Health New Coronavirus in China

while nations cannot work and make money due to this pandemic ........the chinese have a lot of "cannon-fodder populace" to continue to work to make profit from other nations misery
 
Or call it bartering, which has been going on for a hell of a lot longer than capitalism.

If France hadn't yet signed a contract, they have no recourse. If they did, they can sue China, for all the good that will do them given it's China and the times we're living in. They have no course of action against the U.S.

It's called every country for itself.The U.S. and France are not in any union, after all.

Oh, and in China whistle blowers lately haven't been fired; they disappear.

Fwiw, I agree with you: it's absolute madness.

Well I will not call these situations as Capitalism, rather as Oportunism, and Anarchy
and chinese know well how to control it,
and Fance is in EU,
USA is a Union by its shelf,
And both are top of NATO,

and there is no need to 'dissapear' someone,
Firing, with these 'unemployment' days is better, more torturing,

he would love to see modern madness.
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As for EU,
Europe knows the cannibalization of WUDO.
a new modern cannibalization, then a new Union,
 
Thank goodness; the Paycheck Protection Program goes into effect tomorrow. Small businesses (i.e.500 or fewer employees) will get loans, and if the money is used for wages for employees and overhead it is totally forgiveable.

There are also tax credits to put against your tax bill for each employee you keep or rehire.

This will make a tremendous difference given that half of our business is conducted by "small" businesses.

@Yetos,
Let's say you were selling your house last August for 500K Euro. You were offered 500K, but someone knocked on your door and said he really loves it and he'll give you 550K. To whom would you sell?

That's our business. It's called a bidding war and happens every day, and I'm sure it happens in Greece too.

This is how the real world works.

There is also no freaking way it's better to have to try to find another job as a nurse, especially now, than to be killed or thrown into a prison to rot for the rest of your days.

As for totalitarianism, Hungary has already slipped into a dictatorship, while Russia has always been one. We'll see who are the next to fall.

Another piece of good news: Trump will do as Cuomo asked and the federal government will run the converted Javits center as a dedicated COVID 19 hospital. This is what needs to be done: get the Covid patients out of the regular hospitals and into specialized facilities to limit the transfer of the infection, and so special procedures can be set up to maintain the health of the staff.

Doctors and other medical staff from across the country in areas where there is less of a problem are being asked to go online to a special site to volunteer to work in areas like New York, New Orleans and Detroit.
 
Thank goodness; the Paycheck Protection Program goes into effect tomorrow. Small businesses (i.e.500 or fewer employees) will get loans, and if the money is used for wages for employees and overhead it is totally forgiveable.

There are also tax credits to put against your tax bill for each employee you keep or rehire.

This will make a tremendous difference given that half of our business is conducted by "small" businesses.

@Yetos,
Let's say you were selling your house last August for 500K Euro. You were offered 500K, but someone knocked on your door and said he really loves it and he'll give you 550K. To whom would you sell?

That's our business. It's called a bidding war and happens every day, and I'm sure it happens in Greece too.

This is how the real world works.

There is also no freaking way it's better to have to try to find another job as a nurse, especially now, than to be killed or thrown into a prison to rot for the rest of your days.

As for totalitarianism, Hungary has already slipped into a dictatorship, while Russia has always been one. We'll see who are the next to fall.

Another piece of good news: Trump will do as Cuomo asked and the federal government will run the converted Javits center as a dedicated COVID 19 hospital. This is what needs to be done: get the Covid patients out of the regular hospitals and into specialized facilities to limit the transfer of the infection, and so special procedures can be set up to maintain the health of the staff.

Doctors and other medical staff from across the country in areas where there is less of a problem are being asked to go online to a special site to volunteer to work in areas like New York, New Orleans and Detroit.

Yes Angela, this is how things are done,
if you had an imaginary brother at Italy,
who worked to pay for Visa tickets etc to send you other side of ocean,
and you get rich there but never pay back,
Then if he sells your part of heritage at 1 000 000 E,
but say to you I sold 500 000, and gives you 250 000
Then you will not have any problem,
this is also how things are done today at modern Capitalism.
the word is TRUST

we still both have patience.

we have seen people beaten in China,
people die in Europe at least at hospitals by Euthanasia
we also have seen some other countries people die on streets,
by Corona, but never confirmed,

so NATO is just a tale about fairries nowdays,
As Macron said, a brain dead organisation.

