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    [QUOTE=Angela;600041Plus, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MAJOR POINT. What does the EU mean? If it doesn't mean that member states facing the first wave of a common emergency can get help from other member states, at least in terms of PPE, ventilators etc., if it's each country for itself, then screw the EU. Get out just like Britain did. It was the best thing Britain's done in a long time. All they want you for is to serve as markets.[/QUOTE]

    I'm pro solidarity in the EU, for humanitarian reasons and also for the self intrest of the EU countries (one big market, is for exporteurs like the Dutch a big pro).

    Nevertheless how fare does this solidarity reach? Legitimate question.

    The Dutch (even many of the social democrats, yes Angela you read it well) government are strict followers of the lessons of the Chicago school of economics, reduce the public debt.....cut cut cut reduce reduce reduce this mantra has been consequent over times.....

    The Italians were let's say it mildly not so consequent in this respect. You would say it in the NY way: they made it a mess ;)

    And now is the Dutch government to blame to have taken Friedman c.s. too serious?

    Let's be clear I'm not total into that 'calvinistic Scroodge' c.q. Friedman like politics.....but 'right wingers' have IMO no right to blame this kind of neo-liberal policy! ;)

    Besides that everyone knows that a Italian EU exit is most of all tricky for the Italians.....(and honesty I would miss them in all aspects, but that's a personal opinion).
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    @Northener

    Plz not Now,
    After the end or stabilization of CoronaWar we will have plenty of time.


    and all over the world there are 2 capitalistic model, by what I can see you call them right wings

    The one I call anarchocapitalism, great example of such is G Sorros, from Neo-liberians to GlobaloTraders amd money transfer, Friedman school
    The one I call middle class capitalism, typical of EU great glory days, Fiscal policy Central bank, Keynes model,

    The communistic theories of Marx have already been rejected,
    Yet it is a good study for economists and law school,

    The socialists had no model, only the dream and the social (name me public) help
    They have turn to be 2 groups in Europe
    The ones that make their flag after Toma Piketty's work
    the ones who accept a kind of 'social war' against capitalism, or monetarians, police and state, etc.
    the hardest of the last are the ones who comes in Greece and Italy to 'save illegal immigrants'


    Lately comes a new party,
    The Capitalo-Socialisto-Globalists,
    Like our ex prime minister,
    They support the idea of a Global Goverment,
    ΟΘΕΝ ΑΙΔΩΣ OY EINAI
    ΑΤΗ ΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙΝ ΑΥΤΟΙΣ
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    Hybris (abuse, opprombium) is born
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    @Northener

    Plz not Now,
    After the end or stabilization of CoronaWar we will have plenty of time.
    It's the actual discussion.
    You and others did also a contribution in this respect.
    And now I must keep my mound shut because of the crisis.....???
    I keep it respectful for all members. And I'm not communicating in caps lock style or whatsoever. No ad hominem. So I keep it clear within our rules.
    So I don't see a reason why I should not made a contribution.....

    Or is this because you or others disagree with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    and offcourse,
    how expected,
    the dictator now will kill all its citizens,
    and will say they were Gullenists
    and Greece spreads coronavirus to Turkey

    https://www.thestar.com.my/news/worl...s-erdogan-says
    This is quite political too and you even use words as dictator etc. I could say not now yetos.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    This is quite political too and you even use words as dictator etc. I could say not now yetos.....
    yup, you are right, I should not call him such.
    but .. .. isn't ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    It's the actual discussion.
    You and others did also a contribution in this respect.
    And now I must keep my mound shut because of the crisis.....???
    I keep it respectful for all members. And I'm not communicating in caps lock style or whatsoever. No ad hominem. So I keep it clear within our rules.
    So I don't see a reason why I should not made a contribution.....

