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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Question of an ignorant like me,

    concerning the numbers of spring and today, and the theory 'immune of the pack'
    if there is no immune of the pack, and antibodies weaken by time, as many researches show.
    the vaccine would be permanent? or every year we will make a new one?
    Since we don't have enough history/experience with this particular virus assume for the time being that you need yearly vaccination just like with the regular flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    Since we don't have enough history/experience with this particular virus assume for the time being that you need yearly vaccination just like with the regular flu.
    can I have some shares of medical industries plz?

    cause from what I read, and as you wrote (same is my believe)
    if it is true that at a time of 3-6 months antibodies just 'puff on air', then might be 2 times a year? possible?
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    BTW
    Asterix among prophets.

    title Asterix and the chariot race.
    publishedf 2017 !!!!

    chariot rider name Coronovirus, helper name Bacillus.








    Uhhh global conspiracy? or Asterix a prophet?

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    Covid risk in U.S. in real time.
    https://twitter.com/briandavidearp/s...801088/photo/1

    What the heck is up with the upper midwest and Illinois etc? What are they doing wrong, or is it genetics?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Covid risk in U.S. in real time.
    https://twitter.com/briandavidearp/s...801088/photo/1
    What the heck is up with the upper midwest and Illinois etc? What are they doing wrong, or is it genetics?
    Yeah, over 52 million cases WW. So knowing that some did not even have symptoms and could've recovered from the virus before. It is likely that the bulk of American population will recover from it by the time the vaccine comes fully in function.
    It was all about preventing hospitals from being overloaded, well that's almost done.

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    It has always been about overloading hospitals and health systems. Even Fauci recognizes that another lockdown will not happen so just wear your masks and avoid crowds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    BTW
    Asterix among prophets.

    title Asterix and the chariot race.
    publishedf 2017 !!!!

    chariot rider name Coronovirus, helper name Bacillus.








    Uhhh global conspiracy? or Asterix a prophet?
    Hahaha. On a serious note, neither. Coronaviruses are a group of viruses, some viruses that cause the common cold are coronaviruses. The ones that cause SARS, MERS, and COVID-19 are also coronaviruses. Coronavirus the term by itself in 2019-20 has come to refer to SARS-CoV-2, when it really shouldn’t.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Covid risk in U.S. in real time.
    https://twitter.com/briandavidearp/s...801088/photo/1

    What the heck is up with the upper midwest and Illinois etc? What are they doing wrong, or is it genetics?
    Perhaps these areas are more apt to not take precautions? Perhaps they don’t take this seriously? There are reasons PPE is recommended and a lot of people flat out reject the science because wearing a mask and disinfecting has become so politicized.

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    "Background The severity of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is highly heterogenous. Studies have reported that males and some ethnic groups are at increased risk of death from COVID-19, which implies that individual risk of death might be influenced by host genetic factors."

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....05.20226761v1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    "Background The severity of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is highly heterogenous. Studies have reported that males and some ethnic groups are at increased risk of death from COVID-19, which implies that individual risk of death might be influenced by host genetic factors."

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....05.20226761v1
    "43 Conclusions

    44 Eight genetic variants are identified to significantly increase risk of COVID-19 mortality

    45 among the patients with white British ancestry. These findings may provide timely

    46 evidence and clues for better understanding the molecular pathogenesis of COVID-19

    47 and genetic basis of heterogeneous susceptibility, with potential impact on new

    48 therapeutic options."

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    So going by the pre-print, and other findings from previous studies; Covid-19 is most dangerous for Type-A blood, elderly, white British males, with comorbidities. Yet it has disproportionality affected lower-income African-American, and non-white Hispanics communities in the USA. Part of this may have to do with behavioral health disparities, compounded with access to healthcare:



    Double Jeopardy: COVID-19 and Behavioral Health Disparities for Black and Latino
    Communities in the U.S. (Submitted by OBHE)

    https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default...ommunities.pdf

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    I am A + and my wife and son are A- I had covid 19 with strong symptoms and my son and wife are still unharmed. Of the three I was the one who taken more careful and, despite that, the only one who got contaminated. In my example of family, it seems that the fact that both have the blood type Rh- is protect both until now, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    So going by the pre-print, and other findings from previous studies; Covid-19 is most dangerous for Type-A blood, elderly, white British males, with comorbidities. Yet it has disproportionality affected lower-income African-American, and non-white Hispanics communities in the USA. Part of this may have to do with behavioral health disparities, compounded with access to healthcare:



    Double Jeopardy: COVID-19 and Behavioral Health Disparities for Black and Latino
    Communities in the U.S. (Submitted by OBHE)

    https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default...ommunities.pdf
    Well a lot of the essential front line workers might be African-Americans and Latinos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    Well a lot of the essential front line workers might be African-Americans and Latinos.
    Here are the facts:


