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  1. #101
    Regular Member torzio's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    my results

    Distance to: TorzioK7
    2.67856305 Protovillanovan_IA
    6.25505795 Etruscan_IA
    9.16610847 Latini_IA
    10.39266568 Villanovan_IA
    12.50711398 Latin_Prenestini_Tribe_IA
    13.52015121 Beaker_N_Italy_BA
    18.06672355 Alberstedt_LN
    18.99433810 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean_Avrg
    19.05584100 France_BA
    20.07877557 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean_Avrg
    21.27289159 Beaker_Germany_LN
    22.31752450 C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean(R437)
    23.40830222 C6_Imperial_Roman_Mediterranean_Avrg
    23.65228742 Esperstedt_MN
    24.27961262 Baalberge_MN
    24.56632095 Mycenaean
    25.49177841 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN
    25.86467089 LBKT_EN
    26.69490594 Unetice_EBA
    27.11762238 Spain_MN
    27.50234172 Halberstadt_LBA
    28.66580877 C_Italian_Neolithic
    28.95750542 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean_Avrg
    30.10834301 Corded_Ware_LN
    30.55737663 LBK_EN


    75.2 Protovillanovan_IA
    20.2 Etruscan_IA
    4.6 Karsdorf_LN
    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4p
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1-Y33791
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

  2. #102
    Regular Member Carlos's Avatar
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    Target: Carlos
    Distance: 0.4419% / 0.44194991
    27.0 Baalberge_MN
    12.0 C_Italian_Mesolithic
    10.8 France_BA
    9.6 Halberstadt_LBA
    8.6 Beaker_Germany_LN
    6.4 Beaker_N_Italy_BA
    6.2 Minoan_Lasithi
    5.6 C_Italian_Neolithic
    4.4 Anatolia_ChL
    4.4 Motala_HG
    3.0 Armenian_LBA
    1.4 Beaker_Sicily_BA
    0.6 Mycenaean


    Target: Carlos
    Distance: 1.4613% / 1.46131628 | ADC: 0.25x
    61.4 Beaker_N_Italy_BA
    28.4 Alberstedt_LN
    10.2 France_BA


    Distance to: Carlos
    8.87887506 Beaker_N_Italy_BA
    11.22677942 France_BA
    15.07656128 Alberstedt_LN
    17.85510431 Beaker_Germany_LN
    18.21919592 Esperstedt_MN
    19.20196488 Baalberge_MN
    23.88530555 Spain_MN
    23.88598707 Unetice_EBA
    24.28467830 Halberstadt_LBA
    24.84752369 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN

    Target: Carlos
    Distance: 1.7489% / 1.74892320
    65.0 Latin_Prenestini_Tribe_IA
    20.0 Villanovan_IA
    15.0 Etruscan_IA


    Target: Carlos
    Distance: 1.8223% / 1.82228832 | ADC: 0.25x
    53.4 Latini_IA
    46.6 Latin_Prenestini_Tribe_IA

    Distance to: Carlos
    3.45551893 Latini_IA
    3.79724900 Latin_Prenestini_Tribe_IA
    6.50746879 Etruscan_IA
    7.07220616 Villanovan_IA
    12.21609185 Protovillanovan_IA
    27.56160245 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean_Avrg
    28.96871140 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean_Avrg
    30.87690885 C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean(R437)
    32.53154511 C6_Imperial_Roman_Mediterranean_Avrg
    37.66025385 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean_Avrg
    43.38610031 C5_Iron_Age_Eastern_Mediterranean(R850)
    44.53868957 C5_Imperial_Roman_Eastern_Mediterranean_Avrg

    Ok I get an idea like that more or less of what happens, I already have the spectral spectrum more or less or less than more, it is already something

  3. #103
    Advisor Jovialis's Avatar
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    1 members found this post helpful.
    Here are coordinates I put together with Dodecad Global 13 for the Vahaduo 3D PCA