    Or is this because you or others disagree with me?
    The reporting is this,
    11+1 ask for Corona bond, for their own reasons,
    4 deny, for their own reasons
    EU authorities think different, towards a 'Marshal plan',

    That is the beauty of EU,

    Discussion, and Democracy, pluralism of ideas and solutions, and respect to the Veto even of one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    The reporting is this,
    11+1 ask for Corona bond,
    4 deny,
    EU authorities think different, towards a 'Marshal plan',

    That is the beauty of EU,
    Discussion, and Democracy, pluralism of ideas and solutions, and respect to the Veto even of one.
    I know the Dutch government they are going to move.....'calvinistic arrogance' is in our genes, but cooperation, compromis, negotiation as well...mark my words.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    I know the Dutch government they are going to move.....'calvinistic arrogance' is in our genes, but cooperation, compromis, negotiation as well...mark my words.....
    We both know that hundrends or thousands EUpoliticians think and work now,
    some with Negative eye, some with Positive eye.
    and somewhere and somehow a solution will be found,

    participating and unite to EU is still a choice,

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    Half-year?

    This is going to be really difficult to do.


    Epidemiologist at the Clinic (Hospital in Barcelona): "If you want to win again, we will accept a new culture of epidemiology"

    Anna Llupià argues that "stricter confinement is not needed" but "more selective", in reference to people with symptoms still down the street



    The coronavirus pandemic will not be able to be buried in a month or a half. At least this is the certainty that Anna Llupià conveys when contemplating the future approach to the infection. She is an epidemiologist at Hospital Clínic and has been closely monitoring Covid-19's behavior in recent months. Now, as we are about to reach two weeks of official confinement by the state of alarm, Llupià points to the crucial step that in the near future will have to be taken "to get out of it." "We will have to start accepting a new culture of epidemic or self-isolation as a routine," he warns.


    That will be the price of returning to a kind of everyday life, says Llupià. "If we want to go out and relate to a certain amount of normality, we should apply this culture. And that means that anyone who has a little neck pain, can detect softer stools or suffocates, he must consider that. it is a positive case to prevent and isolate yourself, "says the Preventive Medicine and Public Health specialist.


    That is, the minimal detection of symptoms linked to SARS-CoV-2 should be an immediate reason for confinement to the affected person, but not exclusively. "His contacts, with whom he had been in connection with the previous days for less than two meters and for more than 15 minutes, must also be isolated for two weeks," he adds.

    This proposal also goes in line with what it proposes when assessing the current confinement situation, regulated by Royal Decree. "Confinement alone doesn't work. In fact, you don't have to be stricter, or as much as you are now, but more selective. We could organize ourselves. But the obvious thing is that what's happening now can't happen. that you should not be able to go super, "says the specialist at the Clinic. According to the defense, knowledge about coronavirus has not changed in recent weeks. "At the medical level, we knew everything. We did contact studies and ICU forecasts." However, he states that "it has been very fast." "Surely, on a social level, the control measures of the spread of the virus have overtaken us. And now we need to develop new tools," he concludes.

    It also hints at the thinking that has been installed in many people, saying that coronavirus does not affect young people without previous pathologies. "It's a virus that attacks the entire population. It's true that if you are young and you have the means, you will usually leave, but that doesn't mean there is no risk," he says.


    Precautions in the supermarket
    On the security measures that can be taken during confinement, Anna Llupià is committed to raising awareness of the movements that are made when leaving, for example, when making a purchase. "Gloves are hands that you cannot wash as well as you would. So if you touch an item with those gloves and then you scratch your face or mucous membranes, we have broken it already," he says.


    Managing what to do with the food packaging we buy is also not easy. The epidemiologist in woman gives some advice. One of the proposals for everything we do not have to eat the same day and that are medium term forecasts is to quarantine it. "You keep it and do not touch it for a few days. The virus lasts for a few days," he says. If they are foods that we want to consume immediately, there are other options, such as being very careful when spilling the contents of the container on the plate or the cooking utensil where we pour it. to do with gloves. "You have to consider the surface of that can to be dirty," he warns. The alternative is to disinfect the package. "But you have to do this with high concentration bleach and it's more complicated."