as for Orban and Hungary, all EU members know and wait,
As for Russia, :LOL: :LOL:
it is not Europeans, BUT USAers who say that he had help from Putin, :grin: , the other blond on the other side of world.
well did his 'brother' Putin help? or not? :LOL: :LOL: 60 tons of masks.
offcourse you may prefer the sister of Sorros,

at the aftermath
EU is bad for not helping the surpised by Coronavirus Italy
But USA done fair for 'stealing' the ready to transer masks from China, altough had 1 month more to prepare. and in the other side of ocean, !!!!!!
and also accepts from, how you said it? Totalitarist Dictator of Russia medical supplies,

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/01/russia-sends-medical-supplies-coronavirus-159009

the political ally of Trump and USA, The total... (tongue bind) dictator and his friend.

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AND I WONDER, WHY PUTIN DID NOT SEND HELP TO ITALY? WHY DID NOT SEND HELP TO SPAIN? (the most beaten)
BUT SEND TO USA !!!!
(next common move?)


PS
some of us have 'heart' and we are always ... at economics.
some of us have honor, and we try not to give our word of honor easy,
but when we give it is a 'law'
some of us have money,we accuse others, we make embargo, we make whatever 'noise', financial sanctions etc etc.
but when 'wheel turns' as a 'wet cat' they turn down face. and pay the fine, double,
Both is capitalism.
Remember China was build after 'Chicago model' that allow capitals to move abroad, after Vietnam war.
 
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:grin: The corona crisis hit in the Netherlands right now. A kind of neo Dutch: a mix of Maroc, Surinam and Dutch style rap/slang......

It says keep 1,5 meter away.....

 
statistics upon yesterday data
according confirmed rate

Spain has broken all the records, of what we call big Europe's countriesrecovery rate
spread of virus
mortality 2nd


COUNTRYPopulation /1000Confirmed infecteddeaths upon confirmedrecoverConfirmed infected /1000 peopledeaths /confirmed infectedRecover rate















1San Marino3324530217,42420,12240,6364
Europe with Spain's Statistics (No Russia-No Turkey)
2Andora7642812105,63160,02800,1316
3Luxenbourg614248730804,05050,01210,1303


4Iceland 364131942843,62360,00300,7802
InfectedDeaths
5Feroe isls521790913,44230,00001,7500
1447497,6655738,84
6Spain 4673311206510348267432,39800,09230,5723


7Swiss85701882753640132,19680,02850,4683
Europe with Italy's Statistics (No Russia-No Turkey)
8Liechtenstein3975001,92310,00000,0000
9Italy 6031811524213915182781,91060,12070,3030


10Belgium 1151615348101124951,33280,06590,2167
InfectedDeaths
11Austria 89031119915817491,25790,01410,1965
1153281,6772885,97
12Deutch 83149847941107224401,01980,01310,2699


13EU44950745551934417867621,01340,07560,1930


14Norway 5368521850320,97210,00960,0060


15France 67022591055387124280,88190,09110,1854


16Porugal 102779034209680,87910,02310,0066
USA with Spain's statistics
17Netherlands 174251469713392500,84340,09110,0143
18USA328240245573605892280,74820,02470,0281


19Esthonia 132885811450,64610,01280,0339
InfectedDeaths
20Ireland 657338499850,58560,02550,0008
787114,3630309,44
21Denmark 5823338612310890,58150,03630,1870


22sweden 1030355683081030,54040,05530,0100
USA with Italy's statistics
23UK675473371829211350,49920,08660,0020
24Slovenia210089717700,42710,01900,0333


25Malta 494196020,39680,00000,0040
InfectedDeaths
26Czech 10650386946710,36330,01190,0067
627126,8039633,64
27Cyprus118935610280,29940,02810,0235


28Finland 55211615193000,29250,01180,0543


29Lettonia 19204930310,25680,00000,0161


30Montenegro631160200,25360,01250,0000


31Lithuania 2794696970,24910,01290,0025
32Croatia 407610117180,24800,00690,0044
33Turkey 82004181353564150,22110,01960,0051
34Moldova26825056230,18830,01190,0086
China with Spain's statistics
35Severna Mac 207738411170,18490,02860,0082
36Serbia 696411713100,16820,02650,0000


37Bosnia 351154316270,15470,02950,0077
InfectedDeaths
38Greece 10768154453610,14340,03430,0057
3423477,48131827,97
39Romania 1940227381162670,14110,04240,0138
40Albania 287727716760,09630,05780,0264
China with Italy's statistics
41Slovakia 5450426150,07820,00230,0009
42Poland38386294657560,07670,01930,0015