    You have to paste the coordinates here in the source tab: https://vahaduo.github.io/custompca/



    Code:
    C1:Mesolithic:R11:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0,0,0,0,18.05,2.1,0,0,79.85,0,0
    C1:Mesolithic:R15:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0.89,0.28,0,0,15.96,0.89,0,0,81.67,0,0.3
    C1:Mesolithic:R7:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0.92,0.06,0,0.33,16.19,0.87,0,0,81.62,0,0
    C2:Chalcolithic:R1014:(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio,0,0,0.32,0,13.09,0.52,65.37,0.32,0,0,20.39,0,0
    C2:Chalcolithic:R4:Grotta_Continenza,0.01,0,0.8,0,14.28,0.22,63.65,0,0,2.55,18.49,0,0
    C2:Chalcolithic:R5:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0.4,0.46,13.62,0,66.03,0,0,1.17,18.31,0,0
    C2:Neolithic:R10:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0.05,0.17,20.25,0.09,64.35,0,0,8.41,6.67,0,0
    C2:Neolithic:R16:Ripabianca_di_Monterado,0,0,0.72,0.04,14.85,0.23,62.83,0,0,7.8,13.53,0,0
    C2:Neolithic:R17:Ripabianca_di_Monterado,0,0,0.35,0,19.27,0,57.42,0.16,0.47,6.46,15.87,0,0
    C2:Neolithic:R18:Ripabianca_di_Monterado,0,0,0.23,0,15.91,0,63.13,0,0,12.52,8.16,0,0.04
    C2:Neolithic:R19:Ripabianca_di_Monterado,0,0,0.58,0,15.92,0,62.05,0.69,0,8.77,11.99,0,0
    C2:Neolithic:R2:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0.8,0,18.18,0,64.84,0,0,7.68,8.46,0,0.04
    C2:Neolithic:R3:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0.79,0.32,17.13,0,64.96,0.12,0.15,9.54,6.86,0,0.15
    C2:Neolithic:R6:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0,0.13,10.59,1.75,61.62,0,0,0,25.91,0,0
    C2:Neolithic:R8:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0.74,0,17.62,0.36,61.97,0,0,9.61,9.69,0,0
    C2:Neolithic:R9:Grotta_Continenza,0,0,0,0,2.62,0,92.76,0,0,4.62,0,0,0
    C3:Imperial_North_African:R132:Marcellino_&_Pietro,0.15,0,4.52,0,25.78,2.05,38.7,0,0,13.01,8.6,0,7.19
    C3:Imperial_North_African:R80:Viale_Rossini_Necropolis,0,0,2.8,0,24.76,0.42,39.18,0,0.51,16.68,11.93,0,3.72
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R126:Casale_del_Dolce,0,0.24,1.04,0.04,24.89,0.99,36.43,0.63,0,32.76,2.98,0,0
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R1547:Monterotondo,0,0,0.59,0,29.83,0.54,32.03,0.25,0,31.96,1.57,0.6,2.62
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R1550:Monterotondo,0,0.66,0.69,0,29.32,0.89,30.57,0,0.16,33.2,2.03,0.46,2.03
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R1551:Monterotondo,0,0.11,0.86,0,21.83,0.17,29.15,0.38,0.12,44.25,3.14,0,0
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R38:Isola_Sacra_Necropolis,0.05,0.15,0.66,0,23.92,0,34.87,0,0.46,37.18,2.53,0,0.19
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R41:Isola_Sacra_Necropolis,0,0.47,0.89,0,22.53,1.38,37.92,1.01,0,27.26,7.22,0,1.34
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R42:Isola_Sacra_Necropolis,0,0.38,1.24,0,30.96,1.15,31.28,0.06,0,32.97,0,0,1.97
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R67:ANAS,0,0,1.14,0.72,23.92,0.42,26.84,0.11,0.26,40.43,2.59,2.44,1.13