    "We are giving everything"
    The culture of isolation and social estrangement was one of the two important legs in managing an epidemic, says Anna Llupià, because it has to do with controlling the spread of the virus. The other crucial aspect is the current health response to the Covid-19 crisis. Barcelona hospitals are looking for new useful spaces, and administrations are starting to enable out-of-medical spaces - such as hotels or sports centers - to treat infected people or to welcome workers. "We will take care of the sick with all available means, but it must be clear that they will not be enough. Basically, because there will be attendances in spaces that have nothing to do with regular care. Anyway, we are giving everything, "he claims.


    He also acknowledges the lack of material and the endless efforts being made by the centers to try to have as much resources as possible. However, he warns that there will be situations that are still unknown as to how they will end. One of the possible aids in detecting who has coronavirus and increasing the traceability of the infection is the rapid testes. But it's not easy to buy insurance and find out its usefulness. The Spanish government today acknowledged that it purchased more than half a million faulty fast pots. Llupià assures that the quality of this kind of test, when available devices, will be checked "with validations".

    https://www.totbarcelona.cat/societa...SxlcK8ZuI5b9Ck


    The political class should learn from these health professionals that they are the ones who are pulling the chestnuts out of the fire, risking their own lives.

    On the other hand, the panorama that is painted makes it very difficult not to end up getting infected sooner or later.

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    I would like confirmation if you can get it again once you had it..............and if so, does your immune system cope with this better

    we have 3 confirmed cases in Australia of 1 year olds getting it ( announce yesterday, actually less than 1 year olds ) ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I would like confirmation if you can get it again once you had it..............and if so, does your immune system cope with this better

    we have 3 confirmed cases in Australia of 1 year olds getting it ( announce yesterday, actually less than 1 year olds ) ............
    the first case is reported at Osaka Japan
    Female

    According to Chinese stats the % is 14% to reinfected by another corona,

    it is in Greek, you may use google translator,
    Σύμφωνα με τη βρετανική Daily Mail, ο κρατικός τηλεοπτικός σταθμός της Κίνας CCTV, μετέδωσε χθες την είδηση πως οι γιατροί βρήκαν πως η εκ νέου μόλυνση μπορεί να συμβεί ακόμη και στο 14% των ιαθέντων. Σε έρευνα που διεξήχθη, λοιπόν, στην Κίνα, 5 από τους 147 ασθενείς που συμμετείχαν βρέθηκαν για δεύτερη φορά θετικοί μετά την ανάρρωσή τους, ενώ σύμφωνα με τον αναπληρωτή διευθυντή του Κέντρου Ελέγχου και Πρόληψης Νοσημάτων της Κίνας, Song Tie, το ποσοστό όσων κολλούν τον κορονοϊό για δεύτερη φορά μπορεί να φτάνει και το 14%.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    @Northener

    Plz not Now,
    After the end or stabilization of CoronaWar we will have plenty of time.


    and all over the world there are 2 capitalistic model, by what I can see you call them right wings

    The one I call anarchocapitalism, great example of such is G Sorros, from Neo-liberians to GlobaloTraders amd money transfer, Friedman school
    The one I call middle class capitalism, typical of EU great glory days, Fiscal policy Central bank, Keynes model,

    The communistic theories of Marx have already been rejected,
    Yet it is a good study for economists and law school,

    The socialists had no model, only the dream and the social (name me public) help
    They have turn to be 2 groups in Europe
    The ones that make their flag after Toma Piketty's work
    the ones who accept a kind of 'social war' against capitalism, or monetarians, police and state, etc.
    the hardest of the last are the ones who comes in Greece and Italy to 'save illegal immigrants'


    Lately comes a new party,
    The Capitalo-Socialisto-Globalists,
    Like our ex prime minister,
    They support the idea of a Global Goverment,
    No I am supportive of the second one, an as broads as possible middle class....called Rhineland capitalism:
    https://www.vanharen.net/blog/rhineland-model-v-2-1/

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    Yes, I participated in them too, but I think the EU thread is more appropriate for political discussions going forward, as I already stated some posts back.