    Key Findings
     Female workers represent the majority in 25 of the 30 U.S. healthoccupations analyzed here.
     There is considerable variation in racial and ethnic diversity by occupationalgroups.
     All minority groups, except Asians are underrepresented in Health Diagnosisand Treating occupations.
     Hispanics, Asians and Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islanders are underrepresentedamong Counselors and Social Workers (Community and Social Serviceoccupation).
     Personal Care and Service Occupations is the most diverse occupational group,followed by occupations belonging to the Healthcare Support group.

    https://bhw.hrsa.gov/sites/default/f...ccupations.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by firetown View Post
    On January 25th was Chinese New Year and around 1 Million Chinese visitors came to Thailand. Around 20,000 of them were from Wuhan. It took almost 2 months for the number of cases to exceed 100.
    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    I am A + and my wife and son are A- I had covid 19 with strong symptoms and my son and wife are still unharmed. Of the three I was the one who taken more careful and, despite that, the only one who got contaminated. In my example of family, it seems that the fact that both have the blood type Rh- is protect both until now, I think.
    Many more studies are coming out indicating the same: Rh negatives have some protection from all 3, infection, intubation and death.
    https://www.rhesusnegative.net/stayn...ion-and-death/
    We found slightly increased infection prevalence among non-O types. Risk of intubation was decreased among A and increased among AB and B types, compared with type O, while risk of death was increased for type AB and decreased for types A and B. We estimated Rh-negative blood type to have a protective effect for all three outcomes. Our results add to the growing body of evidence suggesting blood type may play a role in COVID-19.
    In Asia and Africa, complete Rh(D) gene deletions are rare, so there is a possibility that those with Asian and African ancestries who are statistically Rh negative may not be protected in the same manner.
    Last edited by firetown; 16-11-20 at 11:22.
    If you search this forum for "blood type", "rhesus negative" or "rh negative", you will probably see my posts.

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    Ancient coronavirus epidemic drove adaptation in East Asians.

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...11.16.385401v1

    "Abstract

    The current SARS-CoV-2 pandemic has emphasized the vulnerability of human populations to novel viral pressures, despite the vast array of epidemiological and biomedical tools now available. Notably, modern human genomes contain evolutionary information tracing back tens of thousands of years, which may help identify the viruses that have impacted our ancestors - pointing to which viruses have future pandemic potential. Here, we apply evolutionary analyses to human genomic datasets to recover selection events involving tens of human genes that interact with coronaviruses, including SARS-CoV-2, that started 25,000 years ago. These adaptive events were limited to ancestral East Asian populations, the geographical origin of several modern coronavirus epidemics. An arms race with an ancient corona-like virus may thus have taken place in ancestral East Asian populations. By learning more about our ancient viral foes, our study highlights the promise of evolutionary information to combat the pandemics of the future."

    Great...now the Chinese government will have more candidates for biological warfare.

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    People with blood type O have less chances of getting Covid-19
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    A person’s blood type may slightly lower their risk of contracting COVID-19, according to a Canadian study.
    According to the findings of the study, O blood groups have 12% less chances of being infected by COVID-19 compared to the other blood groups. Moreover, those with a negative blood group (O-, A-, B-, AB-) have 21% less danger of being infected by COVID-19.
    Consequently people with O- blood type seem to have the least danger of all.
    The findings of the Canadian study are in line with the findings of an older Chinese study which was the first one ascertaining that not all blood types have the same danger of being infected by COVID-19.
    (AFP)

    https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/peop...ting-covid-19/



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    Quote Originally Posted by firetown View Post
    On January 25th was Chinese New Year and around 1 Million Chinese visitors came to Thailand. Around 20,000 of them were from Wuhan. It took almost 2 months for the number of cases to exceed 100.
    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    People with blood type O have less chances of getting Covid-19
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    A person’s blood type may slightly lower their risk of contracting COVID-19, according to a Canadian study.
    According to the findings of the study, O blood groups have 12% less chances of being infected by COVID-19 compared to the other blood groups. Moreover, those with a negative blood group (O-, A-, B-, AB-) have 21% less danger of being infected by COVID-19.
    Consequently people with O- blood type seem to have the least danger of all.
    The findings of the Canadian study are in line with the findings of an older Chinese study which was the first one ascertaining that not all blood types have the same danger of being infected by COVID-19.
    (AFP)

    https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/peop...ting-covid-19/


    So far, this seems to be where we're at:

    the study.png

    https://www.rhesusnegative.net/stayn...ion-and-death/

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    Money:
    2020 Best Places to Live In The U.S.
    ... 50 Towns and Cities With Strong Economies, Job Growth and Booming Housing Markets Despite COVID-19 Disruptions ...


    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/money-announces-the-2020-best-places-to-live-in-the-us-as-the-pandemic-prompts-a-shift-away-from-urban-living-301135798.html

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    https://www.rhesusnegative.net/staynegative/o-and-rh-negative-blood-types-may-already-have-covid-19-antibodies/

    Those four main blood groups—A, AB, B, and O—can be Rh-positive or Rh-negative, meaning that there are 8 blood groups in total. When the researchers looked at this second classification, there was further good news—people in any blood group which is Rh-negative are also “somewhat protected” from the virus.