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R68:ANAS,0,0,0.77,0.29,25.57,0,28.84,0,0,41.12,1.23,1.24,0.93
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R70:ANAS,0,0.52,0.16,0,26.5,0,34.8,0,0.17,31.99,3.67,0,2.18
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R73:ANAS,0,0,2.55,0.03,24.44,0,36.26,0,0,26.79,8.41,1.5,0.02
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R75:Viale_Rossini_Necropolis,0,0,1.12,0,23.9,0.31,37.67,0,0,30.2,5.54,0.6,0.67
    C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R76:Viale_Rossini_Necropolis,0,0,0.68,0,24.93,0.82,34.13,0.21,0.39,33.54,5.29,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R114:Via_Paisiello_Necropolis,0,0.64,0.78,0.45,19.35,0,35.43,0,0,27.94,15.4,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R115:Via_Paisiello_Necropolis,0.91,0,0.58,0,21.38,0,36.37,0.28,0,28.58,11.91,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R123:Casale_del_Dolce,0,0,0.35,0.09,19.12,0.83,37.2,1,0,29.98,11.44,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R128:Casale_del_Dolce,0,0.33,0.33,0.12,20.07,0,35.84,0.5,0,32.87,9.68,0.26,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R130:Marcellino_&_Pietro,0,0.29,1.15,0.36,22.36,0,38.02,0.22,0,32.01,5.21,0.38,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R133:Marcellino_&_Pietro,0.77,0,0.97,0,19.87,0.6,38.3,0.24,0,27.59,11.39,0.21,0.06
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R134:Marcellino_&_Pietro,0,0.62,1.13,0.06,21.07,0.28,37.6,0.06,0.72,28.27,9.71,0,0.48
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1543:Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese,0,1.03,0.92,0.61,22.37,0.26,35.18,0,0,28.28,10.65,0.67,0.02
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1545:Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese,0,0,0.95,0,20.13,0,36.54,1,0,29.71,11.68,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1548:Monterotondo,0,0,0.6,0,18.94,0,33.55,0,0,29.96,16.03,0.91,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R39:Isola_Sacra_Necropolis,0.34,0.76,0.8,0,19.64,0.29,38.23,0,0.74,28.62,9.94,0,0.65
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R40:Isola_Sacra_Necropolis,0.78,0,0.96,0.33,20.29,0.07,39.53,0,0,29.52,8.53,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R43:Isola_Sacra_Necropolis,0,0,0.56,0,18.76,0,41.54,0.66,0,32.93,5.55,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R44:Isola_Sacra_Necropolis,0,0,0.44,0.23,18.75,0,44.32,0,0,28.35,7.9,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R45:Isola_Sacra_Necropolis,0,0,1.57,0,23.34,0,40.31,1.02,0,20.72,11.48,0.31,1.25
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50:Centocelle_Necropolis,0,0,0.96,0.17,20.26,0,34.3,0.68,0.17,27.19,15.42,0.85,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R66:ANAS,0,0,0.19,0,22.02,0.7,36.59,1.2,0,28.72,10.58,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R69:ANAS,0,1.01,0.6,0,14.63,0,40.54,0.61,0.36,29.37,12.87,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R71:ANAS,0,0,0.69,0.09,19.92,0,39.5,1.1,0,36.63,2.05,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R72:ANAS,0.42,0,0.6,0,20.41,0,38.52,0.58,0.78,32.47,6.22,0,0