43Kossovo18101261100,06960,00790,0055
InfectedDeaths
44Bulgaria 700047712300,06810,02520,0043
2727627,09172382,65
45Hungary977362326430,06370,04170,0044
46mainland China1427648824643326767410,05780,04030,0538
47Belarus 94923044530,03200,01320,0056
48Russia 1467454149342810,02830,00820,0019
49Ukraine 4203194223190,02240,02440,0005
 
order appearance according mortality



COUNTRYPopulation /1000Confirmed infecteddeaths upon confirmedrecoverConfirmed infected /1000 peopledeaths /confirmed infectedRecover rate








1San Marino3324530217,42420,12240,6364
2Italy 6031811524213915182781,91060,12070,3030
3Spain 4673311206510348267432,39800,09230,5723
4France 67022591055387124280,88190,09110,1854
5Netherlands 174251469713392500,84340,09110,0143
6UK675473371829211350,49920,08660,0020
7EU44950745551934417867621,01340,07560,1930
8Belgium 1151615348101124951,33280,06590,2167
9Albania 287727716760,09630,05780,0264
10sweden 1030355683081030,54040,05530,0100
11Romania 1940227381162670,14110,04240,0138
12Hungary977362326430,06370,04170,0044
13mainland China1427648824643326767410,05780,04030,0538
14Denmark 5823338612310890,58150,03630,1870
15Greece 10768154453610,14340,03430,0057
16Bosnia 351154316270,15470,02950,0077
17Severna Mac 207738411170,18490,02860,0082
18Swiss85701882753640132,19680,02850,4683
19Cyprus118935610280,29940,02810,0235
20Andora7642812105,63160,02800,1316
21Serbia 696411713100,16820,02650,0000
22Ireland 657338499850,58560,02550,0008
23Bulgaria 700047712300,06810,02520,0043
24USA328240245573605892280,74820,02470,0281
25Ukraine 4203194223190,02240,02440,0005
26Porugal 102779034209680,87910,02310,0066
27Turkey 82004181353564150,22110,01960,0051
28Poland38386294657560,07670,01930,0015
29Slovenia210089717700,42710,01900,0333
30Austria 89031119915817491,25790,01410,1965
31Belarus 94923044530,03200,01320,0056
32Deutch 83149847941107224401,01980,01310,2699
33Lithuania 2794696970,24910,01290,0025
34Esthonia 132885811450,64610,01280,0339
35Montenegro631160200,25360,01250,0000
36Luxenbourg614248730804,05050,01210,1303
37Czech 10650386946710,36330,01190,0067
38Moldova26825056230,18830,01190,0086
39Finland 55211615193000,29250,01180,0543
40Norway 5368521850320,97210,00960,0060
41Russia 1467454149342810,02830,00820,0019
42Kossovo18101261100,06960,00790,0055
43Croatia 407610117180,24800,00690,0044
44Iceland 364131942843,62360,00300,7802
45Slovakia 5450426150,07820,00230,0009
46Feroe isls521790913,44230,00001,7500
47Liechtenstein3975001,92310,00000,0000
48Malta 494196020,39680,00000,0040
49Lettonia 19204930310,25680,00000,0161
 
CONFIRMED CASES IN SPAIN AT 12:00 PM


Below we share the total number of cases registered in Spain and their distribution by Autonomous Communities since the first occurred, that of a German patient in La Gomera (Canary Islands):


03/04/2020 12:16

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- Madrid: 34.188 (4.483 fallecidos)
- Cataluña: 23.460 (2.335 fallecidos)
- Castilla-La Mancha: 8.523 (916 fallecidos)
- Castilla y León: 7.875 (723 fallecidos)
- País Vasco: 7.827 (444 fallecidos)
- Andalucía: 7.374 (376 fallecidos)
- Comunidad Valenciana: 6.624 (511 fallecidos)
- Galicia: 5.219 (138 fallecidos)
- Navarra: 2.836 (151 fallecidos)
- Aragón: 2.889 (224 fallecidos)
- La Rioja: 2.224 (109 fallecidos)
- Extremadura: 1.893 (200 fallecidos)
- Canarias: 1.490 (73 fallecidos)
- Asturias: 1.433 (70 fallecidos)
- Cantabria: 1.321 (64 fallecidos)
- Baleares: 1.257 (69 fallecidos)
- Murcia: 1.145 (46 fallecidos)
- Melilla: 70 (2 fallecidos)
- Ceuta: 62 (1 fallecido)
Total de casos: 117.710
Dados de alta: 30.513
Fallecidos: 10.935

https://as.com/diarioas/2020/04/03/actualidad/1585887375_775650.html
 
So much for it's under control in China...

