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    Could there be any R* basal haplogroup people be still around today?

    Could there be any ancients among us.
    Or by now each r haplogroup has evolved into either r1a or R1b clades.
    Are there any basal R people left.

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    Family Tree DNA have 58 basal R (R-M207) in their database, they are mostly from Middle East, but some are from South Asia, Europe and Africa. Plus one from Indonesia.

    They also have 21 basal R1 (R-M173) and 12 basal R2 (R-479).

    Sure, all of them have new mutations over the basal ones, but their lines branched out from the R tree before R1a and R1b did.

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/R

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    Wow that's amazing!
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi-même View Post
    Family Tree DNA have 58 basal R (R-M207) in their database, they are mostly from Middle East, but some are from South Asia, Europe and Africa. Plus one from Indonesia.

    They also have 21 basal R1 (R-M173) and 12 basal R2 (R-479).

    Sure, all of them have new mutations over the basal ones, but their lines branched out from the R tree before R1a and R1b did.

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/R
    Not really. Those are R, not R*. Same for all other macro-haplogroups, in the sense you'll find participants not tested downstream in all of them: J, E, G, T etc.

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