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R78:Viale_Rossini_Necropolis,0,0,0.32,0,18.52,0.41,39.71,0,0.3,35.51,4.95,0,0.29
    C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R81:Viale_Rossini_Necropolis,0,0,0.96,0,22.84,0.27,37.17,0,0.35,27.29,10.23,0.89,0
    C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122:S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia,0,0,0.57,0.48,14.83,0.14,40.55,0.24,0.62,23.31,17.8,0,1.44
    C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30:Mausole_di_Augusto,0,0,0.74,0.27,17.73,1.82,38.59,0.57,0,27.08,12.1,0,1.1
    C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R32:Mausole_di_Augusto,0,0.28,1.33,0,14.79,0.39,40.92,0.07,0.34,23.28,17.82,0,0.77
    C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R34:Mausole_di_Augusto,0.49,0,1.02,0.09,19.67,0.27,37.95,0.17,0,28.39,10.51,0.09,1.34
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R111:Via_Paisiello_Necropolis,0,0,0.61,0,13.12,0.22,41.96,0,0,18.42,25.67,0,0
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113:Via_Paisiello_Necropolis,0,0,0.7,0,14.23,0,43.26,0,0.72,22.7,18.33,0.07,0
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R125:Casale_del_Dolce,0,0.15,0.53,0.3,16.76,0,39.93,0,0,27.98,14.34,0,0
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131:Via_Paisiello_Necropolis,0,0,1.09,0,16.51,0.84,39.33,0,0,22.19,19.12,0.91,0
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R136:Marcellino_&_Pietro,0,0.2,0.59,0,18.43,0.33,36.19,0.09,0.38,25.85,16.92,0.41,0.58
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R137:Marcellino_&_Pietro,0,0.1,0.42,0.68,17.76,0,38.75,0.06,0.36,27.83,14.03,0,0
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R1544:Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese,0.82,0,0.4,0,16.67,0,37.33,1.01,0,26.96,16.81,0,0
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549:Monterotondo,0,0,0.38,0.4,15.39,0.23,34.56,1.37,0.5,21.19,25.03,0,0.95
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R436:Palestrina,0,0,0.77,0.05,17.39,0.8,36.25,0,0.49,26.08,17.87,0.3,0
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R47:Centocelle_Necropolis,0.28,0,0.72,0,14.49,0,40.47,0.36,1.27,24.75,16.6,0,1.06
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49:Centocelle_Necropolis,0,0,0.81,0.18,14.9,0.03,39.53,0.72,0,24.59,18.51,0,0.72
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R51:Centocelle_Necropolis,0,0,0.34,0,18.28,0.77,38.4,1.56,0,27.75,12.9,0,0
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835:Civitanova_Marche,0,0.73,0,0,15.13,0.84,37.51,0.61,0.8,22.38,21.4,0,0.6
    C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836:Civitanova_Marche,0,0.42,0,0.3,14.11,0,39.04,0,0.4,25.48,20.24,0,0
    C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107:Crypta_Balbi,0,0.45,0.42,0,17.59,0,39.09,1.16,0.13,18.8,22.14,0.22,0
    C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117:S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia,0,0.54,0.44,0.3,15.92,0,39.14,0,0.82,25.2,16.97,0.29,0.37