    Dr. Fauci's answers to common questions this morning on CNN. He talks about face masks, herd immunity, regular immunity, who's getting it,etc., in layman's terms.

    At last someone is being honest and admitting that the face mask advice was based on a fear that health professionals would run short.



    Btw, using the word "mess", is not Newyorkese, particularly; it's American English. I didn't realize it's unfamiliar to European speakers of English.
    https://ell.stackexchange.com/questi...t-a-mess/71855


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Yes, I participated in them too, but I think the EU thread is more appropriate for political discussions going forward, as I already stated some posts back.

    Dr. Fauci's answers to common questions this morning on CNN. He talks about face masks, herd immunity, regular immunity, who's getting it,etc., in layman's terms.

    At last someone is being honest and admitting that the face mask advice was based on a fear that health professionals would run short.



    Btw, using the word "mess", is not Newyorkese, particularly; it's American English. I didn't realize it's unfamiliar to European speakers of English.
    https://ell.stackexchange.com/questi...t-a-mess/71855
    It's not unfamiliar Angela, but is seen as somewhat overdone;)

    In the Netherlands the 'targeted lock down' is just extended to 28 april....and the schools are closed till 4 May....with overall a possibility of a prolonging of the measures.....so a 'house arrest' until begin May....a way to go.

    The government is going to pay all the salary of the people that are working in company that has lost 20% or more of the sales volume.... in order to prevent an 'economic lock down'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Yes, I participated in them too, but I think the EU thread is more appropriate for political discussions going forward, as I already stated some posts back.

    Dr. Fauci's answers to common questions this morning on CNN. He talks about face masks, herd immunity, regular immunity, who's getting it,etc., in layman's terms.

    At last someone is being honest and admitting that the face mask advice was based on a fear that health professionals would run short.



    Btw, using the word "mess", is not Newyorkese, particularly; it's American English. I didn't realize it's unfamiliar to European speakers of English.
    https://ell.stackexchange.com/questi...t-a-mess/71855
    Trivial detail....due to corona crisis the Euro Song Festival is down the gutter......

    For all the 'lock downers' here....the supposed to be Dutch contribution, the songtext reveals something more, a (personal) message, from me to everybody here ;)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    Trivial detail....due to corona crisis the Euro Song Festival is down the gutter......

    For all the 'lock downers' here....the supposed to be Dutch contribution, the songtext reveals something more, a (personal) message, from me to everybody here ;)

    You just can't help yourself, can you? Even in the midst of all of this, practically every post has a personal or national insult. You think because it's subtle it's ok?

    You've been exhibiting this kind of behavior since you showed up here, even on genetics threads with Maciamo. It didn't start with the Covid 19 discussions.

    For your information I've been against the EU for ten years or more; it has nothing to do with any emotional reaction to Covid 19.

    Did you think we wouldn't get your ethnic stereotyping that Southern Europeans are being too emotional? Or you thought that was the only way to do it and stay technically within the rules of the forum about insulting other people or ethnic groups?

    What if I posted a thread asking if it's true that European surveys show the Dutch are considered the least sympathetic,most obnoxious people in Europe? Would that pass muster? How about if I asked whether there are higher levels of Asperger's Disease in The Netherlands? How about that?

    I tried to give you a second chance, but you just won't stop. You are on permanent ignore as far as I'm concerned. You will get no responses from me.

    If people are smart, they'll do the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    You just can't help yourself, can you? Even in the midst of all of this, practically every post has a personal or national insult. You think because it's subtle it's ok?

    You've been exhibiting this kind of behavior since you showed up here, even on genetics threads with Maciamo. It didn't start with the Covid 19 discussions.

    For your information I've been against the EU for ten years or more; it has nothing to do with any emotional reaction to Covid 19.

    Did you think we wouldn't get your ethnic stereotyping that Southern Europeans are being too emotional? Or you thought that was the only way to do it and stay technically within the rules of the forum about insulting other people or ethnic groups?