"Reuters: COMMUNIST PARTY SECRETARY OF CHINA'S WUHAN SAYS RESIDENTS OF CITY SHOULD AVOID GOING OUT IF NOT NECESSARY".

Or Singapore...
"
JUST IN: Singapore prime minister says most workplaces, except for essential services and key economic sectors, to be closed for a month starting next Tuesday. Follow our live blog for the latest updates: https://reut.rs/31RorVL"

Maybe they're seeing things that aren't in the "official" numbers yet.
 
First testing kits, then masks, now protective gowns. From where? China.

"RTÉ News has learned that part of the consignment of Personal Protective Equipment recently distributed to Covid-19 test centres, as well as mobile ambulance units and hospitals, has been described as "unusable" by some healthcare workers | https://bit.ly/3aGJvlE"


 
Paper in "Nature"...Efficacy of face masks...

See:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2

"
Abstract

We identified seasonal human coronaviruses, influenza viruses and rhinoviruses in exhaled breath and coughs of children and adults with acute respiratory illness. Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets and coronavirus RNA in aerosols, with a trend toward reduced detection of coronavirus RNA in respiratory droplets. Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals."


And that's just a surgical mask.

Now, will the CDC get off its behind?


 
This is the third such report I've seen. It explains those videos of people in China and now Ecuador just dropping in the streets.

And the-hits-just-keep-a-coming.

"Neurologists around the world say that a small subset of patients with Covid-19 are developing serious impairments of the brain. Some don't even have more typical symptoms like fever or shortness of breath."
New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/health/coronavirus-stroke-seizures-confusion.html


 
Jeff Bezos donates 100 million to food banks in U.S.

How about he also pays all those poor Amazon employees in the warehouses a living wage so they don't have to live in trailers.

Guess he was too busy having his mid-life crisis with a family friend to give proper thought to how it could be done.

Jerk.
 
Paper in "Nature"...Efficacy of face masks...

See:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2

"
Abstract

We identified seasonal human coronaviruses, influenza viruses and rhinoviruses in exhaled breath and coughs of children and adults with acute respiratory illness. Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets and coronavirus RNA in aerosols, with a trend toward reduced detection of coronavirus RNA in respiratory droplets. Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals."


And that's just a surgical mask.

Now, will the CDC get off its behind?



Will there be enough for everybody?
 
To be fair, weren't most countries just counting the deaths in hospitals? Some countries weren't even counting a death as a death "by" coronavirus if there were comorbidities present. I think that was/is the case in Germany.

Of course, it plays hell with the statistics for those trying to do projections based on lethality.

"French nursing home deaths soar since coronavirus outbreak

They weren’t including nursing home deaths?
"


Speaking of hell, they used to describe really horrendous behavior by saying "there's a special place in hell for..." Well, that applies to those who left the elderly in those nursing homes in Spain to fend for themselves and die.
 
Will there be enough for everybody?

Now? No. Maybe they're waiting to announce the change in policy until they have companies online ready to rev up production if they haven't done it already.

However, in the interim people can make them. Not the N95 or N99s, but even the surgical masks do a good job according to the paper, and even just with cloth you could make a reasonable facsimile. They'd have to be washed and disinfected every day, I guess.

I think there are already instructions online, even on youtube.

I'm not saying the reluctance to tell people to wear them was just because they wanted to make sure there were enough for health professionals, police, etc.

From the last briefing it seems as if probably there is a debate within the CDC because some of the health care professionals are afraid that some people won't be able to grasp how not to infect themselves and others through improper use of them, and those same people are probably the ones prone to risky behavior like not staying home and keeping a safe distance, and having a mask will make them feel safer and so even more prone to risky behavior.

After a number of years observing people like that I'd say it doesn't matter. They won't be disinfecting surfaces they touch, they won't be observing the lockdown etc. etc. so it doesn't matter.


Oh, an example of just how much of a doofus De Blasio is...
The NYPD is losing officers every day because they come down with Covid 19, which is to be expected just from the job they do, never mind the druggies and homeless spitting at them, but De Blasio couldn't get them any masks. The head of the NYPD called the White House directly through some contact in order to get some. God helps those who help themselves, as they say...
 

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