    C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118:S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia,0.77,0,1,0,14.96,0,39.64,0.5,0,21.14,21.69,0,0.32
    C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120:S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia,0,0,1.19,0,17.69,0,39.4,0,0.52,15.97,24.92,0,0.31
    C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121:S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia,0,0,0,0.41,16.51,0,37.2,0,0.23,20.56,23.09,1.16,0.85
    C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35:Celio,0,0,0.83,0,18.49,0,38.14,1.43,0,22.72,17.46,0.03,0.89
    C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36:Celio,0,0,0.96,0.41,12.89,0,39.41,0.65,0.3,19.71,25.66,0,0
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283:Cancelleria,0,0,0.63,0,14.08,0,40.17,0.44,0.61,18.49,24.88,0.07,0.62
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285:Cancelleria,0,0.38,0.87,0.16,13.88,0.39,41.59,0,0,16.44,25.1,1.19,0
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287:Cancelleria,0,0,1.17,0.02,13.51,0.83,42.02,0,0,17.64,24.46,0.07,0.28
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290:Villa_Magna,0.22,0,1.42,0,16.48,0,38.48,0.17,0,20.86,22.13,0.23,0
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52:Villa_Magna,0,0.91,1.24,0.12,16.19,0.47,39.09,0,0.2,22.37,19.42,0,0
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R53:Villa_Magna,0,0.8,0.56,0,17.58,0.5,37.23,0.55,0,25.63,16.27,0,0.88
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R54:Villa_Magna,0,0,0.15,0,17.43,0.82,35.01,0.39,0.76,23.63,20.64,0,1.16
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56:Villa_Magna,0,0,0.09,0,16.51,0,39.8,0,1.87,22.81,17.25,0,1.67
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R57:Villa_Magna,0,0,0.85,0,15.66,0.66,37.55,0.74,0,24.18,20.22,0.14,0
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R58:Villa_Magna,0,0.22,0.81,0,18.28,0.45,36.38,0,0,23.24,19.95,0,0.68
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R59:Villa_Magna,0.03,0,1.66,0,16.4,1.28,38.29,0.17,0,21.7,20.47,0,0
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R60:Villa_Magna,1.29,0,0.46,0.27,15.53,0,35.58,0,0,21.39,24.22,0,1.28
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R64:Villa_Magna,0.55,0.32,0.65,0.09,16.01,0,36.15,0.75,1.11,25.08,18.76,0,0.52
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R65:Villa_Magna,0,0.58,0.66,0,16.96,0.32,37.85,0.3,0,25.94,17.39,0,0
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969:Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti,0.02,0.53,0.91,0,14.14,0,38.44,0.2,0,20.64,23.54,0.85,0.72
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R970:Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti,0,0.86,1.39,0.17,13.47,0,37.8,0,0.5,22.1,23.72,0,0
    C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973:Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti,0.33,0.37,1.54,0.11,14.12,0,39.17,0.04,0,25.63,18.66,0,0.04