    “An Rh− status seemed protective against SARS-CoV-2 infection,” the study authors wrote. Additionally, “Rh− had a lower [adjusted relative risk] of severe COVID-19 illness or death.”
    Those who are O-negative may be the least likely to get COVID.
    If a patient was O-negative, they were particularly protected from the novel coronavirus, the authors noted. “Rh− blood type was protective against SARS-CoV-2 infection, especially for those who were O-negative,” they wrote.

    “Joel Ray, MD, of St. Michael’s Hospital, suggested that people with these more resistant blood types may have already developed antibodies that can recognize certain aspects of the novel coronavirus and are therefore better prepared to fight it off”.

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    Well, I guess I'd better be extra careful the next few months.

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    The new 'global conspiracy' about coronovirus
    it has to do with states Health organizations/assciations
    and mainly with the many daeths especially of doctors and nurses who treat Covid patiens.

    Most countries accepted fast the new vaccines, with so little historical darta behind
    Although statistical correct,
    But most Health associations did not accept fast the cure of monoclonal antibodies, which could save a lot of souls,
    especially Doctors and nurses, and some young people,

    We left as Humanity the typical fast treatment,
    and we all run for the vacine,
    wonder why? and by whom? we lay all our hopes at the vaccine
    and usage of Monoclonal antibodies was restricted only to some persons,

    Monoclonal Antibodies against Covid (Trump's cure)

    It is not certified when they were ready,
    But seems they were from middle / end of June, considering the time the companies started the 'infection' of 'guinea pig' at March.
    Yet the 'allow' for public use was given after 21 NOE 2020,
    Almost the days of the vaccines anouncements,

    I mention 2
    Lilly's
    Regeneron

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    They don't want to treat it; they want to cure it.

    Also, part of the goal is not to overwhelm hospitals etc.

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    Yes we do not have a lot of history with these vaccines but I will be in line as soon as my age/risk group is allowed to have it.

    1 18 yo and 2 20 something girls have contracted the virus in our circle with severe symptoms but not requiring hospitalization. Not overwhelming hospital systems is the name of the game and they are getting overwhelmed in some of the states in the US.

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    Yes offcourse,

    But my friend, suffers by bipolar disorder, and fear of lonelyness
    he lives by public aid, but mainly parents help.
    before 10 days he lost his father, and before 4 his mother
    Now he is in panic, alone in a house, and in the care of his sister who has a family
    if they knew, I am certain they gladly pay for monoclonal antibodies,

    As also the many young that died,
    and mainly the Doctors and nurses who treat covid patients,

    Personally I do not feel proud as human living at 2000,
    when we left so many to die, when we could prevail this.
    and create a further wider circle of antibodies production,
    I FIND THE WAY WE USED Covid is INHUMAN to what we could do.

    We make a 'maze runner' episode as humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Yes offcourse,

    But my friend, suffers by bipolar disorder, and fear of lonelyness
    he lives by public aid, but mainly parents help.
    before 10 days he lost his father, and before 4 his mother
    Now he is in panic, alone in a house, and in the care of his sister who has a family
    if they knew, I am certain they gladly pay for monoclonal antibodies,

    As also the many young that died,
    and mainly the Doctors and nurses who treat covid patients,

    Personally I do not feel proud as human living at 2000,
    when we left so many to die, when we could prevail this.
    and create a further wider circle of antibodies production,
    I FIND THE WAY WE USED Covid is INHUMAN to what we could do.

    We make a 'maze runner' episode as humanity.
    I'm so sorry. What a heartbreaking story. Is there any news as to when the vaccine will be distributed in your area? I know that there are cancer patients who are being e-mailed that as soon as the vaccine is available they will be called, so obviously there's a list and cancer patients are high up on the list. Fwiw, both Langone and Memorial Sloan Kettering have done it.

    Are you saying he already has it? If he does, couldn't your national health service provide it on humanitarian grounds if nothing else? Or someone could start a fund me campaign to raise money if doses are even available.

    What an awful mess.

    I've just been so angry about the lost and wasted lives, the human suffering both from the disease itself, the psychological effect of the isolation, and the tanking of the economy, and most of all that those ultimately responsible, like China and organizations like the WHO, with whom Fauci originally concurred by the way, pay no price for it.

    This is what left wing wokedom leads to...

    "Amazing that on Feb 13, The Lancet publishes an article from 16 global health law scholars AGAINST TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS (because is may be xenophobic). The WHO was also opposed to travel restrictions. This kind of thinking is deadly."

    Xenophobic be damned. If an unknown virus is loose, close all your borders immediately. Oh, and as I advised when the WHO and Fauci and Berks or whoever she is said it was inadvisable, wear MASKS. Use some goddamn common sense.

    Damn it, is the world full of fools with no ability to think rationally and pragmatically and put aside all their b.s. ideology of any kind??? Or is it even worse? Do ideologues of both the left and the right put politics above human suffering? I get so angry I have to turn off the tv for fear my already high blood pressure (a family curse) will shoot up so high I'll have a heart attack. :) The medications can only do so much.

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