    What if I posted a thread asking if it's true that European surveys show the Dutch are considered the least sympathetic,most obnoxious people in Europe? Would that pass muster? How about if I asked whether there are higher levels of Asperger's Disease in The Netherlands? How about that?

    I tried to give you a second chance, but you just won't stop. You are on permanent ignore as far as I'm concerned. You will get no responses from me.

    If people are smart, they'll do the same thing.
    We communicatie besides each other.

    That mess thing is something about New York, you talk imo in a NY way, that's in our ears sometimes kind of rough....no problem with that. And if I listen well to Cuomo that is even part of the NY self awareness.

    "Did you think we wouldn't get your ethnic stereotyping that Southern Europeans are being too emotional?"
    That's something that I didn’t mention in a single contribution. So I don't know what you are meaning. Based on nothing.

    What if I posted a thread asking if it's true that European surveys show the Dutch are considered the least sympathetic,most obnoxious people in Europe? Would that pass muster? How about if I asked whether there are higher levels of Asperger's Disease in The Netherlands? How about that?
    Be my guest. To me it are kind of laughable questions. But make it to a topic. I consider it kind of humor.


    I tried to give you a second chance, but you just won't stop. You are on permanent ignore as far as I'm concerned. You will get no responses from me.If people are smart, they'll do the same thing.
    The way you communicate does remind me of a sit com we saw in the eighties, the Golden Girls, you probably know it. And of them was Sophia Petrolli. Mark this is not stereotyping all Southerners or Italians (sic!), but you style reminds me very striking of her, wiki:

    Sophia is best known for her wisecracks, put-downs and brazen remarks,
    You don't seem aware how much this marks this forum.....

    My grandfather told me 'every bird sings as they were born', so no single problem with any style or whatsoever but a public and repetitive call for ostracism is IMO not fair, nothing more nothing less.

    Live and let live Angela! And debate is an oxygen of a forum....even if you don't like the person or the opinions of the members!
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    the statistics upon now published data
    the order is according spread over population.


    COUNTRY Population /1000 Confirmed infected deaths upon confirmed Confirmed infected /1000 people deaths /confirmed infected














    1 San Marino 33 236 26 7,1515 0,1102
    Europe with Spain's Statistics (No Russia-No Turkey)
    2 Andora 76 376 12 4,9474 0,0319
    3 Luxenbourg 614 2178 23 3,5472 0,0106


    4 Feroe isls 52 169 0 3,2500 0,0000
    Infected Deaths
    5 Iceland 364 1135 2 3,1181 0,0018
    1229956,45 39954,92
    6 Spain 46733 95223 8464 2,0376 0,0889


    7 Swiss 8570 16605 433 1,9376 0,0261
    Europe with Italy's Statistics (No Russia-No Turkey)
    8 Italy 60318 105792 12428 1,7539 0,1175
    9 Liechtenstein 39 68 0 1,7436 0,0000


    10 Austria 8903 10180 128 1,1434 0,0126
    Infected Deaths
    11 Belgium 11516 12775 705 1,1093 0,0552
    1058711,01 70912,04
    12 EU 449507 396282 27863 0,8816 0,0703


    13 Norway 5368 4641 39 0,8646 0,0084


    14 Deutch 83149 71808 775 0,8636 0,0108


    15 France 67022 52128 3523 0,7778 0,0676


    16 Porugal 10277 7443 160 0,7242 0,0215
    USA with Spain's statistics
    17 Netherlands 17425 12595 1039 0,7228 0,0825
    18 USA 328240 188172 3873 0,5733 0,0206


    19 Esthonia 1328 745 4 0,5610 0,0054
    Infected Deaths
    20 Ireland 6573 3235 71 0,4922 0,0219
    668820,69 29175,97
    21 Denmark 5823 2860 90 0,4912 0,0315


    22 sweden 10303 4435 180 0,4305 0,0406
    USA with Italy's statistics
    23 Slovenia 2100 802 15 0,3819 0,0187
    24 UK 67547 25150 1789 0,3723 0,0711