    C7:Imperial_European:R116:Via_Paisiello_Necropolis,0.14,0,0.57,0,5.22,0.53,41.2,0,0.06,6.1,45.85,0.33,0
    C7:Imperial_European:R37:Isola_Sacra_Necropolis,0.52,0.19,0.67,0.07,5.77,0,46.35,0.17,0.46,2.04,43.76,0,0
    C7:Late_Antiquity_European:R105:Crypta_Balbi,0,1.27,0.22,0,9.33,0,39.15,0.38,0,12.19,36.16,0.09,1.2
    C7:Late_Antiquity_European:R106:Crypta_Balbi,0,0.58,0.87,0,5.83,0,31.08,1.09,0,12.5,46.78,1.27,0
    C7:Late_Antiquity_European:R108:Crypta_Balbi,0,0.41,0.52,0.18,8.6,0.66,35.53,0.05,0.75,9.67,43.63,0,0
    C7:Late_Antiquity_European:R109:Crypta_Balbi,0.62,0,0.62,0.09,9.14,0,41.66,0.95,0,9.33,37.14,0,0.45
    C7:Late_Antiquity_European:R110:Crypta_Balbi,0.75,0,0.67,0,8.22,0.2,43.36,0.1,0.77,9.39,36.55,0,0
    C7:Late_Antiquity_European:R31:Mausole_di_Augusto,0.44,0.52,0.59,0,3.14,0,32.97,0.31,0.13,5.89,55.99,0,0
    C7:Late_Antiquity_European:R33:Mausole_di_Augusto,0,0,0.24,0.18,10.61,0.77,39.8,0.16,0.5,13.06,34.45,0,0.23
    C7:Medieval_European:R1219:Cancelleria,0.28,0.37,0.13,0.1,4.32,0,33.06,0.05,1.01,9.45,49.33,0.66,1.24
    C7:Medieval_European:R1220:Cancelleria,0,2.04,1.35,0,7.22,0,35.28,0,0,10.82,42.53,0.77,0
    C7:Medieval_European:R1221:Cancelleria,0,0,0.5,0.11,7.65,1.16,37.32,1.12,0,12.18,39.56,0.42,0
    C7:Medieval_European:R1224:Cancelleria,0,0.61,0.15,0.13,4.94,0,38.49,0,0,11.71,42.07,1.2,0.68
    C7:Medieval_European:R1286:Cancelleria,1.01,0.05,0.8,0,3.29,0.46,30.74,0.25,0,8.96,54.44,0,0
    C7:Medieval_European:R1288:Cancelleria,0.01,0,0.48,0,4.5,1.62,33.35,0,0.7,7.02,51.21,0,1.12
    C7:Medieval_European:R1289:Cancelleria,0,1.01,0.99,0.46,5.96,0,45.29,0,0,6.35,38.37,1.58,0
    C7:Medieval_European:R55:Villa_Magna,0,0,0.47,0,9.91,0.62,38.78,0,0,14.65,35.37,0.2,0
    C7:Medieval_European:R61:Villa_Magna,0.63,0.33,0.94,0,9.06,0,39.73,0,0.93,8.61,39.14,0.63,0
    C7:Medieval_European:R62:Villa_Magna,0,0,0.34,0,4.85,0,34.01,1.03,1.36,8.59,48.76,0.93,0.13
    C7:Medieval_European:R63:Villa_Magna,0,0.12,0.52,0.81,7.77,0.61,45.6,0.91,0.49,5.06,37.79,0.21,0.13
    Etruscan:R473:Civitavecchia,0.27,0,1.22,0,8.92,0.23,47.67,0,0,8.43,33.26,0,0
    Etruscan:R474:Civitavecchia,0,1.02,0.91,0,7.75,0.16,41.23,0,0,12.24,36.2,0,0.48
    Latini:R1016:Castel_di_Decima,0.31,0.2,0.54,0,6.01,0,50.12,0,1.91,10.7,29.93,0.28,0
    Latini:R1021:Boville_Ernica,0,0,0.66,0,5.14,0.04,48.39,0,0,10.27,35.5,0,0
    Latini:R851:(Latini)_Ardea,0,0,0.95,0,4.84,0,49.28,0,0,8.62,36.31,0,0
    Prenestini:R435:Palestrina_Colombella,0,0.15,0.98,0.12,5.79,0,44.71,0,0.37,6.5,40.75,0.64,0
    Protovillanovan:R1:Martinsicuro,1.39,0.69,0.9,0,9.4,0,39.29,0,0.04,15.5,32.79,0,0
    R104:R104:Crypta_Balbi,0,0,0.1,0.19,12.53,0.37,62.56,0.07,0,3.03,20.31,0,0.83
    R437:R437:(Prenestini_Tribe_o)_Palestrina_Selicata,0,0.41,1.06,0,16.01,0.44,42.49,0.09,0,22.52,17,0,0
    R475:R475:Etruscan_o,0,0,2,0,18.81,0,46.49,0.06,0.59,7.14,21.32,0.24,3.36
    R850:R850:(Latini)_Ardea_o,0,0,0.69,0.33,21.44,0.46,35.17,0,0.5,27.91,13.33,0,0.17
    Villanovan:R1015:Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia,0,0.35,0.46,0,9.63,0,49.39,0,0,7.61,32.56,0,0

