: right"]23.08357425[/TD]
[TD]NorthItalian_HGDP01171[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DC00FF, align: right"]23.51881800[/TD]
[TD]IA_Ardea_R850[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D700FF, align: right"]23.68841278[/TD]
[TD]Crimean_Goth_KER1[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Enough with the Eurogenes calculators, I think.

Stuvane, I think we're closer together on K7b.

Salento, I think you're a time traveling Imperial Era Roman.

 

[Jovialis]

Here is the Dodecad K12b PCA, with Roman samples, Modern Italian, and West Eurasian samples.

 

[Salento]

... the Calculators:

 

[Jovialis]

^^Once again, for you, Angela, and myself, Eurogenes gives the worst fits by a relatively significant margin. The fact that both Dodecad calculators, and MLDP K16 give better fits seems to make Eurogenes the odd man out...

 

[kingdavid]

i did a mistake lol
i should have run the roman samples not the general ancients :embarassed:
this is my mdlp k16 ancient jovialis roman samples results :
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]adam[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7AFF00, align: right"]3.57931558[/TD]
[TD]R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #83FF00, align: right"]3.83826784[/TD]
[TD]R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8FFF00, align: right"]4.21292060[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #97FF00, align: right"]4.44692028[/TD]
[TD]R125_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A6FF00, align: right"]4.86928126[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ABFF00, align: right"]5.03288188[/TD]
[TD]R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]5.23046843[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]5.30051884[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.46217905[/TD]
[TD]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BBFF00, align: right"]5.51191437[/TD]
[TD]R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C2FF00, align: right"]5.70368302[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C9FF00, align: right"]5.90371917[/TD]
[TD]R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C9FF00, align: right"]5.91356069[/TD]
[TD]R836_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]5.92687945[/TD]
[TD]R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]5.96477996[/TD]
[TD]R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]5.96699254[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00, align: right"]5.98993322[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.01954317[/TD]
[TD]R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.08649324[/TD]
[TD]R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.23221469[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DCFF00, align: right"]6.48316281[/TD]
[TD]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E0FF00, align: right"]6.57984802[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E1FF00, align: right"]6.60778329[/TD]
[TD]R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]6.77631906[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ECFF00, align: right"]6.93431323[/TD]
[TD]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[kingdavid]

k15 ancient with jovialis roman samples

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]adam[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]6.51698550[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]6.87621989[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]7.11559555[/TD]
[TD]R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FEFF00, align: right"]7.47608186[/TD]
[TD]R1548_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00, align: right"]7.49120818[/TD]
[TD]R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]7.62566063[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF500, align: right"]7.80150626[/TD]
[TD]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.09692534[/TD]
[TD]R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.37169636[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDF00, align: right"]8.45464961[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDE00, align: right"]8.47731679[/TD]
[TD]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDB00, align: right"]8.57275918[/TD]
[TD]R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD900, align: right"]8.62985516[/TD]
[TD]R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]8.81258191[/TD]
[TD]R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC900, align: right"]9.09290933[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]9.10539950[/TD]
[TD]R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]9.10875952[/TD]
[TD]R114_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]9.33809938[/TD]
[TD]R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAB00, align: right"]9.95745449[/TD]
[TD]R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAB00, align: right"]9.97565537[/TD]
[TD]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAA00, align: right"]10.00501874[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA600, align: right"]10.13111544[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA400, align: right"]10.18690336[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]10.19545487[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]10.21143966[/TD]
[TD]R30_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[kingdavid]

k13 ancient ( with the updated roman samples of jovialis now IA ardea outlier and the mixed crusader distance 8
at the bottom
and i am much more closer to R136 and R114)[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]adam[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A6FF00, align: right"]4.86806943[/TD]
[TD]R136_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]5.39849979[/TD]
[TD]R114_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]5.78741739[/TD]
[TD]R54_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C8FF00, align: right"]5.88250797[/TD]
[TD]R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DDFF00, align: right"]6.49955383[/TD]
[TD]R1548_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E3FF00, align: right"]6.67195623[/TD]
[TD]R117_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E3FF00, align: right"]6.67275805[/TD]
[TD]R58_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E5FF00, align: right"]6.73824903[/TD]
[TD]R53_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]6.91471619[/TD]
[TD]R56_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]7.27629714[/TD]
[TD]R64_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]7.32000000[/TD]
[TD]R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FEFF00, align: right"]7.46088467[/TD]
[TD]R47_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]7.53130799[/TD]
[TD]R35_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF700, align: right"]7.74080099[/TD]
[TD]R60_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF400, align: right"]7.81662331[/TD]
[TD]R436_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.03706414[/TD]
[TD]R835_Marche_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE800, align: right"]8.19008547[/TD]
[TD]Crusader_SI53_Kingdom_of_Jerusalem_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE700, align: right"]8.21566187[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDC00, align: right"]8.53481693[/TD]
[TD]R59_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]8.64140614[/TD]
[TD]R1544_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD700, align: right"]8.68650102[/TD]
[TD]R131_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD500, align: right"]8.73009164[/TD]
[TD]R57_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD300, align: right"]8.79382738[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD300, align: right"]8.79715295[/TD]
[TD]R65_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]8.87071023[/TD]
[TD]R850_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Iron_Age[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Jovialis]

^I didn't create coordinates for Eurogenes K13. I don't know who is the author of these.

 

[kingdavid]

^I didn't create coordinates for Eurogenes K13. I don't know who is the author of these.

ok my mistake ....
maybe lukasz ......

 

[Jovialis]

I think that is probably right.