    25 Malta 494 169 0 0,3421 0,0000
    Infected Deaths
    26 Czech 10650 3308 31 0,3106 0,0094
    575701,55 38560,26
    27 Finland 5521 1418 17 0,2568 0,0120


    28 Cyprus 1189 262 8 0,2204 0,0305


    29 Croatia 4076 867 6 0,2127 0,0069


    30 Lettonia 1920 398 0 0,2073 0,0000


    31 Lithuania 2794 537 8 0,1922 0,0149
    32 Montenegro 631 109 2 0,1727 0,0183
    33 Turkey 82004 13531 214 0,1650 0,0158
    34 Severna Mac 2077 329 9 0,1584 0,0274
    China with Spain's statistics
    35 Moldova 2682 353 4 0,1316 0,0113
    36 Serbia 6964 900 16 0,1292 0,0178


    37 Greece 10768 1314 49 0,1220 0,0373
    Infected Deaths
    38 Bosnia 3511 420 13 0,1196 0,0310
    2908970,65 126898,05
    39 Romania 19402 2245 82 0,1157 0,0365
    40 Albania 2877 243 15 0,0845 0,0617
    China with Italy's statistics
    41 Slovakia 5450 363 0 0,0666 0,0000
    42 Kossovo 1810 112 1 0,0619 0,0089


    43 Poland 38386 2311 33 0,0602 0,0143
    Infected Deaths
    44 mainland China 1427648 82279 3309 0,0576 0,0402
    2503957,98 167714,09
    45 Bulgaria 7000 399 8 0,0570 0,0201
    46 Hungary 9773 492 16 0,0503 0,0325
    47 Belarus 9492 152 1 0,0160 0,0066
    48 Russia 146745 2337 17 0,0159 0,0073
    49 Ukraine 42031 645 17 0,0153 0,0264














    Average Europe -Russia -Turkey 603631 447925 30242 0,742 0,068





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    Observations

    the ratio among biggest confirmed infected country to lowest at EU is 70,52 times !!!!! (LUX/HUN)

    East of Alps all countries are bellow average EU's infection !!!!!!

    the graph on a logarithic scale shows a stability on Italy and Swiss, but a liitle tense for Spain, but under a control situation
    estimation of full control can be done for the above but what meaning has to post it, some countries appear to have 2 booms.

    Italy keeps the record of high confirmed mortality, while some other countries keep 0,00 like Latvia 0/398

    EU compare to China
    confirmed infection ratio 15.29 times
    confirmed mortality 1.75 times.
    only 2 countries bellow China's average.

    comparing Mortality and spread over the population (virus effectiveness to bring death according virus spread)
    Ukraine and Albania appear to have the biggest, while Feroe isls have lowest =0




    The previous matrix according confirmed mortality.

    COUNTRY Population /1000 Confirmed infected deaths upon confirmed Confirmed infected /1000 people deaths /confirmed infected