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    Excellent work, Jovialis.

    It makes very clear what people so often overlook. A 2D PCA only captures part of the story.

    I guess I haven't been following this as much as I should have been. Where did you get your Global 13 Dodecad coordinates for projection?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Excellent work, Jovialis.

    It makes very clear what people so often overlook. A 2D PCA only captures part of the story.

    I guess I haven't been following this as much as I should have been. Where did you get your Global 13 Dodecad coordinates for projection?
    Admixture Studio has Dodecad Global 13 in their suite of calculators. It is not on Vahaduo calculators however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Admixture Studio has Dodecad Global 13 in their suite of calculators. It is not on Vahaduo calculators however.
    Great job again Jovialis. First I have heard of a Dodecad 13. Is it possible to plot modern Italian samples using Dodecad 13 with the ancient Romans?

    Maybe you and Angela can help me out, I am not having any updates on point totals since back in October. Have you had others having issues with this?

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    What about the Gedmatch kits of these samples? Have they become available? I'm really interested in seeing their results.

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    Etruscan couple:

    one to one - R474 vs R473


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    GedM... #

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    # cq9892481 - r113
    # ya4130093 - r836
    # sq3766558 - r120
    # qw3994769 - r969
    # hm8000490 - r1543

    # BR2611491 - R436
    # TX7344781 - R1283
    # QM2020145 - R107
    # XX6128483 - R57
    # EA9429274 - R136
    Last edited by Salento; 11-04-21 at 23:01. Reason: ... more samples!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post


    GedM... #
    Thanks salento
    https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-Y62418/

    https://yfull.com/mtree/H3ap/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    Thanks salento
    ... you’re welcome :)

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    Praeneste:

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    R437 (Latin) vs R436 (Roman)



    25 3 3 ⬜ ☑️

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    thanks salento


    # ea9429274 - r136

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    @Salento,

    This is how you set up your parameters, yes?

    Minimum segment threshold size to be included in total = 25 SNPs
    Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM
    Mismatch-bunching Limit = 3 SNPs

    I ask because my results with R1 Protovillanovan seem a little strange to me.


    Largest segment = 4.5 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 96.6cM (2.693 Pct)

    27 shared segments found for this comparison.

    842340 SNPs used for this comparison.

    54.441 Pct SNPs are full identical

    Comparison took 0.421.
    CPU time used: 0.151.

    I used Build 37, clicked full resolution, and left the last two boxes unchecked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    @Salento,

    This is how you set up your parameters, yes?

    Minimum segment threshold size to be included in total = 25 SNPs
    Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM
    Mismatch-bunching Limit = 3 SNPs

    I ask because my results with R1 Protovillanovan seem a little strange to me.


    Largest segment = 4.5 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 96.6cM (2.693 Pct)

    27 shared segments found for this comparison.

    842340 SNPs used for this comparison.

    54.441 Pct SNPs are full identical

    Comparison took 0.421.
    CPU time used: 0.151.

    I used Build 37, clicked full resolution, and left the last two boxes unchecked.
    I start from the minimum so try 25 and 3 first.

    Only if you don’t get anything then you can add the other 3.
    If you still don’t get anything, try adding a check in the last square box only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I start from the minimum so try 25 and 3 first.

    Only if you don’t get anything then you can add the other 3.
    If you still don’t get anything, try adding a check in the last square box only.
    27 shared segments just seems like a really high number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    27 shared segments just seems like a really high number.
    ... run Default, ... if nothing:

    ... start with 3 and run it, (Stop if you get something)

    ... if nothing then add also the 25 on top and run it. (Stop if you get ...)

    ... if nothing add another 3 in the last box and run it, (Stop if you get ...)

    ... if nothing add the check mark in the last square and run it.

    Good Luck :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post


    GedM... #
    Salento: Thanks for those GEDMATCH kit #'s for those Ancient Roman samples from Antonio et al 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Salento: Thanks for those GEDMATCH kit #'s for those Ancient Roman samples from Antonio et al 2019.
    You’re welcome @PT :)


    # AG4512653 - R1 Proto-Villanovan
    # XH4246097 - R435 Latin
    # SA5994979 - R437 Latin
    # KK1577067 - R473 Etruscan
    # AF1464717 - R474 Etruscan
    # EK9024010 - R475 ET....
    # SN3426822 - R850 Latin
    # GG2504860 - R851 Latin
    # ZV2514383 - R1015 Villanovan
    # YB8192286 - R1016 Latin
    # AP5582604 - R1021 Latin


    # CQ9892481 - R133
    # YA4130093 - R836
    # SQ3766558 - R120
    # QW3994769 - R969
    # HM8000490 - R1543
    # BR2611491 - R436
    # TX7344781 - R1283
    # QM2020145 - R107
    # XX6128483 - R57
    # EA9429274 - R136

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... run Default, ... if nothing:

    ... start with 3 and run it, (Stop if you get something)

    ... if nothing then add also the 25 on top and run it. (Stop if you get ...)

