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    I thought better of it. One shouldn't feed the t-rolls.


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    I'm just sharing a news story, to the knowledge of those who don't know it yet. I do not intend to enter into political debate.



    Summary: The Prime Minister of Portugal, Antonio Costa, vehemently repudiated the attitude of the Holland’s Minister of Economy regarding Spain during an EU council meeting. Pedro Sanchez, President of Spain, as well as Italy’s Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte were both present at the meeting when Wopke Hoekstra, Holland’s Minister of Economy who is against the idea of ‘corona bonus’ (like Angela Markell, also), said that Brussels should investigate countries like Spain for not having a budgetary margin to fight the pandemic, despite the fact that the euro has been growing for the last seven years.

    At a press conference after the meeting, Costa criticised Hoekstra’s comments as “disgusting, mean-spirited and contrary to the discourse of the European Union”.

    He reminded member states that, “if we do not respect each other and do not understand that we are currently facing a common challenge, nobody will understand what the European Union is about, we have to have to be able to respond together.”

    Continuing his speechhe he said “that the virus was not created or imported by Spain.”

    The council, which meeting all European leaders was focused on reaching a consensus on what measures should be taken within the Union to help member states economically.

    Furthermore, the Portuguese Prime Minister considered the EU’s response to the current economic crisis being caused by the coronavirus as “manifestly insufficient.” He insisted on the need to collaborate and issue joint debt through the so-called ‘corona bonus.’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    I'm just sharing a news story, to the knowledge of those who don't know it yet. I do not intend to enter into political debate.



    Summary: The Prime Minister of Portugal, Antonio Costa, vehemently repudiated the attitude of the Holland’s Minister of Economy regarding Spain during an EU council meeting. Pedro Sanchez, President of Spain, as well as Italy’s Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte were both present at the meeting when Wopke Hoekstra, Holland’s Minister of Economy who is against the idea of ‘corona bonus’ (like Angela Markell, also), said that Brussels should investigate countries like Spain for not having a budgetary margin to fight the pandemic, despite the fact that the euro has been growing for the last seven years.

    At a press conference after the meeting, Costa criticised Hoekstra’s comments as “disgusting, mean-spirited and contrary to the discourse of the European Union”.

    He reminded member states that, “if we do not respect each other and do not understand that we are currently facing a common challenge, nobody will understand what the European Union is about, we have to have to be able to respond together.”

    Continuing his speechhe he said “that the virus was not created or imported by Spain.”

    The council, which meeting all European leaders was focused on reaching a consensus on what measures should be taken within the Union to help member states economically.

    Furthermore, the Portuguese Prime Minister considered the EU’s response to the current economic crisis being caused by the coronavirus as “manifestly insufficient.” He insisted on the need to collaborate and issue joint debt through the so-called ‘corona bonus.’
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    The Dutch government is willing to contribute up to 1 billion euros to a yet-to-be-established European fund aimed at dealing with the coronavirus, Minister Wopke Hoekstra of Finance said. Countries hit hard by Covid-19 and that are not in good financial health can turn to the fund to finance medical aid. "I am thinking roughly of a few hundred million to 1 billion euros," Hoekstra said to NU.nl on Wednesday.

    The Finance Minister stressed that this is not a loan, but a gift, and the Netherlands' "substantial contribution to public health in Europe". Countries who call on this fund must clearly need help, Hoekstra said. Figuring out exactly how the control and release of the funds will work, and the conditions attached, is the next step, he said.

    Unlike the still contested European Stability Mechanism (ESM), contribution to this fund is not mandatory for EU Member States. The member states are free to decide if and how much they want to contribute. According to Hoekstra, there is "broad enthusiasm" among his European colleagues for this fund.

    Hoekstra stressed that the Netherlands is and will remain vehemently against so-called coronabonds, where the funds raised from selling such bond instruments would be used to help all member states overcome economic hurdles during the ongoing health crisis. The money could then be invested in supporting any EU member state, while repayment obligations would be the responsibility of the entire EU. Italy and Spain, both very hard hit by the coronavirus, insist on such bonds, the Netherlands and other countries including Germany, France and Belgium are against it.

    The Dutch resistance to coronabonds resulted in fierce criticism from Italy. Especially after Hoekstra said that countries should first pull out all the stops to recover from the economic downturn themselves. This statement prompted indignation, given that the Netherlands has far less public debt than Italy and therefore has much more financial room.

    Hoekstra understands the anger from Italy, he said to NU.nl. He previously acknowledged that his statements showed a lack of empathy. "It is now the task to proceed wisely with each other," he said to NU.nl.

    Prime Minister Mark Rutte announced the plan for a coronavirus fund during a parliamentary debate on Wednesday. He said he will discuss this plan with European Council president Charles Michel, Italian Prime Minster Giuseppe Conte, and Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez in the near future.





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    I wonder if I will go back to having long hair, like in my teenage years. Now that it is impossible for me to get a hair-cut for the foreseeable future.
    There can be no covenants between men and lions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I wonder if I will go back to having long hair, like in my teenage years. Now that it is impossible for me to get a hair-cut for the foreseeable future.
    My poor hair, what a tragedy!

    I’ve been wearing a different hat every time I go out (to protect from Covid-19 too).

    ... not the one below yet, I’m in very blue State.

    It's not good for my health around here, lol


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    "Fauci says he 'doesn't understand why' the entire US is not under a stay-at-home order. Here's why its absence could make America's coronavirus problem even worse."

    I don't understand also. Moreover, I don't understand why this kind of person is not in Canada.

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    ... is getting really bad

    We're out of options in the Tri-state area.

    We tried ..., I don't know if we made mistakes, but it doesn't matter anymore, it's too late now.

    Let's ride the storm with confidence and dignity.

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    Greece is not on a big boom, (thalassaemia? very high %, maybe highest in Europe and Med sea.)
    yet has high mortality due to age of population.

    Some statistics
    Starting date 01/01/2020 to 02/04/2020
    tests done 22437
    positive 1524 6.8%

    gender
    male 54.4
    female 45.6

    age
    coloumn 1 age
    coloumn 2 infected
    coloumn 3 deths
    coloumn 4 under support



    average age of infected is 49 years (0-95)
    average age of dead 71 years old,
    min age of dead is 39 years old.
    max age of dead is 93 years old.

    average reason of infection
    1) trip abroad (mainly from Holy lands and tourism, secondary Italy, Turkey, England, Austria students, immigrants) 20.8 %
    2) relation or connection with above, (family, work, etc) 34.9 %
    3) the rest are orphan cases, no possible to detect, 44.3%

    PS
    many in Greece believe that have or pass corovirus
    But they had seasonal flue or H2N3 influenza
    the deaths from influenza are still double the ones of Coronavirus here.

    and is not only the viruses and 'STAY HOME' yesterday we had snow !!!!! at April month,
    Mother Nature uses even the weather, to warn us.
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    Nemesis and punishment follows.

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