    1 Italy 60318 105792 12428 1,7539 0,1175
    1 San Marino 33 236 26 7,1515 0,1102
    2 Spain 46733 95223 8464 2,0376 0,0889
    3 Netherlands 17425 12595 1039 0,7228 0,0825
    4 UK 67547 25150 1789 0,3723 0,0711
    5 EU 449507 396282 27863 0,8816 0,0703
    6 France 67022 52128 3523 0,7778 0,0676
    7 Albania 2877 243 15 0,0845 0,0617
    8 Belgium 11516 12775 705 1,1093 0,0552
    9 sweden 10303 4435 180 0,4305 0,0406
    10 mainland China 1427648 82279 3309 0,0576 0,0402
    11 Greece 10768 1314 49 0,1220 0,0373
    12 Romania 19402 2245 82 0,1157 0,0365
    13 Hungary 9773 492 16 0,0503 0,0325
    14 Andora 76 376 12 4,9474 0,0319
    15 Denmark 5823 2860 90 0,4912 0,0315
    16 Bosnia 3511 420 13 0,1196 0,0310
    17 Cyprus 1189 262 8 0,2204 0,0305
    18 Severna Mac 2077 329 9 0,1584 0,0274
    19 Ukraine 42031 645 17 0,0153 0,0264
    20 Swiss 8570 16605 433 1,9376 0,0261
    21 Ireland 6573 3235 71 0,4922 0,0219
    22 Porugal 10277 7443 160 0,7242 0,0215
    23 USA 328240 189510 3900 0,5774 0,0206
    24 Bulgaria 7000 399 8 0,0570 0,0201
    25 Slovenia 2100 802 15 0,3819 0,0187
    26 Montenegro 631 109 2 0,1727 0,0183
    27 Serbia 6964 900 16 0,1292 0,0178
    28 Turkey 82004 13531 214 0,1650 0,0158
    29 Lithuania 2794 537 8 0,1922 0,0149
    30 Poland 38386 2311 33 0,0602 0,0143
    31 Austria 8903 10180 128 1,1434 0,0126
    32 Finland 5521 1418 17 0,2568 0,0120
    33 Moldova 2682 353 4 0,1316 0,0113
    34 Deutch 83149 71808 775 0,8636 0,0108
    35 Luxenbourg 614 2178 23 3,5472 0,0106
    36 Czech 10650 3308 31 0,3106 0,0094
    37 Kossovo 1810 112 1 0,0619 0,0089
    38 Norway 5368 4641 39 0,8646 0,0084
    39 Russia 146745 2337 17 0,0159 0,0073
    40 Croatia 4076 867 6 0,2127 0,0069
    41 Belarus 9492 152 1 0,0160 0,0066
    42 Esthonia 1328 745 4 0,5610 0,0054
    43 Iceland 364 1135 2 3,1181 0,0018
    44 Feroe isls 52 169 0 3,2500 0,0000
    45 Liechtenstein 39 68 0 1,7436 0,0000
    46 Malta 494 169 0 0,3421 0,0000
    47 Lettonia 1920 398 0 0,2073 0,0000
    48 Slovakia 5450 363 0 0,0666 0,0000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Anemia Mediterranea ?

    A lot of people have it in my town in Italy.

    They test everyone for it, and before couples get married too.
    (I guess is not needed for some new Couples anymore) lol

    Ironic, I’m negative for it ... and I thought I was so lucky :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Yes, Regio, I saw it in the Italian press too.

    I'm surprised he says malaria is still present there, although I know it used to be in the areas around the Po, but it's certainly possible that people with long ancestry there might have higher levels of thalassemia.

    Whether, if they carry it in higher numbers, it's protective, I don't know.

    Interestingly enough, people who have malaria are given quinine, and hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) is being tested because it seems to help some patients who have severe Covid 19. I hope they hurry up with the tests. People with autoimmune disorders like rheumatoid arthritis have been taking it for decades, and the only worrying side effect at "very" high doses is vision changes, so people are checked periodically.

    The question of varying genetic susceptibility to Covid 19 is something I've been thinking about too. The common cold is a coronavirus too, after all, and some people are much more susceptible.

    I was actually going to post this article.

    "Yosuke Tanigawa and Manuel Rivas of Stanford University, who have also been involved in the Host Genetics Initiative, studied data from UK Biobank to look at leucocyte antigens and blood types to understand the role of genetics in Covid-19 infections. Their work, which has not been peer-reviewed, was published on preprints.org on March 24."

    "Drawing on studies that found an association between more severe Covid-19 cases and individuals with lower lymphocyte – or white blood cell – counts, the two said that lymphocyte count “may play a role in susceptibility to viral infection and disease progression”.


    Their study also found “significant and consistent risk reduction” for the coronavirus from people with type O blood, lending support to an earlier study by Chinese researchers
    that found patients with type A blood had higher rate of infection and tended to have more severe Covid-19 symptoms, while those with type O blood had a lower risk of serious infection."
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...tible-covid-19




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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    if it is about Malaria could explain a lot,
    cause in the begin some scientists expect to boom in Africa India etc
    offcourse some say it is due to temperature.


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