    ... if nothing add another 3 in the last box and run it, (Stop if you get ...)

    ... if nothing add the check mark in the last square and run it.

    Good Luck :)
    Thanks. I'm just getting a lot more matches than I expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    # cq9892481 - r113
    # ya4130093 - r836
    # sq3766558 - r120
    # qw3994769 - r969
    # hm8000490 - r1543

    # BR2611491 - R436
    # TX7344781 - R1283
    # QM2020145 - R107
    # XX6128483 - R57
    # EA9429274 - R136
    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post


    GedM... #
    Nice Salento. Thank you

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    # RZ6422098 - R30
    # GH3133915 - R31
    # PN8644755 - R32
    # SL3558085 - R33
    # TS7729701 - R34

    # JH5119638 - R35
    # MX4921955 - R36

    # QF4613000 - R37
    # CB3463720 - R38
    # JJ4239610 - R39
    # BA1509130 - R40
    # MH2097544 - R41
    # DV4472114 - R42
    # EY2073116 - R43
    # AB8844582 - R44
    # UH7321713 - R45


    # EW7539811 - R50

    # SW2722281 - R52
    # ZE9575529 - R53
    # HE4026336 - R54
    # XU5833350 - R55
    # ME1228431 - R56
    # XX6128483 - R57
    # MF1633226 - R58
    # WK2909174 - R59
    # BQ9793056 - R60
    # TB7112002 - R61
    # KU2074564 - R62
    # YQ9024386 - R63
    # QT6475496 - R64
    # FE3036724 - R65

    # NH5795384 - R66
    # XT8836177 - R67
    # EU2500773 - R68
    # NV8254491 - R69
    # ZK5609202 - R70
    # PG4054822 - R71
    # PX3508614 - R72
    # MV4444006 - R73

    # CE7473504 - R104
    # HT5946154 - R105
    # RJ2728415 - R106
    # QM2020145 - R107
    # AD7479254 - R108
    # KT5676607 - R109
    # YJ3392700 - R110

    # UH8760931 - R111
    # CQ9892481 - R113
    # PQ3259249 - R114
    # FK8902246 - R115
    # GS7563370 - R116
    # GK8124104 - R131

    # XN2449505 - R117
    # CN8156081 - R118
    # SQ3766558 - R120
    # LP8204703 - R121
    # TA5608616 - R122

    # WP3721834 - R123
    # HL3585758 - R125
    # YV6021708 - R126
    # YB7010038 - R128

    # EA9429274 - R136

    # BR2611491 - R436


    # AH5246559 - R835
    # YA4130093 - R836


    # QW3994769 - R969
    # AB1476980 - R970
    # WG6521309 - R973

    # TX7344781 - R1283
    # AY2747575 - R1290

    # HM8000490 - R1543
    # FN6872134 - R1544
    # LR2648653 - R1545

    # ZP8757722 - R1547
    # QA7890512 - R1548
    # UY8596967 - R1549
    # ZL7727408 - R1550

    Iron-Age:

    # AG4512653 - R1 Proto-Villanovan
    # XH4246097 - R435 Latin
    # SA5994979 - R437 Latin
    # KK1577067 - R473 Etruscan
    # AF1464717 - R474 Etruscan
    # EK9024010 - R475 ET....
    # SN3426822 - R850 Latin
    # GG2504860 - R851 Latin
    # ZV2514383 - R1015 Villanovan
    # YB8192286 - R1016 Latin
    # AP5582604 - R1021 Latin

    Chalcolithic

    # DR2651899 - R5

    Neolithic

    # LD4248402 - R16
    # FP3887119 - R17
    # MK4499265 - R18
    # UW4204440 - R19
    Last edited by Salento; 23-04-21 at 02:22.

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    one to one:

    S vs R30 & R32 (Mausoleo di Augusto)

    ... vs R30


    ... vs R32

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